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Jeremy Soule, composer of Elder Scrolls soundtrack, has been accused of rape by Nathalie Lawhead
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infinitys_7th
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It must be one of those sex differences.
Go ahead and run back to REEEE now with how triggered you are.
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Barnabot
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Previosuly on this week's drama:
Nathalie has claimed that she deserved a second chance to prove that first company she worked was wrong and she could make a thing. So she took another job by a coworker (My Boss) of hers.
Nathalie has claimed that this "My Boss" was trying to talk to her for more work and he was already owning her $7k.
Nathalie has the proof that she exchange email with "My Boss" to get a reimbursement from her unpaid work. The "My Boss" replied that he had a limit of $10k to pay her but he couldn't afford not even paying the first 2 invoices at the moment.
After some more email exchanging about the same subject Nathalie "stopped and wen back to recovering" of the crunch,
Nathalie has claimed the her boss was trying to put some work for her. Even during the company launch party she and the "My Boss" were working together.
Nathalie has claimed that her working situation with the company has been eventually degraded.
End of Episode 2.
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Nathalie has claimed that she deserved a second chance to prove that first company she worked was wrong and she could make a thing. So she took another job by a coworker (My Boss) of hers.
Nathalie has claimed that this "My Boss" was trying to talk to her for more work and he was already owning her $7k.
Nathalie has the proof that she exchange email with "My Boss" to get a reimbursement from her unpaid work. The "My Boss" replied that he had a limit of $10k to pay her but he couldn't afford not even paying the first 2 invoices at the moment.
After some more email exchanging about the same subject Nathalie "stopped and wen back to recovering" of the crunch,
Nathalie has claimed the her boss was trying to put some work for her. Even during the company launch party she and the "My Boss" were working together.
Nathalie has claimed that her working situation with the company has been eventually degraded.
End of Episode 2.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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All things aside what kinda of a fucking name is Nathalie?
Barnabot
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Dthomp
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Nathan was a nerd with no internet friends so he started over on the other side?
GnomeChimpsky
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This is probably what happened:
- Nathalie has sexual encounter with JS that she later comes to regret, for whatever reason.
- Years go by, the internet blows up with sexual assault allegations.
- Nathalie brings up the incident to her blue haired friends.
- Nathalie: "Guys, do you think maybe I was raped?!?"
- Blue haired friends: "Girl, you were SO TOTALLY raped!!!"
- Anita gets a whiff of the story and asks her to go public on august 26'th.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Nah, its the fact that is the obnoxious way to write a normal game. Kinda like Rachel/Raquel/Rachael but you should know better to name your kid Rachael.
Yep, between experiencing a rape that is potentially the most traumatic experience in my life, and being too afraid to go to the police or really to anyone because I would still lose my only source of income, career, and potentially become homeless despite the outcome, the thing *I* would immediately do in the limited few days that DNA evidence lasts, is somehow think to extract my rapist's semen and put it in a tube and a freezer so that I can preserve it for years and have it with me at all times, in case that years later when I finally got the courage to speak up, I needed it.
Also, have you heard of condoms?
FYI, just because you keep posting rage emoji text doesn't somehow obscure the very clear fact that you have no frame of reference to think about what actually happens during rapes in the workplace. Your fantasy version of it isn't it though.
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Barnabot
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Previously on this week's drama:
And now...
Nathalie has claimed that her "My Boss" 's brother went so far to write her in the game by quoting what she said in the party(company launch party?) as one of the bad guys in the game.
Nathalie has the proof that the "My Boss" has reached her by email ask for more work
Nathalie has the proof that she had exchange emails with her "My Boss" negotiating the time she would be working and she suggested her "My Boss" to recruit more people to work.
Nathalie has the proof that the "My Boss" asked her for more work around a month after the last email exchange.
Nathalie has the proof that she emailed her "My Boss" five days after the last email and seh told him that their cooperation has been terminated not before billing the final invoice. She had also CC'ed the "My Boss" 's brother in the same email.
Nathalie has the proof that her "My Boss" tried to convince her continue working for him but she replied that it was non-negotiable.
Nathalie has the proof that "My Boss" s brother replied the same email she previously sent by telling her that company would pay the money they owed her. And that "no one would give a flying shit what is in her email. Also told her to stop spreading bullshit by email.
End of Episode 3.
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And now...
Nathalie has claimed that her "My Boss" 's brother went so far to write her in the game by quoting what she said in the party(company launch party?) as one of the bad guys in the game.
Nathalie has the proof that the "My Boss" has reached her by email ask for more work
Nathalie has the proof that she had exchange emails with her "My Boss" negotiating the time she would be working and she suggested her "My Boss" to recruit more people to work.
Nathalie has the proof that the "My Boss" asked her for more work around a month after the last email exchange.
Nathalie has the proof that she emailed her "My Boss" five days after the last email and seh told him that their cooperation has been terminated not before billing the final invoice. She had also CC'ed the "My Boss" 's brother in the same email.
Nathalie has the proof that her "My Boss" tried to convince her continue working for him but she replied that it was non-negotiable.
Nathalie has the proof that "My Boss" s brother replied the same email she previously sent by telling her that company would pay the money they owed her. And that "no one would give a flying shit what is in her email. Also told her to stop spreading bullshit by email.
End of Episode 3.
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Starfield
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A pretty normal one? One of my best friends is called Nathalie
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infinitys_7th
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Semen is not the only way to get DNA or the only thing that comes out of a rape kit - hairs and other forensic evidence as well as trauma can be documented.
Ah yes, saving her rapists hair for years until she's ready to come forward is definitely a more reasonable expectation we should have of a rape victim. Also I somehow doubt this forum would buy this. "Oh they hung out as friends, of course there is hair there! My cat gets its hair everywhere!"
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Do you call her
Natha-lie?
infinitys_7th
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Uh, what are you talking about?
Edit (for your edit):
You realize that the morphology of hairs are different, right? If a male pubic hair is uncovered with the kit, that's different than body hair or head hair.
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Starfield
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Nathalie is a pretty common name in Europe/Austria/Germany. it's actually spelled out Natha-lee
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Nathalee makes more sense imo
I'm talking about the fact that getting raped at work is a totally different experience and elicits totally different actions from victims than you are imagining it is.
Being afraid to lose your job means you probably won't go to the police in the few days during which evidence can be collected. Often you might not do so for years since you might be too busy bouncing between being utterly traumatized and unable to talk about it, and worrying that you might lose your income and become homeless. It's also the case that even when victims who do go to the police and have been raped for real, the chances of actually recovering usable evidence is very small.
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Starfield
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That's how you say it. It's just written like that because it is. Other example: Sophie. In english you'd spell it out something like Sophy but in german for example you say Sophee
idk if thats a good example since its aLMOSt 1am and I should go to sleep
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Sophie is a perfectly normal name and cute name.
I do realize it but I also realize that people would still explain it away.
infinitys_7th
Member
What power did Soule have over her livelihood? It looks like she is fully independent as an artist.
People are going to explain away a male pubic hair being recovered from a vaginal swab? Right.
recursive
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Is your entire position based on speculation and pontificating?
Kataploom
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The problem is that you are assuming that people should be rational... Unfortunately, the fact that we can be rational in these cases doesn't make other people be, as a proof you have people here "factually" calling it a lie, while other people in the other forum calling it absolutely true.
In a more ideal world, the victim of rape would go to the legal authorities, fill a demand, present proof or whatever if possible and if they don't do something, then go to social media and do a public accusation and people shouldn't jump to conclusions until take in consideration all the variables (like the accuser, because, for example, the other person accusing today has way too low credibility even if it result being true).
But as you said, this is not the case for several factors that we can't simply understand by thinking it's ideal because we are not them and/or haven't lived the same situation.
It sucks because it's this complex fue to this cognitive bias that's being exploted by not intelligent enough people with bad intentions, making things harder for real victims to get credibility.
There's no ideal conclusion to this, people with act emotional anyway...
darkangel-212559
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His career is already under fire from cunts who believe in finding a person guilty without trial.
Fuck off with this shit.
Fuck off with this shit.
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Barnabot
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Previously on this week's drama:
And Now...
Season Finale.
Nathalie has claimed that company's accountant has answered and accused her of stealing the work's source code she did for the company.
Nathalie has the proof of the email exchange between the company's accountant and her while the "My Boss" has been CC'd in every email.
Nathalie has the claimed that she only received $5k and never got a reply from her last email.
Nathalie has the claimed that she had a melt down while listening to a classical music station.
Then after some more Nathalie melt down I have finally found the word rape in the following sentence.
The veredict:
I freaking wasted my time trying to figure out whether rape was true or not.
At least I tried....
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Season Finale.
Nathalie has claimed that company's accountant has answered and accused her of stealing the work's source code she did for the company.
Nathalie has the proof of the email exchange between the company's accountant and her while the "My Boss" has been CC'd in every email.
- Nathalie asked for the missing payments while accountant told her that she needs to send to the company all the latest versioned files she had from the project she worked.
- The accountant said that the company still owed her $7,320 and the accountant that the company was very clear six month ago since her termination that she should return all the files, assets, of the same project she had in her possession
- And in another email the same accountant said that in order to avoid legal action the company poposed to pay her only $5k of what they owed her ecause they claimed that she was 'intentionally withholding' assets.
Nathalie has the claimed that she only received $5k and never got a reply from her last email.
Nathalie has the claimed that she had a melt down while listening to a classical music station.
Then after some more Nathalie melt down I have finally found the word rape in the following sentence.
The veredict:
I freaking wasted my time trying to figure out whether rape was true or not.
At least I tried....
Iorv3th
Member
Surely she knows who might have evidence or not. She could go to them personally. Instead you think smearing a person on twitter is appropriate just in case?
Northeastmonk
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Sounds like a very ugly situation. On one end of the spectrum Jeremy could sue for defamation of character. All the negative press and loss of work. He probably won’t get the reimbursement he wants, but still.
Then you have the latter. Claims that need evidence. She isn’t going to the cops, she’s going online for support. Which proves what? My mom was sexually harassed by a pastor. Years went by and the dude killed himself. They had a book about him. Is that what she wants? You want the guy to lie in his own guilt and possibly kill himself some time down the road? Is that justice? A bunch of social media people talking shit until his conscience somehow tells him he’s not wanted anymore?
Then you have the latter. Claims that need evidence. She isn’t going to the cops, she’s going online for support. Which proves what? My mom was sexually harassed by a pastor. Years went by and the dude killed himself. They had a book about him. Is that what she wants? You want the guy to lie in his own guilt and possibly kill himself some time down the road? Is that justice? A bunch of social media people talking shit until his conscience somehow tells him he’s not wanted anymore?
wordslaughter
Banned
This is character assassination and he should sue.
No serious victim comes out on Twitter. You go to the police in a timely fashion.
No serious victim comes out on Twitter. You go to the police in a timely fashion.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
The name makes it too obvious you're a troll. Should have gone with something a bit more subtle, but keep fighting the good fight.
Previously on this week's drama:
And Now...
Season Finale.
Nathalie has claimed that company's accountant has answered and accused her of stealing the work's source code she did for the company.
Nathalie has the proof of the email exchange between the company's accountant and her while the "My Boss" has been CC'd in every email.
Nathalie has the proof that she sent a last email to ask for the remaining $2,320 the company owed to her .
- Nathalie asked for the missing payments while accountant told her that she needs to send to the company all the latest versioned files she had from the project she worked.
- The accountant said that the company still owed her $7,320 and the accountant that the company was very clear six month ago since her termination that she should return all the files, assets, of the same project she had in her possession
- And in another email the same accountant said that in order to avoid legal action the company poposed to pay her only $5k of what they owed her ecause they claimed that she was 'intentionally withholding' assets.
Nathalie has the claimed that she only received $5k and never got a reply from her last email.
Nathalie has the claimed that she had a melt down while listening to a classical music station.
Then after some more Nathalie melt down I have finally found the word rape in the following sentence.
The veredict:
I freaking wasted my time trying to figure out whether rape was true or not.
At least I tried....
So... conclusion is she (is it a she? has it identified itself as female?) is blackmailing the company for the remaining $2,320. and since she hasnt heard from them she has decided to call rape?
Is that pretty much the gist of it? There seems to be more whining from it about the lack of payment due to her poor work (oh, where have we heard that one recently before - oh thats right the tranny in Japan who called censorship because they company didnt like their work) than a sexual assault
Also - who the fuck are BOTH of these people and why the fuck should anyone care? I play the damn games, I don't get so deeply involved in the fake celebrity behind them. Am I the odd one out? (probably) And why the fuck would you put all of this on social media? Is scoring temporary sympathy from allies really worth all the hassles?
I don't think people will act in a rational way. It's obvious that they won't
But I refuse to put "you must have evidence to convict someone before you can tell your story in a public forum" type of requirements for talking about your experiences.Right now it's just a fact that the vast majority of accusations are real, and the vast majority of accusations that are real also cannot be proven. Given this, to me it seems obvious that people should be able to talk about their experiences, as one powerful way to prove their claims is if their stories enable other victims of said perpetrators to come forward.
Given the rarity with which people reveal these events in professional settings, you can't seriously believe that she would know about other instances, can you? It's not like you can google it or look it up in his LinkedIn profile. People keep this stuff secret for YEARS.
Iorv3th
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you posted
Claiming other people might have evidence of it happening to her or know about it happening to her and can corroborate.
Now you are changing it to knowing about it happening to other people?
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
His career is already under fire from cunts who believe in finding a person guilty without trial.
Fuck off with this shit.
Yeah, when your "values" are to convict without evidence, defence or even right to reply on the part of the accused, I'd say they don't count for much.
What the fuck is going on? There's no moral high-ground with a lynch-mob mentality!
Oh Right I forgot you made up this fiction in your head that she is apparently unable to get any other job.
I have to laugh at you acting up if she was somehow his slave. You're making ridiculous assumptions to defend her incredibly stupid accusations. Talk about fantasies lol
So just a recap you defend public witch hunting based off of no evidence on Twitter, and you're willing to make up any story based off of literally nothing to justify those which hunts.
Let me guess?
you're "fair to both sides"?
And have you never had sex? Condom or not, sex leaves DNA traces. She could have gone to police immediately after and open a police report.
I know you don't believe that police officers take rape cases seriously, becuase you are a fool, but that would have been what a smart person did.
A liar runs to Twitter and riles up idiots like you who will believe anything
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" I believe any accusation must be treated as true. Who needs evidence if my politicael beliefs are validated.I don't think people will act in a rational way. It's obvious that they won't
Right now it's just a fact that the vast majority of accusations are real, and the vast majority of accusations that are real also cannot be proven. Given this, to me it seems obvious that people should be able to talk about their experiences, as one powerful way to prove their claims is if their stories enable other victims of said perpetrators to come forward.
collateral damage? Never heard of it"
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DeepEnigma
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Salem Witch Trials... in virtual “reality”.
nush
Member
I'd delete my Twitter if I was getting message bombed by SJW's who would also be going through old tweets to find "Evidence".
Can't it be both? When a victim calls out a rapist, other victims end up being encouraged to come forward, and some of them might have evidence. It might also be the case that someone at work who doesn't know the person was raped can, after the fact, find evidence. For example if I claim I was raped, a coworker might corroborate it by saying "Oh I remember that week, he came in with a black eye and wouldn't talk to anyone. Now it makes sense!" This kind of corroborating evidence can be very powerful.
Anyway, you're now stuck arguing that someone telling their story DOESN'T somehow increase their chances of finding evidence and getting justice. That's not a good place to be in a discussion IMO, but if that's where you are, I'm happy to leave it at that since it's obviously false.
"Guys, maybe Jeremy Soule is running a rape train? We have no proof of this, but we should drag him through the mud anyway. I heard he likes beer so it must true.
Believe women. Assume all men are serial rapists"
Oh Right I forgot you made up this fiction in your head that she is apparently unable to get any other job.
I have to laugh at you acting up if she was somehow his slave. You're making ridiculous assumptions to defend her incredibly stupid accusations. Talk about fantasies lol
So just a recap you defend public witch hunting based off of no evidence on Twitter, and you're willing to make up any story based off of literally nothing to justify those which hunts.
Let me guess?
you're "fair to both sides"?
And have you never had sex? Condom or not, sex leaves DNA traces. She could have gone to police immediately after and open a police report.
I know you don't believe that police officers take rape cases seriously, becuase you are a fool, but that would have been what a smart person did.
A liar runs to Twitter and riles up idiots like you who will believe anything
bark bark
That's a good start, but as a next step maybe you can write down all the made-up positions you enjoy arguing against, and then build a Rhysser doll and pre-record them so you can argue with it. It might provide a more visceral experience than doing it in a forum post.
Dirk Benedict
Member
Jeremy Soule! *screams into the night sky*
Fuck it.
I want the law to decide, not a twitter mob without any facts.
Fuck it.
I want the law to decide, not a twitter mob without any facts.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
What a boofer. I bet he drinks beer, too.
Racerprose
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But I'm sure all these people are lying too, right, everyone?
But I'm sure all these people are lying too, right, everyone?
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