TeamGhobad
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50% longer? or what? first game wasn't open world is this open world?
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Naughty Dog Says The Last of Us Part II Is About 50% Bigger Than the Original Game
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Oddvintagechap
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I prefer a focus on single player on all my games. They can release a multiplayer free to play mode for Playstation Plus users after. That why i can play with my friends that dont buy the game.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Ambitious, my ass.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Weirdo gamers ITT.
My hot take: Sony rushed Naughty Dog to make this game. I've never seen such a rushed AAA game this generation quite like this. Don't be fooled by the two discs, this won't be like Red Dead Redemption 2, a game that was definitely not rushed. Kind if disappointed that Sony didn't give ND more time to make the game.
My hot take: Sony rushed Naughty Dog to make this game. I've never seen such a rushed AAA game this generation quite like this. Don't be fooled by the two discs, this won't be like Red Dead Redemption 2, a game that was definitely not rushed. Kind if disappointed that Sony didn't give ND more time to make the game.
Hostile_18
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I think the question is will they charge for the multiplayer component to people who purchase the game?
It seems like it was at one point to be included... else why wouldn't they have told everyone right out of the gate (to set expectations correctly).
I personally don't mind it coming out later, just if there expecting everyone to pay twice...
It seems like it was at one point to be included... else why wouldn't they have told everyone right out of the gate (to set expectations correctly).
I personally don't mind it coming out later, just if there expecting everyone to pay twice...
Explosive Zombie
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These threads get trolled so hard it's astonishing. Does it really upset people this much that TLOU is a beloved franchise?
PharaoTutAnchAmun
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No, it comes later, cant you read?
Swipeyowifelike
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You're asking for way to much.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
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And how do you come to this conclusion? Come with facts ore keep to your opinion for your self
Birdo
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Just what TLOU needed more of.....
FranXico
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A certain group of people who suffered through a generation of "being on the losing team" is on the offensive now. With the next gen coming soon, they're ravenous and thirsty for revenge. They're keyboard warriors with a mission.
LostDonkey
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The longest of us
Birdo
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It's okay to not like a thing.
Think of it this way. Take a game that you despise. Now imagine that everyone of fucking planet earth wouldn't shut the fuck up about it for ten seconds.
That's why
FranXico
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The matching example would be:It's okay to not like a thing.
Think of it this way. Take a game that you despise. Now imagine that everyone of fucking planet earth wouldn't shut the fuck up about it for ten seconds.
That's why
Take a game that you despise. Now imagine that you wouldn't shut the fuck up about how much you hate it for ten seconds.
Birdo
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The hate is a reaction to the obsession.
Cause and effect. Remove one and the other wouldn't exist.
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FranXico
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It's ok to hate too. Most of us just know our place when we do.
There's plenty of (IMO) overrated franchises out there that I dislike, one of them being Halo, for example.
Do I go to every Halo thread trolling all the time, though? Nope. I just stay away from them and let other people enjoy talking about it.
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Birdo
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I'm sure if there were multiple new Halo threads created every day, you'd say something in one of them at some point
FranXico
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Maybe one or two posts (maybe tech threads) about how it's just not for me and I don't like it. I mean, what point is there to discuss something I don't really care about?I'm sure if there were multiple new Halo threads created every day, you'd say something in one of them at some point
Not trolling every single thread though.
Birdo
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I dunno. I actually like the debates. If every thread was just people praising a game, it would be pretty boring here.
I like the engagement, good or bad.
(I have nobody to talk to, and debating on forums is my only human interaction )
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Jon Neu
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I like the engagement, good or bad.(I have nobody to talk to, and debating on forums is my only human interaction
That's bad. You should put yourself out of your comfort zone, be outside with other people and try to talk to them, even if you feel nervous or unworthy. Eventually some people will start to like you.
I love you Birdo. You're my friend.
FranXico
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Fans can come up with legitimate (and crucial!) criticism, and often do. I doubt any game only ever receives praise.
You have a good point about engagement though, it should be both good and bad. As long as people stay civil, it's all good.
And try engaging people out there more, you'll enjoy it a lot.
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mitch1971
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50% more trolling to be exact.
Explosive Zombie
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Yeah, I don't get it. I've been a supporter of generational losers in the past (I preferred BOTH my XBOX and my Gamecube to my PS2 which mostly gathered dust, I owned an N64 but not a PSX and when playing PSX at a friend's house I'd always think it was inferior, last gen I was a 360 man for half the gen but the exclusives on PS3 made me conflicted, multi-plats still were best on 360, etc.) and it never made me get sand in my vagina that people weren't on my side. What irks me is when people are clearly such big fanboys of CORPORATIONS that they defend anything they do and attack anything the rival does.
It's okay to not like a thing.
Think of it this way. Take a game that you despise. Now imagine that everyone of fucking planet earth wouldn't shut the fuck up about it for ten seconds.
That's why
I mean, you're saying like that doesn't happen. It does, I just have a certain level of self control about what I interact with.
It's a forum with individual threads, you can just NOT enter a thread. When you say something back like "but there's so many on the front page" the question becomes if you realize you bumping that thread contributes to that fact?
A rational way to do things.
I'm sure if there were multiple new Halo threads created every day, you'd say something in one of them at some point
Halo Infinite is guaranteed to create multiple threads a day when it approaches, Gears 5 just did create multiple threads a day. This is just the way it is with big games.
I dunno. I actually like the debates. If every thread was just people praising a game, it would be pretty boring here.
I like the engagement, good or bad.(I have nobody to talk to, and debating on forums is my only human interaction
I like debates, too, but debates and drive-by shitposting/trolling are two different things. A lot of the negative comments these threads receive aren't made to engender discussion. Also, though many will say they do this while at work (hence having to mark things NSFW) many others are getting the most human interaction they get as well. The thing is you have to wonder why the most human interaction some people get involves saying stuff like "what a gay game, lol, gays like it only". Maybe this is their only human interaction because they're just as toxic in reality and no one wants to talk to them? Not saying this is you, you seem fine.
thelastword
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Well he certainly pretends like he does not understand...…….If you have that axe to grind, why not do it in another thread.....If you have issue with MP not being there day 1, go thrash that out in another thread and take ND's head off there....Yet, that's not even necessary, because I still showed him where Straley said that the team is working on MP and he's seen it's ambition...….
So why does he also ignore Bruce Straley on Twitter????
"I know the team very well & trust them thoroughly! I also know what they’re working on & I can attest that SP & MP are both EXTREMELY ambitious. I can only joke because I’m friends w these people & I have absolute faith in what they’re doing."
"I guarantee you‘re gonna be stoked to get your hands on both modes. But ya gotta let them do their thing. Have faith. You’re in good hands!"
"Lastly, I really appreciate the passion MP fans have for the mode. We worked super hard to make it something special & as much as my tweet may have stung, I wanna say thanks for digging the game so much! I too had the most epic MP matches playing
"Have patience - your time will come!"
If you really loved LOU MP, you should be stoked that an MP game is coming up with the ambition placed into this SP, I know I would.....Yet ethomaz just goes on a tangent of there will be no MP. It will be a new game, if they market it as a new game, it's still LOU MP, because it will be based on LOU 2's characters setting etc....Is GTAV5-O and RDR2-O, not MP of their respective games, because they came separate and later? If Ethomaz is not trolling and loves MP, great. He should be reveling in the news that a better MP is coming.....
Its because LOU 2 is Sony's biggest weapon...Sony has taken out their competition with handguns, shotguns, rifles/sniper weapons, hand grenades and explosives......LOU 2 is the BFG you pick up in the last level to lay waste to your enemies...…..(Doom Reference). These guys see that BFG and they know the amount of damage it does...….
The games which are 98-99 Meta currently, do they all have MP?
The last 6 years have been tough for some......Some want LOU2 to do badly, they're just waiting on anything to latch on, anything really......Watch Days Gone-Generic-Gate-I hate Deacon.com, Spiderman-Puddle-Gate etc...….Tbf, some of these guys don't hate LOU2, they're just disappointed that their console of choice are not bringing these games instead (or else they would be here praising LOU and ND's focus on SP).....Some of them will buy it day 1, so they can play it and express their disappointment in the campaign, of what ND did wrong and what they themselves could have done better.....Some are just waiting for one bad Meta Review or if this reviews worse than LOU 1, It's all well planned really and the execution of these plans rarely fail, except that LOU 2 is going to review well and sell a tonne, moving many PS4's with it....
HaveButOneLife
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Still less content. How extensive were the customization and progressive systems? Not very.
But that's not me saying that SP wasn't content rich or anything because I went back to the game recently and forgot that there was a currency that could upgrade your stats and you could even craft to make your weapons stronger, but MP was still almost half of the game.
The more content for our $60, the better. Just saying.
Psykodad
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What are you talking about?
Instead of 50% SP and 50% MP, they now chose to go 100% SP and 100% MP. Hence, only SP for TLOU2 and MP coming at a later date.
How hard is it to grasp that concept?
Punished Miku
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I'd expect 22 at most. With a lot of cinematics.
ethomaz
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It won't come late... The Last of Us Part II won't have MP.
Can't you read?And how do you come to this conclusion? Come with facts ore keep to your opinion for your self
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thelastword
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And it appears that's what you're going to get eventually...…A larger, deeper experience in the SP, with more characters, more animations, more story pieces...…The fact that they mention that the same scenario plays differently dependent on you, with different animations reactions etc. is good news...….So you have a more fleshed out SP in February and later on you're going to have a more fleshed out MP for those who loved that part immensely, which many people loved tbh, so it's a win win
Also for the people saying that LOU2 is just bigger for being bigger's sake, I disagree.......I remember telling folk in another thread that it seems that we will play as many characters, Ellie, Joel, that tough muscular girl and others......It's a world where there are many stories to tell, and many persons may be in various stages of difficulty...Of course it would seem that all the characters you may play as, their storyline will converge.....Its a pretty huge undertaking to meld all this together I'd imagine and by the looks of it, it appears Naughty's ambition has been realized...…..The amount of work that goes into such a project to keep the graphics at a consistent level, the animations, the gameplays systems and ATD is really a huge task.....
Gen.Grievous
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A bigger hallway gives you more room for activities though.
ethomaz
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Again... MP is not part of The Last of Us 2... which won't come late.
They will release a new game in the future not part of The Last of Us 2 that could be based in anything... that game will use the ideias axed from The Last of Us 2 MP.
What ND promised last year won't come anymore.
Now how people try to spin MP was not part of content in the first game is out of my mind.
This new game is smaller than the first one... it lacks a whole mode.
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HoldSteady
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Bring it on. I’m almost finished with my second play through (Ellie just saw the giraffes) and am still convinced it’s the greatest story in gaming. It resonates with me on such an emotional level usually reserved for cinema. I can’t imagine what the second will hold in terms of story and gameplay. Can’t wait!
thelastword
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Well, it's a story based game with deep gameplay systems...….So they said more of everything at a much higher quality.....So I guess cinemas would get the uplift just the same.....
Wow, this is hilarious......You have so much info don't you, you are even privy to the (aXe) files........from the dead LOU 2 MP...……
alabtrosMyster
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I know, people don't read too much before taking starting a thread because they want that niche feature in their game.
It's just delayed, TLoU is remembered mostly for its SP campaign, I wouldn't have seen why people cared for it more than God of War's MP content... but it's just delayed, it's almost as if people did not care to read about what they are upset about, so I did not care to point in my first response.
a 50% bigger and so many improvements to the core game is what's really important.
ethomaz
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ethomaz
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It was not delayed... why people keep spreading false info.
The MP for The Last of Us Part II was cut, axed, canceled... MP won't be part of the game anymore... at launch or late.
ND said that the ideias and vision of TLOU2's MP will be used to create a new game that wont be part of TLOU2... that new game they will share more info in the future.
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HaveButOneLife
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Sure, but we should be getting everything on day one, we should at least expect that.
alabtrosMyster
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Read the quoted message below, I assume it could be released as a free to play MP game, some other paid game, etc. either way, it will take form, it's just very likely that you won't be able to choose "Multi player" in the TLoU II main menu.
Either way, I'd rather not pay for the development of a multi player mode in my single player games, it just polutes the projects with side
No sure if serious?
yup, I quoted you so he can read your post.
Yes, everything to everybody all the time! I vote for this! Infinite ressources!
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ethomaz
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The fact TLOU2's MP won't come late already tells you how much he knows about the subject.
Psykodad
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Yes, that's what I said.
They explained why and it makes sense.
Nobody has said such a thing. Where did you come up with that?
Flawed logic.
They used those resources and invested it in the singleplayer.
Seriously, do you even read back what you say in here?
This is getting laughable.
You get everything they wanted to include in TLOU2, Mr Entitlement.
thelastword
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You've been saying nothing is coming and also been saying it's a completely new game, that right there is already a contradiction, perhaps to cover both bases later when ND announces LOU2 MP officially with details.....No sure if serious?
They started working on Factions, but was evolving so much and their ambition for it got so big, they decided that they would not be able to finish it by the 21st and that shoehorning the LOU1 MP was not enough and did not meet their standards for MP in the latest version of the game.......So they said, we'll focus all our resources on SP for now and flesh out the MP to the standard we want it later on........
So, it's simple........MP was cut out of the February 21st LOU2 game, MP will not come in that package......LOU 2 for now is standalone, but they are working on that ambitious LOU2 MP for a later date, they have not and won't furnish details till everything comes together......They don't want to lead anybody to a wrong conclusion this early, so closer to the launch of this MP, they will give details on the game/mode and their ambitions for it.....