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Modern Warfare Early Copies Already Out Into the Wild, Patch Required to Get Past Main Title Screen

Physical "ownership" amirite?

Seriously though, the CoD customers tend to discard last year's model. Sometimes the die-hards find a version they really love and wait 2 years to upgrade to the yearly entry lol
 

The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Then the game is completely dysfunctional when the online service shuts down, unless you already downloaded the patch before. I think this is completely unacceptable. Just start the online game service the day the game launches, then no one has an advantage in the online mode, but who is getting hurt by someone playing the singleplayer early? This is so petty...

PSN and Xbox Live will probably never go down, so you are always able to get the patch.

Even the first Call of Duty's on Xbox 360 still have online support, so I doubt it will matter much for Modern Warfare 2019. You should be fine playing it at least the next 30 years no problem.

Alternative get it on PC,
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
PSN and Xbox Live will probably never go down, so you are always able to get the patch.
Xbox Live / PSN need not go down for access from old consoles to be denied. Xbox Live still exists, but good luck connecting with an original Xbox. Also, should either company ever decide to pull out of the console business, watch the online service be shut down immediately.
Alternative get it on PC,
Yeah, PC is a great choice if you care about your rights - what with Steam activation and intrusive DRM measures...
 
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Woo-Fu

Banned
When you buy physical what you're buying is a media kit and an LTU. That LTU probably has some verbiage about when it takes effect. Some retail outlet breaking street date doesn't change the license.

I suppose threads where people bump their head into how software licensing is intended to work will be more frequent now that digital distribution and always-online are commonplace.
 
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Pallas

Member
Can’t really fault this too much, I don’t think they want anyone to spoil the campaign(which would happen) before the game even releases. They probably got tired of the campaign being leaked since it seems every year some people luck out and get early copies of the yearly CoD.

Say what you will about your rights but I’m pretty sure they(developers,publishers) intended that the game be playable on its release date, not before. You’ll be able to play it like everyone else on the release date.
 

Birdo

Banned
I'm one of those sad people that read console TOS.

Everything is temporary and you own nothing. We just have to accept it.

The scariest one is in Sony's, where it tells you that your account will probably be nuked if you don't use it for over 24 months......
 
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Miles708

Member
Yes. Not because you paid whatever money means you get to play it before the official release date :)

Could you help me understand here?
Are we talking about people who purchased the game in stores (retail or online)? This means that the game will never be playable without a patch, even after the official release date, is this right?
Your line of thinking would be acceptable if the content of discs sold after the official date would already have the patch on them.

As a "normal" customer, if I find the I want game at the shop, I buy it. I don't stop and think "no, this is not the official date the marketing team set for me". If anything, stocking and selling it's the store's problem, not mine. Why am I the one being punished? After, and this is the best part, I paid for it in full?

(disclaimer: i don't have the game. It's just to discuss.)
 
R.I.P physical media. In my opinion this isn't acceptable at all.


So..what happens if I buy a used launch copy of the game a year from now and take it back to my non-internet having house and try to play it? I think know the answer but I need someone to tell it to me.
 
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makaveli60

Member
They are lucky that I have this game ordered with another one together so I won't cancel it because it would be too much of a hassle but next time I will buy their game used. Fuck this bullshit. Though I should have known better, they already did this with WWII...
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I'm one of those sad people that read console TOS.

Everything is temporary and you own nothing. We just have to accept it.

The scariest one is in Sony's, where it tells you that your account will probably be nuked if you don't use it for over 24 months......
They cannot do anything about me playing my consoles always offline.
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
It makes sense if you consider how often Street Dates get broken. GameStop employees breaking street date, mom and pop stores, and people of the press not giving a shit about their review copy. I have it digitally pre-ordered and that timer doesn't mean everyone has to wait. They wait because that's the official release date by the developer on that particular service.
 

MiguelItUp

Member
Is this faux rage? I legit don't understand what people are upset about. Retailers have been breaking street dates for a number of years, this seems like a good way to combat that. It's why release dates exist.

All in all it makes the most sense with COD, especially with how popular the online component is.

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't there another title (or a few) people raged about because they didn't turn servers on until the actual release date? Lol. Is this entitlement?
 

makaveli60

Member
Is this faux rage? I legit don't understand what people are upset about. Retailers have been breaking street dates for a number of years, this seems like a good way to combat that. It's why release dates exist.

All in all it makes the most sense with COD, especially with how popular the online component is.

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't there another title (or a few) people raged about because they didn't turn servers on until the actual release date? Lol. Is this entitlement?
What is it that you and some others can't understand about the problem with this? I and a lot of other people still buy physical games to be able to preserve it and play it anytime we want without depending on online availability.
 
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ultrazilla

Member
We got rid of micro-transactions for the life of the game!

Surprise motherfuckers! You have to pay us twice! Once to buy the game and once to
activate it!

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MiguelItUp

Member
What is it that you and some others can't understand about the problem with this? I and a lot of other people still buy physical games to be able to preserve it and play it anytime we want without depending on online availability.
It being a "problem" alone is subjective, at least in this particular instance.

Yes, you should be allowed to play a physical copy of a game when you purchase it. But this all sounds like a protective measure against breaking street date, and nothing else. Which to me, makes sense. Especially for COD, a series where the majority don't touch the campaign and go straight to online multiplayer.

They also haven't even said the size of the patch, its legit probably nothing more than a few MB's to raise the gate on release day. If it was the entire game, then I would be tooting a different horn, haha.

I actually understood the outrage with Overwatch on Switch because you just have to download the entire game, which is always stupid IMO.
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
Is this faux rage? I legit don't understand what people are upset about. Retailers have been breaking street dates for a number of years, this seems like a good way to combat that. It's why release dates exist.

All in all it makes the most sense with COD, especially with how popular the online component is.

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't there another title (or a few) people raged about because they didn't turn servers on until the actual release date? Lol. Is this entitlement?

Some of us still buy and collect physical games. If the game needs a day one patch to even run then the disc is useless by itself. I don’t mind online servers not being up until release day. It’s garbage to block the single player behind an update though.
 

Mista

Banned
Could you help me understand here?
Are we talking about people who purchased the game in stores (retail or online)? This means that the game will never be playable without a patch, even after the official release date, is this right?
Your line of thinking would be acceptable if the content of discs sold after the official date would already have the patch on them.

As a "normal" customer, if I find the I want game at the shop, I buy it. I don't stop and think "no, this is not the official date the marketing team set for me". If anything, stocking and selling it's the store's problem, not mine. Why am I the one being punished? After, and this is the best part, I paid for it in full?

(disclaimer: i don't have the game. It's just to discuss.)
No, my point was clear. It doesn’t matter if you purchased the game retail or online, you aren’t allowed to play it before the official release date just because you bought it.

Yes we won’t think like that but the people that made the game got the right to do so. I played lots of leaked games in my life and never complained about the ones that didn’t work before the release date. Not our problem sure and at the same time they have the right to not make the game playable before the release date.
 
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Mista

Banned
They are lucky that I have this game ordered with another one together so I won't cancel it because it would be too much of a hassle but next time I will buy their game used. Fuck this bullshit. Though I should have known better, they already did this with WWII...
Oh please don’t do this you’ll hurt the game sales!
 

Gamernyc78

Banned
I'm with this. Too many try hards get copies ridiculously early and by the time you jump in mp Billy thts level 50 already is shooting you down with all the attachments and perks enabled. Everyone should have same start time to progress.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
It started with Crash and Spyro with most of the game needing to be downloaded. No such thing as slippery slopes the defenders said.

"It all could not fit on the disc" hahahaha, they said.

This is the next wave from Activision. The big pubs will get their "always online" how they see fit. Drip-feeding into the digital crack.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.

However, physical copies have got into the hands of fans and the game is apparently fully playable. Which means if you want to be spoiler free for the story campaign you better watch yourself. The same thing happened with Call Of Duty: WWII in 2017 but with that game people couldn’t get round the need for a day one patch, this time though all you have to do is disable the Internet before you start playing.

If this turns out to be true I am going to bump this thread so hard. Names will be named. Repent.
 

makaveli60

Member
Oh please don’t do this you’ll hurt the game sales!
At least your corporate masters can be proud of you.

And to be clear, because there are still people that don't understand the issue... I don't care about the multiplayer and I can fully understand that they don't want people to play that early, but the campaign should be playable anytime I want even if I am in a farm with no internet.
 
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Mista

Banned
At least your corporate masters can be proud of you.

And to be clear, because there are still people that don't understand the issue... I don't care about the multiplayer and I can fully understand that they don't want people to play that early, but the campaign should be playable anytime I want even if I am in a farm with no internet.
Corporate masters better than kids crying over everything and they keep on increasing every year. I was joking with you but it seems you get butthurt over anything so I’m taking that back

And no, just because you don’t give a shit about the multiplayer doesn’t give you the right to play the campaign before the release date. Thank you and good bye sir
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Well they obviously did it on purpose, they must know people are getting them early and there been a rise of Digital early access in middle Eastern countries and Europe weeks before release.
So I imagine the Pre-load has this too
I doubt review copies have this problem.
 

Miles708

Member
No, my point was clear. It doesn’t matter if you purchased the game retail or online, you aren’t allowed to play it before the official release date just because you bought it.

Yes we won’t think like that but the people that made the game got the right to do so. I played lots of leaked games in my life and never complained about the ones that didn’t work before the release date. Not our problem sure and at the same time they have the right to not make the game playable before the release date.

You have a point if the game is leaked (meaning: distribuited without consent with malicious intent), but if I'm not mistaken we're talking about regularly sold copies. Even if the seller has done the wrong thing by selling it before the date, this is a problem between the seller and the publisher, no?

What I mean is: is it right to punish the customer for a mistake of the retailer? The customer is in good faith here.

Sub_Level Sub_Level : oh, so it works offline?
 

Birdo

Banned



If this turns out to be true I am going to bump this thread so hard. Names will be named. Repent.

Hmm. Seems that the game is looking for the server just because it's connected to the net.

This isn't too bad then. I will retract my pitchfork for now.
 
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