Bonfires Down
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Ex Blizzard Employee Leak : First person Diablo IV, Overwatch 2 is shaping badly, RTS genre is dead and more
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I am going to go with the way he spoke, referencing how Blizzard doesn't give a single fuck about anything other than what their Shareholders feel, and that they hold US, their (now ex, in my case) consumers, and what WE think, in utter contempt.
Also, it simply reads as credible, linguistically speaking.
I am going to go with the way he spoke, referencing how Blizzard doesn't give a single fuck about anything other than what their Shareholders feel, and that they hold US, their (now ex, in my case) consumers, and what WE think, in utter contempt.
Also, it simply reads as credible, linguistically speaking.
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Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
These kind of good thing do not happen anymore in this industry.
Elder Legend
Banned
Diablo IV is indeed real and is an open world MMO. Less than 2 weeks. Hold on to your butts.
As for this ancient 4chan "leak" it's quite obvious a really silly troll bait to get rise out of people. Please stop being so naive.
As for this ancient 4chan "leak" it's quite obvious a really silly troll bait to get rise out of people. Please stop being so naive.
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PeacefulWorldGuy
Neo Member
Eh seriously blizzard? Fps is fine but for shooter game only. Diablo fps? What's next? Diablo mario? Also...
ManaByte
Gold Member
Well he was right about the new Allied races in WoW.
Are you saying Metzen writes like a 14 year old, then?
A.Romero
Member
It amazes me how a company so highly regarded once could have ended like this in 15 years (and while making a lot of money).
I really doubt they try something too experimental (like a D4 FPS) as a mainline title. I mean, there is no need. Name it Call of Diablo or something like that. Fans expect a Diablo game in the mainline series. How difficult would that be to understand?
Also I fail to understand how a woke agenda would handle China like it recently did. I'd expect they would share values among them and wokeness is not what Pooh and friends like.
I really doubt they try something too experimental (like a D4 FPS) as a mainline title. I mean, there is no need. Name it Call of Diablo or something like that. Fans expect a Diablo game in the mainline series. How difficult would that be to understand?
Also I fail to understand how a woke agenda would handle China like it recently did. I'd expect they would share values among them and wokeness is not what Pooh and friends like.
Phase
Member
When you go public it's only a matter of time.
TYRiAX
Member
Kenpachii
Member
U know a ocmpany goes down the drain when it starts to hit the SJW agenda.
Diablo 4, rainbow pony's edition.
NiiloPielinen
Member
Overwatch 2: Stomp the rebellion
Play as Mercy and harvest organs from protesters for Glorious Leader! Watch as Tracer executes a granny! Have Doomfist beat down students!
Play as Mercy and harvest organs from protesters for Glorious Leader! Watch as Tracer executes a granny! Have Doomfist beat down students!
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
You forgot Diablo 3. Don't worry, I'm trying to as well..
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Blizzcon is gonna be an absolute disaster.
It's gonna be great.
It's gonna be great.
Hudo
Member
I wonder how many people try to cosplay as Winnie-the-pooh (And obviously won't be let into the convention center).
mcz117chief
Member
This will be, without a sliver of a doubt, the most tense Blizzcon ever.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Oh absolutely. So many things are gonna have to change for Blizzard to try and maintain control and ALL of them will be blatantly obvious.
For example the customary open Q&A sessions with fans? Kiss that goodbye. No way will they be letting random people take the mic. Not after last year's "April fool's comment" and this year's Hong Kong debacle. Blizzard would have to be actual morons to give a microphone to anyone. But at the same time if they announce no Q&A this year then everyone is gonna know exactly why and that will be it's own shitshow. So I think what's gonna happen is Blizzard is gonna either use handpicked people they planted themselves with Blizzard created/approved questions or they will just do away with the Q&A sessions and use some bullshit excuse like "reduced event time" or "streamlining the announcements".
Blizzard has already shown themselves to be completely incapable of understanding the situation and why fans are upset when they banned the college kids for 6 months as well and said "See we censor everyone equally!" as if that was gonna make things better. So before it's all said and done Blizzard is gonna make a clusterfuck out of their biggest event of the year and it's all because one guy supported human rights and that hurt China's feefees. One of the most powerful and respected game companies in the world brought to it's knees all because they value their wallet over human rights. It's unreal just how far this situation has degraded.
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mcz117chief
Member
Great summary, man. I am in total agreement.
The Q&A has always been about pre-approved questions but the Red Shirt guy lied to the moderators about what he was going to ask to get his "April Fool's joke" in, the result is that they won't allow him access to another Q&A again I think. Perhaps they will still maintain the old Q&A system and people will be emboldened by last year's and this year's events to really stick it up to Blizzard or it will go exactly as you predict, with Blizzard completely relying on plants or just scraping the whole thing.
SoggyBiscuit
Banned
You only have to look at Diablo 3's protracted development cycle and seeing how many times that project was rebooted and was, in general, a cluster fuck to know this rumour likely isn't that far off base.
Disappointing for sure to see Blizzard fall from grace this hard. Their recent political standings with China is certainly doing their image no favours.
Disappointing for sure to see Blizzard fall from grace this hard. Their recent political standings with China is certainly doing their image no favours.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
holy crap if that is true then i guess i am truly done with Blizzard.
I enjoyed Diablo 3 and even some Overwatch but it sounds like D4 + OW2 are straight up trash. I'll reserve judgement until they launch of course but i'm no longer excited in anything Blizzard have to offer. the thing about Diablo 4 that has me most concerned is it's ripping off Overwatch. not only using the engine but the game has Ults and 1st person? ewwwwww.
i think the company is gonna implode.
I enjoyed Diablo 3 and even some Overwatch but it sounds like D4 + OW2 are straight up trash. I'll reserve judgement until they launch of course but i'm no longer excited in anything Blizzard have to offer. the thing about Diablo 4 that has me most concerned is it's ripping off Overwatch. not only using the engine but the game has Ults and 1st person? ewwwwww.
i think the company is gonna implode.
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PerfectDark
Banned
Blizzard was dead to me 10 years ago. Same with Bioware. Any game from these devs were gold.
Diablo 3 has never been good.
Blizzard is not capable of making a Diablo 4. It will be a hot mess.
Simulation, RTS, MMO is dead. Becasue console games only matter and these are M&K games.
To me gaming has been dead for 10+ years. Sure you can find a game here and there.
I am glade I got to play games as a kid and enjoy games for 20 years.
My gaming tombstone says.
Rip good video games
1990- 2010.
Diablo 3 has never been good.
Blizzard is not capable of making a Diablo 4. It will be a hot mess.
Simulation, RTS, MMO is dead. Becasue console games only matter and these are M&K games.
To me gaming has been dead for 10+ years. Sure you can find a game here and there.
I am glade I got to play games as a kid and enjoy games for 20 years.
My gaming tombstone says.
Rip good video games
1990- 2010.
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DunDunDunpachi
Banned
The RTS genre didn't have to die. The core concept -- play the commander of a powerful army and shred your opponent's units -- should have translated to more mainstream genres. Pikmin and Overlord tried, but I want to see more.
It also should've been pushed more on consoles. Sacrilege, I know. The control scheme and the focus on a.p.m put things too far out of bounds for a controller, so the genre withered and died without the console lifeblood. Mismanagement from companies like EA and Microsoft put a lot of well-known RTS franchises into the grave.
In the 90s and early 00s RTS was a AAA genre. Sadly, no more.
It also should've been pushed more on consoles. Sacrilege, I know. The control scheme and the focus on a.p.m put things too far out of bounds for a controller, so the genre withered and died without the console lifeblood. Mismanagement from companies like EA and Microsoft put a lot of well-known RTS franchises into the grave.
In the 90s and early 00s RTS was a AAA genre. Sadly, no more.
Zurick
Banned
Just to squash this leak. I know it's fake because Mike Morheim didn't get a choice in leaving. There was no "Smelled which way the wind was blowing" because the decision wasn't his. He was forcefully retired when he was the sole vote to keep profit sharing and replaced with a yes man.
You forgot the microtransactions for bullets billed to the widows of summarily executed peacefully demonstrating protestors.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Diablo has never been one of my favorite franchises, but I enjoyed Diablo 3 for what it was. Despite buying the CE, I didn't really play them to completion until the PS4 version came out.
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MiguelItUp
Member
I totally believe this, at least a bit. They're gonna try to do whatever they can to "win back" their fans. Whether they do it or not... 
Blizzcon is going to be such a shit show, I cannot wait, lol.
Blizzcon is going to be such a shit show, I cannot wait, lol.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
"Blizzard" is just a name in front of a building. What actually made Blizzard different was the people inside it. That's the only thing that makes any company unique from any other. The ONLY thing. Once they're gone, or their voice stops being heard, it's a different company. It might be good, it might be bad, but it won't be the same. People don't realize this because the name is the same, the logo is the same, hey maybe they even come out with stuff they still like. But it's not the same company.
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Hari Seldon
Member
That is best case scenario. I have been drooling over that game for a while, wish it had a western release.
It's funny how people don't understand something so obvious that it should be self-evident.
You also have to factor in age. People burn out. Generally speaking, people do their best most important work when they're younger and still full of piss and vinegar. There's a reason that most Nobel Prize winners win for shit they did before they were 40.
Starcraft, World of Warcraft, etc. were the result of 16 hour days and people grinding out games passionately IN THEIR YOUTH. They weren't made by soccer moms or burnt out 50 year old dudes. Even though there some people from "the old days" still at Activision, they're all like 45+ people who groan whenever getting up and SIGH A LOT during interviews. It's painfully fucking obvious that they're not at the top of their game anymore. That shop, as it is, is never going to make another seminal game.
Kawika
Member
Games were quite good before 1990 but I digress.
bumleforce
Member
I'm not white but that one about the 4 guys happy to develope a game with no what men is racist and stupid. Stupid woke culture I also had no idea wow numbers got so low. I mean the game has been around for 2 console generations. Sad blizzard has been my favorite company but it seema like a call center now with all the drama. Sucks
s34ab
Banned
Reminds me of Bioware when the people behind their first few games left. People were still pushing "bioware game" as if it meant anything.
dust bunny
Member
Just read the OP for the first time. Did any of the "leaks" turn out to be true yet?
Can't wait for blizzcon. I love a good shit show.
Can't wait for blizzcon. I love a good shit show.
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LazyParrot
Member
He got the two allied races for WoW right, but that's about it.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Yea, definitely. Look at Underworld Ascendant. They came out with this KS pitch about how they're all the dudes who made Ultima Underworld, they are calling back that game, it's gonna be an evolution of the design, it's the same people, they know what they want to do with today's technology, etc. Needless to say it didn't work out.
Obviously people can continue to push boundaries as they get older. Miyamoto was over 40 when he spearheaded Zelda OOT and Mario 64. But it's much harder and arguably what sets apart the true geniuses from the merely very skilled and talented. And even he started to step aside shortly thereafter, while also ensuring the culture that made the company flourish lived on. Of course if the solution to this problem is to find a Miyamoto, well... it's easy to see what a big problem it is for any organization.
Miyamoto wasn't an in the trenches guy even during the SNES days, though. He was basically already a manager by that point. Whole different ball game. I really don't think older people can actually be in the trenches doing that kind of work at that level honestly. It's incredibly rare if not unheard of.
Even people like John Carmack couldn't keep their younger pace. Doing Quake 1 level work is not sustainable for decades. Any human would burn out.
Kenpachii
Member
Age has nothing to do with it. The reason u don't see much old people because game development wasn't much of a profession back in the day.
The reason is money and the lack of interest in things outside of there comfort zone.
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Age has a lot to do with it. Just wait. Very few of the current dev's today are going to be around for 30+ more years.
What are you even saying?
Many fail, crash, and burn.
It is a sad fact (among legion others) of mega-corporate culture.
The Cliffy Bs of the world are gonna run game, make bank on gaming, and cut and run.
Just so, the Randy Pitchfords, once their shady acts and contempt for the industry and the very source of said industry - the games consumers, finally catch them up.
The Kojimas and Igas will be around as long as it brings them profitable acclaim.
The Miyamotos are going to endure, forever.
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Miyamoto isn't a game developer. He hasn't been for like 25 years. He's a manager. He's so far removed it doesn't even count for what we're talking about as game developers.
Kenpachii
Member
I don't see why they wouldn't. It's there profession.
JSoup
Banned
He's listed as a developer and producer for several games over the last decade, what are you even on about.
The whole thing about him was wanting to step back from the lead positions he had taken on and work on games again.
RPGCrazied
Member
Diablo 4 is only getting announced because of the backlash immortal got. If not for that I bet 4 would still be a ways off. And of course we're getting a new WoW expansion announced.
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IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Noice.