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Drama at Kotaku

You all got my hopes up that Kotaku is kill because of their click-bait politics but it's just plain old employees bad-mouthing their boss. And it's not even directly about Kotaku. I guess I got click-baited into this thread. Hey Jooxed Jooxed , I heard there's vacancies over at G/O Media, maybe you can apply.
 

MayauMiao

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It’s easier just not to go there at all. Has worked for me for years. Haven’t missed out on anything worthwhile. Unless of course, I care about Mario’s nipples or if Pokemon is racist or some equally useless shit.

I barely read Kotaku but I set up adblock anyway in case I accidentally click a link to the site. Most gaming news I get is from here or youtube.
 
i guess im in the minority but i actually like some of the articles they do. as an example:

i've seen some pure dog shit come out of there as well, but thats easy enough to ignore
 

ExpandKong

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Already more coherent than Kotaku reviews which are endless unstructured paragraphs with no sections or headings.

You will also notice that I did it all without wondering how big Leon’s dick is or shoving a Joy-Con up my ass to check for connectivity issues.

You all got my hopes up that Kotaku is kill because of their click-bait politics but it's just plain old employees bad-mouthing their boss. And it's not even directly about Kotaku. I guess I got click-baited into this thread. Hey Jooxed Jooxed , I heard there's vacancies over at G/O Media, maybe you can apply.

Al Capone was busted for tax evasion. I’ll take it.
 

Komatsu

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Regardless of the site's quality and clickbait-y content, I know a lot of these journalists live in NYC and being out of a paycheck is certainly a painful situation. Hopefully they'll all land on their feet.
 

nush

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Boy, this recent interview with Jason has aged well.

Pay special attention how he immediately pushes himself as an author right off the bat as that has more credibility.
 
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Regardless of the site's quality and clickbait-y content, I know a lot of these journalists live in NYC and being out of a paycheck is certainly a painful situation. Hopefully they'll all land on their feet.

Journalism in General no longer needs to be in any office or big Cities anymore. It's better off if they just have their Journalist live anywhere away from City Hubs and can video chat as long as they have access to the internet.
 

Komatsu

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Journalism in General no longer needs to be in any office or big Cities anymore. It's better off if they just have their Journalist live anywhere away from City Hubs and can video chat as long as they have access to the internet.

You are absolutely correct, but for many reasons (some of them rather dumb), 80% of the people working in the big players in the online media landscape (Vox Media, G&O, etc.) all live within 3 miles of each other in Brooklyn. Former Bushwick resident here, so I know these types well.
 

CyberPanda

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You are absolutely correct, but for many reasons (some of them rather dumb), 80% of the people working in the big players in the online media landscape (Vox Media, G&O, etc.) all live within 3 miles of each other in Brooklyn. Former Bushwick resident here, so I know these types well.
Yep, and they wonder why Conservative Digital Media has been rapidly growing. They don't have any main office in a city hub.
 
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Nydius

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Haven't been around in a while but this news made me feel like posting again. This is one step and I hope one of many before Kotaku (and the rest of their sister sites) are gone. I'm getting a right good laugh out of Schreier claiming that anyone happy about this news is an 'alt-right chud', as if it was only the alt-right Kotaku took a piss on over the years. He succinctly shows his own leftist bias with that tweet (as if many of us didn't already know, some of us more than others [speaking from experience]).

I'm also laughing at his claims that this is all because Deadspin is having their "editorial autonomy" infringed. No matter what anyone else may claim, Deadspin started as a sports blog. Their popularity was built off of being a sports blog. They were a direct shot at Bleacher Report which was launched the same year. But then Gawker let all of their sites bleed into each other. Articles that were at home on Jezebel were being written and published on Deadspin or Kotaku -- and vice versa. They all were part of the same shitshow and the lines between them all were blurred.

So the new owners come in (and they're lucky they can even get new owners after all the controversy Gawker sites have stirred up) and tell Deadspin to get back to sports. You know, that thing that they were originally created for? Deadspin throws a temper tantrum, Kotaku follows suit, and G/O Media lays down the law. Sounds perfectly legit to me.

If Kotaku, Deadspin, and Jezebel disappeared tomorrow, nothing of value would be lost.
 

Kamina

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Can someone please explain?
An editor gets layed off (doubtful that he was fired) for some stuff he apparently didnt do.
But why the random inconsistent twitter drama? It all feels so disconnected.
 

FMXVII

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Kotaku is so out of touch, that might as well be a "ten" symbol.

Kotaku is so out of touch, Optimus took the Matrix back.

Kotaku is so out of touch, Jason Schreier posts his face unironically.

Kotaku is so out of touch, crazy wants its mild epithet back.

Kotaku is so out of touch, Apple is safe.

Kotaku is so out of touch, celibacy said "fuck it."
 
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LOLCats

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Deserved, i mean really how many people stopped reading kotaku because of their bias SJW shit, im one of them.

The few good "journalists" left there will find work easy elswhere, for the others like Patricia Hernandez, well Later asshats.
 
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nush

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You are absolutely correct, but for many reasons (some of them rather dumb), 80% of the people working in the big players in the online media landscape (Vox Media, G&O, etc.) all live within 3 miles of each other in Brooklyn. Former Bushwick resident here, so I know these types well.

It super common for businesses to have a vanity address, all the directors can afford to live close by. The rest of the workers can't, so they have long commutes, shitty tiny apartments or house shares.
 

Komatsu

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It super common for businesses to have a vanity address, all the directors can afford to live close by. The rest of the workers can't, so they have long commutes, shitty tiny apartments or house shares.

Yep. They usually all commute to Manhattan when/if they need bodies in the office. Media people usually share apartments in neighborhoods such as Williamsburg, Bushwick, Green Point, Park Slope, Prospect, etc. I have no idea how much money these people make - probably not a lot, as all my media friends are perpetually broke - but the vast majority of media people in this ecosystem live in NYC proper. From the lefty types at Jacobin all the way to most of the gaming journos in sites like Kotaku, Polygon, etc. Some of the newsy websites like Splinter (defunct), Mic, etc. had "newsrooms" but most likely outlets like Kotaku were probably all strictly remote.
 

GreyHorace

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So I'm a bit late to this party. But man, after catching up on everything that's transpired, I can't help but laugh at the sheer stupidity of it all.

Kotaku decides to shit on their new management by telling readers how to turn off the ads? In what reality did they think this was a good idea?

Forget about fanboys being entitled, it's journalists who are truly whiny about what they feel they're entitled to. Did Schreier and his fellow cucks think being part of the so called press grants them immunity from the consequences of their woke agenda?

And what's with this talk of unionizing? Unless they have the support of readers (i.e. gamers), this whole plan of theirs is going to fail in spectacular fashion. And game journalism in recent years seems hell bent on trying to piss off gamers, who should be their main audience.
 
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Game journalism seems to be one of those jobs that actively hates the audience they are supposed to be providing a service to and that pays their salaries.

Their target audience is the traffic ( metric ) they tout to advertisers for ad rates. Their income comes from those advertisers which are typically the companies they are reviewing. (which brings up interesting questions on how they review and report on the companies that pays their salaries)

They will post anything that gets traffic to then tout to advertisers.

What we see as "woke" was initially concieved as sensational hot takes around 2010 to get people to click on the website for traffic. Didn't matter if the people clicking approve or disapprove of the content or the editorial stance, so long as they clicked on the ad and upped the web traffic count.. Eventually though, they hired people who believed this stance to varrying degrees.

The TLDR version: What many call "woke" or "sjw" was supposed to be bullshit and sensational hot takes to get web traffic for advertising money that some people eventually started to believe in. That's why some of us on the left of center see SJWs as a fucking joke of a political position. They drank the koolaide of what was supposed to be clickbait for money.

Edit: Don't give them traffic. Voice your opinion they are clickbait/disingenious/intellectually dishonest. If you must read their article, get an ad block extension for your browser. If you want to discuss the article, copy and paste it or use a service that does. Starve them at the root and they will go away as we are seeing now.
 
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Paracelsus

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Their target audience is the traffic ( metric ) they tout to advertisers for ad rates. Their income comes from those advertisers which are typically the companies they are reviewing. (which brings up interesting questions on how they review and report on the companies that pays their salaries)

They will post anything that gets traffic to then tout to advertisers.

What we see as "woke" was initially concieved as sensational hot takes around 2010 to get people to click on the website for traffic. Didn't matter if the people clicking approve or disapprove of the content or the editorial stance, so long as they clicked on the ad and upped the web traffic count.. Eventually though, they hired people who believed this stance to varrying degrees.

The TLDR version: What many call "woke" or "sjw" was supposed to be bullshit and sensational hot takes to get web traffic for advertising money that some people eventually started to believe in. That's why some of us on the left of center see SJWs as a fucking joke of a political position. They drank the koolaide of what was supposed to be clickbait for money.

Proof of this is the reaction on reddit.
"The new owners want to suppress what makes Kotaku popular". More like the only thing barely keeping them alive.

Also, why the * would they cry to the unions? They're biased partisan crooks, they defied the code of ethics time and time again, and now they want to exercise the first amendment in a private corporate environment after all the times they said "first amendment doesn't work with corporations"? Basically "I'll keep shilling against Dvorak Grumplfh on your dime and you can't stop me"?

If people like Schreier, just have him start his own "solo" journalist site, maybe that'll clear his mind from that kotaku poison.
 
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For years, they have culture cancelled people because "first amendment doesn't work in a private corporate environment", now they bitch because they can't shill whatever they want?




Proof of this is the reaction on reddit.
"The new owners want to suppress what makes Kotaku popular". More like the only thing barely keeping them alive.

Also, why the * would they cry to the unions? They're biased partisan crooks, they defied the code of ethics time and time again, and now they want to exercise the first amendment in a private corporate environment after all the times they said "first amendment doesn't work with corporations"? Basically "I'll keep shilling against Dvorak Grumplfh on your dime and you can't stop me"?

If people like Schreier, just have him start his own "solo" journalist site, maybe that'll clear his mind from that kotaku poison.

I agree and don't have much to add to this other than Schreier is an interesting case. He can do journalism but he seems like a total grifter that can read the room. He writes anything that boosts his personal stock value with the circles he wants to. He is wildly inconsistent in tone and opinions (example being working conditions of different companies - Bioware and Valve) which makes me believe it's journalism as a performative act. The social following of an audience appears to just be a side perk that I don't think he cares about. He will land on his feet unlike the rest with a non gaming publication.
 
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Kazza

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I'm guessing they are just trolling their own management with these articles (although parody and real life is sometimes very hard to differentiate these days):


 
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bosnianpie

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"gaming journalists" :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Isn't that the profession where you fuck around with peoples livelihood by claiming that their game is racist or sexist so your ideologically "woke" website can gain some more clicks?
 
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