I know not everybody likes him but he has a video on this.....
So after this shitshow there is any doubt about inflated score in nintendo games anymore??
Where i said that the game was perfect??The game is scoring 81 as an average, nobody is saying it's perfect, but at the same time they seem to be saying the positives outweigh the negatives, of course this will never sit well with complainers who have decided not to like the game no matter what, even though they have of course never played it.
Where i said that the game was perfect??
But 81 for a game with shitty graphics, shitty animation, no challenge at all and severe cut compared to old games (plus straight LIES from devs) is an inflated score, but you do you and buy 5 copies so next time they are gonna give you gameboy graphics and 15 total pokemon and you will still be happy
Its not because they don't care doens't means reviewers/game journalist can hide the problem from them. This is bullshit.All the complaining in the world will make little difference to GameFreak, as it's just the minority of core hobby games like us that are upset, as I have said the mass Pokemon fans who this game is aimed at simply does not care or even know about the issues.
Its not because they don't care doens't means reviewers/game journalist can hide the problem from them. This is bullshit.
They're the consumers. They have the right to know before buy. After that they can make their our decision. Some will ignore the info, other will be more careful.
Don't matter. The info need to be there. Like you or not. We can all ignore or simple make a search before actually get the product.You are missing my point, the only people who care that much about reviews are the core gamers, the rest of the mass buying Pokemon audience will simply buy this game because it's the next one in the series, just like FIFA and Call of duty, now of course the internet posting minorities who know far more than anyone else will call them foolish for doing so, while at the same time not realizing that the only people actually listening are the people posting on the internet, so I am not sure even if the reviews were more negative it would make all that much difference, my take is the reviews are about right as the game is aimed at the wider mass Pokemon fans.
Don't matter. The info need to be there. Like you or not. We can all ignore or simple make a search before actually get the product.
C'mon dude, its not that hard to understand. If some casual/fanboys don't care about the info is not the point. The information must be there, for any product, not only for games, but for food, medicine, eletronics, etc...
Developer Game Freak clearly shifted its efforts away from the National Pokédex, adding 10 to 20 new Pokémon and creating a brand new region.
So to all you Pokéfreaks who can’t be be happy for a fantastic Pokémon game, me and my giant Grookey will be waiting to razor leaf your ass online.
Support mediocore shit and gamefreak will never change its old designs. Reviews shillin and people buying this thing like crazy. Have fun with the next game being exactly the same.
Or worst.Support mediocore shit and gamefreak will never change its old designs. Reviews shillin and people buying this thing like crazy. Have fun with the next game being exactly the same.
So after this shitshow there is any doubt about inflated score in nintendo games anymore??
Why just Nintendo?
People have know for YEARS that the reliability of video game reviewers is hit and miss at best and dishonest and agenda driven at worst.
I don't see how this particular game confirms it because the reviewers didn't totally wreck it.
To be honest here it feels like if the reviews were bad then you'd be holding them up as proof that the game is bad.
So actually you've somehow turned it into a situation where I would be more inclined to have sympathy for the reviewers since they are put in a no win situation.
Enjoyed the game? Well you'd better not give it a good score you Nintendo bootlicker!
Hated the game? Give it a low score and the same people lining up to call you a shill for positive reviews will accept you as the one true reviewer.
You've already defeated your own argument by having "reviewers can't be trusted as a starting point" because now I can just assume that those who gave it a bad review AND those who gave it a good review are equally full of shit. So I might as well just take the average score and judge the game based on that. Looks like it's an 81 then.
Unless your argument is that only reviewers who give the game a negative review can be trusted?
Because every reviewer is biased to Nintendo and gives them a pass.
With the summary seeming to be that it's not the best game ever made but if you like this kind of thing then you will probably really like the game.
Because every reviewer is biased to Nintendo and gives them a pass, and of course we can only ever trust negative reviews as they are the only ones telling it as it is.
Nitpicks are "the cosmetics felt a bit limited," not "the gameplay was tedious and the graphics were underwhelming." You're doing a consumer no favors by sugarcoating every issue you come across in a product. Consumers rely on reviews for an honest consensus on a game - reviews should not be used to defend the reputation of a game, or gloss over its flaws as to not rock to boat.
Here are the "worst offenders" from the [IGN] article, IMO, all of which include some kind of concession, sugarcoat, or unnecessary defense:
"While Sword and Shield aren’t among the best-looking games on the Switch, the first mainline Pokemon games you can play on a big-screen TV certainly don’t look bad, either.
"On top of that there’s some noticeable pop-in of wild Pokemon and items, and other small quirks that, still, never disrupted play."
"There’s only so many times you can see your character throw a giant ball and your Pokemon get big. But I do like the mechanic more than I thought I would."
"Sword and Shield’s overarching story, which runs parallel to your personal quest of conquering the Galar region’s Gym Challenge, had a few twists that surprised me, but not enough time was spent on developing it to make it a marquee feature – as is usual with Pokemon. I was at least glad that there was more to discover about the story after the credits roll, roughly 39 hours in!"
I don't trust review, but a shitload of people unlike me care about scores and reviews, i was more talking about them.Why just Nintendo?
People have know for YEARS that the reliability of video game reviewers is hit and miss at best and dishonest and agenda driven at worst.
I don't see how this particular game confirms it because the reviewers didn't totally wreck it.
To be honest here it feels like if the reviews were bad then you'd be holding them up as proof that the game is bad.
So actually you've somehow turned it into a situation where I would be more inclined to have sympathy for the reviewers since they are put in a no win situation.
Enjoyed the game? Well you'd better not give it a good score you Nintendo bootlicker!
Hated the game? Give it a low score and the same people lining up to call you a shill for positive reviews will accept you as the one true reviewer.
You've already defeated your own argument by having "reviewers can't be trusted as a starting point" because now I can just assume that those who gave it a bad review AND those who gave it a good review are equally full of shit. So I might as well just take the average score and judge the game based on that. Looks like it's an 81 then.
Unless your argument is that only reviewers who give the game a negative review can be trusted?
Which is also coincidentally 99% of games.
I don't trust review, but a shitload of people unlike me care about scores and reviews, i was more talking about them.
Also a little zinger to the people who think that the narrative about nintendo titles having inflated score is crazy talk.
Sure sony and M have their inflated score too like everyone, but nintendo take the cake as usual (only rockstar is even worst)
Last 2 big sony games are days gone and ds, a 71 and a 83 and even in their worst moments, they are good games with cutting age graphics, good story, good gameplay loop and insane production values, and then you have 81 for probably one of the worst main pokemon title ever with psvita or worst production values and cutted contenents...
I love many games but i'm honest about their flaws (jist read my many rants on rdr2, my last years goty), a journalist needs this attitude to the max because many people wait for their rewiews to decide if they want to buy a game.Right, but it's a daft conversation then because if all scores are inflated then you just say "OK, chop 2 or 3 points off and you've got the real score". So the scale is just 1 to 7 and Pokemon is still near the higher end of the scale.
You put the reviewers in an impossible position. If they like a game and give it a high score then they are a bunch of liars who inflate scores. So giving a game a low score is their only option regardless of how they feel about it.
Sorry, but the IGN lady, for example, seems like the kind of person who loves Pokemon games,
So what do you want her to say? "I love Pokemon games and I loved this Pokemon game... 6 out of 10".
It's dumb.
"Hey, I really liked this game"
"Noooo! You can't like it! Look at how bad it is! No no no no please don't give it a high score! I think it's bad and so should everyone."
It's fine to ignore reviewers and it's fine to think they are full of shit.
If that's your view though then you can't really say "actually THIS time they are saying what I want them to say so it's alright".
Just seems like people want to pick and choose.
Right, but it's a daft conversation then because if all scores are inflated then you just say "OK, chop 2 or 3 points off and you've got the real score". So the scale is just 1 to 7 and Pokemon is still near the higher end of the scale.
You put the reviewers in an impossible position. If they like a game and give it a high score then they are a bunch of liars who inflate scores. So giving a game a low score is their only option regardless of how they feel about it.
Sorry, but the IGN lady, for example, seems like the kind of person who loves Pokemon games,
So what do you want her to say? "I love Pokemon games and I loved this Pokemon game... 6 out of 10".
It's dumb.
"Hey, I really liked this game"
"Noooo! You can't like it! Look at how bad it is! No no no no please don't give it a high score! I think it's bad and so should everyone."
It's fine to ignore reviewers and it's fine to think they are full of shit.
If that's your view though then you can't really say "actually THIS time they are saying what I want them to say so it's alright".
Just seems like people want to pick and choose.
I know not everybody likes him but he has a video on this.....
So they lied and now their justification for cutting so many Pokemon makes no sense?
I love many games but i'm honest about their flaws (jist read my many rants on rdr2, my last years goty), a journalist needs this attitude to the max because many people wait for their rewiews to decide if they want to buy a game.
Horizon is probably my game of the gen but i can write 10 pages of flaws that need to be adjusted in the sequel.
Same for every game i play.
We are not 5 years old babies without critics spirits just because we put money on that game or because we are fan of the saga.
9.3 to the worst pokemon main game in years (or maybe ever) is complete bullshit, even more when you are a journalist and your job is to make these flaws clear to your readers.
If you can't discern your love for a vg saga and the objective flaws of a game, then you are not cutted to be a reviewers, this is my point of view, harsh or not, i don't really give a damn.It's only complete bullshit because you disagree though.
You're talking as if she isn't allowed to say she really likes the game because it might influence other people to buy it.
So that's where we are at with a Pokemon game right now.
Those reviewers had better because people who hate the game can't bear to see other people buying it and thinking "hm, this is pretty good".
You want them not to recommend a game because YOU think it's shit. Why the hell would you care though?
I can have a bit of sympathy maybe for a kid who believes the reviews and now so excited to rush home tomorrow to play the brand new Pokemon game. Then when they discover that loads of Pokemon and moves were cut and it totally ruins their experience. How many people is that really going to apply to though?
The IGN reviewer is a Pokemon fan and we were told that fans will hate it but there she is saying it's good.
If someone loved Sun and Moon are they really going to get their hands on Sword and Shield and be like "those reviewers lied to me the game is garbage"?
It honestly just feels like this level of negativity must be a bit exhausting?
People are obviously going to like the game when they get it.
No amount of trying to logically reason with them is going to make them dislike something that they like.
To be honest they should have never had to justify this in the first place, it's their game they can cut the Dex if they want to, and considering the masses will not give a damn about it, why try to appease a small minority of core internet posting Pokemon fans, who for one the game is not aimed at in the first place and secondly will moan and complain no matter what GameFreak did.
IGN is a joke now. I wonder how much GameFreak sucked them off to write that kind of review. I respect the reviewers that don't have scores way more than the ones that have to put a number on it.
Well you know reviewers aren't being bribed to give a bad review.If you look at it that way why bother with reviews in the first place?, just make up your own mind as the only opinion that should matter is your own, but I do still wonder why people are so quick to trust a negative review rather than a positive one, from my viewpoint either end of the spectrum could have an agenda behind it.
They don't HAVE to justify it unless they want to appease their loyal fans. Lying about it though, that's just stupid on their part.
It's so interesting this attitude that companies shouldn't care what they customers think.
Well you know reviewers aren't being bribed to give a bad review.
If you look at it that way why bother with reviews in the first place?, just make up your own mind as the only opinion that should matter is your own, but I do still wonder why people are so quick to trust a negative review rather than a positive one, from my viewpoint either end of the spectrum could have an agenda behind it.
Here is my issue with this, the "Loyal fans" you are talking about are the ones that would visit and post on internet forums, the mass Pokemon buying public will not even be aware of the issues never mind GameFreak's apologies/justifications for the dex cut, and it's not a case of the company not caring, but in the day they will never be able to please everybody.
So you are saying 'loyal fans shouldn't complain because the game will sell millions anyway?' If so, I don't understand that logic at all.
Besides that dexit, the IGN review don't mention any aspect of the gameplay. Is this the new kind of review format?
Damn, even the time you spend they don't mention. They made a very harsh review from DS.
I knew you would come round in the end, which one are you buying Sword or Shield ?.
Sad that a new game that comes along with loads of new ideas, insane graphics, no bugs, no shit, but just different gameplay got shit on so badly by them. they are stil one of the biggest sites so they have alot of influence..
Right, but it's a daft conversation then because if all scores are inflated then you just say "OK, chop 2 or 3 points off and you've got the real score". So the scale is just 1 to 7 and Pokemon is still near the higher end of the scale.
You put the reviewers in an impossible position. If they like a game and give it a high score then they are a bunch of liars who inflate scores. So giving a game a low score is their only option regardless of how they feel about it.
Sorry, but the IGN lady, for example, seems like the kind of person who loves Pokemon games,
So what do you want her to say? "I love Pokemon games and I loved this Pokemon game... 6 out of 10".
It's dumb.
"Hey, I really liked this game"
"Noooo! You can't like it! Look at how bad it is! No no no no please don't give it a high score! I think it's bad and so should everyone."
It's fine to ignore reviewers and it's fine to think they are full of shit.
If that's your view though then you can't really say "actually THIS time they are saying what I want them to say so it's alright".
Just seems like people want to pick and choose.
Sorry, but the IGN lady, for example, seems like the kind of person who loves Pokemon games,
So what do you want her to say? "I love Pokemon games and I loved this Pokemon game... 6 out of 10".
Agreed and would add that I think people who play games for a living want to like them, hence why they're not as vocal about the flaws as normal players.