1. New leadership with gaming as the main focus vs.XB1s tv nonsense.
I know, anything beyond counting the boxes that left the shelves is complex. Let's call them Charlie Sheen, that will teach them.
I am very positive about microsoft its the fans that make me puke.Wow I wasn't aware people could put tags on other peoples thread titles, I guess I haven't paid much attention to tags on threads before you brought this up.
I'm sorry so see this., I think you made a very reasonable post without unnecessary hyperbole, stated and tagged it as your opinion and laid out why it was your opinion.
I guess saying anything positive about Xbox is now considered clickbait.
There is no reason why MS can't turn around the Xbox brand. MS did it with the 360 after the OG Xbox,Sony did it with PS4 after PS3 and Nintenddo did it with the Wii after the Gamecube,and again wwith Switch after the WiiU.
I agree they have everything they need to be on top. And even if they are not first place it doesnt matter. X360 and ps3 were neck in neck.
The 360 was the ultimate for me next to the ps2, because of tones of games and they performed better, the controller was awesome! Didnt have to deal with online drms or whatsoever could just get any disk plug ut and play it, but
This so much. Well stated. It is just noise.
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I dont understand this cry for cross play.
my dude you are a posting contradiction. Why even make this thread then ?
You do know that Ninja Theory and Team Ninja (Makers of Ninja Gaiden) are two different development houses right?
Mhhh now i get it, dont know why ms chose the stupidest games and companies though and the ocean on hellblade 2 as the video starts is similar to team ninjas logo at the start!
Listen I know everyone is entitled to their opinion but when you don't know the simplest facts it makes it hard to even consider your opinion in the first place.
There will be at least 2 ways of defining winning and losing in the console market from next generation on:
I declare myself impressed by Microsoft's transformation since the botched XboxOne launch and the replacement of Mattrick. They could have confined themselves to damage control and touted how they were still selling at a faster rate than the 360 (they did for a little while), which had already been unanimously acclaimed as a success. I commend Phil's guts to change course as drastically and quickly as he did. It took balls and humility to not just drop the DRM limitations but to take the kinect out of a product that had based the legitimacy of its price on it. To accept to take the ridicule and flak due to that admitted failure for years in order to build the foundation for better days. Xbox have never been this respected a gaming brand, even after having just "lost" a generation. The live crowd reactions at the game awards reveal were very telling, given that this wasn't a Microsoft event with a pre-conquered audience and nobody had expected their presence on stage. Even the stock of Ninja's theory name has already skyrocketed beyond what it's ever been, partially through their association with Microsoft. People weren't screaming just at the mention of the NT brand when they were still independent and making multiplats.
- Selling the most consoles: this has been the traditional success barometer until this generation. It may be a legitimate one in many regards but I think that Microsoft is defining a business model that will make this count irrelevant. With xcloud not requiring a console and Game Pass being accessible also on PC, with Game Pass itself receiving more an more games from publishers at increasing frequency, Microsoft has multiplied the revenue streams way beyond the cash received in exchange for a box sold. Combined with the fact that mid-gen refreshes now happen every 3 years, backwards compatibility becomes more important than ever to make sure that the count doesn't reset and the subscriptions just keep adding up. My main point here is that MS seems to have put itself in position to leverage ecosystem adoption in a way that comfortably mitigates selling fewer consoles than other manufacturers. You don't need to buy their box to be their customer. They will find you where you like to play. Chances are it includes your PC or your phone or tablet. You're Sony only? Wanna try Hellblade 2 with your dualshock 5 controller on your laptop screen when you're bored of Godfall? How about a gamepass/xcloud trial for a week? No, you're not dreaming. Those 100 other AAA games from the last 3 generations are available to you too. If you subscribe at the end of your trial for 14$ a month. On the go or on your 65'' inch "playstation only" gaming TV. And every future Xbox game studios exclusive comes day one for free from then on.
- Being the most ubiquitous gaming brand. The brand that other gaming companies have to partner with in order to stay up to date with their customers expectations in terms of services (cloud infrastructure). The brand that game publishers have to come to in order to maximise the value of their IPs beyond what would have otherwise been their natural lifecycle (FF, Kingdom hearts and Yakuza on game pass anyone?). The brand that the most hardcore gamers who can't or refuse to spend over 800 bucks on a gaming machine but still expect the best gaming technology that money can buy have to come to. A brand capable of competing with any other company in terms of providing the "best" exclusive games (best will always be a matter of taste, they just have to keep this one close and cover all tastes ).
In sum, provided that MS's now obvious targets for the next generation (which they are well on track to meet) are in fact met:
Provided those 6 things all happen, I can't envision Microsoft "losing" the next generation.
- having the (more or less clearly) most powerful console
- Releasing a minimum of 3 AAA exclusive games A YEAR, only one of them being either Halo, Gears or Forza
- Rolling out xcloud at the same or comparable quality as stadia but with the power of game pass behind it for a low subscription fee
- seamless backwards compatibility all the way back to the xbox 360
- More smart and tactical marketing decisions such as the game awards reveal going forward
- Ensuring that every mid-gen refresh maintains the "most powerful" advantage
Give me your thoughts. Fanboys allowed but tone it down, thanks
As u said everybody is entiteld to his own opinion so decide what u decide im not asking or begging anybody to believe me thats ur decision im not a religios leader looking for followers!
Ok there buddy.. I'm moving on now ok..ok thanks bye.
Df alex said he thinks its pre rendered.
There will be at least 2 ways of defining winning and losing in the console market from next generation on:
I declare myself impressed by Microsoft's transformation since the botched XboxOne launch and the replacement of Mattrick. They could have confined themselves to damage control and touted how they were still selling at a faster rate than the 360 (they did for a little while), which had already been unanimously acclaimed as a success. I commend Phil's guts to change course as drastically and quickly as he did. It took balls and humility to not just drop the DRM limitations but to take the kinect out of a product that had based the legitimacy of its price on it. To accept to take the ridicule and flak due to that admitted failure for years in order to build the foundation for better days. Xbox have never been this respected a gaming brand, even after having just "lost" a generation. The live crowd reactions at the game awards reveal were very telling, given that this wasn't a Microsoft event with a pre-conquered audience and nobody had expected their presence on stage. Even the stock of Ninja's theory name has already skyrocketed beyond what it's ever been, partially through their association with Microsoft. People weren't screaming just at the mention of the NT brand when they were still independent and making multiplats.
- Selling the most consoles: this has been the traditional success barometer until this generation. It may be a legitimate one in many regards but I think that Microsoft is defining a business model that will make this count irrelevant. With xcloud not requiring a console and Game Pass being accessible also on PC, with Game Pass itself receiving more an more games from publishers at increasing frequency, Microsoft has multiplied the revenue streams way beyond the cash received in exchange for a box sold. Combined with the fact that mid-gen refreshes now happen every 3 years, backwards compatibility becomes more important than ever to make sure that the count doesn't reset and the subscriptions just keep adding up. My main point here is that MS seems to have put itself in position to leverage ecosystem adoption in a way that comfortably mitigates selling fewer consoles than other manufacturers. You don't need to buy their box to be their customer. They will find you where you like to play. Chances are it includes your PC or your phone or tablet. You're Sony only? Wanna try Hellblade 2 with your dualshock 5 controller on your laptop screen when you're bored of Godfall? How about a gamepass/xcloud trial for a week? No, you're not dreaming. Those 100 other AAA games from the last 3 generations are available to you too. If you subscribe at the end of your trial for 14$ a month. On the go or on your 65'' inch "playstation only" gaming TV. And every future Xbox game studios exclusive comes day one for free from then on.
- Being the most ubiquitous gaming brand. The brand that other gaming companies have to partner with in order to stay up to date with their customers expectations in terms of services (cloud infrastructure). The brand that game publishers have to come to in order to maximise the value of their IPs beyond what would have otherwise been their natural lifecycle (FF, Kingdom hearts and Yakuza on game pass anyone?). The brand that the most hardcore gamers who can't or refuse to spend over 800 bucks on a gaming machine but still expect the best gaming technology that money can buy have to come to. A brand capable of competing with any other company in terms of providing the "best" exclusive games (best will always be a matter of taste, they just have to keep this one close and cover all tastes ).
In sum, provided that MS's now obvious targets for the next generation (which they are well on track to meet) are in fact met:
Provided those 6 things all happen, I can't envision Microsoft "losing" the next generation.
- having the (more or less clearly) most powerful console
- Releasing a minimum of 3 AAA exclusive games A YEAR, only one of them being either Halo, Gears or Forza
- Rolling out xcloud at the same or comparable quality as stadia but with the power of game pass behind it for a low subscription fee
- seamless backwards compatibility all the way back to the xbox 360
- More smart and tactical marketing decisions such as the game awards reveal going forward
- Ensuring that every mid-gen refresh maintains the "most powerful" advantage
Give me your thoughts. Fanboys allowed but tone it down, thanks
You fail to realize this Microsoft, unlike the 360 Era Microsft, has given Phil Spencer the autonomy to do almost whatever is needed to be done with Sateya the only person he has to go through to get it approved. Things are night and day different this time around.
Tell me these things that can be done. Price and an early launch weren't enough and that's when your previous purchases carrying over and online weren't even a factor.
Because I like gaming and because I can. My post had nothing to do with Microsoft's bank account
sales = money
