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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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I have seen credible leaks where Sony's GPU is putting out less than 12tflops

"Now respected Japanese leaker Komachi Ensakahas dropped hints about the console’s true power.
In a tweet, he claimed that the GPU (graphics processing unit) will be clocked to 2GHz.
The clock-rate is the frequency at which the GPU runs, and a higher speed can often (though not always) mean boosted performance.
According to Komachi, the boosted clock-rate will allow the PS5 to achieve 9.2TF, or teraflops."

www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9754192/ps5-leak-graphics-gpu-teraflops-specs-sony/amp/

Or this one from April 2019, which correctly had the tflops of both anaconda and Lockhart and it also says the PS5 will be weaker than the Xbox.
www.tweaktown.com/news/65642/next-gen-xbox-even-more-powerful-ps5/amp.html

There is other ones as well which show a weaker PS5 GPU.

So there's no real deffinate stats with which to call it just yet.
Komachi has never said what the total Oberon cu count is . People assumed it’s 40 (the 9.2 to 10.2 tf figure )due to Backward compatibility 1 being 18 and bc2 being 40 . That could just means ps5 uses 40 cu to immulate ps4 pro games with improved fidelity (40 instead of 36) and ps4 games with no patch at 18 just like ps4.

Again he has never mentioned total cu count .all of that is speculation.jist the clocks and cu count for BC1 and BC2
 
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Lort

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I have seen credible leaks where Sony's GPU is putting out less than 12tflops

"Now respected Japanese leaker Komachi Ensakahas dropped hints about the console’s true power.
In a tweet, he claimed that the GPU (graphics processing unit) will be clocked to 2GHz.
The clock-rate is the frequency at which the GPU runs, and a higher speed can often (though not always) mean boosted performance.
According to Komachi, the boosted clock-rate will allow the PS5 to achieve 9.2TF, or teraflops."

www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9754192/ps5-leak-graphics-gpu-teraflops-specs-sony/amp/

Or this one from April 2019, which correctly had the tflops of both anaconda and Lockhart and it also says the PS5 will be weaker than the Xbox.
www.tweaktown.com/news/65642/next-gen-xbox-even-more-powerful-ps5/amp.html

There is other ones as well which show a weaker PS5 GPU.

So there's no real deffinate stats with which to call it just yet.

Ps5 will support 1080p 60 fps it says! Welcome to the ps4.5
 

FranXico

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Hold up the fanboy is calling out someone else of being a fanboy? The irony 😂

Everyone on the fourm, Twitter etc knows you are a fanboy so pipe down with the name calling, especially using that word. The hypocrisy is too much.
There's worst ones, though. I just ignored one of those and the post count went down massively. This generation failed to teach them some humillity, unfortunately. They are more spiteful and ravenous than ever before. It's only going to get worse until there are official specs.
 
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bitbydeath

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There's worst ones, though. I just ignored one of those and the post count went down massively. This generation failed to teach them some humillity, unfortunately. They are more spiteful and ravenous than ever before. It's only going to get worse until there are official specs.

It’s a shame people can’t just be happy that both will be 12+TF. It’s gonna be a good gen.
 

ANIMAL1975

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ya damn tax. the console will end up costing about 800-900 here in sweden if its 600.
Come visit us next year and buy in Portugal, if the thing is 600 dollars it will be 600 euros in here (of course we always fu****ed cause our minimal wage is almost the same), then hide it from customs at airport.
I have been unemployed/student for last 10 years with only few months of work/year or not even that.

So most years my income is 600-900€/month, of which after rent+food I'm kind of broke. Lets say under 10000€/year income with 8500-9000€ into bills+food.

And I have been able to save for ps5, as I started it few years after ps4 release.

So if poor bastard like me can do it, anybody(western) can do it.

Trick is to not to waste money on alcohol and other shit. Just few hobbies and games

600$ would turn into 650-700€, which is maybe 700-800$

So kind of too much for many, 500-550€ would be more acceptable for those that arent HC gamers
You lost me on that 'don't waste it on alcohol and shit' shit. What's wrong with you man!!!?

I have seen credible leaks where Sony's GPU is putting out less than 12tflops

"Now respected Japanese leaker Komachi Ensakahas dropped hints about the console’s true power.
In a tweet, he claimed that the GPU (graphics processing unit) will be clocked to 2GHz.
The clock-rate is the frequency at which the GPU runs, and a higher speed can often (though not always) mean boosted performance.
According to Komachi, the boosted clock-rate will allow the PS5 to achieve 9.2TF, or teraflops."

www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9754192/ps5-leak-graphics-gpu-teraflops-specs-sony/amp/

Or this one from April 2019, which correctly had the tflops of both anaconda and Lockhart and it also says the PS5 will be weaker than the Xbox.
www.tweaktown.com/news/65642/next-gen-xbox-even-more-powerful-ps5/amp.html

There is other ones as well which show a weaker PS5 GPU.

So there's no real deffinate stats with which to call it just yet.
That some old hass leaks, don't know if you have read the all thread but... we all have been there, done that. And that tweaktown article...
...The purported Next Xbox X will trounce even the beefy specs inside of the PlayStation 5
... that's serious fanboysm , wet dreams shit going on.
 
Come visit us next year and buy in Portugal, if the thing is 600 dollars it will be 600 euros in here (of course we always fu****ed cause our minimal wage is almost the same), then hide it from customs at airport.

You lost me on that 'don't waste it on alcohol and shit' shit. What's wrong with you man!!!?


That some old hass leaks, don't know if you have read the all thread but... we all have been there, done that. And that tweaktown article...

... that's serious fanboysm , wet dreams shit going on.
Sure, the point is that there has been specs put out for PS5 from 8tflops to 14tflops (RDNA flops and not GCN) and yet people grab onto a leak from an unknown forum poster and run with it.
Who knows which GPU will have more flops, whatever the number I cant see where it will make much difference.
Kinda like the PS3 vs 360 days where Sony would tout their cell as the reason their console was more powerful, while MS would use their GPU and unified architecture as the reason theirs was stronger.
 
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Neofire

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Come visit us next year and buy in Portugal, if the thing is 600 dollars it will be 600 euros in here (of course we always fu****ed cause our minimal wage is almost the same), then hide it from customs at airport.

You lost me on that 'don't waste it on alcohol and shit' shit. What's wrong with you man!!!?


That some old hass leaks, don't know if you have read the all thread but... we all have been there, done that. And that tweaktown article...

... that's serious fanboysm , wet dreams shit going on.
Yeah people still think that Microsoft will have a 3+TF advantage over Sony with no reasonable explanation but "MS has more money". Which in no instance, since MS has entered the console space, have they released an Xbox in the same time frame with specs that "Trounces" Sony's Playstation.
 

Zato

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Well im not making imaginary shit up, i want Xbox to have power crown and alot of xbox fans wanted that after what happened in 2013. If Sony matches what xbox has tho, its a win for lockhart. I think pricetag will be indicative of specs. The ability to go 2 sku approach insured them to go after a 2080ti gpu spec or close to it.

Bless you and your insanity, imagine being so sad as having part of your online handle that is your console of choice.

Take a break, go outside and work on getting your dick wet ........ Losing your virginity will give a better perspective on this stuff. It's a fancy toy.
 
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Hello everyone, my first message in NeoGAF.

I follow this forum since the time of CBOAT and I have finally decided to register. The first thing I would like is to apologize for my level of English.

I think at this point we all know the specifications of PS5 and Xbox. Can there be surprises? Of course, but really the important thing is already known to everyone. I don't know Tommy but I'm sure his data is real. Same GPU (same number of CU, 52) and CPU in the two consoles, with differences in the clocks.

The important differences will be in memory and SSD.
I know that for some people it can be hard to assume that Sony is going to beat MS again, by a little, but everything points in that direction once again.

You have to accept an idea: Sony for 25 years have been number one. Against, SEGA, against Nintendo, and against MS. And it has not been by chance, nobody is the leader for so many years by chance.

They were wrong with PS3, but they showed that they also know how to correct their mistakes.

I do not take seriously the opinion of PR or media that for a long time defended the idea that Xbox One had a hidden dGPU, the power of the cloud or the secret sauce.

Sorry for my English (I'm from Spain).
 

Mass Shift

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It’s a shame people can’t just be happy that both will be 12+TF. It’s gonna be a good gen.

It will, but I think we'll have to endure a bit more stupidity even post launch as the fanboy focus will then turn to bean counting. As if MS and Sony actually needed help counting their money. They have whole depts dedicated to such tasks.

I'm thoroughly convinced they can't enjoy gaming without focusing negatively any and all aspects of console gaming.
 

EviLore

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Hello everyone, my first message in NeoGAF.

I follow this forum since the time of CBOAT and I have finally decided to register. The first thing I would like is to apologize for my level of English.

I think at this point we all know the specifications of PS5 and Xbox. Can there be surprises? Of course, but really the important thing is already known to everyone. I don't know Tommy but I'm sure his data is real. Same GPU (same number of CU, 52) and CPU in the two consoles, with differences in the clocks.

The important differences will be in memory and SSD.
I know that for some people it can be hard to assume that Sony is going to beat MS again, by a little, but everything points in that direction once again.

You have to accept an idea: Sony for 25 years have been number one. Against, SEGA, against Nintendo, and against MS. And it has not been by chance, nobody is the leader for so many years by chance.

They were wrong with PS3, but they showed that they also know how to correct their mistakes.

I do not take seriously the opinion of PR or media that for a long time defended the idea that Xbox One had a hidden dGPU, the power of the cloud or the secret sauce.

Sorry for my English (I'm from Spain).

Welcome to NeoGAF, happy to have a long-time reader join up and start posting. Your English is very good, don't sweat it.
 

onQ123

Member
What makes you think its going to be run of the mill .. ms has already confirmed its being used as virtual ram through its custom implementation ..so not “run of the mill” sorry.

You read my comment enough to get to the run of the mill SSD part but ignored everything that I said SMH.

The SSD will be a normal off the shelf NVMe drive with about 2GB/s bandwidth but it's not going to be the same as just putting a SSD drive in your PC or console because the console & software is being designed around having this SSD drive. I even mentioned that it would be virtual RAM in my post , hell I said this before they even said it.
 

Gamernyc78

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There's worst ones, though. I just ignored one of those and the post count went down massively. This generation failed to teach them some humillity, unfortunately. They are more spiteful and ravenous than ever before. It's only going to get worse until there are official specs.

I love the ignore feature. I have about ten fanboy warriors ignored with a perpetually expanding count 😂.
 

ANIMAL1975

Member
Sure, the point is that there has been specs put out for PS5 from 8tflops to 14tflops (RDNA flops and not GCN) and yet people grab onto a leak from an unknown forum poster and run with it.
Who knows which GPU will have more flops, whatever the number I cant see where it will make much difference.
Kinda like the PS3 vs 360 days where Sony would tout their cell as the reason their console was more powerful, while MS would use their GPU and unified architecture as the reason theirs was stronger.
Yeah people still think that Microsoft will have a 3+TF advantage over Sony with no reasonable explanation but "MS has more money". Which in no instance, since MS has entered the console space, have they released an Xbox in the same time frame with specs that "Trounces" Sony's Playstation.
There were several leaks in the 12, 13, 14tf territory, and only one (the Gonzalo shit by komashi) began the 8tf shit show that we been having for several months. It was the right ammunition, at the right time, for the fanboys fight the 13/14 tf PS5 rumors. Then became the gospel for the 'worried that we were over our heads' and were going to be desapointed, and finally infecting the more cautious in specs.
Hell, i admit that even i started to doubt at some point,... but if people listened (lol read) what many in here with great knowledge, have said and explained all this time to counter the 8/9tf theories, everyone would know by now that something didn't quite compute. Just an example from a layman perspective: Sony doubled the CU count from ps4 to pro, a mid gen refresh, (that everyone still calling a half harsed upgrade by the way) from 18 to 40, and bumped the clock a little to 0,911 and now, for new generation machine, with hardware RT, maintains the same number of computer units as the mid gen, 3 years ago refresh, doubles the clock speed and calls it a day, voila, job done... Hmmm
 

Gamernyc78

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Hello everyone, my first message in NeoGAF.

I follow this forum since the time of CBOAT and I have finally decided to register. The first thing I would like is to apologize for my level of English.

I think at this point we all know the specifications of PS5 and Xbox. Can there be surprises? Of course, but really the important thing is already known to everyone. I don't know Tommy but I'm sure his data is real. Same GPU (same number of CU, 52) and CPU in the two consoles, with differences in the clocks.

The important differences will be in memory and SSD.
I know that for some people it can be hard to assume that Sony is going to beat MS again, by a little, but everything points in that direction once again.

You have to accept an idea: Sony for 25 years have been number one. Against, SEGA, against Nintendo, and against MS. And it has not been by chance, nobody is the leader for so many years by chance.

They were wrong with PS3, but they showed that they also know how to correct their mistakes.

I do not take seriously the opinion of PR or media that for a long time defended the idea that Xbox One had a hidden dGPU, the power of the cloud or the secret sauce.

Sorry for my English (I'm from Spain).

Welcome!!

English is good, keep improving and yes most of us are in agreement with your take on it. It's like people don't learn their lessons from past generations and what occurred when the same conversations and assumptions were had but disproven.

Sony are good at what they do in the gaming space for the most part, they are very smart and generally make the right moves. Playstation is now their bread and butter and they will continue to aim for the best console at the best price, regardless of what another company says. Their budget for this next generation is padded with the profits of this current generation tht has been beyond good to them.
 
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Climate crisis, lol. That's some bullshit right there.

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I havent been here that long... but its obvious why ms did 2 skus and obvious why ps needs to restrict cost ( or go 2 sku) to transition customers fast. If you read my posts i said ps5 may have more tfs.... but that ms may have more customizations. Im not going to retrospectively change my predictions sorry. Also how come when i challenge everyone noone is willing to predict?
Predict what ? You not changing your prediction doesn’t change the reality that we have more than few independent journalists and devs stating ps5 is stronger and non of the high profile independent journals said anything to counter that. by high profile I mean not fanboys like timdog or dealer or colt East who are basically manchild you tubers or the people who do PR for MS. There is a reason for that cause it’s true . Exact same thing happened at the end of 2012 where devs were saying ps4 is stronger than x1 and sources close to Ms kept denying it till shit hit the fan.
 
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ManaByte

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Bless you and your insanity, imagine being so sad as having part of your online handle that is your console of choice.

Take a break, go outside and work on getting your dick wet ........ Losing your virginity will give a better perspective on this stuff. It's a fancy toy.

I'm pretty sure Tim has kids, but sure go with the easy "internet virgin" insult because you don't like what he says about a fancy toy.
 

Gamernyc78

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Predict what ? You not changing your prediction doesn’t change the reality that we have more than few independent journalists and devs stating ps5 is stronger and non of the high profile journals said anything to counter that. by high profile I mean not fanboys like timdog or dealer or colt East who are basically manchild you tubers. There is a reason for that cause it’s true . Exact same thing happened at the end of 2012 where devs were saying ps4 is stronger than x1 and sources close to Ms kept denying it till shit hit the fan.

But Timdog, Colt Eastwood, Mister Media X, the zealots and Microsoft corporation were vindicated because you know Xbox was most........... (drum roll pls)

Balanced system! 🤔😬
 
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Tulipanzo

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Problem with putting the two threads together is the amount of needless conflict it generates.
Fanboys are going to bring out the worse in people who are just interested in one of the two consoles.

The perfect example was Resetera after the 12TF Tom Warren leak.
- One console is 12TF, plus we get some specs, great!
- Somebody digs a months old Pastebin, which got some of the XBox info right
- That Pastebin also has "Oberon 10.24TF" (which isn't even the right devkit name!), 10.24TF is reposted as certain
- 30 pages arguing that info is false

Confirmed XBox info caused days of arguments about fake PS5 info, rather than the real specs.
 
Problem with putting the two threads together is the amount of needless conflict it generates.
Fanboys are going to bring out the worse in people who are just interested in one of the two consoles.

The perfect example was Resetera after the 12TF Tom Warren leak.
- One console is 12TF, plus we get some specs, great!
- Somebody digs a months old Pastebin, which got some of the XBox info right
- That Pastebin also has "Oberon 10.24TF" (which isn't even the right devkit name!), 10.24TF is reposted as certain
- 30 pages arguing that info is false

Confirmed XBox info caused days of arguments about fake PS5 info, rather than the real specs.
The biggest flaw with that leak was it didn’t even know the ps5 dev kit name which is prospero and not Oberon (Oberon is theAMD apu name of it).which dev will receive a kit from Sony with AMd apu code name written on it instead of Sony dev kit code name in the docs ? 😂
 
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onQ123

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Hello everyone, my first message in NeoGAF.

I follow this forum since the time of CBOAT and I have finally decided to register. The first thing I would like is to apologize for my level of English.

I think at this point we all know the specifications of PS5 and Xbox. Can there be surprises? Of course, but really the important thing is already known to everyone. I don't know Tommy but I'm sure his data is real. Same GPU (same number of CU, 52) and CPU in the two consoles, with differences in the clocks.

The important differences will be in memory and SSD.
I know that for some people it can be hard to assume that Sony is going to beat MS again, by a little, but everything points in that direction once again.

You have to accept an idea: Sony for 25 years have been number one. Against, SEGA, against Nintendo, and against MS. And it has not been by chance, nobody is the leader for so many years by chance.

They were wrong with PS3, but they showed that they also know how to correct their mistakes.

I do not take seriously the opinion of PR or media that for a long time defended the idea that Xbox One had a hidden dGPU, the power of the cloud or the secret sauce.

Sorry for my English (I'm from Spain).

Welcome to the forum , I have one problem with your message though . why don't you believe in the power of the cloud? it's real it's just remote hardware the problem was MS tried to use it as PR to make people think it was going to make Xbox One more powerful than PS4.
 

TBiddy

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Welcome!!

English is good, keep improving and yes most of us are in agreement with your take on it. It's like people don't learn their lessons from past generations and what occurred when the same conversations and assumptions were had but disproven.

It stands to reason, that you think "most of us" are in agreement, if you add people to your ignore list for being "fanboys". Turns Gaf into a decent echo chamber I reckon.
 

StrongGuy

Member
In my opinion, Microsoft played way too safely with the Xbox ONE, Xbox One X and the Series X. They went with DDR3, because it was the surest way to have 8 GB of RAM in their system. They went with UMA GDDR5 in the Xbox One X, because that's what SONY did. Now they're going with UMA GDDR6 in the Series X.

If you really think about it, the Series X is a pretty conservative architecture.
The real question is whether SONY's gamble with HBM will pay off.
 
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THE:MILKMAN

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In my opinion, Microsoft played way too safely with the Xbox ONE, Xbox One X and the Series X. They went with DDR3, because it was the surest way to have 8 GB of RAM in their system. They went with UMA GDDR5 in the Xbox One X, because that's what SONY did. Now they're going with UMA GDDR6 in the Series X.

If you really think about it, the Series X is a pretty conservative architecture.
The real question is whether SONY's gamble with HBM will pay off.

It is far from certain Sony are using HBM. I'm waiting until we get more solid info.
 
Thank you very much everyone for the welcome.

I am not an insider, but I consider myself an observant person and I have always followed closely those people who really did have knowledge, so when Sony announced the 8GB gddr5 they really did not surprise me, because it was a possibility that I had already read here in GAF.

Presentation E3 2019 of the scarlet project, minute 6:37:

“Project Scarlett t most powerful and highest performing console we´ve ever designed”

Minute 2:23:

“Xbox One X the world´s most poweful consolé”



At that time of E3 for me it is already key. Knowing how the PR of all companies measure their words, Spencer was showing me that they sensed that they would not have the most powerful console.

Minute 2:43:

“Our fastest most powerful Xbox”



I think that in these small details they say much more than it seems that it seems.
 

StrongGuy

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Thank you very much everyone for the welcome.

I am not an insider, but I consider myself an observant person and I have always followed closely those people who really did have knowledge, so when Sony announced the 8GB gddr5 they really did not surprise me, because it was a possibility that I had already read here in GAF.

Presentation E3 2019 of the scarlet project, minute 6:37:

“Project Scarlett t most powerful and highest performing console we´ve ever designed”

Minute 2:23:

“Xbox One X the world´s most poweful consolé”

At that time of E3 for me it is already key. Knowing how the PR of all companies measure their words, Spencer was showing me that they sensed that they would not have the most powerful console.

Minute 2:43:

“Our fastest most powerful Xbox”

I think that in these small details they say much more than it seems that it seems.

I think Phil's wording was carefully constructed so that they don't get into any legal issues for outright lying. I still don't think MS or SONY knows what the other is doing.

I also think the Series X architecture is the same as the PS4 and Xbox ONE, so Phil may be thinking that SONY can easily match it.
 
In my opinion, Microsoft played way too safely with the Xbox ONE, Xbox One X and the Series X. They went with DDR3, because it was the surest way to have 8 GB of RAM in their system. They went with UMA GDDR5 in the Xbox One X, because that's what SONY did. Now they're going with UMA GDDR6 in the Series X.

If you really think about it, the Series X is a pretty conservative architecture.
The real question is whether SONY's gamble with HBM will pay off.

Again, it's funny that people have this impression because Sony has been extremely conservative in their approach to console architecture with the PS4. It is not in the same league as PS3 in terms of exotic architectural features; those days are dead. GDDR5 was not necessarily a gamble, just the amount Sony thought they could pack into PS4 was (you can even tell it was a gamble because the 8GB was packed in clamshell mode style; if they planned 8GB at the start then Clamshell Mode would not have been necessary; the bus would have been thicc enough to host eight chips in full 32-bit mode).

I don't know where the HBM talk is coming from but there's almost no chance it will be present. If so, it'll likely be a very small amount (2GB) for OS and background tasks. They aren't going for a split pool towards gaming purposes because that nullifies one of the big advantages of a unified memory architecture. It's also not like HBM has a league of performance over GDDR6; the costs for implementation and scale of the implementation may or may not outweigh what can be done with GDDR6, that's something Sony always considers when designing theirs systems these days.

In terms of memory the only genuine big surprise anyone can expect is persistent memory; its inclusion would outweigh choosing "only" a small pool of HBM over GDDR6, mainly in terms of capacity sizes. A cache of persistent memory around 64-128GB in size operating at ~ 25 GB/s over a DRAM controller would bring significant performance gains for next-gen gaming. Production of scale is already there, future congruence with high-end PC features is already there, the obvious advantages over SSD are already there, the capacity advantage is already there, etc. And at the scales MS and Sony can afford them, the pricing will be advantageous to them, as well.

The only question is, are either of them taking this approach? Is it only one? Because if there's a situation where only one is taking the approach and the other isn't, you're going to see MASSIVE disparities in overall game performance next gen, regardless if other specs match up (which we already know they won't exactly, i.e PS5 with slightly more TFLOPs). But the reality of those advantages are more or less what should be leading people into thinking if Sony (or MS) are doing some radical memory setup next gen, it WON'T involve HBM over GDDR6. It'll be GDDR6 and inclusion of persistent memory (which can also be used as a marketing bulletpoint, i.e can claim "128GB of memory", and they'd technically be correct because persistent memory offers levels of alterability and random access like conventional DRAM).

Let the HBM dream die guys; there's not enough advantage over GDDR6 to justify the price premium, and they could reallocate that price premium towards persistent memory instead (partially), which has obvious advantages over the fastest SSDs married with DRAM performance, in large capacities. That's the route either Sony or MS will go for unique memory setup next-gen.
 

44alltheway

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Thank you very much everyone for the welcome.

I am not an insider, but I consider myself an observant person and I have always followed closely those people who really did have knowledge, so when Sony announced the 8GB gddr5 they really did not surprise me, because it was a possibility that I had already read here in GAF.

Presentation E3 2019 of the scarlet project, minute 6:37:

“Project Scarlett t most powerful and highest performing console we´ve ever designed”

Minute 2:23:

“Xbox One X the world´s most poweful consolé”



At that time of E3 for me it is already key. Knowing how the PR of all companies measure their words, Spencer was showing me that they sensed that they would not have the most powerful console.

Minute 2:43:

“Our fastest most powerful Xbox”



I think that in these small details they say much more than it seems that it seems.

you just attacked timdog's livelihood
 
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Welcome to the forum , I have one problem with your message though . why don't you believe in the power of the cloud? it's real it's just remote hardware the problem was MS tried to use it as PR to make people think it was going to make Xbox One more powerful than PS4.
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You are right, I agree. I explainned wrong sorry 😂

The power of the cloud is real, but the PRs tried to link it to Xbox One, to imply that One could be more powerful than PS4.
 
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MaulerX

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has anyone seen this yet?



In case this wasn't already discussed, he posted that on the RDX podcast chat when they were talking about the Xbox Series X I/O speeds. This was talking about the Series X, not the PS5. Him mentioning the PS5 was to give an example of Sony having already demoed the benefits of their SSD solution. It's crazy that without proper context everyone latched on to this as if he was talking just about the PS5. SMH.
 
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onQ123

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In case this wasn't already discussed, he posted that on the RDX podcast chat when they were talking about the Xbox Series X I/O speeds. This was talking about the Series X, not the PS5. Him mentioning the PS5 was to give an example of Sony having already demoed the benefits of their SSD solution. It's crazy that without proper context everyone latched on to this as if he was talking just about the PS5. SMH.

He was talking about Xbox SX when he said it could be better than PC but he flat out said that what Sony showed is better than what we have seen on PC.
 

Imtjnotu

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In case this wasn't already discussed, he posted that on the RDX podcast chat when they were talking about the Xbox Series X I/O speeds. This was talking about the Series X, not the PS5. Him mentioning the PS5 was to give an example of Sony having already demoed the benefits of their SSD solution. It's crazy that without proper context everyone latched on to this as if he was talking just about the PS5. SMH.
Than forgive me and my mistake
 

CyberPanda

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rsouzadk

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Well … shit. I wasn't aware of this. My older brother (who up until recently used to be a PC geek) informed me about this.


So, basically, the more games you install, the slower your SSD gets.

SSDs use some of its nand storage as cache, as today, with tlc and qlc nand, so yes, as you fill it with enough data the cache will decrease till there is no more. But, we know nothing about what ssd solution sony/ms will use, so i would not consider this on consoles, yet.
 
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