Psykodad
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No, that's just you saying that Sony is saying people are stupid if they buy a PS4 now.PS5 is backward compatible, so with this Sony is saying you are stupid if you buy a PS4 now
No, that's just you saying that Sony is saying people are stupid if they buy a PS4 now.PS5 is backward compatible, so with this Sony is saying you are stupid if you buy a PS4 now
If anything it's Sony telling me to sell my Pro while it's still worth something because in 10 or so months it will be a total redundancy.No, that's just you saying that Sony is saying people are stupid if they buy a PS4 now.
Because those 7 years worth of games won't be playable anymore on your newly bought PS4 because the industry moves onto next-gen?If anything it's Sony telling me to sell my Pro while it's still worth something because in 10 or so months it will be a total redundancy.
No, because the PlayStation 5 renders it redundant by being fully backward compatible with it.Because those 7 years worth of games won't be playable anymore on your newly bought PS4 because the industry moves onto next-gen?
PS5 is backward compatible, so with this Sony is saying you are stupid if you buy a PS4 now
No, because the PlayStation 5 renders it redundant by being fully backward compatible with it.
Sounds like a good plan. It's good you finally see the light and are buying the correct system!If anything it's Sony telling me to sell my Pro while it's still worth something because in 10 or so months it will be a total redundancy.
I'm buying both regardless.Sounds like a good plan. It's good you finally see the light and are buying the correct system!
Another reason to buy PS5, alongside it's exclusives.No, because the PlayStation 5 renders it redundant by being fully backward compatible with it.
I was worried you'd only get a XSX and have to wait at least another year to see what next-gen actually looked like.I'm buying both regardless.
so Sony investing BC is now an insult to their customers? This is hilarious mental gymnastics wise for sure .PS5 is backward compatible, so with this Sony is saying you are stupid if you buy a PS4 now
HahahaI was worried you'd only get a XSX and have to wait at least another year to see what next-gen actually looked like.
And I'm happy for the people who just bought PS4's, they have an incredible 6 year library to pick from. We'll see when they'll reveal big first party PS5 games, I still think that exclusively moving forward to the new console is the way to go. Sony would make a shitty move if they delayed current games like TLoU2 and Ghost of Tsushima to make them PS5 only titles, but if they're made from scratch with PS5 in mind we should be able to see the difference.that is a stupid post. Only last year they have sold over 14 million consoles to new clients
the more 100 million of PS4 on the market didn’t sell on 2013
if the games are truly next gen, ok, but if Sony is gimping titles that could run on PS4 to sell more PS5 is unacceptable
Games are scalable to a point. You can up the resolution, textures, and other non cpu intensive graphical effects. But if you are designing a game around say a Ryzen cpu, using it for better AI, physics, massive increase in draw calls. That isn't easily scalable. When you are going from Jaguar to Ryzen, there is massive increase in CPU performance. Any game designed for for the Ryzen cores would have to be redesigned for Jaguar cores, which would result in massive differences in gameplay (less enemies on screen, simpler physics, braindead AI, less complex backgrounds, and anything else CPU bound).
I thought 8x the X1 and 2x the X1X was impressive.I don't even know why I enter these threads as it's filled with the same cancer. I love that you tried some sort of gotcha moment by including MS.
You're being sold a different console that has minimal improvements so you can play the games that they lock to that system. But apparently you see that as a positive so I'll let you be.
I'm the blind one, but you're the one that thinks everyone who disagrees with you is an xbox fanboy. Sure. Miss me with this console warring bullshit.You are so blind to your brand that you'd rather downplay their accomplishments than admit their strategy is bad.
Apparently saying "SeX is pretty good, and a major improvement over current gen" is warring?I'm the blind one, but you're the one that thinks everyone who disagrees with you is an xbox fanboy. Sure. Miss me with this console warring bullshit.
If only Sony had someone like you to help them be successful in the game industry.100 million customers
If only Sony had someone like you to help them be successful in the game industry.
I actually never bothered to count!I like what I hear and will get the PS5 about 6 months after launch unless they ship a broken brick. It will be my 7th Sony system. That said, I only had a PSX emulator. So the 6,5th?
Yes, I have a modded to hell Vita.
If you wanted multiple new things, you wouldn't be buying a XSX at launch.That's a new one, what else have you got?
If you wanted multiple new things, you wouldn't be buying a XSX at launch.
I dunno, I tried.
But take Resistance 2 out of it hahaha, unless it comes with the online.Resistance Collection at launch.... Just doooooooooo it
Watched this a bit ago, found it interesting. I know MBG is a Sony guy (former Xbox guy), but he covers some input from DF (John Linneman) that I hadn't seen before.
Don't worry. Scaling is easy.If they enforce this on 3rd parties as well then the implications will not just be for Xbox games, it will be for all next gen games. That's the biggest issue here IMO.
The fact that they're only talking about this being for the launch year tells us that this isn't even something they're actually doing. They just don't have any next-gen software ready yet and they're dressing up the bad news now so it doesn't seem as bad against Sony's lineup of actual next-gen games on top of cross-gens.If they enforce this on 3rd parties as well then the implications will not just be for Xbox games, it will be for all next gen games. That's the biggest issue here IMO.
Is the Second not good? I've only finished the 1st and to complete the other 2But take Resistance 2 out of it hahaha, unless it comes with the online.
The fact that they're only talking about this being for the launch year tells us that this isn't even something they're actually doing. They just don't have any next-gen software ready yet and they're dressing up the bad news now so it doesn't seem as bad against Sony's lineup of actual next-gen games on top of cross-gens.
Watched this a bit ago, found it interesting. I know MBG is a Sony guy (former Xbox guy), but he covers some input from DF (John Linneman) that I hadn't seen before.
One thing I haven’t seen questioned is why people just seem to assume the PS5 exclusives in the first year were actually built ground up for PS5. Isn’t it more than likely that some or all were originally planned for PS4 or cross gen, but then Sony decided they would be made next gen exclusives at a later date, to push people towards upgrading sooner?
If they enforce this on 3rd parties as well then the implications will not just be for Xbox games, it will be for all next gen games. That's the biggest issue here IMO.
I hadn't thought of that.
I'm an xbox consumer and I'm pretty happy they're doing this, since I'm kinda short on money. I'll buy the Series X when it drops price a bit, since outside the US consoles are really expensive.Damn.....there will be 46million angry xbox fans in 2021. Why isn't MS thinking of the consumers???
The truth.If anything it's Sony telling me to sell my Pro while it's still worth something because in 10 or so months it will be a total redundancy.
When I heard that other XB system was still being made, the 4TFLOP one, thats what made me realize XB Series X is simply their XBONE X version, simply them releasing BOTH day 1. Developers making games on the least common means 4TFLOPS will be their base, just like XONE was the base this gen and not XBONE X.
This might mean that the PS5 though being less then the Series X, is more then their actual base system as all titles are being made on PS5 to max PS5's specs, thats not sounding like the case for XB Series X if its indeed the "Pro" version of their series.
XBONE X and PS4 Pro didn't have games being made 100% ONLY for them to even care about that extra power if it was simply being used to scale something up. So I'm semi worried.
IF (and it's a big "if") this happens to be true, then it isn't crazy to think that, since Microsoft is supposedly doing the same thing, games would target the lowest end and then upscale on the more powerful models. In fact, that's the beauty of the x86 architecture: it's mature enough that allows devs to scale games up or down, based on the specs.Writing for IGN, journalist Zenj Nishikawa reports that Sony is firing with both barrels when it comes to next year's PlayStation launch.
Nishikawa was reportedly told at developer conference CEDEC that "Sony executives are launching two PlayStation models that are different in their performance."
I'm an xbox consumer and I'm pretty happy they're doing this, since I'm kinda short on money. I'll buy the Series X when it drops price a bit, since outside the US consoles are really expensive.
I really don't understand you, guys: are you really that die-hard fans of a company that you're willing to allow anti-consumer practices for the sake of exclusives? I mean... don't you even care about your consumer rights and what's best for you, and NOT for the multinational company?
Youre delusional if you think ANY corporate business entity is pro consumer...some of you guys need to stop this nonsense.I'm an xbox consumer and I'm pretty happy they're doing this, since I'm kinda short on money. I'll buy the Series X when it drops price a bit, since outside the US consoles are really expensive.
I really don't understand you, guys: are you really that die-hard fans of a company that you're willing to allow anti-consumer practices for the sake of exclusives? I mean... don't you even care about your consumer rights and what's best for you, and NOT for the multinational company?
Actually, that was the point I was trying to make.Youre delusional if you think ANY corporate business entity is pro consumer...some of you guys need to stop this nonsense.
You mean the only reason why consoles even exist in the first place? Trash invalid opinion.Nice to know sony still get a boner from exclusives. Trash company.
It is the weakest of the franchise. They tried to streamline it to go toe on toe with some trends of other shooters from its time. Notable examples are: They removed the life packs you had to get during the stages to use an auto-healing recovery system; They removed the weapon wheel to carry only 2 guns at a time system; The single-player story campaign had now an option of online co-op up to 8 players (it was the most ambitious thing the game had under its name, but they got rid of the couch co-op mode); The multiplayer was up to 60 players, but it felt a downgrade from the first with its game modes. It was fun, but it was pure chaos; Oh, and they killed the main protagonist, which generally it is not a good thing (look at what Assassin's Creed franchise turned out to be, but Ubisoft did that so they could milk the franchise and no one would complain about the main story going nowhere).Is the Second not good? I've only finished the 1st and to complete the other 2
It is scalable, it's the same 30yo x86 architecture/instructions, Zen won't be able to do anything Jaguar can't, it will just calculate things longer, much longer, and as a result what will "scale down" will be the framerate. Late PS360 games run literally at 24-26FPS, 28 tops, literally, and that didn't make any of the people who were late to the party or those simply not wanting to spend money on new consoles to all of a sudden jump onto new generation. So what are the odds of the history not repeating itself? I mean base XB1 running games at sub-30FPS? UC4 even used 15FPS animations for the crowds to save up precious processing time, I don't see a single reason why the current-gen console can't start widely using such trick. Or cutting some animations completely, like grass/trees waving on the wind vs being completely static.
If Xbox really is doing what you are claiming, they would be promising Xbox One support for the lifetime of Scarlet.I'm an xbox consumer and I'm pretty happy they're doing this, since I'm kinda short on money. I'll buy the Series X when it drops price a bit, since outside the US consoles are really expensive.
I really don't understand you, guys: are you really that die-hard fans of a company that you're willing to allow anti-consumer practices for the sake of exclusives? I mean... don't you even care about your consumer rights and what's best for you, and NOT for the multinational company?
And it's not like any of them are bad games, but it's reaching the point of "really guys?"...