SgtCaffran
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To each their own man. Live and let live.
Both places have circlejerks, both have console wars. Both have positive sides as well.
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Both places have circlejerks, both have console wars. Both have positive sides as well.
Rossco EZ
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Nickolaidas
Member
Surprisingly, I do.
I don't know how to describe it, but Osiris strikes me as the dad who cockteases his 10 year old children with riddles and innuendos until he shows them a nicely ribbon wrapped PlayStation as a Christmas present (making them lose their shit and praise him from dusk till dawn), while Tommy Fisher strikes me as a legitimate fraud and an attention whore who says things just so that people can notice him.
Call it a 40-year-old bachelor's intuition.
If I'm wrong, I guarantee you I'll be in the pitchfork wielding crowd, first fucking row.
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
There’s only one thing that sticks in my side, and it’s a big one... all the other stuff is personal and subjective and can’t be proven one way or another because it depends on the user...
And that thing is which console is better, spec wise. But the reason I say that, is because while a lot (not all) of people have said the PS5 is better (some by huge margins, some by tiny), nobody says that the PS5 is more expensive.
So this bothers me, because of the Xbox is worse spec wise all round AND more expensive, we will have another Xbox one/PS4 blood bath, and that makes no sense, at all... so how could it possibly be more expensive, in some cases I’ve seen it be £100 more...? That makes no sense.
The only other thing that even remotely rustles my jimmies is the form factor. MS have a powerful console and their design shows that. It’s already been confirmed it will be as quiet and as cool as an Xbox one x. That’s amazing. But if Sony have a better spec machine, how can it be smaller, as some people tell? What are they doing?
All the other stuff makes no difference to me. I’ll be getting both on launch, that’s fine. But these things are puzzling me no end, and I can’t quite figure out where I stand on them all.
And that thing is which console is better, spec wise. But the reason I say that, is because while a lot (not all) of people have said the PS5 is better (some by huge margins, some by tiny), nobody says that the PS5 is more expensive.
So this bothers me, because of the Xbox is worse spec wise all round AND more expensive, we will have another Xbox one/PS4 blood bath, and that makes no sense, at all... so how could it possibly be more expensive, in some cases I’ve seen it be £100 more...? That makes no sense.
The only other thing that even remotely rustles my jimmies is the form factor. MS have a powerful console and their design shows that. It’s already been confirmed it will be as quiet and as cool as an Xbox one x. That’s amazing. But if Sony have a better spec machine, how can it be smaller, as some people tell? What are they doing?
All the other stuff makes no difference to me. I’ll be getting both on launch, that’s fine. But these things are puzzling me no end, and I can’t quite figure out where I stand on them all.
SgtCaffran
Member
He indicated the actual Xbox Series X console is out. Just before Phil tweeted he has the console at home. He also hinted at a new Ghost of Tsushima trailer being shown.
Fake
Member
Because what he say don't suit what they want.
Kusarigama
Member
How about the good real insiders provide us a date on which a significant announcement will be made but not say what the announcement is. Just give a date. Please.
David Ricardo
Member
I want the truth, and what he says doesn't suit that.
MegatronActivate
Neo Member
A new godfall gameplay trailer leaked, if anyone's interested.
xool
Member
Interesting.
But who's going to make the game? Any ideas (I dunno) .. I don't think konami has teams for AAA anymore
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Only one of the two sanctions doxxing on developers and others, and bans for “wrong think”, comrade.
I won’t let that “live and let live”, but moving along since we have a thread for that.
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saintjules
Member
Yeah, it was already posted here this morning. There's a 1080p version. Supposedly it's a build from early 2019.
Tenka Musou
Banned
I would love for PS5 to be better specs wise, as it's already my choice for next gen.
Doesn't mean I have buy whatever that guy's peddling, I have come across a lot of fraud insiders in my time, that guy fits the profile.
Let's see him predict a certain reveal and predict the exact day we see this reveal, that's the ultimate insider test. Otherwise I too can harp about some trailer / announcement that can happen anywhere from 2020 to 2070, if ever, and call myself an insider
toxiichollow
Member
Not saying i don't believe Osiris, but you gotta wonder how does he know all this stuff? From MS launch lineup, PS5 specs, xbox one X specs, ms studio acquisitions... ect aren't his sources just devs.
ethomaz
Banned
But you will know the truth sooner than later.
So it is nothing you need to bother unless it doesn't fit your agenda.
He detailed describe a game that will be easy to know it is true or not when the games started to be revealed.
And if what he says is the truth?
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Chromata
Member
That all does sound strange, I see your point. I still don't think it discounts all the things he said, it just shows that not all the information he's receiving is on point (which is to be expected from insider information).
The 1080ti comment especially sounds really off though, I must have missed that one.
Imtjnotu
Member
he said he has two friends who are developers
MegatronActivate
Neo Member
Theres the full trailer up . wasn't the one this morning just a few seconds.
Tenka Musou
Banned
This also one of the hallmarks of a fake insider, knows many confidential things across different companies, he also have a top secret trailer for a next gen game that he can watch and dissect.
ethomaz
Banned
How every insider get their info... from somebody that works on the industry and probably has both devkits.
Imtjnotu
Member
he has had accurate leaks in the past tho
ethomaz
Banned
I was thinking yesterday why the "insiders" have different TFs for either Xbox One Series X and PS5.
And I reached the follow guess....
MS and Sony probably shipped devkits with different clocks to developers, so it is totally possible one developer having the Xbox stronger than PS5 and another having PS5 stronger than Xbox... the same can say about the same power or close enough to say the same.
Why that? I can think in a lot of reasons:
- To track leaks... that way MS and Sony knows from which developer machine the info come.
- To try to despite the power of the console to the competition... so Sony and MS knows +- what their competition machine will be but not the final clock / power.
What do you guys thinks?
And I reached the follow guess....
MS and Sony probably shipped devkits with different clocks to developers, so it is totally possible one developer having the Xbox stronger than PS5 and another having PS5 stronger than Xbox... the same can say about the same power or close enough to say the same.
Why that? I can think in a lot of reasons:
- To track leaks... that way MS and Sony knows from which developer machine the info come.
- To try to despite the power of the console to the competition... so Sony and MS knows +- what their competition machine will be but not the final clock / power.
What do you guys thinks?
splattered
Member
I've said many times (maybe not in here) that I wonder if MS's The Initiative studio name gives away what they will be... they take cherished but maybe dormant IP's from other companies and create a new entry in the series. We're being told today maybe something like Castlevania. The Initiative just took the initiative and partnered with Konami to make a new Castlevania. Could be cool if that's the case... if the studio works out well and makes great games imagine what all we could see from them in the future.
Gediminas
Banned
where?
MegatronActivate
Neo Member
Full gameplay trailer not sure if this was posted
SgtCaffran
Member
Tenka Musou
Please stop this crusade, it only detracts from this thread. If you have any evidence against his rumors and claims then present it. If you don't want to believe his info, then just ignore him. No sense stating your opinion on it over and over.
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
The lineup’s too diverse.Now what if its phil bringing xbox titles to playstation
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MegatronActivate
Neo Member
I saw it on youtube but not sure of its origins its the extended gameplay.
2 developers who seem to know who Microsoft is acquiring. How comes these developers are so in the know with Microsoft's business purchases. Does that not come across as abit suspicious. If a studio or an IP had been acquired especially if it was a publicly trading company we would know about it already as they would have to let investors know what's happening due to share prices etc. He has already said things that completely contradict what both sony and Microsoft have said. So how does 1 of these developers know microsofts business decisions but not know something publicly known for months about the consoles using hardware ray tracing tech.
DJ12
Member
It's been said a million times just no one wants to listen.
Sony back playstation much more than Microsoft back Xbox.
It doesn't really matter how much more money Microsoft have the Xbox division isn't able to dip into daddies pockets when they need some more pocket money.
There was a bloodbath this time because the Xbox one was weak sauce. If it was more expensive and equal in terms of power all the Xbox fans that switched would likely have stayed and swallowed the loss.
I imagine there are current PS4 owners that cannot wait to go back to Xbox even if it's more expensive as long as it's still in the same ball park in performance.
As for the cooling, Sony has patented cooling from both sides of the chip, I imagine if this is used it will make a massive difference, but I have no idea why you think it's going to be smaller. Aside of a few fan renders there's been nothing about it at all.
For all we know it might be bigger than the Xbox.
Also Sony's cooling knowledge is pretty good, Xbox one X runs a lot hotter than PS4 pro. Xbox one X seems to run at 60~70 degrees c PS4 pro around 35~45. That's quite a difference Sony decided on a low thermal ms on a high one. If both targeted the same I doubt there would be much difference at all.
vpance
Member
If it's deliberate it would be the first I heard that happening, but I guess it could be possible. All the current kits are preliminary anyways. What matters is the final kit due in a few weeks/months.
Also first party might have the better/newer kits which wouldn't be surprising.
xool
Member
I know, and personally for me, Osiris's leaks have been a big nothing burger so far. But when you're in the industry there's a rumor grapevine (is that the right word) and get to hear about stuff happening outside the company. Plus they will also hear directly from people they used to work with in other areas of the business
So it's not out of the question.
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ethomaz
Banned
Not first... that is how MS tracked Xbox leaks in the past.
DJ12
Member
He's said already, he has two direct Dev sources and probably some old contacts in the retail chain from where he used to work.
ethomaz
Banned
The trailer says it is early 2019 build.
JLMC469
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The takeaway from the tweet should the part where its says "a more detailed look soon" emphasis on SOON
Gudji
Member
So here's what I think:
1) Devs are briefed on target specs when they get devkits or maybe even a bit before so that they can start working on games
2) Target specs might not have specific values, instead they might have ranges. Ex: CPU clocked from 3.2 to 3.6 GHz or 16 to 24 GB GDDR6. There was a guy on era that shared a Xbox 360 target spec and it looked like a mess with all sort of ranges on CPU, GPU, Memory, HDD size and speed, etc. On that target spec some stuff was confirmed/decided, other stuff was still TBD
3) Devkits are updated over time until all dev teams get the final update with final specs, which usually happens like a few months before launch (I'd say something like August or September at most)
4) The SoC for both consoles is ready by now, they're just toying with clocks and stuff like RAM amount until they meet their deadline for production to start
5) Not all developers have the same devkits (first party are always the first to get the most updated stuff)
Matt on era said that at this point devs have a pretty good idea of where things are going to fall.
What I'm thinking is that some devs have more recent info and others have older info, that's why you hear some say 12 TF while others say something different.
We've been hearing PS5 > XSX from multiple people, some with connections to playstation, some without.
We've also been hearing XSX > PS5 from guys that are Xbox "insiders" or journalists.
Personally I'm thinking the XSX might have a better GPU and CPU while PS5 will have a better SSD and memory but, the difference that some people are wishing for (9 TF vs 12 or 13 TF) is not happening.
I'm going to make a prediction on GPU performance and say that the PS5 is going to be around 11.x TF while the XSX is at 12.1 TF.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
If it’s a year old, then of course.
DJ12
Member
I asked if it's the 5th, 13th or 20th lol don't think they will answer
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Putting aside spec difference, you’re out of your mind if you think the pro is built in ANY way better than the X. Come on, pick a side of you must, but that’s crazy talk. Cooling wise the X beats the pro hands down, without even a contest.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I can get behind most of what you are thinking.
Though I am kind of an oddball since I am by far a Sony fan first and foremost but still have a pretty good idea that the XSX will be more powerful.
I think
Shin
Banned
02/05/ 25 / 25 years PlayStation anniversary
It's happening.gif and all that shit...maybe
splattered
Member
Hmm you're right, someone should probably tell them Sony skipped E3 so they can revise their statement to "a more detailed look later this year"
Okami Haundo
Member
There's a zero percent chance that Microsoft comes in $100 more expensive with a box that's on-par with or slightly below PS5.
In that scenario, they'd be under intense pressure to fold if Sony could undercut them by that much.
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