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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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Sycomunkee said:
Couple that up with a few high profile eastern developers and Microsoft is 10000% more popular in those countries.
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So that'd put them at about 50% Sony and 20% Nintendo then? ;)

Just kidding, but gotta say, this fuels some fire to the rumor Lockhart might be a portable/hybrid (and maybe them picking up a SEGA, Capcom or Konami). Big bulky consoles just aren't that popular anymore in places like Korea and Japan.
 
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Reindeer

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gamechanger87 said:
Remedy is not making AAA games with its current staffing and expense level. More AA. Love Remedy's games but they don't have the budget to make AAA games. $17M in salaries does not allow that type of staffing. If you want 10 AAA games you need to staff to those levels which means an even higher purchase price and investment.

Also, each of those is a risk on if they can actually sell that many games. Remedy does not have any massive homeruns under its belt from a sales perspective (not critically) so are you willing to pay 10x revenue for them?
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Do tell me what differentiates Control from AAA games?
 
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Thedtrain

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DeepEnigma said:
You do realize that photo of the hallway is an actual photo of the office?
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Taken from the other place...think it's in engine. We're getting into a weird area now with graphics where I can't tell sometimes

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Dabaus

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gamechanger87 said:
Remedy is publicly traded. All of its financials are available online. It why they and CDPR are unlikely to ever be acquired. Valuation is too high.

Note that the below is in EUR and you need to add in the required premium for public investors to approve the sale via proxy.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/REM...bx7hk4_NxdLU6BDddcY-AxDXNn1LaAhhfUjrV3jl7_84j
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Thank you. Yeah id say 200 million seems steep for them. Theyre not really bringing anything to the table in terms of already owned IP. If an Allen wake remaster and potential sequel could sell like 5 million then maybe theyd be worth it if they could reliably crank out 80-90 tier metacritic games.
 
Handy Fake

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Just a ponderment while working - if Sony were to branch out software-wise into the PC market, could they use the increased income to offset a pricing cut on a console that was competitive in power to a high end PC?
Like photocopier companies making their money off toner refills.
 
Coulomb_Barrier

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Reindeer said:
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Always find it funny how these arguments turn into my console sells better than yours.

Xbox One has been selling terribly for a long time now and you think only now Microsoft decided to do something about it? Or maybe the case is that Microsoft is actually preparing for a new console launch and trying to get people excited about it and it's ecosystem as a whole.
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It's 10 months away, it's utterly bizarre to start hyping a product that's 10 months away when you have multiple other products (XB1, XB1S, XBSAD and XB1X) all on the market. So the only reason they must be doing it is because sales are flat lining. That's the only reason I mentioned sales sonny.

MS are the ones that started this weird announcing of products about a year early. It's unprecedented really. But as usual we have the Xbox defence force justifying it and trying to put heat the other way 😆

Same way we're now being told no exclusives on a new gen is actually good for us, as exclusives are anti-consumer...
 
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Reindeer said:
Do tell me what differentiates Control from AAA games?
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AAA does not refer to the quality of the game, but more focuses on the budget and manpower required IMO.

Control is a fantastic game, but they don't have the budget to support a staff to compete with much larger studios making larger games.

Control did not sell well at all. Are you paying 200M in the hopes that their next game sells 5 - 10M? No.

Would I buy them for $50 - $75M. Much more likely.
 
TheStruggler

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Reindeer said:
Sony fans on this thread: PlayStation wins because their logo got tons of views.

Sony fans on this thread: Microsoft is revealing games because they're scared.

Common, at least hide you fanboy views. No need to hate other games because they're not on your precious platform. And this is coming from people that have been saying forever that Microsoft needs to show more games. Fanboys truly will not be happy not matter what.
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They do have to show more and prob thats why rumors of them buying more studios or third party deals, this gen MS has to play catch up when compared to Sony and Nintendo
 
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Those french prices are interesting. I mean my brain tells me it is too early for prices. My brain also tells me it is too early for different color version Playstations at the start, but the mention of 500 and 1TB is very interesting and so are the prices.
Just going by that. 450€ for a 500GB SSD NVME PS5 I could see happening, but that would also mean I am definitely getting the 1TB SSD NVME version for 50€ more.

Definitely an interesting thought from a speculative standpoint and a more conservative leak compard to all the 14,16,18 TF BS crap around, but it feels too early for prices.

inb4 Tuna for 0,13$
 
Reindeer

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gamechanger87 said:
AAA does not refer to the quality of the game, but more focuses on the budget and manpower required IMO.

Control is a fantastic game, but they don't have the budget to support a staff to compete with much larger studios making larger games.

Control did not sell well at all. Are you paying 200M in the hopes that their next game sells 5 - 10M? No.

Would I buy them for $50 - $75M. Much more likely.
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But my question is, what does Control miss compared to AAA games? It has a compelling story, brilliant art style and bleeding edge graphics, good acting and excellent sound design. You don't have to have AAA budget to pull off experience that is AAA, just look at Plague Tales: Innocence.
 
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Gavin Stevens

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Having seen the actual real life location shot of the stairs and comparing it to the shot in the trailer I’m actually on #teamEngine. There’s a few pieces that are missing, a lot that’s scaled slightly off, and surface details are completely different.

of course the fuckers could have just decorated but what fun would that be for discussion 🤣
 
Imtjnotu

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Thedtrain said:
Taken from the other place...think it's in engine. We're getting into a weird area now with graphics where I can't tell sometimes

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The other in engine they had ran at 24fps. This is gorgeous and all but I don't want it if we're just stuck at 30fps again this gen
 
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Imtjnotu said:
The other in engine they had ran at 24fps. This is gorgeous and all but I don't want it if we're just stuck at 30fps again this gen
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That was a trailer though? What makes you think the game will run at 24fps? Who in their right mind would even use 24fps for a game...?

Do join us back on planet earth champ 🤣
 
CJY

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ElleryJamesRoberts said:
Those french prices are interesting. I mean my brain tells me it is too early for prices. My brain also tells me it is too early for different color version Playstations at the start, but the mention of 500 and 1TB is very interesting and so are the prices.
Just going by that. 450€ for a 500GB SSD NVME PS5 I could see happening, but that would also mean I am definitely getting the 1TB SSD NVME version for 50€ more.

Definitely an interesting thought from a speculative standpoint and a more conservative leak compard to all the 14,16,18 TF BS crap around, but it feels too early for prices.

inb4 Tuna for 0,13$
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What I've found over the years is that Sony strike a balance between innovation and copying the competition. When it makes sense, they copy the best ideas of Nintendo/MS, for better or worse. Examples of this are: Move, PSASBR, PS Classic, the list goes on. I don't think there is anything wrong with copying, it works both ways. A good idea is a good idea.

Anyway, I think Sony aren't blind to Nintendo's success this generation, and have probably analysed their success closely.

Part of Switch's success early this gen was discussion of which colour Switch you were going to get. Both the Grey and Neon colours had it's fans, and created a healthy amount of discussion amongst fans and the public. Sony released LE and white models of PlayStation this gen. The White PS4 Pro started out as a LE, but later Sony made it a standard colour. Basically, I can definitely see Sony having different colours at launch.
 
Ellery

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CJY said:
What I've found over the years is that Sony strike a balance between innovation and copying the competition. When it makes sense, they copy the best ideas of Nintendo/MS, for better or worse. Examples of this are: Move, PSASBR, PS Classic, the list goes on. I don't think there is anything wrong with copying, it works both ways. A good idea is a good idea.

Anyway, I think Sony aren't blind to Nintendo's success this generation, and have probably analysed their success closely.

Part of Switch's success early this gen was discussion of which colour Switch you were going to get. Both the Grey and Neon colours had it's fans, and created a healthy amount of discussion amongst fans and the public. Sony released LE and white models of PlayStation this gen. The White PS4 Pro started out as a LE, but later Sony made it a standard colour. Basically, I can definitely see Sony having different colours at launch.
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Ok true. Maybe it was a bit stupid of me to assume Sony would just go with 1 color and that being black for the PS5 at launch.
They could easily do multiple versions
 
CJY

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ElleryJamesRoberts said:
Ok true. Maybe it was a bit stupid of me to assume Sony would just go with 1 color and that being black for the PS5 at launch.
They could easily do multiple versions
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Yeah, they could easily go either way. Nothing stupid. Just for me personally, this generation more than any other, I'd purchase a colour other than black if it was available on launch day.
 
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Insane Metal said:
Just to remember the last leak:



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Someone on ree got so triggered by that pastebin & decided to create a slight duplicate to discredit it:

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PS5 DevKit 2 DVKT-OB000SF-02 Verona - Pastebin.com

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
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fanboy rage:
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# PS5 DevKit 2 DVKT-OB000SF-02 Verona - CPU: x86 8 cores, 16 threads @ 3241m - Pastebin.com

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
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Like we know Pastebin's are supposed to taken with a grain of salt. No need to get upset about it and try to prove an obvious point.
 
Reindeer

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Ninja Theory head said that the game is about one character and one location, which probably means it's a PT style game with maybe locations that change form/shape to mess with the mind of the player (character).
 
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Reindeer

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Nickolaidas said:
The boat seems modern, and unless Sensua has managed to created pulse sensors, I'm pretty sure the blinking device on the lower right removes the possibilities of this being an ancient epic in terms of setting.
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Maybe they're sharing assets with other projects, but that looks a lot like something from Hellblade. The graphics look modern as well.
 
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