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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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johnjohn

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And he said

"makes what I posted much more likely now "

This means he finds out the info he received more believable AFTER hearing the number of the Xbox Series X.

Yes, you're twisting his words and ignoring the fact that he said, ""makes what I posted much more likely now. ""
And still makes his source untrustworthy. What words am I twisting?
 

Zero909

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demigod

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Twist his words lol? He didn't trust the source, so he deleted the info... That's kind of all there is to it. Obviously it would suck if he deleted legit info way before anyone else had it.,

I'm not really sure what you're trying to make out of his tweets? Benji gets some sales info, that's all the insider info he has.

That’s exactly what you’re doing. He got info from his source, INFO. You’re now claiming he never got the info.
 

HawarMiran

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BTW why are we even talking about graphics? I played Ori and the Blind Forest on my PC and loved it. Same for Stardew Valley and that game could be from the 90s. Players enjoy a game for more then fps and resolution. Mount&Blade looks like dogshit from artstyle to animations but it is so fucking fun. So constantly stating how PC is better by some people here gets annoying. It is all about the games games games games games (imagine that in Steve Ballmers voice). So this hypothetical "game X from Playstation could run better on PC" is obsolete. It is like me buying a goddamn Ferrari covering it in Svarovskis. UC4 is already a goddamn sexy game. For some reason only Xbox or Playstation attract those people. I never in my life heard someone say but but but Pokemon would run in 8K with raytraced lensflares all over the screen and 300 quatrillion FPS on my PC
 

Gamernyc78

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Im thinking Sony might actually be waiting for Microsoft to make its reveal before they commit to showing their hand.

That way then can come out looking better if Microsoft fucks up again in some way or if Sony has a weaker box, they can announce they have a better price point or launch lineup by going after.

Just a thought.

This isn't just a thought but their same game plan and reality similar to this gen. They will wait as long as possible to talk about pricing and power or definitely pricing until Microsoft shows their hand so they can come with a "ahhhhhhyuuuuuukennnnnnn" this is also why thy backed out of E3. Expect pricing to be stated after Microsoft talks about pricing at E3.
 
What most peope tend to forget when comparing PC visuals/performance to the one of consoles is that a console almost equals twice the compute power of an equal PC setup. So assuming the new consoles run 12 TF setups then sure, you can achieve similar visuals on PC but you will most likely need a GTX 3000 series GPU then or a dual GPU setup. See some of Carmacks comments on the matter:

 

Reindeer

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What most peope tend to forget when comparing PC visuals/performance to the one of consoles is that a console almost equals twice the compute power of an equal PC setup. So assuming the new consoles run 12 TF setups then sure, you can achieve similar visuals on PC but you will most likely need a GTX 3000 series GPU then or a dual GPU setup. See some of Carmacks comments on the matter:


Carmack said this when consoles had their own custom hardware, but these days they're just slightly modified PCs.
 

DForce

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And still makes his source untrustworthy. What words am I twisting?

You keep saying he doesn't trust info when that changed after the numbers of the Xbox Series X numbers were revealed. You're purposing misconstrued his words when he clearly says he may have deleted a real scoop. There's no way around that, but for some reason, you're trying to ignore that and keep saying he doesn't trust his source.
 

Md Ray

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What most peope tend to forget when comparing PC visuals/performance to the one of consoles is that a console almost equals twice the compute power of an equal PC setup. So assuming the new consoles run 12 TF setups then sure, you can achieve similar visuals on PC but you will most likely need a GTX 3000 series GPU then or a dual GPU setup. See some of Carmacks comments on the matter:


This isn't true anymore.
 

thelastword

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Lisa taking names.....as usual...Love me some Lis..

Well, the simple way to end this is to select a scene from each game, pop them on here, and let people make up their minds:

Uncharted 4:

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Call Of Duty 2019 (PC - unknown settings):

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(I tried to pick some scenes that looks roughly the same: blue skies, fire, some vehicles ... heh)
That fire quality,that smoke quality, that mud and clothing detail. The ATD on the bike, wheel......I shudder at the thought of Naughty with a 13TF console, a fast SSD, lots of ram and a bleeding fast CPU with very fast cores......I shudder.....Remember this is 1.84TF visuals here worked by fairies,,,,
I think Uncharted 4 on PC running at 4K60 would look much better than COD 2019. Where Uncharted definitely wins is attention to detail.
UC4 is one of the best IQ games this gen, it looks that good...…ATD is insane,,,,
 

LordOfChaos

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What most peope tend to forget when comparing PC visuals/performance to the one of consoles is that a console almost equals twice the compute power of an equal PC setup. So assuming the new consoles run 12 TF setups then sure, you can achieve similar visuals on PC but you will most likely need a GTX 3000 series GPU then or a dual GPU setup. See some of Carmacks comments on the matter:




We aught to make a bot for every time this comes up at this point lol. Check the date of the tweet, and then check the release date of DX12 and Vulkan. When he wrote it, there was a literal order of magnitude difference in the speed of draw calls. Now there isn't. He was right then. Then was 9 years ago.
 
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HawarMiran

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I bet the new consoles will use neural networks to achieve things we got with raw power before. I see more and more stuff on youtube about this topic. for example this . So even with 9-10 TF we will see great shit
 

Reindeer

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Lisa taking names.....as usual...Love me some Lis..

That fire quality,that smoke quality, that mud and clothing detail. The ATD on the bike, wheel......I shudder at the thought of Naughty with a 13TF console, a fast SSD, lots of ram and a bleeding fast CPU with very fast cores......I shudder.....Remember this is 1.84TF visuals here worked by fairies,,,,
UC4 is one of the best IQ games this gen, it looks that good...…ATD is insane,,,,
Agreed, the image quality is the best I've seen this gen. Strange enough TLOU2 doesn't have as good image quality in gameplay from what I've seen so far, maybe it's because there's more going in scenes that's stealing the resources.
 
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Ruben43cb

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If nvidia makes better cards why dont consoles ever use them. Not talking about crappy ones in nintendo. Like TF monsters xbox or ps5. The next gen nvidia stuff is going to push 20tf plus
 
edit: why am I bothering?

I saw the previous post before the edit, but can you show your Nvidia control panel while signed into your gaf profile plz? Should be relatively easy to do since you're on the PC. I'm just curious. Whenever I ask people to do these kinds of things, they never can. I want to see if you truly have a 2080 Ti.
 
Carmack said this when consoles had their own custom hardware, but these days they're just slightly modified PCs.
No he says ' focus on single spec'' matters and he is right. You can see the difference in exclusives games of vanilla PS4. You can have some of the top graphics of this gen in a 1.8TF console and crappy jaguar.

Can't wait for them to patch it on PS5.
I hope so.
 
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bitbydeath

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God of War is one of the best looking games I've ever fucking seen. I'd throw that up there next to anything on PC imo.

Yeah, this is the first gen where consoles stayed ahead of PC graphically. It will be interesting next-gen with how things play out with the gap closing a lot more spec wise.

Games are going to look crazy good on both systems.
 

Ruben43cb

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Yeah, this is the first gen where consoles stayed ahead of PC graphically. It will be interesting next-gen with how things play out with the gap closing a lot more spec wise.

Games are going to look crazy good on both systems.

I dunno.... the nvidia cards end 2020 are going to be pretty crazy. I'm no PC enthusiast but they are heavy duty
 

Moses85

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If nvidia makes better cards why dont consoles ever use them. Not talking about crappy ones in nintendo. Like TF monsters xbox or ps5. The next gen nvidia stuff is going to push 20tf plus

To expensive and Nvidia ripped off Sony with their PS3 and Microsoft with the Xbox 1
 

Gavin Stevens

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I saw the previous post before the edit, but can you show your Nvidia control panel while signed into your gaf profile plz? Should be relatively easy to do since you're on the PC. I'm just curious. Whenever I ask people to do these kinds of things, they never can. I want to see if you truly have a 2080 Ti.

Fuck it... Here are the pics. And the control panel? Which bit? I just took pics of anywhere that said 2080ti, lol:

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But this is NOT what this thread is for guys...

EDIT: As I did say previously, my monitor is ancient and I run in 4k res in MW, which is downsampled to 1080p. Hence the resolution of the pics. But you can tell by the stair stepping and what have you that this is a 4k image downsampled.

EDIT 2: Stupid tit, I just thought, you meant this didn't you SenjutsuSage SenjutsuSage


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Soadi

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Hope for last week of February?
 
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thelastword

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Agreed, the image quality is the best I've seen this gen. Strange enough TLOU2 doesn't have as good image quality in gameplay from what I've seen so far, maybe it's because there's more going in scenes that's stealing the resources.
From what I've seen it looks as clean as UC4, but we shall see......They might be pushing PS4 to it's Limits on LOU 2 though....
 
Fuck it... Here are the pics. And the control panel? Which bit? I just took pics of anywhere that said 2080ti, lol:

rlseHIs.jpg


O7LMjbF.jpg


LoXY5SD.jpg


F5rIun3.jpg


But this is NOT what this thread is for guys...

EDIT: As I did say previously, my monitor is ancient and I run in 4k res in MW, which is downsampled to 1080p. Hence the resolution of the pics. But you can tell by the stair stepping and what have you that this is a 4k image downsampled.


I know, but sometimes I like to see whether people actually own what they say they do since a lot of pc bragging takes place often on console forums. This is mine. Easiest way is always forum or twitter profile with the info screen. :D
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Reindeer

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Fuck it... Here are the pics. And the control panel? Which bit? I just took pics of anywhere that said 2080ti, lol:

rlseHIs.jpg


O7LMjbF.jpg


LoXY5SD.jpg


F5rIun3.jpg


But this is NOT what this thread is for guys...

EDIT: As I did say previously, my monitor is ancient and I run in 4k res in MW, which is downsampled to 1080p. Hence the resolution of the pics. But you can tell by the stair stepping and what have you that this is a 4k image downsampled.

EDIT 2: Stupid tit, I just thought, you meant this didn't you SenjutsuSage SenjutsuSage


1UtEkln.jpg
I have not seen one benchmark online where someone got 250FPS at max settings in 4K. 100FPS (average is less) is maximum what people are getting at these settings. Those must be low settings you running or your FPS is showing wrong, or you aren't running that in 4K.
 
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Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
I know, but sometimes I like to see whether people actually own what they say they do since a lot of pc bragging takes place often on console forums. This is mine. Easiest way is always forum or twitter profile with the info screen. :D
CeCJQyg.jpg

Balls, turned off now, as I’m chilling with the wife (well WAS haha). But one thing I can say is... no other git running this GPU have likely left their drivers on the old ones haha 🤣

Silly argument we are all having anyway, it’s not even about this in the thread, but I may have a super computer from the future, that would be nice. Might put it on eBay and flog it.
 

Gediminas

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I have not seen one benchmark online where someone got 250FPS at max settings in 4K. 100FPS (average is less) is maximum what people are getting at these settings. Those must be low settings you running or your FPS is showing wrong.
because such monitor does not exist, the connections does not exist nor internet exist to support that. the man writing nonsense.
 

Gavin Stevens

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I have not seen one benchmark online where someone got 250FPS at max settings in 4K. 100FPS is maximum what people are getting at these settings. Those must be low settings you running or your FPS is showing wrong.

As I said, multiplayer runs totally different to single player. Single player hovers around 70-90, which is to be expected. But I do have a decent rig mate, it’s not exactly cheap, and I do work with tech.

I will be blunt and say that at times when the action heats up and i have a fillrate heavy scene it can drop a far whack mind you.

But please, I know it’s difficult counting pixels on a down sampled image, but you can still see detail and stair stepping.
 

Reindeer

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As I said, multiplayer runs totally different to single player. Single player hovers around 70-90, which is to be expected. But I do have a decent rig mate, it’s not exactly cheap, and I do work with tech.

I will be blunt and say that at times when the action heats up and i have a fillrate heavy scene it can drop a far whack mind you.

But please, I know it’s difficult counting pixels on a down sampled image, but you can still see detail and stair stepping.
There are tons of videos specifically for multiplayer that all show around the same number of 75-100FPS.
 
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LED Guy?

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People really do need to stop sleeping on console titles just because they're console titles lol. There are many console titles across the years that have looked as good or better than anything I've seen on PC. I don't care how much better a PC version would or could have looked. The point is that the damn game looks incredible on the console it's on, and when compared to big PC titles, regardless of whether I'm being drawn in by production value or art direction, I still find this console game to look as amazing or better than what's available on PC. Console titles can compete with what's on PC, and has been doing so for years.
Yes I wholeheartedly agree with you, it’s why I said Uncharted 4 looks better and packs more technically demanding technologies as an engine and as a core game than Modern Warfare 2019 because MW is a 60 FPS on consoles, Uncharted 4 is a 30 FPS game.
 

Gavin Stevens

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because such monitor does not exist, the connections does not exist nor internet exist to support that. the man writing nonsense.

Where did I ever say my MONITOR is outputting these frame rates? In fact, I seem to remember saying my monitor is old hat, but I haven’t got around to upgrading that part yet...?

Do you guys think you need 250 hrz monitors to run at 250fps...?

That’s not how it works, mate. You can run at any frame rate you want, it just won’t be taken advantage of if your monitor won’t support it. But it will still render at X fps.

Also, I usually run at 60fps capped, due to no need for anything more. I’m eyeing up a new 144 hrz one though for soon.
 
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