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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Disco_

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Yeah I have 1gig fios plan and surprisingly my ps4 tests sometimes actually show 800mb download speeds so I'm happy with it.
A 1Gbps connection is equal to 125Mb/s. (I think that's the right conversion). If you still have the original HDD in your console, you're stuck at <50MB/s.

I wouldn't be surprised if SSDs are also limited by the OS. I can't remember downloads to my HDD being slower than to SSD. They both show pretty much max speed which can't be accurate as you can't download faster than you write to the drive.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Lol it's a 4k UHD TV. Only negative is the low refresh rate which I hope won't be a problem. Paid only 249 euros for it.

Iā€˜m a firm believer you get what you pay for when it comes to TVs, but to be honest, it doesnā€™t matter a great deal. When you say low refresh, as long as itā€™s 60, youā€™re all good. Hell, Iā€™ve seen some really good sets for cheap. You may not get the best HDR but to be perfectly blunt until HDR gets it act on gear and a decent one standard comes along, that shits a minefield anyway.

As long as youā€™re happy with it, thereā€™s no issue. And as that price? Canā€™t grumble. I paid over three grand for mine a few years back and Iā€™m ready to upgrade, but Iā€™m waiting on one of the new sets with all the 120fps jizz to reach a cheap price for 75ā€ (currently on 65ā€ OLED B7)
 

Lort

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Will never happen. Xbox One was basically a $199 machine since 2014, sold third of PS4 .

$399/499 Xbox 360 couldn't outsell $600/500 PS3 (overall WW sales not NPD only)

The original Xbox slashed its price to $199 shortly after release and couldn't outsell PS2 despite being twice as powerful (that's more than 100% GPU power not including other advantages (arch and Ram)

Only way for MS to outsell Playstation is simply buying the division (brand) from Sony, and good damn luck with that šŸ¤£

Suuuuch a pity you have no idea what your talking about.

Xbox 360 vs ps3 price



If the xbox 360 was more aggressive on price .. they would have won that generation unquestionably.

If the Lockhart is $150 cheaper .. and plays all same games at 1080p60 vs 4k 60 ... it will be the best value by far. It will outsell the Playstation in total sales ... but you can believe whatever you want.
 
Iā€˜m a firm believer you get what you pay for when it comes to TVs, but to be honest, it doesnā€™t matter a great deal. When you say low refresh, as long as itā€™s 60, youā€™re all good. Hell, Iā€™ve seen some really good sets for cheap. You may not get the best HDR but to be perfectly blunt until HDR gets it act on gear and a decent one standard comes along, that shits a minefield anyway.

As long as youā€™re happy with it, thereā€™s no issue. And as that price? Canā€™t grumble. I paid over three grand for mine a few years back and Iā€™m ready to upgrade, but Iā€™m waiting on one of the new sets with all the 120fps jizz to reach a cheap price for 75ā€ (currently on 65ā€ OLED B7)

Have you had any issues with burn-in with your OLED? Planning to upgrade my set this year, but after talking with a few people and seeing the RTINGS.com post about it I think I might pass on an OLED set becaus of the burn-in possibilities...so I was looking to do the Sony XBR-85X950H, but come to find out if won't have HDMI 2.1 :messenger_pouting: so my second set I am looking is the LG 86NANO90UNA which I hope come out good in the reviews, otherwise no TV for me this year...
 
Suuuuch a pity you have no idea what your talking about.

Xbox 360 vs ps3 price



If the xbox 360 was more aggressive on price .. they would have won that generation unquestionably.

If the Lockhart is $150 cheaper .. and plays all same games at 1080p60 vs 4k 60 ... it will be the best value by far. It will outsell the Playstation in total sales ... but you can believe whatever you want.
The same can be said if PS3 was more aggressive on price,or even equal launch price,and lets not forget was released 1 year later,do you really think Xbox can beat PlayStation sales in WW? US is a 50/50,WW? Not even close,you can print this.
 
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LED Guy?

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Yea where I am now they wont say specific numbers but "comparable to a 2080 super" is what I am hearing. I really don't give a fuck what the numbers are both machines are going to be awesome.
WOW!! This is what Jason Schreier said about the power of these consoles, that they are more powerful than the RTX 2080, so within RTX 2080 Super.
 

Gediminas

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Suuuuch a pity you have no idea what your talking about.

Xbox 360 vs ps3 price



If the xbox 360 was more aggressive on price .. they would have won that generation unquestionably.

If the Lockhart is $150 cheaper .. and plays all same games at 1080p60 vs 4k 60 ... it will be the best value by far. It will outsell the Playstation in total sales ... but you can believe whatever you want.
in this case, you can believe what ever you want. history facts are facts.
even with lockhart they have no chance. few month in a year they can win, that is all.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Have you had any issues with burn-in with your OLED? Planning to upgrade my set this year, but after talking with a few people and seeing the RTINGS.com post about it I think I might pass on an OLED set becaus of the burn-in possibilities...so I was looking to do the Sony XBR-85X950H, but come to find out if won't have HDMI 2.1 :messenger_pouting: so my second set I am looking is the LG 86NANO90UNA which I hope come out good in the reviews, otherwise no TV for me this year...

No problems with burn in, Ive had none at all. Iā€™ve had the usual horizontal lines that come and go and seem to be an OLED panel thing. But burn in? Nope.

What I do get however is temporal burn in. So for example if I switch over to Netflix, if the user login boxes appear, they will be ā€œburnt inā€ for w few seconds until the screen refreshes. Annoying but common and only happens if you immediately view dark grey afterwards.

But Iā€™ve had no burn in from HUDā€™s, or anything static, at all. I recently viewed everything under solid rgb colours to check and nothing...

It probably helps that the tv also gets a good few hours of Peppa Pig every day, which helps refresh the screen šŸ¤£ Damn three year olds šŸ¤£
 

Gamernyc78

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in this case, you can believe what ever you want. history facts are facts.
even with lockhart they have no chance. few month in a year they can win, that is all.

There's history on this with the PS3 I've repeated a dozen times. The super fans arent trying to hear logic or common sense lol let them drown in their river of delusion. The github situation and how thy both will be double digit already has them wound up lol
 
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Bogroll

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The same can be said if PS3 was more aggressive on price,or even equal launch price,and lets not forget was released 1 year later,do you really think Xbox can beat PlayStation sales in WW? US is a 50/50,WW? Not even close,you can print this.
Funny how people always remember PS3 released later when it comes to sales war but never that it was still being sold after Xbox 360 was discontinued in April 2016. Ps3 discontinued in May 2017.
 
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No problems with burn in, Ive had none at all. Iā€™ve had the usual horizontal lines that come and go and seem to be an OLED panel thing. But burn in? Nope.

What I do get however is temporal burn in. So for example if I switch over to Netflix, if the user login boxes appear, they will be ā€œburnt inā€ for w few seconds until the screen refreshes. Annoying but common and only happens if you immediately view dark grey afterwards.

But Iā€™ve had no burn in from HUDā€™s, or anything static, at all. I recently viewed everything under solid rgb colours to check and nothing...

It probably helps that the tv also gets a good few hours of Peppa Pig every day, which helps refresh the screen šŸ¤£ Damn three year olds šŸ¤£

Awesome, thanks for the info! I would try the Peppa Pig screen refresh but I think my 14 year old daughter would kill me if I tried to make her watch it for a few hours! :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Aceofspades

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Suuuuch a pity you have no idea what your talking about.

Xbox 360 vs ps3 price



If the xbox 360 was more aggressive on price .. they would have won that generation unquestionably.

If the Lockhart is $150 cheaper .. and plays all same games at 1080p60 vs 4k 60 ... it will be the best value by far. It will outsell the Playstation in total sales ... but you can believe whatever you want.

Idk what the hell is your point with the first link. And second link talks about US sales only .

Reread what I wrote, I said PS3 was outselling X360 WORLD WIDE . That's why PS3 was able to catch up to a 10m sales deficiency due to releasing a year later ( year and half in EU, its strongest market)

My point still stands.
 

Great Hair

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Still unsure, what theyĀ“re capable off. TheyĀ“re damn good at platforming and spiderman-esque gameplay ... but thatĀ“s it. Sucker Punch will outdo them this next gen easily. And it just hit me :

- Insomiac Games has only released 1x game on PS4 (not really new IP, nor game)
- Sucker Punch released 2 games this generation, of which 1x is a new IP
- Polyphony Digital ..
- Japan Studio released some games and published/helped others (best output)
- Naughty Dog did not release ANY game on PS4 at all (no new ip or new game)
 

01011001

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Still unsure, what theyĀ“re capable off. TheyĀ“re damn good at platforming and spiderman-esque gameplay ... but thatĀ“s it. Sucker Punch will outdo them this next gen easily. And it just hit me :

suckerpunch haven't released a good game since InFamous 2 and even that wasn't outstanding or anything... and the Sly games before that were very hit and miss at best.

Second Son was absolutely and utterly terrible. I have zero faith in anything Suckerpunch do at this point, which is why I am highly skeptical of Ghost of Tsushima.

EDIT: I just noticed how fucking insane your comment is... wtf? Insomniac didn't release a new IP? UHM.... WHAT?
and Naughty Dog didn't release a new game?... have you been under a rock for the last 7 years? what is this?
 
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Still unsure, what theyĀ“re capable off. TheyĀ“re damn good at platforming and spiderman-esque gameplay ... but thatĀ“s it. Sucker Punch will outdo them this next gen easily. And it just hit me :

- Insomiac Games has only released 1x game on PS4 (not really new IP, nor game)
- Sucker Punch released 2 games this generation, of which 1x is a new IP
- Polyphony Digital ..
- Japan Studio released some games and published/helped others (best output)
- Naughty Dog did not release ANY game on PS4 at all (no new ip or new game)
Uncharted 4? Spider Man? InFamous?
 
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Ellery

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Still unsure, what theyĀ“re capable off. TheyĀ“re damn good at platforming and spiderman-esque gameplay ... but thatĀ“s it. Sucker Punch will outdo them this next gen easily. And it just hit me :

- Insomiac Games has only released 1x game on PS4 (not really new IP, nor game)
- Sucker Punch released 2 games this generation, of which 1x is a new IP
- Polyphony Digital ..
- Japan Studio released some games and published/helped others (best output)
- Naughty Dog did not release ANY game on PS4 at all (no new ip or new game)

Is this some sort of new meme joke I am not getting?
 

Great Hair

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Uncharted 4? Spider Man? InFamous?

Not new. Uncharted is a PS3 IP, same with Infam. and SpiderMan exists since PS1. Im TALKING about 100% NEW IP and ND didnt deliver this generation, like they did with prev. ones?

PS1 Crash Band.
PS2 Jak&D.
PS3 Uncharted, TLOU
PS4 Uncharted, TLOU2

WhatĀ“s so hard to understand? They have 2 or 3 teams? and their output was below Japan Studio or Sucker Punch (new entry + new ip). IĀ“m not shitting onĀ“em, just "pointing out".

They better be releasing two new IPs on PS5. Personally done with Uncharted and Uncharted with Zombies ;=)
 

OsirisBlack

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suckerpunch haven't released a good game since InFamous 2 and even that wasn't outstanding or anything... and the Sly games before that were very hit and miss at best.

Second Son was absolutely and utterly terrible. I have zero faith in anything Suckerpunch do at this point, which is why I am highly skeptical of Ghost of Tsushima.
Second Son was a very early title that was still very entertaining and pretty to look at. (Looks even better with the pro and HDR patch.) Ghosts is an end of cycle game and while I understand skepticism. The comparison is apples to filet mignon.


This is also what Henry Clark said... Not sure why everyone disregarded him.
Who is Henry Clark?

Edit never mind found him.
 
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Funny how people always remember PS3 released later when it comes to sales war but never that it was still being sold after Xbox 360 was discontinued in April 2016. Ps3 discontinued in May 2017.
Yeah,because the first year sales for Xbox360 = the numbers the PS3 was putting between 2016 and 2017 with the PS4 already in its 4th year
/s
 

devilNprada

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Who is Henry Clark?

I am an intern at third party studio cannot reveal my source but everything above is 100% legit.
RT level is between 2080 and super.
XSX also has additional 4 gigs of ddr4 memory (sorry for not adding there)
No idea about PS5 design, DS5 final look and BC with PS3,2 and 1

I am thinking the guy works for Ubisoft in Pune India.
 

Gamernyc78

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Second Son was a very early title that was still very entertaining and pretty to look at. (Looks even better with the pro and HDR patch.) Ghosts is an end of cycle game and while I understand skepticism. The comparison is apples to filet mignon.


Who is Henry Clark?

Edit never mind found him.

I always say Infamous second son still looks better than alot of games coming out now.
 

01011001

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Second Son was a very early title that was still very entertaining and pretty to look at. (Looks even better with the pro and HDR patch.) Ghosts is an end of cycle game and while I understand skepticism. The comparison is apples to filet mignon.

Second Son is absolutely awful, I tried playing it again when it came to PS+ but fuck are these controls awful... and the collision detection is completely ass.
that game was a rushed graphics showpiece nothing more.

I really liked the first InFamous and never really played the second one but it seemed alright (and ran way better) but the Sly cooper games were pretty meh and at some points absolutely mediocre... so Sucker Punch made 1 single game I consider actually good and that was more than a decade ago with the newest sequel to that series completely destroying everything that was good about the first game so... nah, I am waiting for some longer unscripted gameplay videos by a third party of Ghost of Tsushima until I decide on that game. so far it looks like nothing special... very run-of-the-mill stealth and a very context sensitive looking fighting system (always a bad sign) aren't really telling me this is gonna be great.
I am long over games being able to blind me with pretty graphics, the game looks gorgeous but everything that has to do with how it plays looks heavily context sensitive (aka shallow) and pretty standard fare for a current gen AAA third person action game
 

M-V2

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Second Son was a very early title that was still very entertaining and pretty to look at. (Looks even better with the pro and HDR patch.) Ghosts is an end of cycle game and while I understand skepticism. The comparison is apples to filet mignon.


Who is Henry Clark?

Edit never mind found him.
And? Nothing to say about their leaks?
 
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