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[DIEHARD.]

I feel like he is being sarcastic on his reply, I have a feeling the PS5 might be doing those items he listed a little better than the competition based on the vibe I got from that.

I agree. Strange comment, stones being thrown? Again we play the "waiting game" or is more like the "crying game".

 

[DForce]

This stuff is just too funny.

How is Sony surprised at the specs of the Xbox Series X, but Xbox insiders are not? If these insiders know, then I'm sure Sony knows, too.

People need to stop with this Sony is "surprised" and "shocked" BS.

 

[Deleted member 779727]

SOON+6

#Team27thFeb

 

[jonnyp]

If @OsirisBlack is correct and the xsx is 12tf and 12.4, I think APi's will make a bigger difference, for example PS4 had inferior anisotropic filtering on some games despite being more powerful. so even if PS5 is 3.34% more powerful , it won't be "more powerful" because some games will superior on the xsx, a bit like the PS3/360 gen but with even smaller differences.

The only Downside to this is that there will be no clear winner when it comes to which box is the most powerful.

Why is it a downside? Buy the box that has the most games you want to play.

 

[ZywyPL]

PS5 17 Teraflops confirmed!

/Just kidding

But it's actually true!

Spoiler

FP16

So lads - Rdna 2 is faster then rdna 1 by what 100 percent?

Hell no, 10-20% at most is what I recon as far as efficiency from architecture improvements go, plus some further gains from possibly increased clock speeds. But that being said, 12TF RDNA should perform as about 18TF GCN card, so with 2nd RDNA version we are possibly looking at (non-existing of course) ~20TF Vega.

 

[demigod]

SOON+6

#Team27thFeb

I am coming for you if this turns out false.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

If @OsirisBlack is correct and the xsx is 12tf and 12.4, I think APi's will make a bigger difference, for example PS4 had inferior anisotropic filtering on some games despite being more powerful. so even if PS5 is 3.34% more powerful , it won't be "more powerful" because some games will superior on the xsx, a bit like the PS3/360 gen but with even smaller differences.

The only Downside to this is that there will be no clear winner when it comes to which box is the most powerful.

Which would be a good thing for everyone as there will be no compromises this time around.

 

[vpance]

People who said RT won't be done without RDNA 2.0 due to the AMD slides, redeemed.

The interesting thing is who is using AMDs RT solution. Or neither of them? And why it ended up like that

 

[Moses85]

I can't wait until Sony reveal the PS5

You are alone with this.

 

[Bryank75]

'suckerpunched' lol
Gimme a break.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

If @OsirisBlack is correct and the xsx is 12tf and 12.4, I think APi's will make a bigger difference, for example PS4 had inferior anisotropic filtering on some games despite being more powerful. so even if PS5 is 3.34% more powerful , it won't be "more powerful" because some games will superior on the xsx, a bit like the PS3/360 gen but with even smaller differences.

The only Downside to this is that there will be no clear winner when it comes to which box is the most powerful.

And I know some people on both sides that can't handle the consoles being so close in specs, but when you look at the big picture it is a GREAT thing that they are hopefully both going to be so close...if they are close then 3rd party games are going to be able to push fidelity even more and cut down on development time as well which is a win win for everyone!

 

[Sosokrates]

Why is it a downside? Buy the box that has the most games you want to play.

Because the power/performance argument will never stop.

This gen the power/performance arguments settled down quite quickly because it was obvious which box had better performance

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Reads like an engineer's play on words. Read between the lines on this one, mate.

I believe he's dropping some hints here.

Also interesting they seem to be talking about RDNA2's RT in particular. Could be possible PS5 is using a different (proprietary) RT solution because the questions they ask in that tweet sound more hinting at a comparison between their RT and AMD's.

Either that, or they are using AMD's RT as well and at least some of RDNA2 in that aspect. But they're odd questions to rhetorically ask if they're using the same tech, leads me to think they have their own RT solution implemented somehow, maybe on some chip-to-chip pipelining with RapidIO or InfinityFabric customization with AMD (could also explain lack of RT blocks enabled on Oberon tests; may not be using AMD's particular RT tech and microcode to enable it might've been withheld by Sony, or it just wasn't ready to enable on an older stepping).

 

[Sosokrates]

And I know some people on both sides that can't handle the consoles being so close in specs, but when you look at the big picture it is a GREAT thing that they are hopefully both going to be so close...if they are close then 3rd party games are going to be able to push fidelity even more and cut down on development time as well which is a win win for everyone!

Yes the people who make a big fuss about the power differences should get auto banned.
It's a great thing that power won't be a deciding factor next gen.

 

[IllegalLemon]

You gotta love it when fanboys get called out

I just love it when a clueless fanboy that is completely oblivious on the topic of system architecture and Processor design tries to pretend it's smart in front of an actual chip engineer who has spent years researching the art itself and devoted tons of time to learn and master it, only to be utterly destroyed and humiliated by the said engineer, it makes things a lot more fun when you see people with expertise in a particular field engaging in a conversions with other people who are trying to look smart. It's painfully obvious that Matt is also dropping hints of the PS5 while trying to be as subtle as possible so as to not spoil the surprise.

 

[M-V2]

You are alone with this.

I'm totally fine being alone, as I said "I" can't wait, not "we"

 

[Deleted member 779727]

I am coming for you if this turns out false.

Sony please reveal something on the 27th

 

[Ralf]

 

[RaySoft]

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

Sony please reveal something on the 27th

Geez! Why do you want them to wait until the 27th?! I am hoping to a 3rd and final Wired article tomorrow...the last two both dropped on a Tuesday and guess what tomorrow is...TUESDAY! Keeping my fingers crossed!

 

[DIEHARD.]

How do you feel about ur December prediction of

xsx 12 TF rdna2
Ps5 13 TF rdna2
?

still
Confident? U got half correct lol

What if its: XsX: 12.2 TF RDNA 2 vs. PS5: 13.8 TF RDNA 1.5? Don't know about ya'll I'll take both FTW!!!

 

[Imtjnotu]

Lol man the Sony hype train is falling apart after today.

Sony you gotta do something man lol

 

[ruvikx]

I just love it when a clueless fanboy that is completely oblivious on the topic of system architecture and Processor design tries to pretend it's smart in front of an actual chip engineer who has spent years researching the art itself and devoted tons of time to learn and master it, only to be utterly destroyed and humiliated by the said engineer, it makes things a lot more fun when you see people with expertise in a particular field engaging in a conversions with other people who are trying to look smart. It's painfully obvious that Matt is also dropping hints of the PS5 while trying to be as subtle as possible so as to not spoil the surprise.

I would expect an actual engineer to have more important things to do than respond to randoms on Twitter when a rival company reveals their console specs. Unless he's dropping actual info about the ps5, it just looks like pointless sniping which people can read into whatever they want.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I'm not saying they need to, that's why I said hypothetically.

Hypothetical would have to be if one was severely lacking, no?

 

[Ralf]

What if its: XsX: 12.2 TF RDNA 2 vs. PS5: 13.8 TF RDNA 1.5? Don't know about ya'll I'll take both FTW!!!

Sony silent = no 13.8TF in PS5. If you have advantage you say first, like MS now and Sony seven years ago.

 

[Tommy Fisher]

What if its: XsX: 12.2 TF RDNA 2 vs. PS5: 13.8 TF RDNA 1.5? Don't know about ya'll I'll take both FTW!!!

Both are based on RDNA 2.0 tech and sony's biggest BOMBs are yet to come.

 

[DragoonKain]

Hypothetical would have to be if one was severely lacking, no?

Not necessarily. It’s a competition, you never know what is gonna motivate one company to one-up another, even if it’s by small margins. Just curious if Sony’s specs are say slightly worse, now that they have the MS specs, is it too late in the game to go “ok, we’re gonna top it”

It probably is too late since devs started developing for the console already, but I don’t know for sure.

 

[Mriverz]

Both are based on RDNA 2.0 tech and sony's biggest BOMBs are yet to come.

Tooommyyy long time no seee. Give us a bone here. Sony is slackinng o_o

 

[DForce]

Sony silent = no 13.8TF in PS5. If you have advantage you say first, like MS now and Sony seven years ago.

You don't know their strategy, you're just assuming.

 

[Fdkenzo]

Both are based on RDNA 2.0 tech and sony's biggest BOMBs are yet to come.

Welcome back!
Lets hope that the secret sausage will be coming in the NexT Days!!!

 

[DIEHARD.]

Both are based on RDNA 2.0 tech and sony's biggest BOMBs are yet to come.

Interesting time ahead. Carpet bombing in coming from Sony? Until them we WAIT......

 

[jonnyp]

Because the power/performance argument will never stop.

This gen the power/performance arguments settled down quite quickly because it was obvious which box had better performance

Who cares what a small minority whines about? It won't stop no matter what. Ignore it.

 

[TherapistGaymer]

If it is 12TF RDNA why do they claim only twice as powerful as Xbox Series X? Someone should ask them that and get an answer that makes sense.

Yeah I'm happy I'm just wanting to understand that myself.

 

[johnjohn]

Both are based on RDNA 2.0 tech and sony's biggest BOMBs are yet to come.

Of course you won't mention these bombs until they're already announced, like all your other "info" lmao.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You gotta love it when fanboys get called out

Well would you look at that.

 

[Deleted member 779727]

Geez! Why do you want them to wait until the 27th?! I am hoping to a 3rd and final Wired article tomorrow...the last two both dropped on a Tuesday and guess what tomorrow is...TUESDAY! Keeping my fingers crossed!

Theres was a pastebin post uploaded yesterday that said 27th at 2pm PST. I know pastebin isn't trustworthy but it's something.

PS5 reveal event announcement - Pastebin.com

pastebin.com

 

[Ralf]

You don't know their strategy, you're just assuming.

Strategy is always this same and never change it. Why Sony give us sold numbers of Ps4 and MS dont?. Because PS4 sold much, much better than X1. Now MS talk and Sony silent, becasue XSX is much powerfull than PS5.

 

[Dabaus]

Both are based on RDNA 2.0 tech and sony's biggest BOMBs are yet to come.

In your opinion, what would you consider a "bomb?"

 

[M-V2]

I would expect an actual engineer to have more important things to do than respond to randoms on Twitter when a rival company reveals their console specs. Unless he's dropping actual info about the ps5, it just looks like pointless sniping which people can read into whatever they want.

He needs to stop him from spreading misinformation, plus he is a human being not a machine so you want him to work 24/7

 

[Sosokrates]

Lol man the Sony hype train is falling apart after today.

Sony you gotta do something man lol

So true, they are now like 3 or 4 media/announcements behind ms.

Ms have done the E3 video of Scarlett, done a few blogs, released a in engine demo and console advert video at the game awards.

Sony have just done 2 wired articles the last one being in Oct 2019 and announcing a dam logo.

 

[IkarugaDE]

[

Both are based on RDNA 2.0 tech and sony's biggest BOMBs are yet to come.

2 bombs with 6.9 explosive force each?

 

[Gediminas]

Both are based on RDNA 2.0 tech and sony's biggest BOMBs are yet to come.

you said, that if there isn't sony's show by the march, mods can ban you, no?

 

[DForce]

Strategy is always this same and never change it. Why Sony give us sold numbers of Ps4 and MS dont?. Because PS4 sold much, much better than X1.

If it was the same, they would be at E3.

 

[CraZed]

Even ps5 engineer Surprised by rdna 2

Those are pretty specific questions for someone 'surprised' by it. His post hints at intimate, first hand knowledge on the technology.

 

[TherapistGaymer]

God I swear some of you are really hard to handle. A TF is a TF no matter the architecture. The console is 12 TF. And now confirmed that it is RDNA 2.0.

12TF is twice the TF of XBX. However, in actual performance it is higher because the efficiency of RDNA means the same TF deliver higher performance.

This was not an asterik 12TF equivalent in GCN.

Some of you need to just stop. I mean what the hell else do you all need?

You are actually right. I was one who wanted to know more but at the same time, its whatever. 12 rdna is awesome. Maybe they just said double without explaining the situation from GCN to RDNA. I'm a realist so you actually slapped me back to reality. Appreciate that.

 

[Insane Metal]

 

[johnjohn]

Did that guy get fired? He just changed his bio to 'formerly principal Software engineer on PS5'.

 

[Gudji]

Ballmer was the man.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I just love it when a clueless fanboy that is completely oblivious on the topic of system architecture and Processor design tries to pretend it's smart in front of an actual chip engineer who has spent years researching the art itself and devoted tons of time to learn and master it, only to be utterly destroyed and humiliated by the said engineer, it makes things a lot more fun when you see people with expertise in a particular field engaging in a conversions with other people who are trying to look smart. It's painfully obvious that Matt is also dropping hints of the PS5 while trying to be as subtle as possible so as to not spoil the surprise.

What has Matt said? Is it anything new?

 

[FERN]

Did that guy get fired? He just changed his bio to 'formerly principal Software engineer on PS5'.

Maybe he got a promotion for that bomb-ass tweet