Gamernyc78
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That was edgy I commend you 
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ThaMonkeyClaw
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ResilientBanana
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This is all I could find, it's just a rumor
AMD RDNA 2: New rumors allege 50% better performance than RDNA 1 with no added power consumption
If you thought that 2019 was good for graphics cards and gamers, then think again. 2020 is already shaping up to be even better than last year, with not only new consoles and RTX 3000 around the corner, but also RDNA 2. AMD's next GPU architecture will sport huge improvements over the likes of...
www.notebookcheck.net
IF Sony sticks to RDNA, MS will have the performance gain of RDNA2. Personally I hope they are on the same playing field.
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DeepEnigma
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Reads like an engineer's play on words. Read between the lines on this one, mate.
I believe he's dropping some hints here.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Assuming on low end RDNA2 is a 30% improvement over GCN, the difference would be 450GF (12TF RDNA 1 vs 12.45 RDNA 1 effective (of 12TF RDNA2)).
However, I've seen some speculation it's closer to a 50% improvement, so that would be a difference of 2.25TF (12TF RDNA 1 vs 14.25TF RDNA 1 effective (of 12TF RDNA2)).
The 50% amount is kind of high though; I'm not sure what the actual efficiency percentage of RDNA2 over GCN really is. Even for RDNA1, the 25% might be more a test condition amount; actual real-world efficiency numbers would range between 20% and 25% I'd reckon.
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demigod
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Reads like an engineer's play on words. Read between the lines on this one, mate.
I believe he's dropping some hints here.
Too hard for some people.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
you do realize this is him saying the complete opposite right?
M-V2
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Reads like an engineer's play on words. Read between the lines on this one, mate.
I think he is dropping some hints here.
Lmao it seems he is more confident that the ps5 is doing all these better, that's why he asking if MS is doing the same as well?? I could be wrong but it seems that way
IkarugaDE
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Yeah I understand that the same way.Lmao it seems he is more confident that the ps5 is doing all these better, that's why he asking if MS is doing the same as well?? I could be wrong but it seems that way
sonomamashine
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At least 17Tf, RDNA 2 tdp will most likely improve from 1, HBM power consumption is less than GDDR6, a beast.
K.N.W.
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Since everyone here is entitled to say its own thought, I'll just drop mine: I have this lucid wet dream of Sony using the Cell for RT stuff. It was tested in the PS3 era for raytracing, it could be manifactured "kinda cheaply" by Sony, and since electronics manifacturing evolved, it would have more SPUs, no need to use the central PPC core this time (SPUs have their own architecture and custom instructions anyway). They might even make PS5 with the option of plugging "Cell Expansion Card" , and only include it with PS5 PRO.
Now stop dreaming and wake up
Now stop dreaming and wake up
Matreios Raven
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PS5’s engineer is like: “Yeah, but can XSX do this?” In an indirectly confident (smug?) way.
Matreios Raven
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PS5 17 Teraflops confirmed!
/Just kidding
Seriously though, I think Sony is aiming for the PS5 to be on par with hardware like the XSX. Matt’s comment at least made it sound like they’re aiming for such a high caliber machine of their own. Just my opinion, though.
/Just kidding
Seriously though, I think Sony is aiming for the PS5 to be on par with hardware like the XSX. Matt’s comment at least made it sound like they’re aiming for such a high caliber machine of their own. Just my opinion, though.
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ThaMonkeyClaw
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saintjules
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Evilms
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On paper, the GPU in the Xbox Series X is faster than a GeForce RTX 2080 Super
Microsoft confirmed the GPU inside the Xbox Series X is based on AMD's RDNA 2 architecture with 12 TFLOPs of performance.
Rusco Da Vino
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Incorrect. Yesterday the mods deleted me a meme I made laughing about the 9.2 NeoGaf Team (it was a funny one)
Your post in the thread |OT| Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Speculation/Analysis/Leaks Thread was deleted. Reason: Lay off the low effort bait and discuss instead of meming.
Today at 1:54 AM
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DragoonKain
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Hypothetically, say Sony is dead set on matching or beating MS in specs. Is it too late in the game for them to change specs right now and upgrade their build last minute? Or can they do that since they haven’t officially announced anything yet?
They haven’t started production, but I don’t know if it’s possible at this point to do that if they hypothetically wanted to.
They haven’t started production, but I don’t know if it’s possible at this point to do that if they hypothetically wanted to.
vpance
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Reads like an engineer's play on words. Read between the lines on this one, mate.
I believe he's dropping some hints here.
In other words, Osiris's hint of PS5 RT > XSX RT
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
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CyberPanda
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I was just gonna post this. Thanks
ThaMonkeyClaw
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On paper, the GPU in the Xbox Series X is faster than a GeForce RTX 2080 Super
Microsoft confirmed the GPU inside the Xbox Series X is based on AMD's RDNA 2 architecture with 12 TFLOPs of performance.www.pcgamer.com
Here's hoping PS5 is spec'd near the same, if so, this next gen is going to be awesome!
I think the only think at this point would be clock bumps and adjustments in RAM amount, if they started messing with CU counts, etc. it would have to be redesigned and end up being delayed (which won't happen).
DeepEnigma
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Who is saying they need to? Schreirer's sources said 2080 power for both machines, and people laughed. Yet here we are.
Now we have a PS5 engineer dropping a cheeky bit of info. I think signs are pointing to equal footing with some slight advantages to each one.
Matreios Raven
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I’m far from an expert, but it depends on how high Sony has been aiming for, especially within the past few months/years/who knows? Just my 2 cents on this.
M-V2
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Incorrect. Yesterday the mods deleted me a meme I made laughing about the 9.2 NeoGaf Team (it was a funny one)
Your post in the thread |OT| Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Speculation/Analysis/Leaks Thread was deleted. Reason: Lay off the low effort bait and discuss instead of meming.
Today at 1:54 AM
Haha it's fine mate, they made a new thread that you can upload whatever you want related to console war & stuff so if you wanna upload something then do it there.
KURDISTAN YPG
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So lads - Rdna 2 is faster then rdna 1 by what 100 percent? What does this help with? Buffering? Input? Os level exchanges?
sorry for technorance
sorry for technorance
Evilms
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Nickolaidas
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So there's a chance that the PS5 will be 6-7 times than the PS4 - a game console that gave us Horizon Zero Dawn and tLoU2 … that's insane.
DeepEnigma
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People who said RT won't be done without RDNA 2.0 due to the AMD slides, redeemed.
ThaMonkeyClaw
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The only people truly surprised by it is us gamers! Lol! I honestly didn't see it coming, I was just expecting a customized RDNA 1.0 setup, I am hoping Sony follows through with RDNA 2 as well!
demigod
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TBiddy
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That is the main take-away here. Considering what was achieved on the PS4 and the XB1 - imagine the experiences we're in for.
saintjules
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It'll be a while - it's about 30 minutes long. I'd imagine their article from today summarizes most of it though?
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DragoonKain
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I'm not saying they need to, that's why I said hypothetically.
DJ12
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Problem with the internet is people think they know everything lol.
It's not been done before doesn't mean it's never going to happen. Now those naysayers know they were wrong and to top it all off it's their own favourite plastic box that first stuck the knife through them first.
Now, got any new info for us lol
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Agnostic2020
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How do you feel about ur December prediction of
xsx 12 TF rdna2
Ps5 13 TF rdna2
?
still
Confident? U got half correct lol
sonomamashine
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I get that, many people get multiple pass's and i'm the one getting banned.
Dabaus
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In regards to the sony engineer, if PS5 were lacking features compared to xbox then i doubt he would even be allowed to comment. With that said I feel like Xbox sucker punched sony hard today so the PS5 engineering team is probably reeling so this is him just coping out loud, NDA's be damned.
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CyberPanda
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On paper, the GPU in the Xbox Series X is faster than a GeForce RTX 2080 Super
Microsoft confirmed the GPU inside the Xbox Series X is based on AMD's RDNA 2 architecture with 12 TFLOPs of performance.
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bitbydeath
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chemical boy
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Please explain this that I understood by my English that the engineer was surprised.
ph33rknot
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be fair his source thought the Xbox was at 11 tf and 9.5-10 is close to 11 tf
gamechanger87
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My read is that Sony didn't like the AMD RT setup and went with their own custom one. MS went with RDNA 2.0 and DX RT.
Sony had no reason to go with RDNA 2.0 because they had a custom solution and its why there was no RT in Github.
If Sony was using RDNA 2.0, they would both have the same feature sets and he would not be asking this question. There isn't a reason to have RDNA 2.0 and use your own RT solution.
Questions are A) How does a 40 CU @ 2 on RDNA 1.0 with custom outside APU RT compare to just a full fat RDNA 2.0 B) How many developers are going to lean in hard on a custom RT solution versus the one built into directX?
CyberPanda
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On paper, the GPU in the Xbox Series X is faster than a GeForce RTX 2080 Super
Microsoft confirmed the GPU inside the Xbox Series X is based on AMD's RDNA 2 architecture with 12 TFLOPs of performance.www.pcgamer.com
CyberPanda
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Agnostic2020
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You gotta love it when fanboys get called out
ThaMonkeyClaw
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You gotta love it when fanboys get called out
And there we have it!
Sosokrates
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If
OsirisBlack
is correct and the xsx is 12tf and 12.4, I think APi's will make a bigger difference, for example PS4 had inferior anisotropic filtering on some games despite being more powerful. so even if PS5 is 3.34% more powerful , it won't have "more performance" because some games will superior on the xsx, a bit like the PS3/360 gen but with even smaller differences.
The only Downside to this is that there will be no clear winner when it comes to which box is the most powerful.
OsirisBlack
is correct and the xsx is 12tf and 12.4, I think APi's will make a bigger difference, for example PS4 had inferior anisotropic filtering on some games despite being more powerful. so even if PS5 is 3.34% more powerful , it won't have "more performance" because some games will superior on the xsx, a bit like the PS3/360 gen but with even smaller differences.The only Downside to this is that there will be no clear winner when it comes to which box is the most powerful.
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