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In the other threads people are saying they're scared, "of what?" Oz what I'm asking them! Rooting for both but just being honest.Xbox isn't even competition at this point. Not even for Switch.
In the other threads people are saying they're scared, "of what?" Oz what I'm asking them! Rooting for both but just being honest.Xbox isn't even competition at this point. Not even for Switch.
You sayin hardly anything has been revealed thus far must mean you've been living under a rock. That's TOTALLY inaccurate. Sure, price and games haven't been revealed yet (excluding Hellbalde II and another NY Ninja Theory) but what we have so far ain't what I call nothing. Maybe on Sony's side of the fence, maybe..They still have PS4's to sell. They still have some huge games coming this year. They don't need to rush anything.
Xbox on the other hand can't wait to sweep the Xbox One generation under the rug, and for good reason.
I'm sick of the constant speculation and bickering on here as much as the next guy but people should just relax and play some games while they wait. I mean, that's what we're all here for right?
People are behaving like a couple of tweets revealing the hardware specs and a box reveal trailer announcement from Xbox really changes anything. The reality is that we've seen very little from both parties. No dates, no prices, no launch titles, nothing tangible for anyone to guy out and pre-purchase.
Frankly speaking, no one even thought 12 tf was even possible. In fact, that's quite a formidable jump in power and, Phil is really downplaying how much GPU power that is as he's not referencing RDNA 2.0 in connection with the 12 Tf. That's a staggering number. I don't think Sony was aiming that high as they want to hit $399 for their next console.They cant really say 'THE most powerful console ever' when Sony hasnt announced specs yet, even if they 100% know. People would be like 'how do you know when Sony havent given specs yet?'. What a can of worms that would be to answrer in the gaming press lol.
Frankly speaking, no one even thought 12 tf was even possible.
LOL gotta grasp for something.Oh yes I can’t wait to see all the sjw pandering in that one
Shit like this post isn't even based in facts. Like, AT ALL. Hopes and dreams?? Trying to stay relevant???Considering MS hasn't ever won a generation and Sony has I'm inclined to give Sony the benefit of the doubt regarding the PS5. Especially coming off the momentum of this generation. To me that's just smart money. MS has been running on hopes and dreams since Spencer took over and they have to keep talking to stay relevant in the conversation.
You sayin hardly anything has been revealed thus far must mean you've been living under a rock. That's TOTALLY inaccurate. Sure, price and games haven't been revealed yet (excluding Hellbalde II and another NY Ninja Theory) but what we have so far ain't what I call nothing. Maybe on Sony's side of the fence, maybe..
What mixed messaging?? LolWe have had:
- Box reveal
- Specs
- A bunch of PR statements and mixed messaging from various interviews
I forget how much importance some of you place on the PR and talking side of things instead of things of substance that you can actually touch and buy.
Can't blame you when it's mostly all you've had to keep you going for a while.
We appreciate it. Could've been much worse. Could've been a logo...
No specs were revealed by MD, they only confirmed that they have 12TF, which they charged their distributors on YouTube and social media to propel and put out there and also told them to say Sony only has 9tf.....MS knows their numbers and we knew it too because of these social media distributors, what MS does not know is Sony's spec, so they try to lowball the PS5 number so Sony will respond, but Sony won't, this is a kindergarten game to try to elicit a response from the market leader, it won't work....Coarse you are happy with sonys approach. Keep the fans in the dark, Microsoft has firmly came out and revealed specs of the machine. The things coming out at the moment about sony ain’t positive. They struggling with price, they waiting for Microsoft to reveal price befor they confirm their price. None of this is good for the brand they need to come out and show their hand and give their fans something to be excited about. What was the last major AAA Sony released from in house?
they are no showing at E3 they have cancelled another game show to, they need positive news and even you with your blinkered vision can see this to
Sony is still showing current PS owners why they choose them over and over again and why MS does not have a clue..... They are releasing several Goty's this year, for hardware that exists now, that can be bought now and they are showing unflinching support for that hardware with their best efforts in year 7. MS is known for short-lived hype parties, which every body regrets going to.... OG XBOX cut short, 360 was done by 2009, Xbone was done day 1, Xbonex was hyped and PRO outsells it like no tomorrow and ended up having the better framerates..... MS has already forgotten about the 2017 XBONEX fearless XBONES, whilst Sony still caters to the vanilla PS4... You know LOU 2, Tsushima and FF7 will look great on OG PS4.
With a 54% failure rate.....Possibly, nobody thought the 360 would sell as it did and that can be repeated. The thing is people talk like the Xbox one was a massive failur. It sold over 50 million, that’s a huge amount. Now compared to PS4 yeah it’s a failure but it still sold a shed ton
MS is building no momentum, the only momentum MS is building is within individual posts on Neogaf.... All the hype is contained within single posts... When Sony fully reveals PS5, you will witness real momentum worldwide, hard-core or casual. Just you wait..... And please come back and say I told you so.....Maybe it’s the smart move but I’m not convinced
MS is building crazy momentum right now. Sooner than later, I think Sony needs to answer the bell and throw a counterpunch
Sony struggling and the race has not started? Sony is not in a hurry to get to the track meet, the race is 10 months away. Has MS nothing to do in the meantime? Sony racers are busy and will be busy playing LOU and TSUSHIMA, when they get to the track, they will Lap MS who was building fake hype to the two people in the stands 10 months ahead of race schedule. Sony will come in when the stadium is filled on race day. Wax MS like they always do and hear the crowd go roar and chant their name.I'll take that bet. Sony WILL NOT dominate next gen. They'll have a fight on their hands for sure. They may win next gen inevitably. But it won't be a complete balls out victory like this one. Hell no! Clearly their already struggling.
what did yesterdays reveal do for me? well it got me excited for a powerful console later this year, it revealed enough for me to get excited about, I have seen what the console looks like I know it is 12tf it is RDNA 2.0 and it will play games I buy on my Xbox X and upgrade the to the XSX version when I get that console.No specs were revealed by MD, they only confirmed that they have 12TF, which they charged their distributors on YouTube and social media to propel and put out there and also told them to say Sony only has 9tf.....MS knows their numbers and we knew it too because of these social media distributors, what MS does not know is Sony's spec, so they try to lowball the PS5 number so Sony will respond, but Sony won't, this is a kindergarten game to try to elicit a response from the market leader, it won't work....
MS has done no reveal. We already knew the console was 12TF, we already knew it had BC...... Because MS distributors had already revealed that..... No YouTube personality at this point knows PS5's console spec because Sony does not leave its marketing to Sony fans on Social Media to say.... PS5 is 14TF and Series X is 8TF to build fake hype...When the PS5's spec is shown to not only higher than 9TF, but higher than 12TF, MS's reputation will sink even further than where it already is.....
Sony is still showing current PS owners why they choose them over and over again and why MS does not have a clue..... They are releasing several Goty's this year, for hardware that exists now, that can be bought now and they are showing unflinching support for that hardware with their best efforts in year 7. MS is known for short-lived hype parties, which every body regrets going to.... OG XBOX cut short, 360 was done by 2009, Xbone was done day 1, Xbonex was hyped and PRO outsells it like no tomorrow and ended up having the better framerates..... MS has already forgotten about the 2017 XBONEX fearless XBONES, whilst Sony still caters to the vanilla PS4... You know LOU 2, Tsushima and FF7 will look great on OG PS4.
That is how you build faith and trust. Sony fans are so relaxed, they know PS5 will be a juggernaut, more importantly, they know Sony will support their PS5 with Goty chest beating first party software from day 1 till the PS6 is ready to be revealed...... MS simply has no clue in this console race. If you have nothing you hype. If you are sitting on quality software+ hardware, you just wait for the right time to reveal, when it will completely incapacitate the competition. Sadly, since MS is the competition, Sony does not even have to do much, but we know that has never stopped them from giving their best software and hardware regardless.
With a 54% failure rate.....
I have 1 question, what did MS's reveal yesterday do for you? Are you now going to purchase a Series X, when you were not before?
It has done nothing clearly, that's why you are here trying your darn darndest to get a load of the market leader's goods, because deep down you know its what most people really want to know, will buy and are looking forward too..... MS had a reveal and what has come from it than MS's own fans asking about PS even more......
MS is building no momentum, the only momentum MS is building is within individual posts on Neogaf.... All the hype is contained within single posts... When Sony fully reveals PS5, you will witness real momentum worldwide, hard-core or casual. Just you wait..... And please come back and say I told you so.....
Sony struggling and the race has not started? Sony is not in a hurry to get to the track meet, the race is 10 months away. Has MS nothing to do in the meantime? Sony racers are busy and will be busy playing LOU and TSUSHIMA, when they get to the track, they will Lap MS who was building fake hype to the two people in the stands 10 months ahead of race schedule. Sony will come in when the stadium is filled on race day. Wax MS like they always do and hear the crowd go roar and chant their name.
Lord help us all...but please help this man first.Oh if Sony doesn't reveal, something is wrong, it's the end of the world, Sony is doomed...….
Guess what, Sony will reveal at their own time, not on your time, theirs. Certainly not from pressure from mostly XBOX fans....PS will dominate next gen anyway, they can reveal 1 day before release and they will still win next gen...…..
Lots of lies. Lots of meltdown. No sense taking the time to refute when over half the post is a straight up lies. Luv it though. Glad GAF got rid of Tim and kept TLW and 20 bullshit insiders. Typical.No specs were revealed by MD, they only confirmed that they have 12TF, which they charged their distributors on YouTube and social media to propel and put out there and also told them to say Sony only has 9tf.....MS knows their numbers and we knew it too because of these social media distributors, what MS does not know is Sony's spec, so they try to lowball the PS5 number so Sony will respond, but Sony won't, this is a kindergarten game to try to elicit a response from the market leader, it won't work....
MS has done no reveal. We already knew the console was 12TF, we already knew it had BC...... Because MS distributors had already revealed that..... No YouTube personality at this point knows PS5's console spec because Sony does not leave its marketing to Sony fans on Social Media to say.... PS5 is 14TF and Series X is 8TF to build fake hype...When the PS5's spec is shown to not only higher than 9TF, but higher than 12TF, MS's reputation will sink even further than where it already is.....
Sony is still showing current PS owners why they choose them over and over again and why MS does not have a clue..... They are releasing several Goty's this year, for hardware that exists now, that can be bought now and they are showing unflinching support for that hardware with their best efforts in year 7. MS is known for short-lived hype parties, which every body regrets going to.... OG XBOX cut short, 360 was done by 2009, Xbone was done day 1, Xbonex was hyped and PRO outsells it like no tomorrow and ended up having the better framerates..... MS has already forgotten about the 2017 XBONEX fearless XBONES, whilst Sony still caters to the vanilla PS4... You know LOU 2, Tsushima and FF7 will look great on OG PS4.
That is how you build faith and trust. Sony fans are so relaxed, they know PS5 will be a juggernaut, more importantly, they know Sony will support their PS5 with Goty chest beating first party software from day 1 till the PS6 is ready to be revealed...... MS simply has no clue in this console race. If you have nothing you hype. If you are sitting on quality software+ hardware, you just wait for the right time to reveal, when it will completely incapacitate the competition. Sadly, since MS is the competition, Sony does not even have to do much, but we know that has never stopped them from giving their best software and hardware regardless.
With a 54% failure rate.....
I have 1 question, what did MS's reveal yesterday do for you? Are you now going to purchase a Series X, when you were not before?
It has done nothing clearly, that's why you are here trying your darn darndest to get a load of the market leader's goods, because deep down you know its what most people really want to know, will buy and are looking forward too..... MS had a reveal and what has come from it than MS's own fans asking about PS even more......
MS is building no momentum, the only momentum MS is building is within individual posts on Neogaf.... All the hype is contained within single posts... When Sony fully reveals PS5, you will witness real momentum worldwide, hard-core or casual. Just you wait..... And please come back and say I told you so.....
Sony struggling and the race has not started? Sony is not in a hurry to get to the track meet, the race is 10 months away. Has MS nothing to do in the meantime? Sony racers are busy and will be busy playing LOU and TSUSHIMA, when they get to the track, they will Lap MS who was building fake hype to the two people in the stands 10 months ahead of race schedule. Sony will come in when the stadium is filled on race day. Wax MS like they always do and hear the crowd go roar and chant their name.
Even if the hottest Sony rep gave me eternal blowjobs, I still wouldn't type out this trash.No specs were revealed by MD, they only confirmed that they have 12TF, which they charged their distributors on YouTube and social media to propel and put out there and also told them to say Sony only has 9tf.....MS knows their numbers and we knew it too because of these social media distributors, what MS does not know is Sony's spec, so they try to lowball the PS5 number so Sony will respond, but Sony won't, this is a kindergarten game to try to elicit a response from the market leader, it won't work....
MS has done no reveal. We already knew the console was 12TF, we already knew it had BC...... Because MS distributors had already revealed that..... No YouTube personality at this point knows PS5's console spec because Sony does not leave its marketing to Sony fans on Social Media to say.... PS5 is 14TF and Series X is 8TF to build fake hype...When the PS5's spec is shown to not only higher than 9TF, but higher than 12TF, MS's reputation will sink even further than where it already is.....
Sony is still showing current PS owners why they choose them over and over again and why MS does not have a clue..... They are releasing several Goty's this year, for hardware that exists now, that can be bought now and they are showing unflinching support for that hardware with their best efforts in year 7. MS is known for short-lived hype parties, which every body regrets going to.... OG XBOX cut short, 360 was done by 2009, Xbone was done day 1, Xbonex was hyped and PRO outsells it like no tomorrow and ended up having the better framerates..... MS has already forgotten about the 2017 XBONEX fearless XBONES, whilst Sony still caters to the vanilla PS4... You know LOU 2, Tsushima and FF7 will look great on OG PS4.
That is how you build faith and trust. Sony fans are so relaxed, they know PS5 will be a juggernaut, more importantly, they know Sony will support their PS5 with Goty chest beating first party software from day 1 till the PS6 is ready to be revealed...... MS simply has no clue in this console race. If you have nothing you hype. If you are sitting on quality software+ hardware, you just wait for the right time to reveal, when it will completely incapacitate the competition. Sadly, since MS is the competition, Sony does not even have to do much, but we know that has never stopped them from giving their best software and hardware regardless.
With a 54% failure rate.....
I have 1 question, what did MS's reveal yesterday do for you? Are you now going to purchase a Series X, when you were not before?
It has done nothing clearly, that's why you are here trying your darn darndest to get a load of the market leader's goods, because deep down you know its what most people really want to know, will buy and are looking forward too..... MS had a reveal and what has come from it than MS's own fans asking about PS even more......
MS is building no momentum, the only momentum MS is building is within individual posts on Neogaf.... All the hype is contained within single posts... When Sony fully reveals PS5, you will witness real momentum worldwide, hard-core or casual. Just you wait..... And please come back and say I told you so.....
Sony struggling and the race has not started? Sony is not in a hurry to get to the track meet, the race is 10 months away. Has MS nothing to do in the meantime? Sony racers are busy and will be busy playing LOU and TSUSHIMA, when they get to the track, they will Lap MS who was building fake hype to the two people in the stands 10 months ahead of race schedule. Sony will come in when the stadium is filled on race day. Wax MS like they always do and hear the crowd go roar and chant their name.
Frankly speaking, no one even thought 12 tf was even possible. I
Some AP99 level shit:No specs were revealed by MD, they only confirmed that they have 12TF, which they charged their distributors on YouTube and social media to propel and put out there and also told them to say Sony only has 9tf.....MS knows their numbers and we knew it too because of these social media distributors, what MS does not know is Sony's spec, so they try to lowball the PS5 number so Sony will respond, but Sony won't, this is a kindergarten game to try to elicit a response from the market leader, it won't work....
MS has done no reveal. We already knew the console was 12TF, we already knew it had BC...... Because MS distributors had already revealed that..... No YouTube personality at this point knows PS5's console spec because Sony does not leave its marketing to Sony fans on Social Media to say.... PS5 is 14TF and Series X is 8TF to build fake hype...When the PS5's spec is shown to not only higher than 9TF, but higher than 12TF, MS's reputation will sink even further than where it already is.....
Sony is still showing current PS owners why they choose them over and over again and why MS does not have a clue..... They are releasing several Goty's this year, for hardware that exists now, that can be bought now and they are showing unflinching support for that hardware with their best efforts in year 7. MS is known for short-lived hype parties, which every body regrets going to.... OG XBOX cut short, 360 was done by 2009, Xbone was done day 1, Xbonex was hyped and PRO outsells it like no tomorrow and ended up having the better framerates..... MS has already forgotten about the 2017 XBONEX fearless XBONES, whilst Sony still caters to the vanilla PS4... You know LOU 2, Tsushima and FF7 will look great on OG PS4.
That is how you build faith and trust. Sony fans are so relaxed, they know PS5 will be a juggernaut, more importantly, they know Sony will support their PS5 with Goty chest beating first party software from day 1 till the PS6 is ready to be revealed...... MS simply has no clue in this console race. If you have nothing you hype. If you are sitting on quality software+ hardware, you just wait for the right time to reveal, when it will completely incapacitate the competition. Sadly, since MS is the competition, Sony does not even have to do much, but we know that has never stopped them from giving their best software and hardware regardless.
With a 54% failure rate.....
I have 1 question, what did MS's reveal yesterday do for you? Are you now going to purchase a Series X, when you were not before?
It has done nothing clearly, that's why you are here trying your darn darndest to get a load of the market leader's goods, because deep down you know its what most people really want to know, will buy and are looking forward too..... MS had a reveal and what has come from it than MS's own fans asking about PS even more......
MS is building no momentum, the only momentum MS is building is within individual posts on Neogaf.... All the hype is contained within single posts... When Sony fully reveals PS5, you will witness real momentum worldwide, hard-core or casual. Just you wait..... And please come back and say I told you so.....
Sony struggling and the race has not started? Sony is not in a hurry to get to the track meet, the race is 10 months away. Has MS nothing to do in the meantime? Sony racers are busy and will be busy playing LOU and TSUSHIMA, when they get to the track, they will Lap MS who was building fake hype to the two people in the stands 10 months ahead of race schedule. Sony will come in when the stadium is filled on race day. Wax MS like they always do and hear the crowd go roar and chant their name.
Lots of lies. Lots of meltdown. No sense taking the time to refute when over half the post is a straight up lies. Luv it though. Glad GAF got rid of Tim and kept TLW and 20 bullshit insiders. Typical.
Weren't you leaving after you got destroyed for being called out on doing the same shit you are doing here?
Zero self-awareness. SAD.Weren't you leaving after you got destroyed for being called out on doing the same shit you are doing here? Your blatant console warring and sad trolling attempts will not go unremembered.
Realistically speaking I think Xbox needs 2 conclusive generation where they are stable or toe to toe with their competition to entice 2nd/3rd party.None of this matters until we see games. That is all that matters for a gaming console, the games.
i think that even a 2080ti can't sustain cyberpunk 4k60 frame with high details and ray tracing, not sure about the enhancement of the seX version tbh.I am expecting that patch to add 60 fps and raytracing, It's targeting 4K/30 on One X.
And the PS2 install base didn't help Sony with PS3 (from 150 million PS2 to 85 million PS3) nor did it help Microsoft (from 85 million 360 to less than 50 million XBO) or Nintendo (from 100 million Wii to 14 million Wii U). Looks like that base is completely irrelevant aside from defining your minimum sales.
So teraflops are the new bits, huh? This thread is funny. Just wait for Sony to announce things before declaring MS the winner.
I disagreed with mods reply because it was bullshit and asked in PM to be banned. No point in arguing with the people that run the site. Their rules, biased towards certain topics or not. They didnt want to ban me so blame them. I was told to stay in xbox threads. I've done my part. How about they usher TLW to only Sony threads?Weren't you leaving after you got destroyed for being called out on doing the same shit you are doing here? Your blatant console warring and sad trolling attempts will not go unremembered.
only if the machine is powerfull enough and they have some megaton for day one line up, just an event to present a 9tf machine and zero interesting games at launch is not gonna do any favor to them between hardcore gamers (casual don't even need an event or knowing the specs most probably because of loyalty to the brand)Well and if Sony made a plan to give info and reveal PS5 thought 2020... they are following that plan.
Why should they be defensive or offensive based on what others do?
Better why should they change the plans based in what the others do?
IMO MS is desperate to seek gamers attention something Sony never had to do.
Like I said before one Sony event revealing PS5 and all MS did up to now will mean nothing.
I am expecting that patch to add 60 fps and raytracing, It's targeting 4K/30 on One X.
i think that even a 2080ti can't sustain cyberpunk 4k60 frame with high details and ray tracing, not sure about the enhancement of the seX version tbh.
i onestly think that leaving aside real insiders, all the people who talked big in this forum was not really sure about 12tf...Do you even GAF?
It would be batshitcrazy if the 2nd prediction became true.
Consoles would be exciting again and not just from a graphical point of view.
LOL, he wrote that AFTER the MS XSeX reveal, when everyone was told it was 12 TF.Tommy Fisher said back in December XS is 12TF (turns out to be true), he also said PS5 is 13xx TF.
maybe he hates his wife and he was already searching an excuse to leave her?Jim Ryan fucked my wife - and that is a smart move.
After I got caught up in the misterx insider fiasco years ago, I learned that almost all insiders are full of shit, "verified" or not. All it takes is an honest look at what tech is available and will be available around the year of release. Then it's a matter of throwing as much at the dart board as possible to claim you was correct when there were 1000 other predictions made and goal posts moved with outlandish excuses. Dont believe any of them. As much as I like blue on twitter as a person, that is the best example of someone that knows modern tech and tries to piece it together, but its gambling because none of it is confirmed to have anything to do with consoles. There are many here that do this.He wrote that on this website in the thread when Microsoft revealed XSeX was 12 TF. LOL, He just made up a PS5 number that was a bit higher. I don't think he is any sort of insider, some random poster on NeoGaf.
i onestly think that leaving aside real insiders, all the people who talked big in this forum was not really sure about 12tf...
After I got caught up in the misterx insider fiasco years ago, I learned that almost all insiders are full of shit, "verified" or not. All it takes is an honest look at what tech is available and will be available around the year of release. Then it's a matter of throwing as much at the dart board as possible to claim you was correct when there were 1000 other predictions made and goal posts moved with outlandish excuses. Dont believe any of them. As much as I like blue on twitter as a person, that is the best example of someone that knows modern tech and tries to piece it together, but its gambling because none of it is confirmed to have anything to do with consoles. There are many here that do this.
There is no 9TFs machine... even the Github “leak” is an impossible configuration.only if the machine is powerfull enough and they have some megaton for day one line up, just an event to present a 9tf machine and zero interesting games at launch is not gonna do any favor to them between hardcore gamers (casual don't even need an event or knowing the specs most probably because of loyalty to the brand)
lolI agree it doesn't interest a lion when a dog barks
I agree it doesn't interest a lion when a dog barks
There is no 9TFs machine... even the Github “leak” is an impossible configuration.
Said that if it is $100 cheaper it will make Xbox One Series X talk until now into nothing even if it is a 9TFs machine.
If it is a 11-12TFs the MS will again be nothing.
Whatever Sony does will just play for their side no matter what MS does.
MS is trying but there is nothing actually can break the buzz and hype with PS5 reveal.
Sony is definitely in a win-win position in the gamers mind because they solid delivery every gen.
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You defiantly saying no 9tf machine? Have you inside info?
Why would they let negative press circulate? It’s not a good strategy...and I don't believe for a sec that PS5 is less than 10TF. IMO, it is an attempt to recreate "bombs" of 2013 by letting people believe it'll be 9tf and then come out and announce 12tf and look the hero role that they did it for their players. Only reason ps5 wouldn't be equal or greater than 12tf will be due to a pricing concern. Cerny already said "premium". That spells $499 ~ 12tf. I hope it turns out this way so the spec wars can fizzle. Would be great to see 2 beasts at their best in hardware.
Xbox isn't even competition at this point. Not even for Switch.