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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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LED Guy?

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None of this is concrete.

What exactly does “more powerful than rx 5700” mean?

Is he talking about performance, or on paper spec?

How much more powerful? We talking 9.8 GCN tflops or 12 RDNA tflops?

Saying they will be “more powerful than a 5700” is kinda the easiest prediction one can make. The last gen X was 6TF. At least 9.8 seems a given.



Like I said, you guys are absolutely fucking nuts 😂😂😂😂

I ain’t mad at you though man, keep your passion. A win for PlayStation is a win for warriors all over the world.
OK that’s your opinion that he’s vague, in my opinion he is concrete, more concrete than any of the fake insiders out there, insiders like Tom Warren saying “Microsoft wants to SURPRISE Sony this time” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

Farrell55

Banned
Yo LMAO!! His friend is a 3rd party developer developing a next-generation game, you honestly do not know what you’re talking about at all, you’re just spewing lies after lies and with every reply you make you get exposed by me, stop embarrassing yourself 😂😂😂😂

What he said is just proven factual but you don’t like it because it favors the PS5 🤣🤣🤣
Bingo 😁
 

MARTYWOLF

Member
Wel ur provided documents to the mod and they agree keep him around till reveal and if he is wrong then bye bye for him . No one gets immunity . What has nogorobomojohofo blue lol has shown that colt East wood and crew asks him about his expert opinion on ps5? Nothing just an extremely wild false fantasies .

btw TF got xsx spec 100% correct lol just saying

Bull Lore! Tommy Fisher got nothing right it was all public knowledge by time he said anything check the freaking dates
 
So all bunch of nothing? "From what I know..." So, not only 2nd source, but his own doesnt know.

Btw nobody has answered me how come his friend gave him next gen project from USB that he took from his workplace, with Klee describing everything in detail, and then in additon to that spec sheet for both consoles? Because he literally gave such a detailed look of a game that it would be breeze to find who took and show him footage.

Chances are, our alaskan guy is lying.

You missed the part where he said that he would rather say something new about XSX, but he can't. Surely he found out that XSX will have RDNA 2.0 TF???

It’s not anything negative


Hey, man! Look, it's a positive Xbox news from Klee. Please, BELIEVE HIM
 
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ethomaz

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Ill post camera pictures when I am back home just for you. What you are showing is test template of Arden in BC1 Oberon test. Numbers are still exactly same as PS4Pro BC, but text is pulled from Arden data (basically test name RT will have result 216GB/s) which makes 0 sense.

Again, as in case of PS3 wattage, I will be posting proofs until you can no longer ignore it.
I can show the inconsistencies with Arden and Sparkman too... the Xbox’s chips.

You were already death with PS3 wattage... loser.
 
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You or other fans saying this as it’s a personal win for yourself is the crazy part.

Never saw someone drinking a Pepsi and said to them “ha ha, coke dominates keep drinking your inferior soft drink”

That’s crazy talk. 😂
Okay now I'm going to agree with you here. There is no need to rub it in anyone's face that Sony has been the dominate force in console gaming. I definitely think people should respect each other here. Some people like RC Cola better than Pepsi, Seriously!
 

DaMonsta

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Guys think logically.

Why would a “spec sheet” for both consoles even exist in a capacity that it could make it to a guy like Klee?

Who’s just printing out sheets with both consoles final specs and passing them out?

Shits laughably ridiculous if you think about it.

But we believe it cause.....reasons
 

xool

Member
Chances are, our alaskan guy is lying.
Possibly he got the specs in Nov 2019, posted them, then deleted his post .. who knows what he saw. maybe he decided not to because legal trouble, maybe he realised part of his narrative had been wrong all along.. I dunno.

By late 2019, he was definately doubling down on "both more than 10tf" , "figures are RDNA", "no big perf. difference", and that the specs weren't the same as Oberon leak.

There's no reason for an identified (ex) journalist to lie like that - maybe there were some crossed wires, but he must have had something.
 
Since we have gone back to whole 9 vs 12 tf , i would like to remind u that ms keeps referring to their console as "our most powerful console " which is very differenf from x1x being called " the most powerful console ever created "before even ps4 pro was announced . Ms would not let 3 tf advantage go unnoticed if they had it .just like when they didnt allow the 1.8 tf advantage of x1x over pro go unnoticed.


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LED Guy?

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Hmm......just a thought that crossed my mind, what if Kleegamefan said Xbox Series X is more powerful than PlayStation 5? Hmm.... 🤔
 
It's possible that "native" refers to enhanced PS5 BC, IMO. Makes sense if they were already testing BC modes and no RT is in the tests. That's just my speculation.

In any case, this Github talk is tiring and it's annoying this forum keeps coming back to this. So that's all I'll say.
The crazy part is MS put out there specs now and people still aren't happy. Why is it so important for those leaks for them?
 

DaMonsta

Member
OK that’s your opinion that he’s vague, in my opinion he is concrete, more concrete than any of the fake insiders out there, insiders like Tom Warren saying “Microsoft wants to SURPRISE Sony this time” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No. This is not a matter of opinion.

“Xbox series x is 12TF” is a direct definitive statement with little to no room for interpretation

Xbox series x is more powerful than a 5700” is a vauge statement with much room for interpretation.

For example PS4 being 8tf RDNA would still make it “more powerful than a 5700”

But we know you don’t believe that right?
 
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Bull Lore! Tommy Fisher got nothing right it was all public knowledge by time he said anything check the freaking dates
He said weeks ago Microsoft purchased Techland. Dying Light 2 got delayed after the fact. If MS mentions they bought Techland at some point after Sony announces their new acquisition.. then Tommy was right all along.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Guys think logically.

Why would a “spec sheet” for both consoles even exist in a capacity that it could make it to a guy like Klee?

Who’s just printing out sheets with both consoles final specs and passing them out?

Shits laughably ridiculous if you think about it.

But we believe it cause.....reasons
Because he made the spec sheet based in what his inside contact said?

Remember me what exactly he said is wrong? Reasons lol
 
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LED Guy?

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No. This is not a matter of opinion.

“Xbox series x is 12TF” is a direct definitive statement with little to no room for interpretation

Xbox series x is more powerful than a 5700” is a vauge statement with much room for interpretation.

For example PS4 being 8tf RDNA would still make it “more powerful than a 5700”

But we know you don’t believe that right?
Nope he clearly stated both are double digits in RDNA meaning clearly that they're more powerful than RX 5700 XT.
 

hemo memo

Gold Member
Uhm it is not a personal win for me. It is a win for Sony and someone needs to get you delusional Xbox fans back to reality. Are you one of those who believe in 9TF Playstation? I don't keep track who of you believes what.

Here take some truth medication

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All the doom and gloom from analysts about the industry on 2013. Publishers were so scared that we got remasters the start of the gen and PS4 went to sell 100m+
 
No. This is not a matter of opinion.

“Xbox series x is 12TF” is a direct definitive statement with little to no room for interpretation

Xbox series x is more powerful than a 5700” is a vauge statement with much room for interpretation.

For example PS4 being 8tf RDNA would still make it “more powerful than a 5700”

But we know you don’t believe that right?
God you are draining. Why do you care about this? Why does it matter so much. You've stated your speculation. Move on and go play games. This is getting boring.
 
Nope, if insiders said GitHub was wrong, then it is wrong. I take verified insider info like Jason and Klee over out of context outdated info.
well, your a klee fanboy though :messenger_grinning_smiling:
Correction, insiders (klee/matt) said dont take the info too seriously. Not that it was wrong.
Actual factual data vs he said she said. Even in court you wouldn't stand a chance
 
Some of these individuals are the most vocal ones on social network, like blue TimDog, MisterXmedia, Dealer, Jez and so on. Bunch of these individuals are voices of Xbox community, some of their actions surely are remembered and recorded. Some of these fanatical individuals are supported by very members from here, ERA and surely across the globe. Oh, yes, so i can use these individuals as representatives of Xbox community just because they are supported by many, many people, also by Xbox execs.

Well, in terms of guys like TimDog, they do seem to like trolling on Twitter, but they do have some good perspectives on conversations from what I've seen as well. But that's one person. I don't even know who Jez is, and I dont keep up with MisterXmedia that much because, again, it's Twitter crap. Twitter in general is a cesspool. Dealer might rib PS fans at times but I've seen them talk positively of Sony and PS games on their streams as well, same with people like Boomstick. They have their preferences, but their digs at PS fans are usually those who show up in chats being intentionally toxic from what I've seen. Not really any different from PS guys like FoxyUK and MGB who call out Xbox fanboys who are toxic in their chats and comment sections. Nothing wrong with addressing fanboys when they're actually being toxic imho.

When you've got communities as large as Sony's or MS's, you're bound to have some people who don't always engage in the best behavior who nonetheless are pretty well-known to people. The fact they're rather well-known means that, yes, you're going to have individuals from Sony and MS who intercct with them from time to time, but that doesn't mean they condone the less savory behavior. It's just the way console fandoms are.

Do I WISH people as a whole were more mature about this stuff? Of course! But realistically I can never expect literally everyone in a fanbase to act to what I'd call an ideal standard, and it wouldn't be fair of me to do so, either. Which means it's unrealistic for me to punish an entire fanbase simply because of a few people in it who may act a fool at times, regardless how well-known they are. Because in any fanbase, for every person relatively well-known who acts a fool, you can name another one who doesn't, so why focus on the former time and time again?

And keep in mind some of us aren't even exclusively fans of one brand, but multiple ones. So for example, I like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo, all for many reasons. Some of those are similar, others are different, but I don't think I"m alone in saying that I'm overall a fan of all 3. In fact, the majority of gamers would say the same, perhaps having a slight preference for one or the other but not to the extent of outright disliking the other brand(s). So just because I'm here in this conversation between us standing up for the Xbox fanbase, don't mistake as me ONLY willing to stand up for them or as some attack against the Sony fanbase, because as already said I like a lot of Sony's stuff too.

I'm just against blatant generalizing and shaming of entire fanbases because of a few people in them, some of whom are probably misunderstood. Like here for example, I see a lot of people try dumping on SenjutsuSage SenjutsuSage , even calling them an Xbox shill or such, but that's not what I really see when I read their posts. He just seems like a guy who has a preference for the brand, but I don't see them outright attacking Sony or being toxic towards the brand and its fanbase. Or take someone like Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem , who's openly admitted to having a strong preference for Sony and PS. We might disagree on some things here and there but we agree on others, and I don't see him ever being toxic or outright negative towards Xbox or its fans. Yeah, maybe a few friendly jokes here or there, but there's nothing wrong with that (same with the other way around, too). I didn't mention them to imply there are Xbox people who go after them or anything (I'd hope not and if some have, they should stop), just illustrating how someone who might have a strong preference for a brand can be misinterpreted as being toxic towards the other, when that isn't always the case.

Hell, even I have been guilty of misunderstanding prominent people who prefer a certain brand. Foxy UK for instance, I don't think they've ever really been toxic or such, even if they definitely have a preference that leans Sony and PS. On the flipside, you now have pro-PS guys like CrapGamer who are pretty much the very definition of being a toxic fanboy....still wouldn't be fair to claim that's representative of the entire PS community now would it?
 

THE:MILKMAN

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Hmm......just a thought that crossed my mind, what if Kleegamefan said Xbox Series X is more powerful than PlayStation 5? Hmm.... 🤔

Hasn't he said they are so close it could go either way and wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft do a last minute clock bump?

The point is that he's saying they are very close. Ergo 9.2TF can't be true knowing 12TF is confirmed for XSX.

*Or* as R600 and others think...He has been full of it since last Summer and hoodwinked Re mods.

Right now I think (and hope) it is the former.
 

LED Guy?

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well, your a klee fanboy though :messenger_grinning_smiling:
Correction, insiders (klee/matt) said dont take the info too seriously. Not that it was wrong.
Actual factual data vs he said she said. Even in court you wouldn't stand a chance
The judge would say "uh this info is outdated and out of context"....
 
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JAMMA

Last warning for console wars
You or other fans saying this as it’s a personal win for yourself is the crazy part.

Never saw someone drinking a Pepsi and said to them “ha ha, coke dominates keep drinking your inferior soft drink”

That’s crazy talk. 😂
There was literally a space invaders like video game titled “Coke Wins!” Where you shoot at the letters spelling out “Pepsi”.
pepsi_2.png

By the way, Pepsi tastes way more refreshing than Coke. I’d easily say that Pepsi is at least 2.8TF superior to Coke. 👾🥤
 
Well, in terms of guys like TimDog, they do seem to like trolling on Twitter, but they do have some good perspectives on conversations from what I've seen as well. But that's one person. I don't even know who Jez is, and I dont keep up with MisterXmedia that much because, again, it's Twitter crap. Twitter in general is a cesspool. Dealer might rib PS fans at times but I've seen them talk positively of Sony and PS games on their streams as well, same with people like Boomstick. They have their preferences, but their digs at PS fans are usually those who show up in chats being intentionally toxic from what I've seen. Not really any different from PS guys like FoxyUK and MGB who call out Xbox fanboys who are toxic in their chats and comment sections. Nothing wrong with addressing fanboys when they're actually being toxic imho.

When you've got communities as large as Sony's or MS's, you're bound to have some people who don't always engage in the best behavior who nonetheless are pretty well-known to people. The fact they're rather well-known means that, yes, you're going to have individuals from Sony and MS who intercct with them from time to time, but that doesn't mean they condone the less savory behavior. It's just the way console fandoms are.

Do I WISH people as a whole were more mature about this stuff? Of course! But realistically I can never expect literally everyone in a fanbase to act to what I'd call an ideal standard, and it wouldn't be fair of me to do so, either. Which means it's unrealistic for me to punish an entire fanbase simply because of a few people in it who may act a fool at times, regardless how well-known they are. Because in any fanbase, for every person relatively well-known who acts a fool, you can name another one who doesn't, so why focus on the former time and time again?

And keep in mind some of us aren't even exclusively fans of one brand, but multiple ones. So for example, I like Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo, all for many reasons. Some of those are similar, others are different, but I don't think I"m alone in saying that I'm overall a fan of all 3. In fact, the majority of gamers would say the same, perhaps having a slight preference for one or the other but not to the extent of outright disliking the other brand(s). So just because I'm here in this conversation between us standing up for the Xbox fanbase, don't mistake as me ONLY willing to stand up for them or as some attack against the Sony fanbase, because as already said I like a lot of Sony's stuff too.

I'm just against blatant generalizing and shaming of entire fanbases because of a few people in them, some of whom are probably misunderstood. Like here for example, I see a lot of people try dumping on SenjutsuSage SenjutsuSage , even calling them an Xbox shill or such, but that's not what I really see when I read their posts. He just seems like a guy who has a preference for the brand, but I don't see them outright attacking Sony or being toxic towards the brand and its fanbase. Or take someone like Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem , who's openly admitted to having a strong preference for Sony and PS. We might disagree on some things here and there but we agree on others, and I don't see him ever being toxic or outright negative towards Xbox or its fans. Yeah, maybe a few friendly jokes here or there, but there's nothing wrong with that (same with the other way around, too). I didn't mention them to imply there are Xbox people who go after them or anything (I'd hope not and if some have, they should stop), just illustrating how someone who might have a strong preference for a brand can be misinterpreted as being toxic towards the other, when that isn't always the case.

Hell, even I have been guilty of misunderstanding prominent people who prefer a certain brand. Foxy UK for instance, I don't think they've ever really been toxic or such, even if they definitely have a preference that leans Sony and PS. On the flipside, you now have pro-PS guys like CrapGamer who are pretty much the very definition of being a toxic fanboy....still wouldn't be fair to claim that's representative of the entire PS community now would it?
You are so right! Love the post. Now let's pray the he started talk doesn't ensue
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
All I can say is for me first and foremost I am a Sony fan. PS5 will be day zero for me and actually if anything like PS4 and the Pro I will get mine several days early before retail launch.

That said I want Xbox to do well.

I want them pushing Sony to be at their best.

I have a beastly PC and will be buying a 3080ti at launch but if Xbox is far and away the better 3rd party platform I will buy that as well.

Pssst, they are closer then 9 vs 12 though I still have Xbox in the lead.

Late afternoon right before I go out to eat ramblings.

PS. I don't get the console wars.
 

DaMonsta

Member
Nope he clearly stated both are double digits in RDNA meaning clearly that they're more powerful than RX 5700 XT.
Nope. You are taking two separate vague posts, and creating one definitive statement out of it.

Just as I said you were doing when we started this convo
 

ethomaz

Banned
So Klee himself made the sheet?
I don’t know that is why there is a question mark.
You are saying something that have dozens of logical reasons to not have reason... not me.

And of course what exactly Klee said that is wrong?
 
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All I can say is for me first and foremost I am a Sony fan. PS5 will be day zero for me and actually if anything like PS4 and the Pro I will get mine several days early before retail launch.

That said I want Xbox to do well.

I want them pushing Sony to be at their best.

I have a beastly PC and will be buying a 3080ti at launch but if Xbox is far and away the better 3rd party platform I will buy that as well.

Pssst, they are closer then 9 vs 12 though I still have Xbox in the lead.

Late afternoon right before I go out to eat ramblings.

PS. I don't get the console wars.
Thank you sensei - they are so bored they cant be happy and need to spread this stupid ass github leak. Even if true its sooooo draining.
 

ethomaz

Banned
I don’t know either.

Shit don’t make sense to me. Can you make sense of it?
Yes. I give you even an example.

I don’t know if Klee or GitHub data will be true or not... GitHub data has inconsistencies in all tests even the Xbox chips test made no sense.

Klee until now is right but that can be just lucky guess.

PS5 specs will say who is right or not.
 
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