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[Roronoa Zoro]

I'm not sure if 2 was a joke but the idea of microsoft giving nintendo a 200 million budget to make the most badass zelda game would make me buy an xbox on day one. Though Nintendo developers might not want to work for a 'gaijin' company.... Not gonna happen anyway but it's a nice dream.

Would rather it be Sony and Nintendo. Nintendo owns handheld sales. Sony owns home consoles. They both have great exclusives to help fuel each other. It's a win win.

 

[Dante83]

Phil is like "that's all you got, sony?" He is smiling from ear to ear.

 

[lynux3]

Oh sorry. Let me fix the math for you.

PS5 - 9.2 (most of the time)
Xbox SeX - 12.2 (always)
-----------------------------------------
Xbox - 3.0 more tflops

www.mathsisfun.com

 

[Deeper Underground]

Sure, Sony developers might go for graphics over all other videogame attributes - whatever floats your boat. It's all gloss and no substance. Sony Developers can't service my needs - they don't do RTS, 4x Strategy or Shared World Experiences. The most mono-fucking-dimensional developer there is. Must be such a conundrum for you - 'Why, oh why can't these PC/Xbox users see the light and praise almighty Sony Developers'. Fuck outta here with the Sony Developers schtick.

lol Jesus Christ, he must have struck your little warrior nerve with that one huh?

 

[AGRacing]

The man is determined.

I’m beginning to think if it were up to him he’d match the PS5 pricing. I don’t know what kind of power he answers to over at Microsoft and what they’re expecting the hardware to make (or lose?) long term..... but this guy is out for blood.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

The man is determined.

I’m beginning to think if it were up to him he’d match the PS5 pricing. I don’t know what kind of power he answers to over at Microsoft and what they’re expecting the hardware to make (or lose?) long term..... but this guy is out for blood.

He only answers to Satya Nadella, the CEO.

He has complete freedom to do anything he wants if Satya says go.

 

[Tarkus98]

Oh sorry. Let me fix the math for you.

PS5 - 9.2 (most of the time)
Xbox SeX - 12.2 (always)
-----------------------------------------
Xbox - 3.0 more tflops

phew!! Thanks so much for clearing that up for everyone (well for me at least).
Here I (incorrectly) thought that Hobbygaming was referencing the power difference from a percentage perspective and not the raw computational flop numbers between the two consoles.

Oh, and jamming the absolutely 9.2 TFlops (most of time) down our collective throats for further clarification was also incredibly helpful.
To think all this time I have been referring to ps5 as a 10+ TFlop machine in discussions; now I feel foolish. At least going forward I can now speak intelligently about ps5 being a 9.2TFlop console with confidence in casual conversation.
Don’t know how that rat bastard Cerny can get away with his bullshit 10.3 claims, lying about SSD speeds. Ugh, I need to stop. Getting all upset that I now know all the truths. How the hell can he look at himself in the mirror and not want to spit on himself is beyond me.
Thanks again Hendricks, my brother for opening my eyes.... no, my world!

 

[Hendrick's]

Let me try math too.
1 xbox warrior + 1 playstation warrior = 2 miserable cunts

www.mathisfun.com

 

[I Love Rock 'n' Roll]

A PR is happy.






Okey. Wake me up when he does something x with his box.

 

[DForce]

Really?

PS4 - 1.84
Xbox One - 1.3
-------------------------
PS4 - 0.54 more tflops



PS5 - 10.28 (sometimes)
Xbox SeX - 12.2 (always)
-----------------------------------------
Xbox - mininmum 2.0 more tflops

10.2TF when needed. If you have any info that devs cannot use 10.2TF when needed, then I would like to see it.

 

[bigdawg69]

xbox shits out 10.2tf for dinner. thing is a monster.
edit 10.2* boossssted

 

[sendit]

Really?

PS4 - 1.84
Xbox One - 1.3
-------------------------
PS4 - 0.54 more tflops



PS5 - 10.28 (sometimes)
Xbox SeX - 12.2 (always)
-----------------------------------------
Xbox - mininmum 2.0 more tflops

Couldn't agree more. There is going to be a massive difference in graphical quality:

PS4:Xbone diff = ~%40

PS5:XSX diff = ~%18

PS5(hoping the PS5 downclocks to 9.2 Tflops):XSX(@12) diff = 31%

With a 31% difference if the PS5 can't sustain it's clocks. We are looking at a astronomical leap in terms of graphical fidelity. Look at what the Xbox One X achieved with only 6 teraflops:

Crackdown 3@Sustained 6 Teraflops (the glowing balls that pop out of a defeated enemy is borderline ray tracing at current gen hardware):


Infamous SS@Variable 1.84 Teraflops:

 

[Shmunter]

Pheew, that's a relief. Imagine he felt worse.

 

[Foamy]

The bottom right edge tells the different story...

Burn.

 

[ZehDon]

Well, he’s not going to say “Yeah, we fucked up” is he? Not that Xbox has made a mistake, they haven’t, but it’s worth remember the kinda spin Phil was tasked with pulling during the Always Online DRM fiasco. This is just PR, and not really indicative of anything.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Yeah, I’m sure having better hardware will help you lead sales. It’s not like the Xbox has ever been stronger than the Playstation and still got stomped. Oh wait.

Pretty much this.

Was never about the hardware. Reference past 30 years in this industry will tell you that much. Its not hard to understand its always came down to games and services.

PS4 and PS4 Pro are shit tier (build quality and cooling system too) but they continue to sell more because they have compelling software.

Xbox's problem is that they've relied far too much no a few key franchises. They have put huge focus on games now with new studios and expanding existing ones so it remains to be seen how they will cope this coming generation.

The problem Xbox has is that they're going into next gen with the momentum heavily favouring PlayStation and their 100+ million user base.

Well, he’s not going to say “Yeah, we fucked up” is he? Not that Xbox has made a mistake, they haven’t, but it’s worth remember the kinda spin Phil was tasked with pulling during the Always Online DRM fiasco. This is just PR, and not really indicative of anything.

Phil can say the sun has risen and there would be a thread about it.

Have no issues with the guy but threads are being made for the most obvious stuff and in this case there already is a thread about the interview so yeah

 

[eastwood333]

Yeah, I’m sure having better hardware will help you lead sales. It’s not like the Xbox has ever been stronger than the Playstation and still got stomped. Oh wait.

Nothing is more delightful than the obvious butthurt sony fanboy revert to sells when talking about the XSX power advantage. And PS, having the better multiplats sure helped the XB360

10.2TF when needed. If you have any info that devs cannot use 10.2TF when needed, then I would like to see it.

Devs want to use all a console is capable, so by your logic, devs will be pushing their games at 10.2tf 100% of the time at those skyrocketing clock speeds. We all know that's not going to be reality with out significant heating issues. It's why going with much more CU"s at lower clocks is the more powerful and sensible solution in regards to heating.

 

[eastwood333]

He probably wishes he knew about the PS5 SSD and all of the customization to help eliminate bottlenecks

Yeah, Phil's kicking himself over that PS5 3-5 second loading speed advantage

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Nothing is more delightful than the obvious butthurt sony fanboy side steop

Devs want to use all a console is capable, so by your logic, devs will be pushing their games at 10.2tf 100% of the time at those skyrocketing clock speeds. We all know that's not going to be reality with out significant heating issues. It's why going with much more CU"s at lower clocks is the more powerful and sensible solution in regards to heating.

Why is lower CU's and higher clocks not an option?

 

[Shmunter]

Quick new thread somebody. Chill Spencer is not a fan of ‘Secret Sauce’. proof PS5 is full of sauce goodness |OT|

 

[eastwood333]

Really?

PS4 - 1.84
Xbox One - 1.3
-------------------------
PS4 - 0.54 more tflops



PS5 - 10.28 (sometimes)
Xbox SeX - 12.2 (always)
-----------------------------------------
Xbox - mininmum 2.0 more tflops

Also,

Why is lower CU's and higher clocks not an option?

Less performance and more heat

 

[DeepEnigma]

Let me try math too.
1 xbox warrior + 1 playstation warrior = 2 miserable cunts

Great equation, would math again.

 

[Alphagear]

Phil better hope one of his studios makes a decent game cause specs alone wont save xbox.

 

[DForce]

Nothing is more delightful than the obvious butthurt sony fanboy revert to sells when talking about the XSX power advantage. And PS, having the better multiplats sure helped the XB360

Devs want to use all a console is capable, so by your logic, devs will be pushing their games at 10.2tf 100% of the time at those skyrocketing clock speeds. We all know that's not going to be reality with out significant heating issues. It's why going with much more CU"s at lower clocks is the more powerful and sensible solution in regards to heating.

Cerny pretty much said 10.2TF is there if devs want to use it.

Where is this info that it cannot happen?

 

[AGRacing]

HahAhaha that Crackdown Vs Infamous comparison is pretty amazing !

 

[joe_zazen]

Yeah, this is the first time i feel embarrassed for being here. Good job neu.

 

[Woo-Fu]

I'd feel better too knowing I'd made one less mistake this generation. Well, potentially one less mistake. Let's compare the pricing once we have it.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Glad Phil is so happy his console will deliver 100 more p's. I'm sure that will be a massive thing once third party comparisons roll around.

Kind of a weird thing to say that you feel "even better" about your decisions after a competitor reveals theirs. Seems like a pretty salty comment, honestly. How about you just say that you're happy with the decisions your team made. What does your competitor's product have anything to do with your own team's decisions? As if Sony made a different decision you somehow wouldn't feel better?

Just a weird thing to say when this amounts to the smallest console divide in history.

 

[Gavon West]

Lol yeah, I know the power difference is even less than this generation and that developers think PS5 is better in different areas

I Know, right? Them Sony devs sure know how to pull together. They damage control faster than the PS5 SSD!

 

[bigdawg69]

Glad Phil is so happy his console will deliver 100 more p's. I'm sure that will be a massive thing once third party comparisons roll around.

Kind of a weird thing to say that you feel "even better" about your decisions after a competitor reveals theirs. Seems like a pretty salty comment, honestly. How about you just say that you're happy with the decisions your team made. What does your competitor's product have anything to do with your own team's decisions? As if Sony made a different decision you somehow wouldn't feel better?

Just a weird thing to say when this amounts to the smallest console divide in history.

seems like he knows the sex is more powerful than the weak pss5. won't matter. sony will sell more. still will be a lot weaker. who plays 3rd party games anyways! I bet all the top sellers were sony published. lolloloolol

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

seems like he knows the sex is more powerful than the weak pss5. won't matter. sony will sell more. still will be a lot weaker. who plays 3rd party games anyways! I bet all the top sellers were sony published. lolloloolol

Hi Tim Dog

 

[bigdawg69]

Hi Tim Dog

Weak under powered ssd5. get over it buddy. WEAK. SEXBOX is more powerful.

 

[ZywyPL]

Can someone please photoshop Phil's face into Tom Cruise? I think it will be relevant in the near future many many times

 

[existensmaximum]

Great! Now make some fun, unique games that take advantage of all that power, just like you did with Xbox One X and see how it sells way more consoles than Sony! Because of all that power and all them console defining games!

Oh wait...

 

[bigdawg69]

Great! Now make some fun, unique games that take advantage of all that power, just like you did with Xbox One X and see how it sells way more consoles than Sony! Because of all that power and all them console defining games!

Oh wait...

sony will sell a lot more. doesn't mean they didnt turn out a weaker console.

 

[existensmaximum]

sony will sell a lot more. doesn't mean they didnt turn out a weaker console.

Of course! Who cares? It's like having an 18% bigger cock, but not scoring.

 

[bigdawg69]

Of course!

least ms was smart enough to throw their shit on pc. sony is so out of touch.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Now Xbox just needs two things:

1) Create more good IP’s.

2) Buy Sega

Edited for realism.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Oh sorry. Let me fix the math for you.

PS5 - 9.2 (most of the time)
Xbox SeX - 12.2 (always)
-----------------------------------------
Xbox - 3.0 more tflops

Joke post or trolling?

 

[existensmaximum]

least ms was smart enough to throw their shit on pc. sony is so out of touch.

Couldn't agree less

 

[Elenchus]

Phil better hope one of his studios makes a decent game cause specs alone wont save xbox.

It’s more like you better hope they don’t.

 

[bigdawg69]

Couldn't agree less

ah yes. restrict you to a console that is weak. that is good news! ms is fuckin nailin it out of the park. pc/console. sony is a walled 30fps garden so far.

 

[sinnergy]

Of course, XsX is technically superior in almost every way, but he’ll be disappointed after PS5 sales data comes in.

But that’s not what enthusiast forum poster care about ... they care about the experiences.

But the general outcome will be like that, MS will surely grow their market share.

 

[sinnergy]

Why is lower CU's and higher clocks not an option?

It is a option , but not a really smart one ..
It’s a option if you want to hit that 399 price point .

 

[Jon Neu]

Yeah, this is the first time i feel embarrassed for being here. Good job neu.

Well, that's strange coming from someone who had to act as the mouthpiece of it_wasnt_me because he was banned.

And that's only in the last 24 hours

Couldn't agree more. There is going to be a massive difference in graphical quality:

PS4:Xbone diff = ~%40

PS5:XSX diff = ~%18

PS5(hoping the PS5 downclocks to 9.2 Tflops):XSX(@12) diff = 31%

With a 31% difference if the PS5 can't sustain it's clocks. We are looking at a astronomical leap in terms of graphical fidelity. Look at what the Xbox One X achieved with only 6 teraflops:

Crackdown 3@Sustained 6 Teraflops (the glowing balls that pop out of a defeated enemy is borderline ray tracing at current gen hardware):


Infamous SS@Variable 1.84 Teraflops:

Funny comparing real gameplay with a scripted scene.

Also in no way is Crackdown a 6 teraflops game, it's made on a 1,3 teraflop machine.

 

[sendit]

Well, that's strange coming from someone who had to act as the mouthpiece of it_wasnt_me because he was banned.

And that's only in the last 24 hours



Funny comparing real gameplay with a scripted scene.

Also in no way is Crackdown a 6 teraflops game, it's made on a 1,3 teraflop machine.

Funny...that scene is directly from gameplay as a player ability called orbital drop. Additionally Crackdown 3 exploits the sustained 6 Teraflops of the Xbox One X by running at 4K. Please don’t insult the developers that poured their heart and souls in to that game.

Orbital drop gameplay at 1.84 Teraflops variable:

 

[Psykodad]

Precisely having a weak ass console as the Xbox One it's what made the Xbox brand fail this generation, throwing away all the hardwork and momentum gained with the Xbox and the Xbox 360. After the 360, they were in position to actually be capable to outsell Sony if they didn't fuck it up with the new console, but they did precisely that. They betrayed the Xbox philosophy, they got arrogant and greedy and paid the price.

Returning to what made the Xbox brand great in the first place is the right thing to do.
Thankfully seems like they have learned their lesson.

A year head-start and a cheaper console made the Xbox brand. That's about it.

 

[LMJ]

I think I would file this under a "well duh" lol

Im sure Phil was like "What's that, spec wise we're at a lead in nearly all metrics, we've shown the actual console and their (Sony) reveal was dry tech talk"?

 

[KaiserBecks]

Yeah, I’m sure having better hardware will help you lead sales. It’s not like the Xbox has ever been stronger than the Playstation and still got stomped. Oh wait.

Why would you as a consumer care more about which company gets better sales than getting a more powerful device for yourself? Oh wait.

 

[Psykodad]

Why would you as a consumer care more about which company gets better sales than getting a more powerful device for yourself? Oh wait.

Games go where the biggest marketshare-holder is.