No. That's not cool of you to play the victim to prove a point and accuse a group of people falsely like that. Not cool man. Not cool.
And I'll be bluntly honest with you here, this exact behaviour is precisely why I find *certain Xbox fans pathetic. This inferiority complex, playing the victim, spreading lies and false accusations really puts me off. You don't have to do that to prove a point. I just don't understand why this is prevalent among certain Xbox fans, especially now when they should be happy they have the upper hand in teraflops and have a very capable and nice device in XSX.
It's like no fun allowed for the competition. No wins allowed. It's all us. Nothing allowed for them. No!
So much hate blinds you from celebrating all the technological advances both are bringing nextgen.
(Yes I am fully aware certain fans of PS and Nintendo have their own complexes as well. Certain PS fans may come off as show offs and certain Nintendo fans may come off as manbabies. Though I'm not sure they downplay and hate the competition as much as certain Xbox fans do)
*Certain Xbox fans = trying my best not to use that certain word.
Uh... I don't see how anything I said is 'playing the victim'? Would someone saying that others are pretending the PS5 is 5TF, as an exaggeration of people saying 8TF or 9TF or whatever, be considered 'victim playing'? I don't think so. So what are we talking about here? And this is part of the problem. You can't call out this behavior on one side but you can from the other, and that is bollocks. This behavior you're talking about is prevalent among all competition. Sony vs Microsoft, AMD vs nVidia, Intel vs AMD, Forza vs GT, you name it. No one group has one specific behavior, and your specific targeting of so-called "Xbox fans" says a lot. If we were actually trying to understand the technology rather than both sides trying to brag and boast which one has the bigger e-peen, we would be able to get somewhere. And the issue is that someone neutral is dragged into it, and that is EXTREMELY frustrating. The majority of my posts are about understanding what is really happening and what we really know. I call out illogical conclusions, try to explain things, but for some reason that is seen as hating the PS5, or downplaying its SSD, or being an "Xbox fan". I get tired of this nonsense. I get this a lot less from the other side, ironically.
And if you want to see this as playing the victim again, go right ahead. Doesn't change the facts.
Looking at Sweeney discussion again he talks of no Draw Calls. This is interesting and needs to be explored. Is it because the geometry is essentially streamed from ssd directly to ram to be rendered with no cpu intervention?
Certainly sounds like it if Draw Calls are initiated by the CPU. Looking at the engine again, static geometry is discussed, again backing up Stream vs Cpu. Animating geometry would require Draw Calls. Thoughts?
Draw calls are key for the traditional rendering method. But so much has changed with Nanite, that we really cannot think of rendering in the same way. Draw calls are indeed done by the CPU. The whole DX12/Vulkan thing was focused on draw calls, where DX11 was basically trash at using the CPU for draw calls, and DX12/Vulkan are much more capable of leveraging the CPU. How Nanite works exactly right now is unclear. We have a lot of info, but some of the details are still unknown, and most likely will remain so for now. That's why developers themselves are baffled. I mean, rendering without draw calls is an immediate wtf.
As for animations, the girl in the demo is apparently still rendered the traditional way. Only the environments are rendered using the Nanite technology.
Bingo. This is largely what I think was meant with the 'scaled down' comment. Maybe other platforms can do all the same but not the 8k assets streamed in? Or maybe they can. We'll see as we get more information. That's the problem right now...we're all fumbling around in a dark room looking for the light switch and with only a half burned thru match to light the way!
Except they were specific that Nanite did away with LODs.