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Just so we're all clear you're full of shit. I'm good.I'm sure you do.
Just so we're all clear you're full of shit. I'm good.I'm sure you do.
So Jeff Buckley shouldn't get any credit for his version of 'Hallelujah'? Jimi Hendrix no credit for his version of Dylan's 'All Along the Watchtower'? Gary Jules for his version of 'Mad World'?It's not her song.
She's complaining that Naughty Dog didn't credit her cover of the original song even though it was 98% the same as the original with the addition of one lyric.
Naughty Dog already got permission from the original artist. Why is she complaining about a single lyric?
By your logic why the hell would I have to credit Thin Lizzy? They didn't write the song, just covered it.Whiskey in the Jar is, as you said, a traditional Irish folk song. Metallica don't own it. If anything you would need to credit Thin Lizzy, because Metallica just copied their arrangement of the song.
Go ahead. Of course you'd need permission from the original rights holder. Then, you'd have to wait for someone to cover your unique version.If that's the case I'm going to add one word or line to every song... it will be the same line for all of them (a three word sentence). Then I will own all those covers of songs and load them onto spotify etc.
When the words are actually humming or doo dooo dooo, I think that's pushing it...So Jeff Buckley shouldn't get any credit for his version of 'Hallelujah'? Jimi Hendrix no credit for his version of Dylan's 'All Along the Watchtower'? Gary Jules for his version of 'Mad World'?
Your being protective of ND to the point of stupidity.
So Jeff Buckley shouldn't get any credit for his version of 'Hallelujah'? Jimi Hendrix no credit for his version of Dylan's 'All Along the Watchtower'? Gary Jules for his version of 'Mad World'?
Your being protective of ND to the point of stupidity.
so if a youtuber takes another youtubers playthrough and includes it in their video thats fine??Ownership in regards to a cover of a cover.
so if a youtuber takes another youtubers playthrough and includes it in their video thats fine??
GIVE CREDIT WHEN YOU TAKE SOMEONES WORK, simple as that, no argument
They are not playing the person's cover, so your analogy does not apply here.
If her version is so unremarkable then why did they copy it? They obviously rated it more highly than you do.When the words are actually humming or doo dooo dooo, I think that's pushing it...
They have made a copy of her unique version. That particular version was created by her.
My point stands.
By your logic why the hell would I have to credit Thin Lizzy? They didn't write the song, just covered it.
Your argument is just ridiculous and self-contradicting.
No, it doesn't Your original point does not.
This is a derivative work, based on a derivative work.
So Jeff Buckley shouldn't get any credit for his version of 'Hallelujah'? Jimi Hendrix no credit for his version of Dylan's 'All Along the Watchtower'? Gary Jules for his version of 'Mad World'?
Ok wait, so Anna-Lynne Williams says that the part that's copied is a 3:30 in her song... So there's only one part of the ad that's similar to that part and... It's just pretty much humming to the the tune?
...So those "lyrics" she added are, and I quote "OHHHH OHHH OHHH AHHH HUMMM"... Like, is this shit actually serious?
Um, of course.No, no & no. Those are covers. Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan & Roland Orzabal get the songwriting credits, because they wrote the songs.
I'll have to agree with you on this, at the same time there was an edit made (which I assume was granted and agreed upon by the original singer/songwriter).Eh...it's a cover and they did get the original artists permission. Don't see how it's a big deal... it's not like she wrote the whole song, just added a line or something.
That's actually not how it works. You have to be able to prove that you added significantly to a work to get credit. A minor tweak isn't usually considered enough for a credit.Is a script is being written and somebody adds a line to the script they get a credit that’s how it works. They copied her version with the added lyrics and Humming in the same place which wasn’t in the original song.
Movies are full of improvisation without credit to the actors involved.
Um, of course.
I have never suggested that the person covering the work get sole credit. However if you subsequently cover a version that has unique features and you copy those features, then you should credit the person who added those features alongside the originator.
It's the ethical thing to do, surely that's obvious..
At first I though the exact same thing... I figured it was a joke thread, then I red the claim.Eh...it's a cover and they did get the original artists permission. Don't see how it's a big deal... it's not like she wrote the whole song, just added a line or something.
I agree with this as long as she isn't seeking compensation just recognition.Just wanted to clarify.
As a musician myself, I see it as good faith to say something like
Song X - Band X (cover by Y)
Doesn't mean I'm paying credits for a cover, but I'm crediting the cover artist for their work.
Yall can't just give this fucking game a break can you
Yes, she does. If they use her lyrics, she should be credited.
And I’m sure Naughty Soy and Cuckmann are coming with an apology the moment they saw it was a girl the one asking for credit.
Cuckmann is probably fighting with Sony managers as we speak.
I agree with this as long as she isn't seeking compensation just recognition.
How? Did she get the original artist permission to alter the song and publish it?
Didn't seem that she even contacted them privately she went straight to complaining... "heartbroken" wow.
otm. arrangements are a thing. this is why remixers exist. its how producers end up with songwriting credits.So Jeff Buckley shouldn't get any credit for his version of 'Hallelujah'? Jimi Hendrix no credit for his version of Dylan's 'All Along the Watchtower'? Gary Jules for his version of 'Mad World'?
Your being protective of ND to the point of stupidity.
You don’t have to get permission to make a cover. Famously weird AL knows he doesn’t need permission, but he asks anyway, and licenses music. If she wanted to distribute it, she would probably need a license. YouTube essentially has agreements with many major copyright holders where, whenever something is infringed, instead of needed legal action, YouTube agrees to just take videos down without a second question, or take away their earnings from the video. In this way, a YouTube cover actually gets around the laws of copyright. The problem with this is that it’s a system only major companies can use. They just flag a video and whatever they want happens. If a smaller person is targeted, all they can do is complain. If I straight up steal your video, there isn’t a ton you can do about it. Theoretically, if she can prove they used her work, which an edit of a song would absolutely be, she could have their YouTube page get a copyright strike and monetize the video. To achieve this she would need a team of lawyers and millions of dollars. You make fun of her for “complaining” showing you have no clue how the system works. It’s the only power consumer level people have on the platform.
Relevant video on copyright in general, and YouTube
"emotional attention" lol is this codeword for WOMAN CRAZY. if she wants to seek financial compensation for a giant million dollar company ripping off her arrangement that is entirely within her right. they are using this song to sell their game. "emotional attention" lol.I'm making fun of her complaining and drawing emotional attention
What is there to understand? Every derivative piece of art is separate entity with it's own copyright. To use that kind of piece of art you need to have agreements with both creator of original and derived work. It's same for covers of songs, translations and ony other derivative work.Not sure how that works out when its a cover and they gave. the original creator of the song credit. Sounds like someone trying to become relevant due to the fame the game will get.
A cover is not an 'original property' even if it is modified, by purchasing the rights to an original song you have the right to use any existing cover without asking for permission.
Definitely too far on saying thatWhat a stupid bitch.
You know, these type of stuff happens pretty often with Naughty Dog releases, you would think they would be extra careful by now.