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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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That's the thing. For PC gamers if the PS5's I/O pushes the PC vendors and Microsoft etc to fix all the limitations it will uplift current HW that they've spent a lot of money on for no benefit (like a Sata SSD > NVMe drive making virtually no difference in games). They should be pushing and complaining if anything! And thanking Sony in this case....
All this brings a very significant light of relevance to the console industry.
 

Neo Blaster

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So there's my MS Sony game mess
November 2020 :
15 - the bs event which contains exclusive indie developer's 2D next gen games which show ps5 capacity
20 - the bs event 2,0 Which represent first hand's on demo's for those 2d games
25 - ps5 release day event with very big surprise that it will actually lunch with 2 2d games 😳
December
10 - Sony fun day event : a live show of full party in sony head office to celebrate that all world problems solved because of Sony decisions
20 - Jim Ryan secret event , which show top secret game developed by all of 15 Sony studio's , my sources told me that game is a comic's style game which take full advantage of ps5 hardware & controller , by the way that game intial name is Jim Ryan big a!!
My sources at Sony marketing team told me much more informations but I will tell you guys more information in next couple months 😉
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sircaw

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It's been rare for consoles to be on top in specs so I guess it caught Linus offguard, including so many others who may or may not admit it come the following years.

Most of this unfortunately comes from the fact that pc gamer's can throw large amounts of cash at building a pc.

Having the means to purchase the best of the best creates a sense of personal entitlement and anything that challenges that must be frowned upon.

This next generation of consoles will be superseded in time but for the foreseeable future they will be state of the art marvel machines.

Top quality gaming has never been better or more affordable for the masses but there are some who hate that idea.
 
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SSfox

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That would be really dissapoiting if that's the case

Why remaster Bloodborne when PS5 is BC? And the game isn't that crazy old.

Where is the Demon's Souls Remake that people actually want and Bluepoint been teasing this whole time?

The only thing that may make this thing look good is an announcement of a Bloodborne sequel, but even then it would still be nonsensical since PS5 is BC with PS4!!!

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Handy Fake

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That would be really dissapoiting if that's the case

Why remaster Bloodborne when PS5 is BC? And the game isn't that crazy old.

Where is the Demon's Souls Remake that people actually want and Bluepoint been teasing this whole time?

The only thing that may make this thing look good is an announcement of a Bloodborne sequel, but even then it would still be nonsensical since PS5 is BC with PS4!!!

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I'd still play a Bluepoint remaster mind.
Those chaps and chapettes are wizards.
 
Unblocked, liked, reblocked. Just not a fan of the channel in general, but owning a fuck up is commendable.

As for the "concern" of PlayStation games all ending up on PC; maybe it can happen to older PS4 stuff, but if PS5 exclusives are heavily leaning on its IO, it will be years before the average gaming PC will be able to run them.
Is okay if you don't like it.

Regarding the games yeah but not exactly, I believe the PS5 could be not possible in that level in current PC but I want to see first which technologies will
bring Ampere, because AMD will improve with RDNA 2 I am still sure Ampere will be above them and maybe both adopt some way to communicate with SSD.

But let's see what happens.
Does the PS5's faster SSD matter as much as you think?


Why still surprise with someone using a IP of Xbox as profile picture just quote a video or a tweet without understand the subject.

The logics of all the video is this one "Any NVME can stream data faster than take to a GPU to render it so doesn't matter if the SSD is faster" if you think is true.... oh my good
please go and tell to all companies which make GDDR6 is not needed it, as is enough with just 2.4 GB/s not those 500 GB/s or more.

Really you should stop that "copy-paste" everything you see without have an idea of what are you talking about.
 


That would be really dissapoiting if that's the case

Why remaster Bloodborne when PS5 is BC? And the game isn't that crazy old.

Where is the Demon's Souls Remake that people actually want and Bluepoint been teasing this whole time?

The only thing that may make this thing look good is an announcement of a Bloodborne sequel, but even then it would still be nonsensical since PS5 is BC with PS4!!!

1583057110.jpg


Lot of people wanted a a Pro patch for it, probably most requested game for a Pro patch that I saw anyway. Never got one.

It would sell like hotcakes with a PS5 port, IMO. Eliminate most of the loading times, sharpen the image, offer 60fps and proper frame pacing. Super noice
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Phil spencer doing the same thing but in Borat Mankini.
Jesus the thought of that actually makes me feel unwell lol.

Someone should do a meme of that that as i recall his costume was green, perfect for an xbox logo and stick that picture of Amanda with the ps4 chest bit. Stick that in the xbox memes area, i am sure it will go down well.

Looking at you Bo :messenger_beaming:

You know I can't refuse your embarrassing request, here:

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hemo memo

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That would be really dissapoiting if that's the case

Why remaster Bloodborne when PS5 is BC? And the game isn't that crazy old.

Where is the Demon's Souls Remake that people actually want and Bluepoint been teasing this whole time?

The only thing that may make this thing look good is an announcement of a Bloodborne sequel, but even then it would still be nonsensical since PS5 is BC with PS4!!!

1583057110.jpg


Pretty much. Cerny talked about the effort put into backward compatibility for PS5 but now they’ll show a remaster? Really?
 

bitbydeath

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Bloodborne is easily in my top 5 games on this gen, already played it a bunch, i don't see any interest to rebuy and replay the same game with higher fps and res, specially since PS5 BC is supposed to be able to do that.

Maybe they’ll bundle a bunch of them together remastered otherwise I just don’t see the value.
 
Backwards compatibility means being able to play a PS4 game on a PS5. Boost mode means that PS4 game will use PS5's CPU and GPU clocks providing that doesn't break the game, which could lead to better frame-rates etc.

Backwards compatibility doesn't mean a remaster that has had new studio time devoted to it by adding better textures, models and QoL improvements and specifically made for PS5 should be included for free as some kind of patch for a game that was compiled for a different hardware and SDK.

Boost mode may unlock frame-rates and potentially keep resolution high if it previously used adaptive resolution, but it's not going to start upgrading player models and making changes to the game. It's still your PS4 game from before.
 

travisktl

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That would be really dissapoiting if that's the case

Why remaster Bloodborne when PS5 is BC? And the game isn't that crazy old.

Where is the Demon's Souls Remake that people actually want and Bluepoint been teasing this whole time?

The only thing that may make this thing look good is an announcement of a Bloodborne sequel, but even then it would still be nonsensical since PS5 is BC with PS4!!!

1583057110.jpg

This doesn't necessarily mean that Demon's Souls isn't coming as well. They called whatever they're working on a "reimagining", which insinuates whatever they're working on is built from the ground up and changed a bit in ways. As you said, Bloodborne isn't old, so a remaster probably didn't take them as near as much time to do.
 

hemo memo

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Backwards compatibility means being able to play a PS4 game on a PS5. Boost mode means that PS4 game will use PS5's CPU and GPU clocks providing that doesn't break the game, which could lead to better frame-rates etc.

Backwards compatibility doesn't mean a remaster that has had new studio time devoted to it by adding better textures, models and QoL improvements and specifically made for PS5 should be included for free as some kind of patch for a game that was compiled for a different hardware and SDK.

Boost mode may unlock frame-rates and potentially keep resolution high if it previously used adaptive resolution, but it's not going to start upgrading player models and making changes to the game. It's still your PS4 game from before.

But why show it in the event? It defeats the purpose especially when Jim talked about a new generation showing new games.
 

Brudda26

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That would be really dissapoiting if that's the case

Why remaster Bloodborne when PS5 is BC? And the game isn't that crazy old.

Where is the Demon's Souls Remake that people actually want and Bluepoint been teasing this whole time?

The only thing that may make this thing look good is an announcement of a Bloodborne sequel, but even then it would still be nonsensical since PS5 is BC with PS4!!!

1583057110.jpg

Yes they have BC but it will still essentially be a PS4 game. Even with a patch it will have to use that same engine pipeline etc it would just be bloodborne at 4k 60fps etc it's why remakes and remastered games will be here to stay for PC and both consoles. Retooling a game for PS5 to take advantage of it and improve more than just res and fps is going to offer way more than just a patch ever would. It's going to be a new engine. Yes MS is doing some things via emulation to improve a little further but it's still going to be the same game at its heart eith that engines limitations.
 
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SSfox

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Lot of people wanted a a Pro patch for it, probably most requested game for a Pro patch that I saw anyway. Never got one.

It would sell like hotcakes with a PS5 port, IMO. Eliminate most of the loading times, sharpen the image, offer 60fps and proper frame pacing. Super noice

So what's the point of PS5 being PS4 BC?

This should been an update then. If they're gonna do a remaster at least make it like SOTC where there is an actual graphic upgrade and not just res, fps patch.


We don't know for sure how much BC will be able to improve things by itself though, do we?

We already know that TLOU2 will run perfectly in PS5, so if that's the case, why Bloodborne that was release on 2015 can't also run perfectly on PS5?

Unless it's a true remaster/remake ala Shadow of the Colossus i'm not seeing the point of this supposed Bloodborne remaster.
 
But why show it in the event? It defeats the purpose especially when Jim talked about a new generation showing new games.

Defeats the purpose? Maybe I'm just not looking into things as much as some, but all I was expecting from the event was a display of some PS5 games. I don't know why this and the idea that next-gen remasters aren't somehow free upgrades is soiling so many pants.

Boost mode does not change the game binary or its assets. The very best it can do is stabilise frame-rates and get the best out of any dynamic resolution scaling that was being used.
 

hemo memo

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Defeats the purpose? Maybe I'm just not looking into things as much as some, but all I was expecting from the event was a display of some PS5 games. I don't know why this and the idea that next-gen remasters aren't somehow free upgrades is soiling so many pants.

Boost mode does not change the game binary or its assets. The very best it can do is stabilise frame-rates and get the best out of any dynamic resolution scaling that was being used.

Yes display PS5 games for the new hardware. It’s not the place for a remaster of an old PS4 game.
 
Yes display PS5 games for the new hardware. It’s not the place for a remaster of an old PS4 game.

It's a PS5 game, though. And you're saying this as if this is all they're going to show? I just don't get the outrage, sorry. If a PS4 games reveal showed us a load of new PS4 games and then slipped TLoU:R in there I'd have been very happy to see that.
 

Md Ray

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The video was the right move. For a multitude of reasons. I thought it was a decent apology, but im not the one who got wronged. So what do I know :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:

Im glad he did though, hopefully that'll get people from Tim's back.
There were a lot of misconceptions among PC-players, some of them were so hostile towards Mr. Sweeney. Hopefully, this video put some sense into them.
 

SSfox

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SSfox SSfox If BB Remaster in on PS5 is similar to how TLOU:R was handled then I’m all for it. This isn’t unprecedented


Sure

But PS4 wasn't BC, while PS5 is, that's the difference

Yes they have BC but it will still essentially be a PS4 game. Even with a patch it will have to use that same engine pipeline etc it would just be bloodborne at 4k 60fps etc it's why remakes and remastered games will be here to stay for PC and both consoles. Retooling a game for PS5 to take advantage of it and improve more than just res and fps is going to offer way more than just a patch ever would. It's going to be a new engine. Yes MS is doing some things via emulation to improve a little further but it's still going to be the same game at its heart eith that engines limitations.

Again if it's gonna be just a res, fps update it be meh tbh, thing should just be a free update.

But if they would add some new stuffs, and with new graphics (ala SOTC), now that would be worth it (there were some levels found in datamining that didn't make it in the final product for whatever reason , not expecting things but just saying)
 

hemo memo

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It's a PS5 game, though. And you're saying this as if this is all they're going to show? I just don't get the outrage, sorry. If a PS4 games reveal showed us a load of new PS4 games and then slipped TLoU:R in there I'd have been very happy to see that.

It’s a remaster from Bluepoint and that’s all what they do. It’s not even from the original team are you kidding? It has no place in the reveal.

Edit: Unless they show it with Bloodborne 2 which make sense.
 
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coolmast3r

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That would be really dissapoiting if that's the case

Why remaster Bloodborne when PS5 is BC? And the game isn't that crazy old.

Where is the Demon's Souls Remake that people actually want and Bluepoint been teasing this whole time?

The only thing that may make this thing look good is an announcement of a Bloodborne sequel, but even then it would still be nonsensical since PS5 is BC with PS4!!!

1583057110.jpg

IKR. If this "big" Bluepoint game is actually Bloodborne Remastered I'm going to be very disappointed. IMO, I'd use the team's talent for games that actually require proper remaking/remastering. Bloodborne does not require such treatment. Seeing how one amateur person can implement 60FPS in it makes me think it'd be very easy to make it 4K60 on PS5 via a patch and call it a day. Demon's Souls on the other hand...
 
It’s a remaster from Bluepoint and that’s all what they do. It’s not even from the original team are you kidding? It has no place in the reveal.

I can't believe they might be putting a PS5 remastered version of a very popular PS4 game in a reveal of PS5 games and forcing people to buy it, even though they might already have the original version without the changes on PS4. Am I outraging right?
 

sircaw

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That would be really dissapoiting if that's the case

Why remaster Bloodborne when PS5 is BC? And the game isn't that crazy old.

Where is the Demon's Souls Remake that people actually want and Bluepoint been teasing this whole time?

The only thing that may make this thing look good is an announcement of a Bloodborne sequel, but even then it would still be nonsensical since PS5 is BC with PS4!!!

1583057110.jpg


I hope there is a remaster but along side a demons souls game.
Also would they expect people to pay for it that already owned the ps4 game.

I just can't see this happening.
 
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