TALK THAT SHIT, KING!At Sony's event there were 2 games where you could play as a male. HitMAN and SpiderMAN. I've given up on western games. You guys can play Kat Lady Karen in Space or Generic Sassy Black Fro Women #378192 but that ain't for me.
Oooofff come back with that statement after tloup2 releases next weekSo, I took the time to make a list of all protagonists in PS5 reveal games based on sex and race if and when possible.
Males 10 (4 white, 4 black, 1 Asian, 1 undefined)
Females 6 (they were all whitish, light skinned or in one case otherworldly)
Cars 2
Animals/monsters 4
A doll 1
Robots 1
Undefined 3
My take on this is that it’s not all doom and gloom and games that really go off the deep end like BFV can face tremendous backlash that will affect their sales and perhaps even more importantly image of the brand for the future. And keep in mind, many of these games are going to end up being indie shovelware like usual. I really don’t believe games with female protagonists sell as well as games with male protagonist for the simple fact that vast majority of AAA gamers are male. How did it work for Control, for example?
But anyway, these games are really secondary to new CoD, FIFA, Ass Creed and other major multiplats that will sell new hardware. This is always the case. Just look at what Modern Warfare is doing since launch sales wise. And those games will stay firmly in dudebro male category.
Before I start I want to point out that I'm merely stating my opinion and I'll gladly listen to/discus with people who think otherwise.
After the last Sony event I had mixed feelings. While there were definitely good looking games, others raised questions to me and not in a good games.
We already saw in the current gen more and more companies try to score woke points by pandering to our purple haired friends at Resetera. While we all remember the battlefield V-drama also other companies believed that pandering translated into more sales. Examples were animal crossing, rage 2, dishonored, Wolfenstein.
While you'd think that companies learn from this, the wokeness not only does not stop, they even seem to go further.
Games in general reaches people of all ages and are thus a great medium to sell a political agenda. Without throwing oil again on the The Last of Us 2-fire, the developer clearly stated that the game would be inspired by his personal politics.
Even during game conventions a forum is given to parties that strive for diversity, political correctness and censorship in video games. I believe this is a dangerous trend as it means that developers who threw years of finances and talent into a game can face backlash simply for not meeting representation quota for a specific community. For example Days gone was review bombed by individuals because it was too white focused with two white protagonists. I fear now this will encourage other developers even more to get on the woke train because they could potentially lose profit for simplu not being inclusive enough, even if it doesn't benefits the goal of the game.
As someone who has been a Playstation fan all my life I fear even the most for Sony. The western headquarters lie in San Mateo, California which is a very leftist orientated state. So for them representation is a very important topic and I reckon it will stay so. In Hollywood they are currently working in such a way that you have to meet a certain inclusiveness quota to be eliglible for an Oscar nomination so I wouldn't be surprised if this practice would be copied to the gaming industry.
Sony had already shown disturbing signs of censorship. Removing cleavage from female npc's, making women less feminine because they might offend the trans players etc
The reason I believe this will only worsen is because the people they try to pander with wokeness will A) never play the game anyway . B) can never be satisfied. Even one of the games during the last event is facing backlash because of certain racial stereotypes. They don't seem to realize you can't win with these people. They'll just keep try to please them and and revenue lost will simply be linked to bigotry/sexism/racism or any kind of buzzword.
While I have no problem with certain inclusiveness as long it benefits the story or gameplay I believe this is rarely the case. While I'll admit that I am more right leaning I would be equally displeased with games that would be inspired by right politics.
For me games are fun escapes of reality where I'd like to forget social issues for a few hours and just enjoy a game which shows the developers creativity and which is not used as a Trojan horse for a political agenda. I am certainly not saying developers can't implement their personal politics because that would also be a sort of censorship and I support developer creativity as long it doesn't involve illegal activities (like the developer of the Volcano high game). I can simply chose not to play the game and hope others still enjoy it nevertheless.
As much as I love gaming I'm afraid this could be a determening factor for me to stop gaming or at least go retro.
So what is your opinion on this fellow gaffers. How do you feel about personal politics in games, are you indifferent about censorship and how high do you rate representation in games.
No the woke crowd is Twitter and they make sure that dissenting views are off limit.This scenario needs a third group though: people alone, unemployed, angry, bitter, jealous, posting woke BS on Twitter.
So the woke don't like fat people? Because this is how they represent the "bad" people in their cartoons.
That's BS! - here is a quick gender spread from the PS5 reveal event.At Sony's event there were 2 games where you could play as a male. HitMAN and SpiderMAN. I've given up on western games. You guys can play Kat Lady Karen in Space or Generic Sassy Black Fro Women #378192 but that ain't for me.
This is the original memeNo the woke cro
So the woke don't like fat people? Because this is how they represent the "bad" people in their cartoons.
Cant edit my posts but Demon's Souls allows Female character if I'm not mistaken.That's BS! - here is a quick gender spread from the PS5 reveal event.
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You wish they were asleep, because they make the world a nightmare for the rest of us.The West of today is a twisted world where those who call themselves as "woke" are actually fast asleep.
Marxism is Great for a Designer, that view is the most twisted view someone can present, Marxism does not allow for freedom of thought, nor does it allow one to live of off their creations.
such an irony, you guys and era is just the opposite side of mirror, there's no neutrality or in between
Some of you guys are really complaining about having female protagonists in video games.
We do really living a blessed time.
You believe there are absolutely no situations/events that vigorously demand a definitive decision which side of the fence you're on? You do believe that fate never calls for that leap of faith, to choose a side which you believe is the right one? That there are no states of exception in this world? Yes, I do believe there are times when all of us have to decide what we believe is right and wrong. It seems the era ppl think this state is permanent, which I don't. Tells you a lot about them. They're at war with something. Maybe that something is something you wouldn't want to die?
Definition of woke on GAF = A woman or a minority in the lead role.
Thats great thats not you but theres a good amount of people on gaf who do think that, least you're not in that pileSome of my favorite games have female protagonists, but thanks for labeling us and adding absolutely nothing to the conversation. By the way, i believe you meant to type resetera for the URL.
When talking about this you first need to separate physical sex, what your chromosomes code for, and then you have, gender, what you feel/identify as. Cis is basically that the gender you identify as is the same as you physical sex. A trans person might identify as a Woman but was born a physical man. Able bodied I have no clue, if I had to guess they mean strong and healthy looking.What is a white cis gender able bodied man? Did I miss something growing up, or am I just sane?
If those "definitive decision" you take involves wishing companies loss for their creative input (that some of you blindly label it as toxic or poisonous because they include ugly LGBTQ+ characters) and also wanting to strike them further because their view isn't aligned with yours, then you are no better than resetera people, and this also applies to some users here that disguise themselves as "logically moderate" but also couldn't accept difference in the developers creative input for fictive works.
hypocrisy at it finest
and a F*RRY Fox missed in action by jumping between timegates, to be replaced by a female F*RRY FOX.
we are f*ked.
Just a heterosexual white male, honestly no matter the race or gender just give me a well written character with depth, but i do want more minority and female characters overall in games.What is a white cis gender able bodied man? Did I miss something growing up, or am I just sane?
That is still too able bodied to be diverse enoughI hope next God of War has Kratos in a wheelchair.
You don't like censorship but you want to censor a developers creative freedom when it comes to how they want to make a game involving story, characters etc.... pick a side already, fuck.
plus it's hilarious when it comes talking about censoring is only about tits and ass, cant take your arguments seriously at all lol
Definition of woke on GAF = A woman or a minority in the lead role.
VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET.
You can say that all you want but half your post was a stance against it and developers putting in their politics, pick a fucking side you dense mother fucker, either be for censorship or be against it. Im Tired of the fence sitting esp when majaority of your post was ripping devs for doing what they want and heading a warning of "wokeness"I literally said: I am certainly not saying developers can't implement their personal politics because that would also be a sort of censorship and I support developer creativity as long it doesn't involve illegal activities (like the developer of the Volcano high game). I can simply chose not to play the game and hope others still enjoy it nevertheless.
You didn't even bother to read the entire post, but also have no problem in screeching your opinion. Pretty sure that makes you the one who won't be taken seriously.
About the censorship, I think one example pretty much already demonstrates my point but this also includes censorship of blood, Gore and dismemberment. Hope you're satisfied.
More manbaby crying. Boo Hoo someone who wrote a story inserted elements of their beliefs into it and I can't get past my hatred for all people who think like that so I need to cry about it. That's what I see here. That and cherry picking a few anecdotes to make it look like the red scare.
If you want a game that isn't political play one that doesn't have a story or is story light. Or maybe you could try to respect other's views and not feel threatened by them. I know that one is as stretch.
I am curious what these whiners really want. Is it story that is about killing evil antifa libtards or something? Or is it just offensive that the main character is not a white male? Mario is a white male and doesn't appear to be a socialist.
If you hate all these people and their creations so much maybe you need to show them how it is done and make a good game that isn't poisoned by wokeness.
You can say that all you want but half your post was a stance against it and developers putting in their politics, pick a fucking side you dense mother fucker, either be for censorship or be against it. Im Tired of the fence sitting esp when majaority of your post was ripping devs for doing what they want and heading a warning of "wokeness"
old men yelling at clouds seriously
I HAVE PROBLEM WITH THING!!!
Get woke go broke is a stupid statment, and has been proven to be false time and time again.
Those who scream "vote with your wallet" are also wrong, because they think that they are a majority
or that their internet/twitter screching is going to change anything.
If you want to make a "traditional values" game go make one yourselves, like you told Anita and her ilk to do back in 2014.