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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Bo_Hazem

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They look great, but offline rendering still has a big advantage in IQ. They can completely eliminate aliasing, and use models with pretty much infinitely high geometry.

That's why I made the youtube screenshots as well, although both being somehow unfair, the youtube video being more than 4x compressed and the direct feed from the console itself without interaction with the screen.

But here, screenshots I made now from youtube which is at least 4x or more worse than what you will see in the console:

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There is a shadow glitch here, it's a pre-alpha build after all, but look at the distant buildings and how clean and sharp they are

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Youtube and videos are crap usually with lots of details lost in the slightest movement with particles. But it's very, very close to those direct screenshots from the console.
 
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saintjules

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Not sure if already posted. So they plan to have other colors. The question is will they have a black version at launch as well.


The tall, “reverse-oreo” design certainly looks futuristic, almost as if it has come straight out of a game. Although, Ryan says that the white-black-white combination is only one of the many color schemes in which PS5 will gradually be available.

As for the compatibility of the old disks, Ryan says that PS5 is designed to play PS4 games. He added that

“We’re going through the process with the publishers and developers testing that rather exhaustive library of over 4,000 games. We’re happy with the progress that’s been made .”

As for the prices, Ryan refused to talk about it, and whether the digital one will be cheaper than the standard variant. Although, he did say that the production line is still on, despite the global pandemic situation. Amidst the current economic condition worldwide, Playstation and Sony have been working with retailers to make sure the buyers have a smooth preorder process.

Edit: Seems the article I pointed to got its information from this site

https://www.cnet.com/news/sonys-ps5-design-is-bold-daring-and-future-facing-playstation-ceo-says/
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Not sure if already posted. So they plan to have other colors. The question is will they have a black version at launch as well.


Sad that I'll get one day one, won't wait for my black and red version:lollipop_crying:

But amazing news! Would love to see the white covers being replaceable instead of just buying the whole console.
 

sircaw

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I watched Nx gamers latest video last night while lying in bed and i marvelled at how beautiful some of those games are on ps5.

That stream the other night did such a disservice to those games it's unbelievable what i missed.
The details, the colours, some of those games are like living art.
The picture with the crabs on the beach and all those bits of sand or the scene with Aloy swimming between all the kelp beds, possibly some of the best images i have ever seen from a game.

anyone that has not watched the video's again in 4k, do so. Next gen is so unbelievable
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
I watched Nx gamers latest video last night while lying in bed and i marvelled at how beautiful some of those games are on ps5.

That stream the other night did such a disservice to those games it's unbelievable what i missed.
The details, the colours, some of those games are like living art.
The picture with the crabs on the beach and all those bits of sand or the scene with Aloy swimming between all the kelp beds, possibly some of the best images i have ever seen from a game.

anyone that has not watched the video's again in 4k, do so. Next gen is so unbelievable

That's why I did those 4K screenshots of the videos, some might not seem convinced about 4K TV's, but they can easily see those screenshots to see what they're missing to some extent. You can zoom in the screenshots on any kind of screen and feel the greatness. Play Has No Limits!
 

sircaw

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That's why I did those 4K screenshots of the videos, some might not seem convinced about 4K TV's, but they can easily see those screenshots to see what they're missing to some extent. You can zoom in the screenshots on any kind of screen and feel the greatness. Play Has No Limits!

Last year black Friday, i bought my self a cheap 4k 43 inch Lg tv. It was 450 pounds reduced to 299.
I had been gaming on a 32 inch no name brand from 11+ years ago. The yellows were mustard looking and the blacks were more grey. It did me fine because i did not know any better.

When i got my new TV i was blown away by the games. I was playing rise of the Tomb raider at the time and after loading it up and playing it i was like, WTF are these effects, things like smoke or haze from fire places burning. The amount of astonishing detail i had never seen before. Almost every single corner i turned there was something new to look at.

Owning a 4k tv made me play through all my games again, I can not stress this enough, if you do not own a 4k tv, JOIN the BLACK LIVES MATTER RIOTS AND PICK YOURSELF UP ONE Now, they are so worth it.
Infact, this is terrible to say but picking up a 4k tv in my eyes might even be a bigger upgrade that going from ps4 to ps5.

And the good news is you don't need a top of the range one to enjoy the benifits if your poor like me.
 

Bo_Hazem

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Last year black Friday, i bought my self a cheap 4k 43 inch Lg tv. It was 450 pounds reduced to 299.
I had been gaming on a 32 inch no name brand from 11+ years ago. The yellows were mustard looking and the blacks were more grey. It did me fine because i did not know any better.

When i got my new TV i was blown away by the games. I was playing rise of the Tomb raider at the time and after loading it up and playing it i was like, WTF are these effects, things like smoke or haze from fire places burning. The amount of astonishing detail i had never seen before. Almost every single corner i turned there was something new to look at.

Owning a 4k tv made me play through all my games again, I can not stress this enough, if you do not own a 4k tv, JOIN the BLACK LIVES MATTER RIOTS AND PICK YOURSELF UP ONE Now, they are so worth it.
Infact, this is terrible to say but picking up a 4k tv in my eyes might even be a bigger upgrade that going from ps4 to ps5.

And the good news is you don't need a top of the range one to enjoy the benifits if your poor like me.

Indeed, it's a huge generational leap to got for a 4K tv, even a cheap ass one. I've seen many Chinese (Nikai) tv's here mostly 75" 4K tv's on amusement shops and they look wonderful, costing around $700-800 USD. There are many good $300 4K TV's, cheap but good. The difference between 1080p tv and 4K tv is simply mind-blowing. Buying PS5 with no 4K TV is like someone watching a nice scenery without his glasses for someone not having healthy vision.

Even 1080p looks much better on 4K. And it goes to 8K as well, 4K looks much better on 8K tv's.
 
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Rudius

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They look great, but offline rendering still has a big advantage in IQ. They can completely eliminate aliasing, and use models with pretty much infinitely high geometry.
I saw no aliasing in those games at 4K and the Unreal Engine 5 demo had pixel size triangles; no point in having more geometry than that.
In realistic games there is still room for improvements, even realistic CG sometimes look bad in movies, but in this "Pixar DreamWorks style" games already give films a run for their money.
 

Bo_Hazem

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I saw no aliasing in those games at 4K and the Unreal Engine 5 demo had pixel size triangles; no point in having more geometry than that.
In realistic games there is still room for improvements, even realistic CG sometimes look bad in movies, but in this "Pixar DreamWorks style" games already give films a run for their money.

Indeed, here, a more fair comparison:

Sony Pictures' The Angry Birds Movie 2, 4K

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Ratchet & Clank on PS5

ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart-ps5-playstation-5-4.original.jpg


Indie game Kena running on PS5 footage in real-time

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I'm really wasn't ready for this. And some clowns telling us to temper our expectations after the flop event. Next gen starts when PlayStation says so.

 
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J_Gamer.exe

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This is in-game. Damn!
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Yeah it is, only thing I see wrong is clipping from the hair just before that giant robot emerges from the water. Watch and you see the hair go through the weapon.

Tells us it's realtime but I thought that was obvious anyway but hopefully they improve that also.

Overall it It looks unbelievable and so clean and cgi like.

Have watched it so many times haha.
 

Bo_Hazem

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Yup. Better move all that somewhere else. Theres already a thread where dudes complain about women not being made sexy enough or whatever

I like convincing female protagonists like Aloy (HZD), Ellie (TLOU), Chloe Frazer (Uncharted: Lost Legacy) and so on. The Nier protagonist alone made me skip the game even if it's a great game, it's just too stupid with whore clothing.

I still love you Bo, well until my gold Account runs out.

On a serious note stuff them.

You are the smiling fish of my life.:messenger_smiling_hearts::messenger_heart:
 

sircaw

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I like convincing female protagonists like Aloy (HZD), Ellie (TLOU), Chloe Frazer (Uncharted: Lost Legacy) and so on. The Nier protagonist alone made me skip the game even if it's a great game, it's just too stupid with whore clothing.



You are the smiling fish of my life.:messenger_smiling_hearts::messenger_heart:
I will be changing that picture to a piranha one day as i love to nip as well.
Unfortunately my nips are mainly for fun or humour. I think trying to make light out of everything can be a good stance although sometimes, I can take it a bit to far.
I guess that's what mods are for.
 

Fordino

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My launch PS4 is a jet engine. PS4 pro is quite but sometimes little noise
For me it’s the opposite, my launch PS4 was very quiet, but my Pro is crazy loud. In games such as Modern Warfare I have to wear headphones to hear what’s going on.

I cleaned out my Pro a few weeks ago, but it’s still the same, so it’s likely the thermal paste. I’m getting a PS5 at launch, so am not gonna risk opening it up and fixing it.
 

Schitt

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That's why I made the youtube screenshots as well, although both being somehow unfair, the youtube video being more than 4x compressed and the direct feed from the console itself without interaction with the screen.

But here, screenshots I made now from youtube which is at least 4x or more worse that what you will see in the console:

1.jpg


kkkk.jpg


There is a shadow glitch here, it's a pre-alpha build after all, but look at the distant buildings and how clean and sharp they are

ffgh.jpg


hjtt.jpg


Youtube and videos are crap usually with lots of details lost in the slightest movement with particles. But it's very, very close to those direct screenshots from the console.
Indeed, here, a more fair comparison:

Sony Picture's The Angry Birds Movie 2, 4K

32386c9b5c5ee27b49d6ccf67846d069.jpg


Ratchet & Clank on PS5

ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart-ps5-playstation-5-4.original.jpg


Indie game Kena running on PS5 footage in real-time

rotwisp-1591929079055_8s35.jpg



I'm really wasn't ready for this. And some clowns telling us to temper our expectations after the flop event. Next gen starts when PlayStation says so.



sorry to burst you bubble, but those are not in-game gameplay screenshots, meaning you can't control the character at all in those scenes and you are not playing the game at all in those screens, so here are the real gameplay screenshots, when you are actually playing the game:

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vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16bjjgx.png


vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16iujwn.png


just to set expectations clear.
 
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J_Gamer.exe

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Man I think I am in love with the new HZD Forbidden West trailer, I've been rewatching it so many times in 4K on my small laptop and it looks jaw droppingely beautiful, and what's even more insane is it would look much better on an actual 4K panel. I am so pumped for this game!

I've only watched in 1080p but am still blown away. Waiting for a gamerstde high bit rate version if they still do it....
 

Corndog

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I saw no aliasing in those games at 4K and the Unreal Engine 5 demo had pixel size triangles; no point in having more geometry than that.
In realistic games there is still room for improvements, even realistic CG sometimes look bad in movies, but in this "Pixar DreamWorks style" games already give films a run for their money.
You can still have aliasing at pixel size when a poly falls in between two pixels.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
sorry to burst you bubble, but those are not in-game gameplay screenshots, meaning you can't control the character at all in those scenes and you are not playing the game at all in those screens, so here are the real gameplay screenshots, when you are actually playing the game:

vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16iqj8r.png


vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16jujkj.png




vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16bjjgx.png


vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16iujwn.png


just to set expectations clear.

Sweet, goes for the live stream low bitrate 1080p and makes screenshots. Why am I even wasting my time here? Have you heard of 4K before? Here, gameplay screenshots I made from heavily compressed youtube videos:

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EDIT: Never mind, the user is just an alt to spread FUD.
 
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Neo Blaster

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devkits are not more powerful than real consoles, they are created so devs can run games in development to test them out. the whole point of them is to represent how a ps5 would run it

that's the only way for them to do real world test, his assumption that devs have to manually code to certain limitations is ludicrous. in that case they would just use PCs to run them with the given restrictions lol
Devkits must have at least double the memory of retail version so devs can debug code, and spare processing power to run the tools while the game itself is running. So, I think they indeed are more powerful.
 

Neo Blaster

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drag?
Did you see flight simulator? Best looking nextgen gameplay we have seen so far, and yet this games comes to xbox one.
I think you don’t know how scaling works bro.
Best looking next gen gameplay? Oh, boy, not that it's that complicated for a flight simulation where all that happens is sightseeing and weather changes. And keep hoping for those graphics on One S, no wonder why they have to stream from the cloud.
 

Darius87

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Some things i've noticed from Horizon 2 trailer which aren't in first game:
Tropical enviroments ✔
Super dense vegetation ✔
Aquarium like enviroments ✔
Swarm of fishes ✔
Diving pelicans ✔
Fighting Crabs ✔
Giant snaping turtle robots ✔
Category five storms ✔
Giant boar robots ✔
Corrupt vegetation ✔
Underwater gameplay ✔
Flying pteranodonai dino robots ✔
Chinese new year dragon ✔
Giant mammoth robots ✔
 

Schitt

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Sweet, goes for the live stream low bitrate 1080p and makes screenshots. Why am I even wasting my time here? Have you heard of 4K before? Here, gameplay screenshots I made from heavily compressed youtube videos:

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again, that's not gameplay, there is no HUD nothing, in that sequence you can't control the character at all.

You can find the gameplay here, they made an extra trailer for gameplay footage:

This is the gameplay, this is the graphics you can expect when playing the game. You can see the HUD etc.
 
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Gamernyc78

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sorry to burst you bubble, but those are not in-game gameplay screenshots, meaning you can't control the character at all in those scenes and you are not playing the game at all in those screens, so here are the real gameplay screenshots, when you are actually playing the game:

vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16iqj8r.png


vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16jujkj.png




vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16bjjgx.png


vlcsnap-2020-06-14-16iujwn.png


just to set expectations clear.

Sorry to break it to you there were in game screens, playable characters in Horizon, Ratchet and Kena tht looked better than tht. Nice bullshit angles, low brightnesd/contrast lol 😂 😂 😂 😂

And the fud wars begin. Bro trolling like this convinced no one especially since we have Horizon released years ago and tlou2 tht just dropped right now tht are playable and looks better than tht bs you just posted.

Problem is some ppl think that some things are cutscenes or cgi bcus thy look so fucking good ouuuu
 
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FeiRR

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Well look at PS4 - Sony put out more violent games than anyone else this gen. GOW (ok Kratos is neutral race I'd say), BB, Days Gone, Killzone off the top of my head - all generic white guys mudering their way though their stories.
I don't even know what that means. I was talking about violence, not racial issues. People murdering people for whatever reason they seem fit.

I mean Halo and Gears are children's game level compared to the violence Sony put in their games. I don't think of them as violent at all.
As far as I know, both games use similar trope of powerful supersoldiers killing religious zealots because reasons. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, I've always tried to skip cutscenes in those games because, as you pointed out, it's for children.

I think Sony also know that they can't really compete with COD, BF, Destiny or Fortnite or those kind of games. They had resistance, KZ, MAG, even SOCOM. Nothing really stuck in the face of multiplat juggernauts. Sony can't and shouldn't compete with 3rd parties on their own turf - it's easier to work with them, hence the Destiny, COD, Rockstar deals.
Shooters aren't the same and not all of them are like COD. I'd like something else and Sony can deliver such a game. By the way, Killzone games have a very interesting and not obvious pitch on the problem of oppression and the oppressed. One based not on race but rather social differences and that's something I can relate to. Probably because Guerilla is a Dutch studio.
 

yewles1

Member
Indeed, here, a more fair comparison:

Sony Picture's The Angry Birds Movie 2, 4K

32386c9b5c5ee27b49d6ccf67846d069.jpg


Ratchet & Clank on PS5

ratchet-and-clank-rift-apart-ps5-playstation-5-4.original.jpg


Indie game Kena running on PS5 footage in real-time

rotwisp-1591929079055_8s35.jpg



I'm really wasn't ready for this. And some clowns telling us to temper our expectations after the flop event. Next gen starts when PlayStation says so.


Like I said before, late '90's Hollywood CG is finally achieved in realtime. WE GOT 'DEM TOY STORY 2 VISUALS NAO!!!
 

Gamernyc78

Banned
drag?
Did you see flight simulator? Best looking nextgen gameplay we have seen so far, and yet this games comes to xbox one.
I think you don’t know how scaling works bro.

Flight simulator? Flight simulator?? Haha you mean tht game tht is based off cloud and dependant on your bandwitch thts just a flight simulator gane tht looks decent to good for what it is? 😂😂

You guys kill me lol Horizon one tht is open world, tons of npcs, lush world's, bosses, etc looks better than tht and thts playable right now on PS4. Please don't compare a simulator game tht are doing diff things to other games.

You know it's bad when ppl have to reference flight simulator lol tht was shown on high end pc and still falls short.

Just noticed two Neo members in last few days spreading nonsense and fud lol 😂 😂 😂
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Hello all. Apologies for being slightly off topic, but what with the release of the new consoles later this year I'm thinking of replacing my old TV with an LG OLED55C9PLA. It seems to have pretty decent reviews, but is there any feedback on here?

It has bad motion processing compared to LCD LED TV's, especially at 24-30fps. It has low peak brightness for HDR and dims the image making white sometimes look like gray-ish. Overall it's one of the best TV's out there for gaming, and if you play for long hours or work on PC for long hours and bars/logos/HUD there then you better go for LED LCD.

I would say keep an eye for Sony's XH90 (X900H), reviews aren't out yet and it has the HDMI 2.1 chiplet and will support full features of it (4K@120Hz, VRR, ALLM) with a firmware update, but better get it around Black Friday. Sony overall has the best motion, color, upscaling processors, but you go and check more reviews. LG C9 is one of the top tv's there, but being OLED, low peak brightness, weak motions control can be problematic for games running at 30fps.

Every other guy has an opinion, watch more videos from professionals and make up your mind, but those two TV's to me are the best two TV's out there.
 
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Fordino

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Hello all. Apologies for being slightly off topic, but what with the release of the new consoles later this year I'm thinking of replacing my old TV with an LG OLED55C9PLA. It seems to have pretty decent reviews, but is there any feedback on here?
I have the 65 inch version. It’s my first 4K TV so I can’t give a fair comparison to other TVs but I think it’s fantastic.

I purchased it based on Eurogamer’s recommendations, it has a very low lag, great features, detail, and the way the HDR pops stuff out is amazing.

It’s also HDMI 2.1, so it supports 4K at 120hz, 8k at 60hz, and VRR at 40-120hz range.
 

Gamernyc78

Banned
Some things i've noticed from Horizon 2 trailer which aren't in first game:
Tropical enviroments ✔
Super dense vegetation ✔
Aquarium like enviroments ✔
Swarm of fishes ✔
Diving pelicans ✔
Fighting Crabs ✔
Giant snaping turtle robots ✔
Category five storms ✔
Giant boar robots ✔
Corrupt vegetation ✔
Underwater gameplay ✔
Flying pteranodonai dino robots ✔
Chinese new year dragon ✔
Giant mammoth robots ✔

So on point and it looked better than one. It looks like it's doing tons of things and we can expect tht bcus Horizon one wasn't this static, empty open world like other games.

Can't wait to see how under water gameplay looks and is. Hope thy fixed the only graphical issue which was water animations but I'm sure thy did.
 
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