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Tesseract

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I certainly think the politics sub currently leans a little too right IMHO (Trumps, not the Hitler, but he's not infallible either) but unfortunately, the people turning up are either abject screechers or the usual suspects who can't get over their own prejudices enough to engage in honest discussion. It's all rather tragic tbh.
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hard to see you up there in your both sides air balloon

insofar as i can tell the political discussion board tilts moderate and wants for no bullshit
 
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CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
It's considerate of Meirl to give the Mods an entertainment break from the daily moderation grind to take few minutes out to play whack-a-Meirl.

What sick and obsessed clown this guy is.
 

nush

Member
I certainly think the politics sub currently leans a little too right IMHO (Trumps, not the Hitler, but he's not infallible either) but unfortunately, the people turning up are either abject screechers or the usual suspects who can't get over their own prejudices enough to engage in honest discussion. It's all rather tragic tbh.

There's a much wider international base of active members here, I think you've got some selective confirmation bias going on. Of course people are going to discuss the US president, with all that's going on in the world, in an election year. Just becuse not everyone has TDS when talking about him does not mean it's a right leaning sub.
 
There's a much wider international base of active members here, I think you've got some selective confirmation bias going on. Of course people are going to discuss the US president, with all that's going on in the world, in an election year. Just becuse not everyone has TDS when talking about him does not mean it's a right leaning sub.

How come I can't see your avatar?
 
Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights

Yesterday this guy was site banned for this post: (not surprise here, it is just an example)

Today, this toxic post still remains in the thread and the user was not even warned:

Fuck off back to the spec thread where you belong.

Is this kind of toxic behaviour where you can tell other users to fuck off out of the blue and even tell them where they should post or belong as if you were the king of the place allowed here?

Last time I checked it was still EviLore EviLore the owner of this site.
 
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Bo_Hazem

Banned
Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights

Yesterday this guy was site banned for this post: (not surpise)

Today, this toxic post still remains in the thread and the user was not even warned:



Is this kind of toxic behaviour where you can tell other users to fuck off out of the blue and even tell them where they should post or belong as if you were the king of the place allowed here?

Last time I checked it was still EviLore EviLore the owner of this site.

Yes some xbox fans seem to be extremely hostile and wonder why they get banned from such behavior in the speculation thread, and the less hostile ones have systematic FUD generation. Most other threads are showing rabid behavior that needs serious monitoring. Maybe it's overwhelming for the mod team but hope they can manage.
 

Jooxed

Gold Member
Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights

Yesterday this guy was site banned for this post: (not surprise)

Today, this toxic post still remains in the thread and the user was not even warned:



Is this kind of toxic behaviour where you can tell other users to fuck off out of the blue and even tell them where they should post or belong as if you were the king of the place allowed here?

Last time I checked it was still EviLore EviLore the owner of this site.


Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping has a history of going into X-Box and Nintendo threads and dropping nonsensical memes and hostile stuff, that seems to have really ramped up over the past couple of weeks. Unsure if that had something to do with it
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights

Yesterday this guy was site banned for this post: (not surprise here, it is just an example)

Today, this toxic post still remains in the thread and the user was not even warned:



Is this kind of toxic behaviour where you can tell other users to fuck off out of the blue and even tell them where they should post or belong as if you were the king of the place allowed here?

Last time I checked it was still EviLore EviLore the owner of this site.

I love how you convieniently remove the post from its context.

Its almost like people are getting tired of sony warriors shitting up threads constantly and nothing being done about it.
 
Ass of Can Whooping Ass of Can Whooping has a history of going into X-Box and Nintendo threads and dropping nonsensical memes and hostile stuff, that seems to have really ramped up over the past couple of weeks. Unsure if that had something to do with it
It was just an example of a recent ban to put my quetion in context.
Fuck off Sony, Fuck off Activision, Fuck off "any public figure" on topic has nothing to do with telling to another NeoGaf user to "fuck off you dont belong here" out of the blue.

So my question for: Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights Mod of War Mod of War and the @mods here is of I am allowed to use the same toxic rhetoric here without risking even being warning.
 
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Sort it out among yourselves.
The lack of moderation is the main problem a lof of times.

This guy SatansReverence SatansReverence complained here in this thread that when he reports he gets no responses and I can understand his frustration totally. Putting time and effort to report a BS post in order to keep this place nice and civil and then see that you dont even get a response is really frustrating. It is also unfair for the users who respect the rules here.

I am asking a legit question: What do I have to do when I feel that a troll is messing around: report and risk being ignored or say fuck off and make the justice by myself?
 
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Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
The lack of moderation is the main problem a lof of times.

This guy SatansReverence SatansReverence complained here in this thread that when he reports he gets no responses and I can understand his frustration totally. Putting time and effort to report a BS post in order to keep this place nice and civil and then see that you dont even get a response is really frustrating. It is also unfair for the users who respect the rules here.

I am asking a legit question: What do I have to do when I feel that a troll is messing around: report and risk being ignored or say fuck off and make the justice by myself?
Fuck off

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-Arcadia-

Banned
The lack of moderation is the main problem a lof of times.

This guy complained here in this thread that when he reports he gets no responses and I can understand his frustration totally. Putting time and effort to report a BS post in order to keep this place nice and civil and then see that you dont even get a response is really frustrating. It is also unfair for the users who respect the rules here.

I am asking a legit question: What do I have to do when I feel that a troll is messing around: report and risk being ignored or say fuck off and make the justice by myself?

Okay, MHK. I don’t know anybody else who has that weird bolding and underlining style, when they get angry, lol.

That aside, handle yourself, in a manner befitting of the community and the thread, and fight your own battles.

Seriously. Do you realize that you’re asking someone, probably around your same age, to be your parent and take away the mean bully for you?

Moreover, this seems to have some creepy tit-for-tat component to it, where, ‘they took one of ours, so we’ll take one of theirs’. For that reason, I’m really glad you got shut down, because we don’t ever need power struggles over trying to influence moderation.
 
Okay, MHK. I don’t know anybody else who has that weird bolding and underlining style, when they get angry, lol.

That aside, handle yourself, in a manner befitting of the community and the thread, and fight your own battles.

Seriously. Do you realize that you’re asking someone, probably around your same age, to be your parent and take away the mean bully for you?

Moreover, this seems to have some creepy tit-for-tat component to it, where, ‘they took one of ours, so we’ll take one of theirs’. For that reason, I’m really glad you got shut down, because we don’t ever need power struggles over trying to influence moderation.
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I am not angry at all. That "fuck off" is not even for me. I have nothing to do with that "battle" that I just quoted.

It is general question, if that kind of "fuck off you dont belong here" rhetoric is allowed here.
 
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-Arcadia-

Banned
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I am not angry at all. That "fuck off" is not even for me. I have nothing to do with that "battle" that I just quoted

It is general question, if that kind of "fuck off you dont belong here" rhetoric is allowed here.

True. So, you’re the tattletale instead? Everything I said remains true.

Likewise, nobody is fooled by the leading questions. If you want to shame, manipulate, and cow moderators into doing your bidding, Resetera is that way - >
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Okay, MHK. I don’t know anybody else who has that weird bolding and underlining style, when they get angry, lol.

That aside, handle yourself, in a manner befitting of the community and the thread, and fight your own battles.

Seriously. Do you realize that you’re asking someone, probably around your same age, to be your parent and take away the mean bully for you?

Moreover, this seems to have some creepy tit-for-tat component to it, where, ‘they took one of ours, so we’ll take one of theirs’. For that reason, I’m really glad you got shut down, because we don’t ever need power struggles over trying to influence moderation.

Fuck off:messenger_angry_horns:, don't ever talk about my MiyazakiHatesKojima MiyazakiHatesKojima :messenger_smiling_hearts:
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Sometimes the best thing really is to just let people keep talking, without interruption.

Probably, "fuck off" might be a mild one, calling someone a bitch and other pretty obvious insults shouldn't be taken lightly. A mod interruption to ask for people to calm down is always better as well.
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
Probably, "fuck off" might be a mild one, calling someone a bitch and other pretty obvious insults shouldn't be taken lightly. A mod interruption to ask for people to calm down is always better as well.

In all seriousness, it depends on context. The second you start ruling without that, you don’t have a message board anymore, just a bunch of people frightened to be themselves, without tripping over some rule. Once you have no-context modding, you’ll have cliques consistently, successfully using those rules to remove people they don’t like, or alter a power structure.

I think most people understand basic decorum, and when and where language and heated moments are warranted. If they don’t, they tend to glow-in-the-dark as terrible users, with a constant average of poor posts, and get removed anyway.

Letting be people be people, and work things out without virtual helicopter parents (modern moderation everywhere else) is underrated. The current Gaf approach where two users get salty as hell at each other (as long as they don’t knock a thread right off course), but work it out, or part ways, is A+, and needs to be a standard.

That’s what needed to happen with the fuck off, instead of tattletaleing straight to the Ban Review thread, with intonations of tit-for-tat, and attempted moderation control.

See, watch.

Imagine trying to shame someone for using the report function.

Nobody likes you, Claus. Go meekly find your courage, repeat someone, and join a battle halfway through, elsewhere,
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
In all seriousness, it depends on context. The second you start ruling without that, you don’t have a message board anymore, just a bunch of people frightened to be themselves, without tripping over some rule. Once you have no-context modding, you’ll have cliques consistently, successfully using those rules to remove people they don’t like, or alter a power structure.

I think most people understand basic decorum, and when and where language and heated moments are warranted. If they don’t, they tend to glow-in-the-dark as terrible users, with a constant average of poor posts, and get removed anyway.

Letting be people be people, and work things out without virtual helicopter parents (modern moderation everywhere else) is underrated. The current Gaf approach where two users get salty as hell at each other (as long as they don’t knock a thread right off course), but work it out, or part ways, is A+, and needs to be a standard.

That’s what needed to happen with the fuck off, instead of tattletaleing straight to the Ban Review thread, with intonations of tit-for-tat, and attempted moderation control.

See, watch.



Nobody likes you, Claus. Go meekly find your courage, repeat someone, and join a battle halfway through, elsewhere,

Makes sense, I just hope many would rather have less hostile approach and try their best to contribute instead of antagonizing each other. Fight the post, not the poster.:messenger_winking_tongue:
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Imagine trying to shame someone for using the report function. The mods know what they are doing and have stated reporting helps. Doesn't mean that everything that is reported gets moderated against as they may not see any issue with it.

Definitely helps, although I rarely use it. I'm used to places like Yahoo chat back in the day and that has no moderation and you get shit loads of goons in there that you need to deal with. :lollipop_anxious_sweat:
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
Makes sense, I just hope many would rather have less hostile approach and try their best to contribute instead of antagonizing each other. Fight the post, not the poster.:messenger_winking_tongue:

Absolutely agreed on contributions.

However, it’s not rainbows and sunshine kind of world. There’s going to be jerks. There’s going to be conflicts. Maybe even sometimes between two good people.

Letting that resolve naturally, as long as it doesn’t turn into a ‘bar fight’ that wrecks the place, or swallows several other posters, is placing trust and a degree of freedom in users, which culminates in a happier, more open... less bitchy? Forum.

Consider the alternative posited a post back, and that’s a pretty good deal all around.

As far as poster and post, it’s not always so clear. That works for two normal people having a debate, but does it work when the other user isn’t operating in such good faith? Let’s say one pokes and pokes at another, and that person just goes nuclear. Under a context-less system, the victim would be banned, and the instigator encouraged.

That’s one example, and a mod had several other really good ones, a couple of days ago in this thread.

I like Claus :(

That’s good. Someone needs to.
 

Kagey K

Banned
The lack of moderation is the main problem a lof of times.

This guy SatansReverence SatansReverence complained here in this thread that when he reports he gets no responses and I can understand his frustration totally. Putting time and effort to report a BS post in order to keep this place nice and civil and then see that you dont even get a response is really frustrating. It is also unfair for the users who respect the rules here.

I am asking a legit question: What do I have to do when I feel that a troll is messing around: report and risk being ignored or say fuck off and make the justice by myself?
Seems to me he replied to a shitpost with an appropriate shitpost. That persons comment did nothing for the conversation and deserved the remark.

If you don’t like the answers you are getting I suggest you challenge him to a Casket Match and sell the PPV tickets on here.

Or just keep doing this.


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-Arcadia-

Banned
Seems to me he replied to a shitpost with an appropriate shitpost. That persons comment did nothing for the conversation and deserved the remark.

If you don’t like the answers you are getting I suggest you challenge him to a Casket Match and sell the PPV tickets on here.

Or just keep doing this.


🤷‍♂️


Hey, it’s actually cool. Rusco Da Vino Rusco Da Vino and I were talking a bit over PM, and I think things were largely worked out. Can’t speak for him, but he seems like a cool guy ultimately.

I am totally for a casket match, though.
 

Kagey K

Banned
Hey, it’s actually cool. Rusco Da Vino Rusco Da Vino and I were talking a bit over PM, and I think things were largely worked out. Can’t speak for him, but he seems like a cool guy ultimately.

I am totally for a casket match, though.

Really that’s all I can hope for. Everything should be resolved in casket matches. If there’s some cheating or fuckery going on we may have to take it to the next level.
Hell in a Cell

😜
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
Btw, Rusco Da Vino Rusco Da Vino , since that comment about manipulation angered you a bit, I wanted to apologize. There’s a lot of crappy people on the internet, and sometimes, guarding against that, you can misfire. I see now that you were just passionate.

But what do you think about the casket match, tho?
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights
Today, this toxic post still remains in the thread and the user was not even warned:
Is this kind of toxic behaviour where you can tell other users to fuck off out of the blue and even tell them where they should post or belong as if you were the king of the place allowed here?

Last time I checked it was still EviLore EviLore the owner of this site.

Out of the blue my ASS.

He was one of several of the usual Sony suspects that came into a thread about Xbox possibly buying another studio with the sole purpose of trolling and derailing.

Asscan of trolling was banned for repeatedly trolling that thread I'm sure although his personal insults probably helped. You want to talk about toxic that guy is constantly trolling and insulting people. I don't know how he's escaped a perm really.

Some of your other buddies got new tags to saying to report them for trolling Xbox threads and I think others were thread banned. Every time the thread would get back on topic another Sony fan would come in to troll and derail it. So, yeah, by the time your pal in question came in to troll someone telling them to fuck off and go back to the spec thread was quite reasonable.
 
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