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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I've been studying this image for a while. I've finally made a decision.
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I really want that stone flooring in my house.
the AF in this pic is worse than AF on PS4 games.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Thanks for the side-by-side, you don't realize how next-level 343i are until you see the direct comparison. Halo for the easy win. :messenger_grimmacing_

Let's hope that gave MS a reality check, making its prime title a laughing stock. I was really, really, eagerly waiting to play this, and was planning to upgrade the newly bought Radeon VII to a new Big Navi to take full advantage of it:





I love space games, never played a halo game before. It's pretty sad.
 

DaGwaphics

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Let's hope that gave MS a reality check, making its prime title a laughing stock. I was really, really, eagerly waiting to play this, and was planning to upgrade the newly bought Radeon VII to a new Big Navi to take full advantage of it:

I question whether or not Halo is a good fit for a hyper realistic visual. They probably should have gone with something more (intentionally) cartoonish in style (borderlands, everwild, etc.), especially if they wanted a game big in scope on Xbone. Although, fans would have probably thrown a fit at the idea.
 
They have this already existing PC technology of ray tracing called ALPIRT which means basically After Launch Patched In Ray Tracing.It's been kinda hit or miss depnding on games.
Yes I know, I also make fun of Halo because I think is well deserved.

I am talking seriously the RT will not fix the assets of xbox one gen or the materials but I found interesting to found how XSX scale in engine which doesn't looks
top tier.

For example this kind of games should has RT sound but is they introduce RT reflection we can say goodbye or the 60 fps or almost 4k (probably 1440p).


I question whether or not Halo is a good fit for a hyper realistic visual. They probably should have gone with something more (intentionally) cartoonish in style (borderlands, everwild, etc.), especially if they wanted a game big in scope on Xbone. Although, fans would have probably thrown a fit at the idea.

Agree the game of Rare could looks gorgeous always they maintain an average of quality in its assets and not only in one of them (the water of Sea of Thieves).

But if they go to far with the Cel Shading I think the reception will be also bad if happens to Zelda of course will happens to Halo.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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I question whether or not Halo is a good fit for a hyper realistic visual. They probably should have gone with something more (intentionally) cartoonish in style (borderlands, everwild, etc.), especially if they wanted a game big in scope on Xbone. Although, fans would have probably thrown a fit at the idea.

I loved ME Andromeda with all its flaws, and love exploring new worlds in it. The CGI beginning made a mild shock to me of that planet mining! Then the gameplay totally killed me. I didn't watch the stream, I watch the 4K@60fps version.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Yes I know, I also make fun of Halo because I think is well deserved.

I am talking seriously the RT will not fix the assets of xbox one gen or the materials but I found interesting to found how XSX scale in engine which doesn't looks
top tier.

For example this kind of games should has RT sound but is they introduce RT reflection we can say goodbye or the 60 fps or almost 4k (probably 1440p).
Yeah it was a simple joke, I don't think we'll get full path tracing for obvious reasons but jokes a part considering the state of the game as of now maybe 343 doesn't even know themselves what kind of RT it will have.

I don't know if the 60fps dream is dead,I mean this game is obviously not representative of the Xsx power.I think that the game will first need to be patched for the problem that couldn't be fixed by the time it releases.

Then an RT but now 343 seems way behind schedule so I have no doubt there will be raytraced sound and lights but I wonder more about when.
 
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Sinthor

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Let's hope that gave MS a reality check, making its prime title a laughing stock. I was really, really, eagerly waiting to play this, and was planning to upgrade the newly bought Radeon VII to a new Big Navi to take full advantage of it:





I love space games, never played a halo game before. It's pretty sad.


I played the first three at least. They were good. I am not huge on first person shooters. I'll play a Call of Duty or something once in a while but I don't really like FPS games all that much. Wanted to play Halo though....I enjoyed them a lot. But...not worth buying a console just for that...not for ME at any rate. I know some people who have.
 

silent head

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peril on gorgon must be purchased separately ?

The DLC will come in at $14.99 (no other regional pricing available at time of writing), and Xbox Game Pass subscribers will receive a 10% discount. The Outer Worlds will also be getting an Expansion Pass comprising Peril on Gorgon and the next DLC pack for $24.99
 

Brudda26

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So I was digging through the patent records here in the UK and stumbled across this one. SIE have filed a patent for machine learning that will record clips of what happens in your games on it's own by identifying if what you did would of been a play of the game esque moment or if you did something cool.
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J_Gamer.exe

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Does anyone else do this... you come on here and find you are many pages behind in a short time so you know sonething must have happened or new news but I have to read through the pages properly before I can find out what 😃

It's exciting LOL.

This thread though, it's been cracking over the last few weeks or more.

So much up and down, with new news and funny moments.

Am still a good few pages behind though....
 

Bo_Hazem

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I loved Days Gone. A top 5 game for me this gen. My wife told me I’m nuts, but I think I might have liked it even more than God of War. This was the golden age of Sony exclusives. I bought every single release and completed them all. I used 3rd party games as filler between releases, with a few exceptions.

Days Gone is one of my best games of all time, you're not nuts.
 

DrDamn

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There's just too many things pointing to XsX being bottlenecked some place.
First with devs saying it's inefficient compared to PS5, then another dev saying the ssd and compressor are causing performance issues, and now this unimpressive showing.

I think at the moment the biggest issue is that the underlying software / dev tools are not there yet for MS. They normally get the nod in terms of having greater experience in software, but I don't think their structure is right for delivering this sort of thing on a very tight time scale. I think it's generally accepted that Sony were ahead in terms of hardware development (time wise). They also have really good teams making the tools and OS side now.

MS haven't properly shown an XSX playing an XSX games, even their own studios. That tells you where they are. It will likely be a rough launch but they will improve quickly. I think an advantage, albeit small, will start showing in third party stuff after 6m to a year. Will that do any real damage? Not sure.
 

DrDamn

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*DISCLAIMER* I'm NOT AN INSIDER, this is all speculation

- One of the things I was curious about is the fact that PS changed the name Share -> Create

This morning there was some interesting information regarding PS5 Activities, basically deep-linking from the console menu to a specific part of the game, BUT I DO THINK THAT IS NOT ALL.

I think PS5 will let you share moments of your game, basic configurations of your game that players can download to replay your exact same situation.

Examples:

- Specific race condition, you were losing a race, you can share/create that activity (instance), to see who can overcome the deficit.
- You don't have bullets and arms while playing TLOU2, you can share that moment to see who can defeat that level without bullets.

I love this idea. I'd pondered the switch from share to create but never came up with a decent reason. This sounds great coupled with really fast game start times.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
How are load times in Days Gone?

That's a game in my backlog I might wait until PS5 to play.

To be honest, most of PS Studios games don't have very long load times. GOT for example has probably the fastest loading screens ever on an HDD this gen.

For me, Days Gone shocked me of how wonderful it is, the critics killed it for being mostly "white" and "straight", not kidding, check out some reviews. I like finished 95% of the game collectibles, but destroyed all the hives and so. It's always better to clear some areas so you don't get headaches during missions of the hordes, it's both thrilling and fun though. The acting is brilliant and feels so natural to me.
 
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DeepSpace5D

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They have this already existing PC technology of ray tracing called ALPIRT which means basically After Launch Patched In Ray Tracing.It's been kinda hit or miss depnding on games.
Man, just wanted to say I saw the thread on Era where they banned you. The amount of hostility you received by people on there for bringing up any kind of possible conflict of interest or differences in analysis videos by Mr. Battaglia was quite alarming. But I applaud you for standing up to what looked like a pretty strong echo chamber. 👏🏼
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
To be honest, most of PS Studios games don't have very long load times. GOT for example has probably the fastest loading screens ever on an HDD this gen.

For me, Days Gone shocked me of how wonderful it is, the critics killed it for being mostly "white" and "straight", not kidding, check some reviews. I like finished 95% of the game collectibles, but destroyed all the hives and so. It's always better to clear some areas so you don't get headaches during missions of the hordes, it's both thrilling and fun though. The acting is brilliant and feels so natural to me.
Yeah I might play it before PS5 then; recently moved my PS4 Pro to my desk where I sit (I know, monitors aren't the best, but it's just more comfortable) and it's motivating me to tackle my rather extensive PS backlog.

I love the sound of the game; clearing hordes is my jam lol
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Yeah I might play it before PS5 then; recently moved my PS4 Pro to my desk where I sit (I know, monitors aren't the best, but it's just more comfortable) and it's motivating me to tackle my rather extensive PS backlog.

I love the sound of the game; clearing hordes is my jam lol

You'll love it, if you're confident in your skills go to the highest difficulty, but it can be brutal. :lollipop_tears_of_joy: Some areas surrounded by hordes you nearly shit yourself while silently approaching them where you sometimes have no good space to escape through.:lollipop_tears_of_joy:

EDIT: The music doesn't help as well.:messenger_fearful:
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
How are load times in Days Gone?

That's a game in my backlog I might wait until PS5 to play.
I dont remember but i dont remember them being a nuisance either like Bloodborne at launch. Generally speaking, i dont really use fast travel in open world games unless im on the opposite side of the map. Game does a great job of keeping you going without forcing you to fast travel. Also love my bike.

And yes, the hordes are amazing, but dont expect to take them on right away. It will take you at least 10-15 hours to get some of the more powerful weapons to take on hordes. until then the game plays out like a survival horror games. After that, it's terminator vs hordes.
 
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azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Man, just wanted to say I saw the thread on Era where they banned you. The amount of hostility you received by people on there for bringing up any kind of possible conflict of interest or differences in analysis videos by Mr. Battaglia was quite alarming. But I applaud you for standing up to what looked like a pretty strong echo chamber. 👏🏼
Thank you man, I would've posted more proofs (proves?) But got banned and censored.That's not a surprise I got piled on when I made a thread about how I felt that Star Wars The Fallen Order felt like a best of of gaming trends with different comparisons.

But that's Era and its openness to debate I do like how they want proof and when shown you get banned for off site drama even worse everything started as a little joke but Alex got triggered so I guess by the rules of Era you can't joke but insulting someone is OK.

Anyway I predicted that Nxgamer would have a different opinion than Alex and oh surprise he did.

But as you probably noted I'm most of the time joking execpt when you start to touch about my favorite fish here...
I'll defend him like nemo (please don't get lost again sircaw sircaw ).
But thanks anyway I have to admit it's not a huge loss Era has to much of a hive mind and I really like how we can talk and argue here (even troll a little sometimes) sometimes we go a bit too far but it's nice to be able to talk without fearing censorship.

All that said I gotta admit I could've been more relevant in my arguments but translating ain't always easy to me.

I hope I'll have the pleasure of exchanging with you in future threads.
 

sircaw

Banned
Thank you man, I would've posted more proofs (proves?) But got banned and censored.That's not a surprise I got piled on when I made a thread about how I felt that Star Wars The Fallen Order felt like a best of of gaming trends with different comparisons.

But that's Era and its openness to debate I do like how they want proof and when shown you get banned for off site drama even worse everything started as a little joke but Alex got triggered so I guess by the rules of Era you can't joke but insulting someone is OK.

Anyway I predicted that Nxgamer would have a different opinion than Alex and oh surprise he did.

But as you probably noted I'm most of the time joking execpt when you start to touch about my favorite fish here...
I'll defend him like nemo (please don't get lost again sircaw sircaw ).
But thanks anyway I have to admit it's not a huge loss Era has to much of a hive mind and I really like how we can talk and argue here (even troll a little sometimes) sometimes we go a bit too far but it's nice to be able to talk without fearing censorship.

All that said I gotta admit I could've been more relevant in my arguments but translating ain't always easy to me.

I hope I'll have the pleasure of exchanging with you in future threads.

I don't go to that site but would be curious to what you posted there.

Any chance of a link to see, pretty please. :messenger_grinning:

Mind you, if you are banned i guess you can't see it now, doh.
 
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azertydu91

Hard to Kill
I don't go to that site but would be curious to what you posted there.

Any chance of a link to see, pretty please. :messenger_grinning:
I will be able to send you a link in a few months when I'll be unbanned (even though some wanted it to be permanent, so who knows).
Once again even though I could've worder my arguments better you'll just find some typical Era pile on and hive mind.
But basically it started with a comment he was bashing and (quite sarcastically I admit) said something like "maybe a new light system would enhance this comment?"
To which he called me something like the worst user of Era which got a bit on my nerves.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Gamepass description? :messenger_hushed:



I like him, but that's plain stupid. Just look at the people around here, most of them have accomplished something in their life, it's like saying watching movies and series is a waste of time. You know what? Having fun isn't a waste of time, it's a healthy way to drive away depression and stress from those "not wasting time" works/businesses/etc. Nothing like gaming that helps you steam away stress and bad mood, unparalleled stream of joy.
 

sircaw

Banned
I will be able to send you a link in a few months when I'll be unbanned (even though some wanted it to be permanent, so who knows).
Once again even though I could've worder my arguments better you'll just find some typical Era pile on and hive mind.
But basically it started with a comment he was bashing and (quite sarcastically I admit) said something like "maybe a new light system would enhance this comment?"
To which he called me something like the worst user of Era which got a bit on my nerves.

Sad bastards. From what i have heard of that site i have no idea how it survived.

You better of here, more reasonable minded people, well, not me but i have seen others. NOT ALOT. :messenger_grinning:
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
I like him, but that's plain stupid. Just look at the people around here, most of them have accomplished something in their life, it's like saying watching movies and series is a waste of time. You know what? Having fun isn't a waste of time, it's a healthy way to drive away depression and stress from those "not wasting time" works/businesses/etc. Nothing like gaming that helps you steam away stress and bad mood, unparalleled stream of joy.
I just thinks it lacks nuances but Joe Rogan is not famous for that video games are arts/entertainment which are in a productivity society a waste of time.

But that's not considering personnal growth or indirect teaching, for example I learned most of my english from games and never had to work in english classes thanks to that (and crappy english teachers)
 

sircaw

Banned
I like him, but that's plain stupid. Just look at the people around here, most of them have accomplished something in their life, it's like saying watching movies and series is a waste of time. You know what? Having fun isn't a waste of time, it's a healthy way to drive away depression and stress from those "not wasting time" works/businesses/etc. Nothing like gaming that helps you steam away stress and bad mood, unparalleled stream of joy.

His comments are probably more in tune with the teenagers that sit in their room all day playing fortnight.

Luckily i never had kids, would of been the worst parent in the world with all my strict rules.

if i had boys for example, No pizza on Wednesdays, in bed at twelve during school nights etc etc. Dad from hell. :messenger_grimmacing_

But if i had daughters, no boys allowed in the vicinity of the house until there 75. off to music and arts school with them. Preferably with nuns. GOOD DAD.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Sad bastards. From what i have heard of that site i have no idea how it survived.

You better of here, more reasonable minded people, well, not me but i have seen others. NOT ALOT. :messenger_grinning:
Yeah I used to go there often for the leaks but it got tiring quickly having to deal with sjw like minds.And I always considered that you either can joke about everything or nothing... they surprisingly didn't.

That's why I have no problem joking about my dad's death or my handicap because I don't deserve shit exactly like anybody from everywhere.

I think we are derailling the thread a bit here so maybe let's put this behind but again thank you and DeepSpace5D DeepSpace5D .
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
I just thinks it lacks nuances but Joe Rogan is not famous for that video games are arts/entertainment which are in a productivity society a waste of time.

But that's not considering personnal growth or indirect teaching, for example I learned most of my english from games and never had to work in english classes thanks to that (and crappy english teachers)

I learned a lot from it as well, especially early Assassin's Creed when they were honest about the true assassin's story and other historical things when you read inside the game. Be too productive makes many of such mentalities neglect normal human reproduction, family harmony, and chasing fake happiness until you see lots of suicide from too much stress.

Fun and joy is critical, and it's not a waste of time if you're still pretty successful with your life.
 
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sircaw

Banned
Yeah I used to go there often for the leaks but it got tiring quickly having to deal with sjw like minds.And I always considered that you either can joke about everything or nothing... they surprisingly didn't.

That's why I have no problem joking about my dad's death or my handicap because I don't deserve shit exactly like anybody from everywhere.

I think we are derailling the thread a bit here so maybe let's put this behind but again thank you and DeepSpace5D DeepSpace5D .

I hear ya BUD, PERSONALLY I CAN NOT STAND OR TOLERATE PEOPLE THAT DERAIL THREADS.

Selfish the lot of them :messenger_halo:
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
I learned a lot from it as well, especially early Assassin's Creed when they were honest about the true assassin's story and other historical things when you read inside the game. Be too productive makes many of such mentalities neglect normal human reproduction, family harmony, and chasing fake happiness until you see lots of suicide from too much stress.

Fun and joy is critical, and it's not a waste of time if you're still pretty successful with your life.
Yeah assassin's creeds were gold mines during my history classes.And you are absolutely right relaxing is not a waste of time nor having fun.
 

sircaw

Banned
Right, seems a quiet night in here and i have caused enough mischief for one day.

Get your paws of that Ban button MOD OF WAR.

Time for some uncharted four, just got to some big cathedral in Scotland, its pretty awesome.

Hugs and peace to all of you.
xxxx
 
*DISCLAIMER* I'm NOT AN INSIDER, this is all speculation

- One of the things I was curious about is the fact that PS changed the name Share -> Create

This morning there was some interesting information regarding PS5 Activities, basically deep-linking from the console menu to a specific part of the game, BUT I DO THINK THAT IS NOT ALL.

I think PS5 will let you share moments of your game, basic configurations of your game that players can download to replay your exact same situation.

Examples:

- Specific race condition, you were losing a race, you can share/create that activity (instance), to see who can overcome the deficit.
- You don't have bullets and arms while playing TLOU2, you can share that moment to see who can defeat that level without bullets.

I would like to add another example.

Say your struggling against a boss but you don't know if it's your character or just you. You create a demo to watch others play against the boss to obtain that answer.

I could see that used in Soulsbourne games alot. Heck if such a feature does exist im guessing that Demon Souls could be used to show it off.
 
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