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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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This thread is an embarrassment.
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So explain to me why they do for Sony showcase (in particulary for GT 7 with 400% zoom) if they are not biased?
Plus should i remenber to you that Alex (Dictator) is a key member of the PS5 FUD discord gang, but you're right he is not biased :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:
I don't understand why some people are so blind regarding the bias of DF against Sony. It's clear with not the same treatment when it concern Sony
You do realize that wasn't a positive review of Halo graphics right? Also did you skip all the ps exclusive vids that were very positive? Just because they don't push your bias narrative doesn't mean they are bias.
 
....Vagrant Story?

Nah. I'd love a sequel, but I don't see one coming all these years later and certainly not as a closeout trailer. Nor do I see a remake of PE ever happening.

That reads like a pipe-dream of a Square fan, to be honest.

The first leak had a modicum of possibility, except for the order of showings being off, if I were to guess.

Even so, Sony wouldn't fire everything they've got in one SoP like that. I do believe there is no way God of War II doesn't get a Fable-length teaser or better, though. It is due to see that.
 

dimaveshkin

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Sony marks the difference between PS4 and PS5 boxes
Microsoft does the opposite once again

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Frankly speaking, it makes we wonder if PS5 disk is incompatible with PS4? Other way is mostly confimed by now, but if games are cross gen, can you put PS5 disk inside PS4? Not clear enough.
 

FunkMiller

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ksdixon

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Sony marks the difference between PS4 and PS5 boxes
Microsoft does the opposite once again

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This is so stupid. Are they going to also put ''Series S'' onto that black strip of text, when that gets revealed?
Of course, it would take away a lot of confusion if MS could name their console generations and sku's clearly (ONE/SERIES for Xbox 3/4, and X/S for Pro/Normal).
 

geordiemp

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A
ccording to the director of Square Enix, the PlayStation 5 can offer images and graphics similar to those of a current PC Gamer. Well, not similar, but almost identical…. Matsuda says the PS5 is capable of offering ray traced lighting effects that are essentially the same as those found in PC games.
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"The PS5 dramatically improves video technology, with the implementation of ray tracing technology that reflects light. Compared to what you see on the PC, it's almost identical, "said Matsuda.
"The Project Athia game (working title), to be released for PS5, is an open-world game where users can freely move around the game world."

Does not tell us much as he does not say which PC graphics cards, but I assume he is referring to Nvidia tensor cores of current gen, and its open world.

Encouraging.
 
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T-Cake

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This is so stupid. Are they going to also put ''Series S'' onto that black strip of text, when that gets revealed?
Of course, it would take away a lot of confusion if MS could name their console generations and sku's clearly (ONE/SERIES for Xbox 3/4, and X/S for Pro/Normal).

I'm beginning to think there is no Series S. There's not enough room on that black strip to fit Xbox Series S text and would they also try to stick an "Optimized for Series S" sticker on the box as well? Maybe XCloud is doing better than expected and that will be the alternative to XSX.
 
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Rea

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Bo_Hazem

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Guys, if you don't like DF's work then don't go on their channel, simple as that :) You can also start your very own channel with the same kind of content, nobody is stopping you. I think you guys get mad when you don't hear what you want to hear, so like I said, the channel is most likely not for you.

Well, when you throw content on youtube, you're open to criticism. The Cherno, a much superior alternative, in a brief analysis of a small chunk provided tons of flaws, NXGamer NXGamer did a great job from his side, Kingthrash Kingthrash did a wonderful work as well, and there are plenty of other channels out there. So yes, it's not like they're the gurus out there, many have quality content, and such BS should be called out when smelled.
 

kensama

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You do realize that wasn't a positive review of Halo graphics right? Also did you skip all the ps exclusive vids that were very positive? Just because they don't push your bias narrative doesn't mean they are bias.


I have no narrative sorry for you. I'm factual.
See how they treat the Shwo of PS5 going deeply on what they can find of negative for PS5 show (GT 7 related) and see how they treat the MS show in particularly HALO which is worst than previous game on less powerful console (360). See the NX gamer and King trash videos that show many lack in many technical compartment of the game and ask you why Dictator only axe his analyze. He has a narrative (with his gang on discord trying downplaying PS5 spreading FUD about it).
 
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7 exclusives against 10. 8 vs 9 if we count Godfall as console exclusive. still, it is pretty even, not mostly.
Well I don't count Godfall, since that's not an exclusive. So indeed 7 against 10, so mostly non exclusive games. What's so wrong with saying that? The games that are non-exclusive games are huge (Fifa, RDR, Overwath, CoD) so it's not like that's a bad thing. Although most of them are just graphic improvements, but looking forward to Overwatch 2 and the HP game
 

FranXico

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It means the same game features (textures, models, sound quality, etc.). Unless they make asset packs downloadable, which will make a lot of people with data caps unhappy.
Yes, the actual respective console version of the game gets downloaded. Again, it's quite practical as one doesn't need to look for matching console names in the box.
 

THE:MILKMAN

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As much as Halo was a technical disappointment, the bigger problem I see is it seems it was the only big/AAA FP game Microsoft have for the foreseeable future and even listening to last nights RDX podcast it was clear even they were shocked at the poor showcase and that nothing was shown actually running on the XSX hardware.

I'm sure Halo will be improved before launch but I doubt they will delay it as there is literally nothing else close to being ready (2022+ for Forza, Fable, Everwild etc) to take its place.

What we all should be worried about is after this poor showing what will Sony do now? They could get cocky after this....

For weeks the word on the street was Microsoft were going to bring it and be dropping bombs left and right. They even got lucky with the May TP showcase dry run that showed where they were lacking and which gave them weeks to prepare for the big one (as well as see what Sony had) and yet we still ended up with what we got last week.

Not sure how that was possible and I would love to be a fly on the wall in Phil's postmortem meetings.
 

TBiddy

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It's fanboy-ish, and that's not the important part, extreme LOD/stream flaws shown in action, part from other flaws shown in previous "longer" videos that such people avoid like some kind of poison instead of investigating them and try to learn something out of them.

A video like that doesn't really scream "Watch this and get educated on what the issues with Infinite are". Quite the contrary, to be honest. There are much better videos out there (like that Cherno-dude). If people didn't listen to him, they won't listen to that video, which looks like it has been produced by someone who has just discovered Windows Movie Maker.
 
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Darklor01

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Guys, if you don't like DF's work then don't go on their channel, simple as that :) You can also start your very own channel with the same kind of content, nobody is stopping you. I think you guys get mad when you don't hear what you want to hear, so like I said, the channel is most likely not for you.

I think Digital Foundry are great at what they do. The backlash is about the perception of differences when certain DF members do a video that zooms in x% and really deep dives into analysis picking apart the content, and then you see the same people blatantly not even doing even close the same type of analysis. More of a gloss over. If it seems those people are picking and choosing when to do deep dive and when to gloss over, it's not a good thing.
 

FranXico

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Duh, that's strange - won't PS5 have full BC with PS4? Why the hell do they need to release two separate versions of the game? If there's something we don't know?
You can't just run PS4 code and inject RT in it. Assets are also packed differently.
Smart Delivery is also different from BC.

Publishing a game on PS4 does not exclude publishing a PS5 version.
 
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Gediminas

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Well I don't count Godfall, since that's not an exclusive. So indeed 7 against 10, so mostly non exclusive games. What's so wrong with saying that? The games that are non-exclusive games are huge (Fifa, RDR, Overwath, CoD) so it's not like that's a bad thing. Although most of them are just graphic improvements, but looking forward to Overwatch 2 and the HP game
so mostly PS exclusives, nice. another awesome show.
 

geordiemp

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Duh, that's strange - won't PS5 have full BC with PS4? Why the hell do they need to release two separate versions of the game? If there's something we don't know?

Next gen disks are 100 GB, last gen disks are 50 GB.

Is the XSX game gimped and same size as Xbox one version or will it have higher quality assets ?

Unless there is something we dont know ?

 
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NewChoppa

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Forgive me if someone’s already talked about this (y’all talk too quickly man I’m like 20 pages behind again lmao), but it seems like Polyphony Digital are currently hiring.


After translating, it reads something like this;

2020.07.22 : Added recruitment of game production assistant (part-time job)

"Check if the software, graphics, and development tools of the "Gran Turismo" series are functioning properly according to the determined procedure, find any defects, and report them.

You don't have to be good at games, but it's a rewarding job for anyone interested in making the latest games."

The fact they're putting out part time job offers just for what seems to be bug fixing insinuates that the game is to be considerably polished - and may be much closer to release than what we initially thought
 

ZywyPL

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August State of Play?

For those who only have one or the other?

That's confusing as hell... Unified box with both PS4 and PS5 logos would've been better.

You can't just run PS4 code and inject RT in it. Assets are also packed differently.
Smart Delivery is also different from BC.

Publishing a game on PS4 does not exclude publishing a PS5 version.

It is as seen on PC with RT on vs RT off... Anyway, nothing is stopping them for putting both versions on the disc, or at least store the PS5 patch on PSN so once the disc is booted on the PS5 the game gets properly updated.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Hmm... kind of want to use a vinyl wrap on that bad boy - if both plates are easily detachable, but ive read rounded corners/edges arnt nice for this.

Anyone have experience with vinyl shrink wrapping? (Also wonder if consoles generated heat and texture of plates, would pose a problem. But ive seen examples of this being used for PC cases. If so are there alternatives to more heat resistant shrink wraps?)

Edit: this is probably a very dumb idea, the amount of air bubbles would ruin results.

You can just give it a car paint job, make it metalic black ;)
 

Darklor01

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I agree a unified box is an improvement, but people have managed just fine with separate boxes per version for more than 15 years. It's not "confusing as hell".

My guess is, any cross-gen boxes would be PS4 and have a notation about PS5 features or "enhancements" ala PS4 Pro Enhanced. Any PS5 only discs will have a PS5 branding. I think that avoids confusion.
 
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