Agnostic2020
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He is talking about games. They r burned on normal blu rays and that why u can put a xsx game in it x1 original and install the game . Yes xsx plays 4k blurays but games are on normal blurays
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Mahavastu
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On the other hand, the Xbox One X/S should both support BDXL, only the OG Xbox One doesn't...
SSfox
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There is new PS Logo for all Sony 1st party, so playstation could also mean Insomniac
Neo Blaster
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Probably what was previously discussed here, PS5 version disc is incompatible with PS4 because it's BDXL while XSX version uses regular BD.
jose4gg
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kyliethicc
Member
PS5 has USB-C, WIFI 6, and BDXL discs. Just a few innovations along with DualSense. Next Generation.
XSX has the same as Xbox One X. Who needs generations?
Ass of Can Whooping
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I said months ago the XsX was an amped up Xbox One which is great.
PS5 is a new generation.
SSfox
Member
And honestly why would someone buy a PS5 game to (try) play it on PS4 to begin with.
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Neo Blaster
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They laugh because MS just cannot force publishers, they will just find a loophole like Activision did.
Gamerguy84
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Well no sleep for me as Ill be staring at my Email icon.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
It wouldn't surprise me; haven't most COD games shot for 60FPS in the past?
Part of why they've always been relatively ugly.
Thedtrain
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kyliethicc
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BD = 25 GB bluray (PS3)
BD-DL = 50 GB bluray (PS4/XBO)
BDXL = 100 GB bluray (PS5)
Looks like Xbox Series X is still using 50 GB discs.
HeisenbergFX4
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Bringing the fire today
hope you’re doing alright
Doing well thank you for asking.
Just chilling on the back deck drinking an adult beverage and about to close the laptop for the night
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Deleted member 775630
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Yeah, and that's a shame. You would think people are on the side of Microsoft on this. Because if Microsoft would've been able to make this happen, the same would happen for Sony, so all gamers would benefit from it.
kyliethicc
Member
Xbox has never said or confirmed what discs Xbox Series X will use. Only Sony has.
No, Xbox One uses 50 GB BDs for game discs. They do have UHD Blu-ray drives for 4K UHD Blu-ray movie discs.
But the games HAVE to work on the 2013 Xbox One so they have to be 50 GB BDs, same as PS4.
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Gamerguy84
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If you buy the Series X version of COD @69.99 you automatically get the XB1 version, correct?
But if you buy the XB1 version there is no upgrade path. Asking because Im sitting here with my xbox friend.
But if you buy the XB1 version there is no upgrade path. Asking because Im sitting here with my xbox friend.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
There's no way MS can be this dumb, is there?
TJC
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C9 can do 4k 120hz. We are just waiting for Cards or consoles with HDMI 2.1 ports to enable it lol.
zaitsu
Banned
You were hyping before the show and soon after that
I don't have time to quote you. I think many of us here remember what
WoahPS5 and Xbox Series X’s SSDs Are “Fantastic” Upgrades – Destroy All Humans! Developer
kyliethicc
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Smart delivery means all game discs have to work/read w/ 2013 Xbox One Blu-ray disc drive.
Hopefully they will move to 100 GB discs for next-gen only games.
But Xbox 360 only used DVDs. Only PS3 had Blu-rays.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Yep, that's how it is.
MasterCornholio
Member
It's already happening on the Sony side though. There's really no need for the policy because publishers will find a way around it which is worse for consumers in the end.
Cyberpunk 2077 will get a free upgrade for PS5 and Xbox Series X at launch
The update will be free for anyone who owns Xbox One or PS4 versions
If you buy the PS4 version it costs 10$ to upgrade to the PS5 version. But if you buy the Xbox One version you have to buy the XSX version of the game again if you want the upgrade. Instead of costing just 10$ it's going to cost consumers 70$. Just looking at the physical version by the way.
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Apollo Helios
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Ah yes for games it is BD standard, I was just saying Series X like One X support BDXL since it has Ultra HD Blu Ray player, but that is only for films true.
kyliethicc
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zaitsu
Banned
C9 -4k 120hz easly dude xD
travisktl
Member
Yes, that's correct. The $69.99 one is the cross-gen version, which gives access to both current and next gen versions.
GianEnemyCrab
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I guess the pre registration thing for PlayStation is only for the US ?
It's weird that you can't order consoles/accessories directly from the PlayStation website here, only from 3rd party retailers, at least in the NL you can't dunno about the rest of the EU
It's weird that you can't order consoles/accessories directly from the PlayStation website here, only from 3rd party retailers, at least in the NL you can't dunno about the rest of the EU
Apollo Helios
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For games... there is a distinction
They can play 4K Ultra HD films, so they *partially* support BDXL, but not where it counts as in games....
So TV, TV, TV from MS one more time.
PS3 used the full capacity 50gb blurays.
Neo Blaster
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Yep, as long MS keeps embracing current gen they cannot make a BDXL only release. I suppose we'll see two disks in their boxes: either one BDXL and one BD or two BDs.
Gamerguy84
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Just looked it up on Twitter, thats confusing haha.
SSfox
Member
1 Year GTA6 time exclusive.
kyliethicc
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I use Rtings.com and they didn't list it as supported. My bad.
Krisprolls
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From Destroy All Humans dev :
“You’ll see a revolution in next-gen games where loading time either is minimal or outright removed. Even the lower IO performance on the Xbox Series X is already a fantastic upgrade.”
“The PS5 will be the benchmark platform for CPU optimization where the goal would be to get the same end-result performance on both platforms"
Interesting... Devs look really focused on the PS5. And this dev says the goal is the same end result on both platforms.
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THE:MILKMAN
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I would hope not for something so simple but looking at the spec sheet Richard Leadbetter had it does list the drive across the XSX, One X and One S as all using a 4K UHD BD. If it was a 100GB compatible for games I'm sure it would say going by other changes/differences listed between systems shown in the specs.
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Sw0pDiller
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"We don't believe in generations"
Moridianae
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There's no way they'd open up pre-orders within the next couple of days is there? Has to be at least a week or so out...right?
My former GameStop coworkers who are still with the company have heard nothing.
My former GameStop coworkers who are still with the company have heard nothing.
Wraith Phantom
Member
No you've got it all wrong. It's not about having more money. Its about install base & ROI.
It's more likely. Xbox have to pay double ,triple more money than PS to get timed/exclusive deals. Because of their smaller user base. It would cost a lot to get publishers to ignore sales from 112 million user base.That consistently pay for games based on NPD & sales charts. MXT stats etc.
In the end install base is all that matters. Selling to 40 million people vs 112 million is heavy lost for publishers. Xbox has to pay for the sales lost & then some. There's no ROI. It's not cost effective for xbox division & it's damaging for publishers.
User base & sales charts matter. Blank cheque fantasy is over.
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LucidFlux
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Just basic Ignorance, like when I was a wee lad and bought a 32x game for my Genesis not knowing there was a difference. Granted I was 12 at the time but there's plenty of uninformed parents who think xbox is xbox and playstation is playstation, numbers and versions be damned.
kyliethicc
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For cross gen games Xbox Series X games will just be regular Blu-rays, same as Xbox One.
For next gen only games, idk. They are focused on Game Pass (all digital) and they might not want to invest in a new disc format if they think 50 GB BDs +download the rest will work. But that would make every game install require online connection. Maybe XSX will use BDXLs, but Xbox 360 only used DVDs, so idk.
I doubt Xbox games would ship with 2 different discs in box, too expensive.
Snowdonhoffen
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Also... are they really opening pre orders without giving the price?
kyliethicc
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Later on they did sure, but not back in the early years. Games weren't that big. 360 used 5 or 10 GB DVDs, so games easily fit on 25 GB.
DaGwaphics
Member
Aren't UHD Blu ray disks 100GB triple layer? One S & X can already read those.
Sinthor
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Ok....WHAT THE FUCK is going on with PS5 pre-orders? I got an email that seems to indicate that a select number of people will be chosen to pre-order the console, controllers, etc. If you don't get an invitation, you can't pre-order? What...is Sony going to cut out retail vendors at least for the pre-orders prior to the holidays or something? This seems REALLY weird. Seems to indicate that you won't be able to pre-order via Amazon, GameStop or places like that but only via Sony itself? Am I just missing something big time or has anyone else seen that? I've attached the FAQ that is linked from the page where you can indicate your interest in pre-ordering.
This. Seems. Weird.
This. Seems. Weird.
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kyliethicc
Member
Damn. Very cool Kanye!
travisktl
Member
The way it's been worded has been so confusing, so I completely understand. Haha. Here's how I understand it.
$59.99 - Standard Edition (PS4/Xbox One/PC) *PS4 can upgrade to PS5 version through PSN Store. Xbox One version cannot upgrade to Series X version*
$69.99 - Cross-Gen Version - (PS4/PS5, Xbox One/Series X)
$89.99 - Ultimate Edition - (Same as Cross-Gen version, but with bonuses and extras)
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splattered
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Yeah so by that dev/article's logic, PS5 is going to set the optimization goal for CPU in games because it's less powerful, so that must mean the Series X is going to set the SSD optimizations because the IO is slower.
Errr
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