Stiflers Mom
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Well, why would I want to take medicine if I can have the same fun without VR.
A lot of this is misconceived.VR isn’t the future. It’s a small part of the future, but the large majority of games do not benefit at all form VR, and would probably be worse in VR.
Just like 3D gaming, it’s a niche that is being pushed way too early.
AR has a much bigger future than VR, because it’s much more useful outside of gaming.
Alyx is the highest rated FPS game of the last decade. Don't be silly.Flying and racing sure, but fighting, FPS, 3D action adventure, side scrollers, sports, etc don’t really benefit at all.
Flying and racing sure, but fighting, FPS, 3D action adventure, side scrollers, sports, etc don’t really benefit at all.
FPS doesn't benefit VR? Are you on crack? It takes the first person genre to a whole new level.
Ratings don't mean anything to me. I've had more fun with metacritic 60 games than with ones rated 90+. Reviews are all politics and partnerships these days.A lot of this is misconceived.
Most game genres benefit from VR. FPS, Racing, Horror, Platformer, Stealth, Puzzle, RTS, Simulation, RPGs, all multiplayer genres - tons of genres.
Heck, VR can even bring back dead genres/game concepts like light-guns or DDR machines by recreating them virtually. I plan to own a large private virtual arcade in the future.
AR might have a bigger future, but VR is also extremely useful outside gaming - certainly as much as personal computing is. AR/VR are going to converge into the same device anyway and people will pick and choose or blend between them as the need arises.
Alyx is the highest rated FPS game of the last decade. Don't be silly.
Echo Arena is also the first virtual sport; literally a sport that is virtual.
And Action adventure is almost VR's bread and butter.
It's different in VR, but games like Titanfall, Halo, etc would be much worse in VR.
But even developed first for VR it puts massive restrictions on what you can do because of VR.If you’re talking about 1:1 port, then I agree.
The game obviously has to be developed first for VR. Half Life Alyx is a great example of this.
Titanfall's mechs would be immediately better in VR. They'd have to figure out a good way to do locomotion though. Stride shows you can do wall running just fine, so it's not like it's impossible.It's different in VR, but games like Titanfall, Halo, etc would be much worse in VR.
And the bolded is the problem. Auto running, teleporting, having to physically move around etc limits how games can be designed.Titanfall's mechs would be immediately better in VR. They'd have to figure out a good way to do locomotion though. Stride shows you can do wall running just fine, so it's not like it's impossible.
It's the other way around. Non-VR is the more restricting of the two.But even developed first for VR it puts massive restrictions on what you can do because of VR.
You ignored the video I see. It has no auto-movement or teleporting or room-scale movement.And the bolded is the problem. Auto running, teleporting, having to physically move around etc limits how games can be designed.
The mechs would look cooler in VR, but again, movement and pretty much everything else other than POV is worse.
So you need a huge room to run around in, and then what happens when you get to the end of that room/designated space? Again, that's a huge limitation. Gaming is never going to be mainly get up and run around, people just don't want that. They want to sit on their lounge and play.You ignored the video I see. It has no auto-movement or teleporting or room-scale movement.
I just said you don't need a room to play in. You sit or stand in one spot. That's how VR games typically work.So you need a huge room to run around in, and then what happens when you get to the end of that room/designated space? Again, that's a huge limitation. Gaming is never going to be mainly get up and run around, people just don't want that. They want to sit on their lounge and play.
The movement in that still has nothing on something like Halo 5.
And I'm guessing you thought 5G towers are the cause of the virus, right?VR isn't the future.
It burns your eyes out with prolonged usage.
The hard science is that blue led light permanently destroys your eyes.And I'm guessing you thought 5G towers are the cause of the virus, right?
Please. VR will be seen as healthier on the eye than any other display once varifocal displays are used in a few years. You can't argue with hard science.
Sorry I misunderstood what you said as meaning that since it has no auto movement etc that you must be physically moving around. So it's just controller movement? I know that VR games typically involve just point and teleport or controller, and that's what I'm saying is one of the big limitations of them.I just said you don't need a room to play in. You sit or stand in one spot. That's how VR games typically work.
I can tell you haven't tried VR much at all before.
Please. VR will be seen as healthier on the eye than any other display once varifocal displays are used in a few years. You can't argue with hard science.
Blue light that is barely any worse than regular displays and can be filtered.The hard science is that blue led light permanently destroys your eyes.
5g is none ionising radiation but you are low iq and don't know the facts and remember to keep your mask on that you can smell your own fart through like a good sheep. Idiot.
Teleporting isn't the norm anymore. It was in the past, but now it's just a secondary option if the game includes it.Sorry I misunderstood what you said as meaning that since it has no auto movement etc that you must be physically moving around. So it's just controller movement? I know that VR games typically involve just point and teleport or controller, and that's what I'm saying is one of the big limitations of them.
But even developed first for VR it puts massive restrictions on what you can do because of VR.
Because your eyes will naturally shift focus. Apart from blue light, a virtual forest and a real forest will be just as comfortable for your eyes.How will it be healthier on the eye than watching a TV from 2m away?
Blue led light is the most damaging light there is.Blue light that is barely any worse than regular displays and can be filtered.
Low IQ? I mean, believe that if you want, but I've clearly been laying a lot of the facts in this thread against people who can't explain their false points properly.
And if I may enquire, you seem to be anti-mask right? If so, you've just outed yourself as the simpleton of this thread. Anti-maskers are up there with flat-earthers.
Yep, we've found our resident flat-earther guys. The irony of a brainwashed individual thinking others are brainwashed.Blue led light is the most damaging light there is.
Again you really know fuck all so stfu.
You are brainwashed by the TV programming and are too stupid to research the facts.
Imagine it's 2030. You wake up, put on your AR glasses, walk the dog and your virtual pikachu in a meadow of endless flowers which is actually just your dull local field area. You get back home and feel like gaming.My issue with it is it all seems like a bit of a faff. I really couldn’t see myself bothering with making the space, and the helmet, and the wires, and shutting out the world entirely while I play.
I’ve tried it, it’s pretty cool, but it’s not worth the extra effort imo. I’m happy with gaming like a muggle.
Sit down, pick up a pad, click “go”, done.
VR isn't the future.
It burns your eyes out with prolonged usage.
How come fighter and Apache chopper pilots don't use full colour heads up in their helmets? You should know, seeming as though you think you are an expert...Maybe its really, really slow? I've been using mine for 4 years, 10+hours per week. And for my job I have to take an eye exam every year. Still perfect vision.
How come fighter and Apache chopper pilots don't use full colour heads up in their helmets? You should know, seeming as though you think you are an expert...
NOW they can't use it. It is improving every year and it will continue to do so.
Wtf are you talking about, there IS something you can do about VR sickness. People get used to it all the time. The only thing you have said that is correct is not everyone needs to enjoy VR, who the hell here says that everyone has to play VR.There is literally nothing you can do to combat motion sickness with VR. It is caused by the lack of real-world spacial awareness. Which is the very definition and point of VR.
Good lord, VR fans are the fucking Vegans of gaming. I don't care if you enjoy it. Not everyone else does. And that's okay.
No one here is forcing you to play VR they are just defending a hobby they enjoy.
"VR IS THE FUTURE, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT"
And no. For many people, you don't just "Get used" to things that make you motion sick. It's been nearly 30 years, and I still can't play Wolfenstein without getting very ill.
I and the other VR users here must really enjoy having VR sickness every day?
I didn't say I dont suffer from VR sickness. I absolutely have and can still do from time to time, especially when I first bought a headset, but I got used to VR and it hardly affects me now. Don't get me wrong, I agree VR sickness is not nice but people get over it. They can and do get used to VR.Not everyone suffers from motion sickness. Count yourselves very lucky. It sucks.
Just enjoy your VR and let others avoid it in peace.
I mean, you once said that is better to go in a VIRTUAL BAR with VIRTUAL FRIENDS through VR than go in a REAL BAR with REAL FRIENDS.Yep, we've found our resident flat-earther guys. The irony of a brainwashed individual thinking others are brainwashed.
I rely entirely on scientific papers, studies, people who report those
In this very thread, I laid out how sickness can be avoided and/or solved for everyone. Stop spreading myths with false science - we already have a anti-masker in here and that's bad enough.There is literally nothing you can do to combat motion sickness with VR. It is caused by the lack of real-world spacial awareness. Which is the very definition and point of VR.
Good lord, VR fans are the fucking Vegans of gaming. I don't care if you enjoy it. Not everyone else does. And that's okay.
VR has countless uses outside of gaming. In communication, education, work, all other forms of media, computing, and so on. The value proposition of a VR headset -a least a mature version of VR in 5-10 years will be seen as a bargain. "You're telling me I can buy this $400 headset and it will instantly give me 10 4K monitors? Man this thing is cheap!"The problem with VR is beyond gaming there's no use of VR that is practical and gaming alone is not a strong value proposition to fork out $400 for. If VR is to become mainstream it needs other sectors.
Microsoft's Hololens probably has more potential than VR at this point, especially because there are a lot more practical use cases for its technology. The reason why computers and Smartphones are considered the mainstream form factors because they have multiple sectors using the devices and have many use cases. VR currently does not.
VR COULD become a common thing in gaming, it's very unlikely to become a mainstream device that everybody should buy. Devices like the Hololens will likely replace VR by that point.
I can guarantee you that what I said before was that there are ways in which a virtual bar is better. There is no way I would say a virtual bar is universally better for everyone.I mean, you once said that is better to go in a VIRTUAL BAR with VIRTUAL FRIENDS through VR than go in a REAL BAR with REAL FRIENDS.
And that was before Covid.
Bold of you to call others "flat-earthers" or "brainwasheds".
Yes, right. Just a look at some of your posts at that hate group and we know that you are lying here.
In this very thread, I laid out how sickness can be avoided and/or solved for everyone. Stop spreading myths with false science - we already have a anti-masker in here and that's bad enough.
What sets VR apart from gaming, for me, is how it tricks my head.
I had a headset on, playing a low res, poor graphic first person view rollercoaster ride demo, and when i went over the crest of the ride and descended down, my stomach dropped. Why? I know i was sat in a living room playing a game but my body reacted as if it was real.
That's immersion taken to the next level.
On a side note, not all VR games will be screen-games in VR. VR has a lot of potential outside of the modern-day genres. When 2d moved to 3D, the first few waves of games were essentially 2D platformers with a bit of 3D thrown in; Crash, Pandemonium etc. Tomb raider broke the mould and pushed 3D further.
I want to play a point and click adventure (Broken sword vr please) where i'm essentially sat in a theatre, watching the characters on a stage. That would be pretty perfect tbh.
Disliking something is not the problem. Spreading lies and overall primitive thoughts about a technology that they can't begin to understand is the problem.I've just had a read of your comments in this thread.
You seem emotionally attached to the concept of VR. To the point where you throw insults at people who dislike it.
It's okay for others to dislike something you like. Just accept that it's not for everyone and move on.
You keep using this argument, no one is forcing you to comment, no one is forcing anyone to play VR, but you keep pretending that is the problem as you have nothing else to complain about and you just have to keep whining about things that are not actually happening.It's okay for others to dislike something you like. Just accept that it's not for everyone and move on.
Just enjoy your VR and let others avoid it in peace.