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Microsoft are going to announce The Acquisition of SEGA next Wednesday (Believe!)

Microsoft could just buy all the the studios they have so much money to burn. Better yet they could just buy Sony and win next generations by default lol.
 

acm2000

Member
That is bullshit. Sony won the console generation because of one thing and one thing only: exclusive games! Sony has the IP´s that the whole world wants to play.

MS focused all of their attention on Kinect, massive mistake, taking studios away from proper games to that shit show of an addon, without that crap the studios and everyone else wouldve carried on pumping out games.

also sony didnt win anything, they barely outsold the 360 in the end and both lost to nintendo lol
 
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Xbox used to do those deals all the time but now Sony isn't allowed?
Titanfall? Tomb Raider? Dead Rising?

As I say, what happens now when Xbox still get destroyed at market? Do they buy another 2 or 3 publishers?
They seem to be willing to destroy the entire industry if they don't get their way....
Xbox now is outright buying the Devs and IP wile Sony is still doing timed exclusive Sony need to respond and buy something.
 

Hudo

Member
Would they buy the whole of SegaSammy, then? If so, how do Sammy fit within Microsoft with their focus on pachislot and pachinko machines? And will the Japanese government give their OK?
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
Microsoft could just buy all the the studios they have so much money to burn. Better yet they could just buy Sony and win next generations by default lol.

You know Sony (or other studios) would have to agree to be bought, right?
It's not like MS runs into their HQ with money and just buys them because they feel like it.
Yes, the Zenimax acquisition is really big, but we all should take a deep breath and be realistic right now.
 

supernova8

Banned
I seriously don't understand the hype around Sega anymore, if this were the 90's yeah, but these days it is such a meh publisher just like Konami that are way past it and are basically now only running on nostalgia.

They obviously have some truly beloved franchises, but they just don't seem to fit into today's game sphere unless they are on the Switch. Personally, I would find this a waste of money unless it is a bargain buy. I know I will get a tongue lashing for this, but this is just my stance on Sega. There are simply far superior Japanese games studios that have risen to prominence that I would be prefer over Sega.

the only good game they have left is Yakuza... and even that isn't really Sega it's just the Ryu Ga Gotoku studio.
 

Bryank75

Banned
Would they buy the whole of SegaSammy, then? If so, how do Sammy fit within Microsoft with their focus on pachislot and pachinko machines? And will the Japanese government give their OK?
That is the question...hopefully if anything goes down, the government will block it.
 

Zathalus

Member
Microsoft could just buy all the the studios they have so much money to burn. Better yet they could just buy Sony and win next generations by default lol.
Microsoft has a ton of money to burn, but the Xbox division is not a major part of Microsoft. Each division gets its own budget allocated to it, Xbox is not going to be pilfering money from Azure for example.

That being said I am not downplaying how much money Microsoft has, but lets not pretend they can buy all the publishers.
 

Bryank75

Banned
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LOL, that's because SONY already OWNS those sweet first-party studios that Microsoft is still trying to catch up with. Some of you act like SONY doesn't own some of the best studios and IP´s in the whole industry.
Yeah and they could probably get access to any Disney / Marvel IP if they wanted... lets say to do a Wolverine or Deadpool game.
 
You know Sony (or other studios) would have to agree to be bought, right?
It's not like MS runs into their HQ with money and just buys them because they feel like it.
Yes, the Zenimax acquisition is really big, but we all should take a deep breath and be realistic right now.

I'm just kidding, I would never want it to happen, nor do I think it would ever happen... or will it?
 
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Zathalus

Member
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LOL, that's because SONY already OWNS those sweet first-party studios that Microsoft is still trying to catch up with. Some of you act like SONY doesn't own some of the best studios and IP´s in the whole industry.
While that is true, lets not exaggerate. They have about 10 studios that actually make good games. Microsoft has basically double that now.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
What if Microsoft makes Atlus release their games in all platforms?
What you notice from Atlus is they rarely make games for multiple platform, games like Catherine and up coming is Nocturne HD is very rare case. This even true with Vanillaware, its very rare for them to release games that available for multiple platform day one.

The only think I can see is MS is making deal with Saga to release couple of games to their system but I can't see Sega making games exclusive just for Xbox since most of their audience are in Japan which they mostly own Nintendo and Playstation systems instead of Xbox.
 

Flintty

Member

FF timed exclusive.
One of the most popular Marvel characters exclusive to PS in Avengers.
Heck even two MS owned games are still timed to PS5.

Trying to starve their competition of content, when they’re already on top, is spiteful in my opinion. This is why MS have opened their wallet. So you can blame Sony 😆
 
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LOL, that's because SONY already OWNS those sweet first-party studios that Microsoft is still trying to catch up with. Some of you act like SONY doesn't own some of the best studios and IP´s in the whole industry.
They do but now Xbox has more.
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
While that is true, lets not exaggerate. They have about 10 studios that actually make good games. Microsoft has basically double that now.

MS had several of that studios before yesterdays acquisition and we still didn't see any remarkable games.
Don't get me wrong, there were some good ones - but where are the ones matching the quality of Sony's exclusives?
That's why I just don't want to get a XSX or XSS right now - they have potential, but still have to proof they can turn that into actual games.
Still waiting for a blockbuster Rare game till that day for example...
 

ZZZZ

Member
What you notice from Atlus is they rarely make games for multiple platform, games like Catherine and up coming is Nocturne HD is very rare case. This even true with Vanillaware, its very rare for them to release games that available for multiple platform day one.
The only think I can see is MS is making deal with Saga to release couple of games to their system but I can't see Sega making games exclusive just for Xbox since most of their audience are in Japan which they mostly own Nintendo and Playstation systems instead of Xbox.
Yeah but what if Microsoft gives them a bigger budget and help them out with ports to make sure the game is ready to every platform day 1?

Again i think Atlus would be one of the situations where Microsoft would let them release it to Playstation and Switch.
Would you still be against it?
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
Yeah but what if Microsoft gives them a bigger budget and help them out with ports to make sure the game is ready to every platform day 1?

Again i think Atlus would be one of the situations where Microsoft would let them release it to Playstation and Switch.
Would you still be against it?

Of course no one would be against such a situation.
But seeing what the Yakuza 7 next-gen deal with Ryu Ga Gotoku studio looks like, MS doesn't exactly seem to care for "making games available for everyone day 1".
 
Sounds like a great deal for a Japanese company. Sell all their games and IPs to a console maker whose main market doesn't have much interest in most of the stuff you put out and whose consoles regularly get outsold 1000:1 in Japan. What could go wrong?
 
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Bryank75

Banned
FF timed exclusive.
One of the most popular Marvel characters exclusive to PS in Avengers.
Heck even two MS owned games are still timed to PS5.

Trying to starve their competition of content, when they’re already on top, is spiteful in my opinion. This is why MS have opened their wallet. So you can blame Sony 😆
FF has always been associated with PS.
Spider-man is basically a Sony character
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Yeah but what if Microsoft gives them a bigger budget and help them out with ports to make sure the game is ready to every platform day 1?

Again i think Atlus would be one of the situations where Microsoft would let them release it to Playstation and Switch.
Would you still be against it?
It isn't really about me if I would be against or not, as long as I get my games I'm happy but Why would MS let their exclusive studio release games for Playstation and Nintendo? It just wouldn't make any sense.
 
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Zathalus

Member
MS had several of that studios before yesterdays acquisition and we still didn't see any remarkable games.
Don't get me wrong, there were some good ones - but where are the ones matching the quality of Sony's exclusives?
That's why I just don't want to get a XSX or XSS right now - they have potential, but still have to proof they can turn that into actual games.
Still waiting for a blockbuster Rare game till that day for example...
They only purchased the studios recently. As for off the top of my head:

Next Fable
Avowed
Next Fallout
Starfield
Next Elder Scrolls
Next Doom
Next Wolfenstein

As for Rare, Sea of Thieves is now amazing.
 

Flintty

Member
FF has always been associated with PS.
Spider-man is basically a Sony character

Sega have been heavily associated with MS in the OG Xbox days so I guess that would make it OK to buy them out.

Sony have movie rights to Spiderman but historically, Spidey games were multiplat. Having their own studio make a game is one thing, I accept that. Locking him out of a multiplat game is spiteful 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
FF timed exclusive.
One of the most popular Marvel characters exclusive to PS in Avengers.
Heck even two MS owned games are still timed to PS5.

Trying to starve their competition of content, when they’re already on top, is spiteful in my opinion. This is why MS have opened their wallet. So you can blame Sony 😆

MS had several timed exclusive announcements before that (Yakuza 7 next-gen, The Medium).
You can't blame anyone, because both are playing the same game all the time for years.
One just decided to up the game, open the wallet and go one step further.


They only purchased the studios recently. As for off the top of my head:

Next Fable
Avowed
Next Fallout
Starfield
Next Elder Scrolls
Next Doom
Next Wolfenstein

As for Rare, Sea of Thieves is now amazing.

Like I said: The future may be bright, but we don't know how those games will look like.
The last Fallout and Wolfenstein were terrible for example.
Will Fable be great? Avowed? Or Starfield? We don't know. We can hope atm, nothing more.

And while Sea of Thieves may be good now, it's far from the epicness Rare brought before being bought by MS.
 

shubik

Member
While that is true, lets not exaggerate. They have about 10 studios that actually make good games. Microsoft has basically double that now.


Yes, and just releasing follow up titles to the already established and beloved IP´s would probably be enough to keep the success. But we all know that SONY will continue to push for new IP´s next-gen. That being said, we don´t even know if Microsoft will keep everything exclusive
 

Flintty

Member
MS had several timed exclusive announcements before that (Yakuza 7 next-gen, The Medium).
You can't blame anyone, because both are playing the same game all the time for years.
One just decided to up the game, open the wallet and go one step further.

Yup, fair comment and MS haven’t exactly been angels in the past. Tomb Raider springs to mind!

But the rumours of Sony knocking on doors to major Devs, seeking exclusivity to add another nail to the Xbox coffin - MS had to react.
 
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ZZZZ

Member
It isn't really about me if I would be against or not, as long as I get my games I'm happy but Why would MS let their exclusive studio release games for Playstation and Nintendo? It just wouldn't make any sense.
Because Atlus is in a complete different situation than Bethesda when it comes to their fan base, if they do buy Sega (i don't think that will happen), to me it wouldn't make sense not to release their games in every platform.
Atlus is already losing millions of sales not releasing Royal on Switch/PC which is a stupid business decision.
 
Hmm I could actually see this being a thing. SEGA and Microsoft had a close relationship during the DC/XBOX days.

It would also be good for SEGA's back catalogue. Microsoft would actually give a shit about it and would likely port more stuff forward.

Also ATLUS lol. Microsoft could assign a janitor to produce more content than the current ATLUS teams.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Because Atlus is in a complete different situation than Bethesda when it comes to their fan base, if they do buy Sega (i don't think that will happen), to me it wouldn't make sense not to release their games in every platform.
Atlus is already losing millions of sales not releasing Royal on Switch/PC which is a stupid business decision.
If Sega would still release their in games in other platforms after being part of Xbox then what is the point of MS buying Saga in the first place? That would be huge waste of money for them.
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
Yup, fair comment and MS haven’t exactly been angels in the past. Tomb Raider springs to mind!

But the rumours of Sony knocking on doors to major Devs, seeking exclusivity to add another nail to the Xbox coffin - MS had to react.

Yeah, and they had every right to do so. If they have the money and Zenimax was willing to sell - why not?

Sadly I would have loved to see MS doing their own exclusive deals, and polishing their own first-party studios to show they can keep up with Sony without acting like the rich super kid that has to buy the number one place with $$$.

It's like they tried for years and just gave up doing it the hard way. Now they had to open the wallet and just buy, buy, buy.
And while Sony also did a lot of shit, yesterdays acquisition destroyed a lot of overall gaming love for me personally because MS just destroyed a lot of balance.
I really bought into their "pro consumer" and "we love all gamers" talk. Sadly they meant "pro OUR consumers" and "we love all gamers who kneel before MS".
 

Flintty

Member
Sadly I would have loved to see MS doing their own exclusive deals, and polishing their own first-party studios to show they can keep up with Sony without acting like the rich super kid that has to buy the number one place with $$$.

You and me both! I still have hope they can get Halo polished and deliver an awesome experience with that. But other than Sea of Thieves, their newly created IP has been severely lacking.
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
It's all about the gamepass. They want to make sure people stay subscribed to it, a studio like Atlus adds another 4+ great games in a generation.

But they could do exactly that without buying Sega as a whole, right?
They could just pay them money to release those games on Gamepass day 1.
 

KingT731

Member
And you painting the largest corporation as a non-threat to consumers (especially with their track record spanning decades), while minimizing the very real negative impact that a large publisher buyout is about to have on the gaming industry clearly shows your own extremely advanced stage of seduction.
I like a lot of MS games and I'm surprised people don't see what the plan is. It's not to compete It's control.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
But they could do exactly that without buying Sega as a whole, right?
They could just pay them money to release those games on Gamepass day 1.
Exactly this! Why would MS waste huge amount of money to buy entire studio if Saga/Atlus still end up releasing their games in other platforms?
 

ZZZZ

Member
But they could do exactly that without buying Sega as a whole, right?
They could just pay them money to release those games on Gamepass day 1.
I believe this would be a cheaper and better solution for everyone involved, but maybe they have interest in giving studios a bigger budget to work with, something that wouldn't happen with just a gamepass deal.
Edit: I'm just speculating because the rumor is about Microsoft acquiring Sega, just trying to look in the positive side of things.
 
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T-Cake

Member
Exactly this! Why would MS waste huge amount of money to buy entire studio if Saga/Atlus still end up releasing their games in other platforms?

I really think MS should buy Saga. All those senior citizens have got lots of time/money on their hands to make gaming grow. Granny Theft Auto 5 would sell a ton.
 
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INC

Member
FF timed exclusive.
One of the most popular Marvel characters exclusive to PS in Avengers.
Heck even two MS owned games are still timed to PS5.

Trying to starve their competition of content, when they’re already on top, is spiteful in my opinion. This is why MS have opened their wallet. So you can blame Sony 😆

Sony owns the rights to spider-man, not really a shock its exclusive character (regardless if its shitty)
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
I believe this would be a cheaper and better solution for everyone involved, but maybe they have interest in giving studios a bigger budget to work with, something that wouldn't happen with just a gamepass deal.
You need to look at MS perspective, if they are putting that much money to buy whole Saga then they want their games to be exclusive on Xbox, at end of the day MS is a business, they are not working for charity here.
 
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