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Its shit like this, after all the dust has settled with the recent big games company buy, what have seen on xbox so far, gameplay-wise.

What are the launch games?
Whats coming in the first two years.

IS this how people see a WIN?

Game console launches are often times pretty damn rough... i'd say gameplay shown on PS5 systems is a win for Sony fans but not a win for the console war. Even stuff we've seen running on PS5 has been a little janky at this point.. i'm worried both companies are going to release NEW stuff (not enhanced titles) with promises of performance patches within 3-6 months just to get the titles on the shelves for launch.

 

[PaintTinJr]

?

 

[danielJackson]

That image is finding part of the "shaded" parts of the controller and then part of the "shaded" parts of Sonic's head to find a matching code...

Unless you are blind you should be able to see that the controller isn't really Sega blue lol I do have particularly good color perception though so maybe you guys just are kinda color blinded. It's obviously not the same color though.

Yeah sega logo is obviously much deeper blue and controller is more light or "electric" blue.

 

[Wraith Phantom]

I don't care if Microsoft did a good or bad deal, I'm not their shareholder so I couldn't give less of a fuck about that. So let's move past that point.

My main argument is that a competitor can't just stand still while the other one is making monopoly moves. So as a gamer, because I look at Microsoft as the reverse Midas and everything they touch turns to shit (Rare, Nokia, Mixer, etc...), I would like to see Sony compete in the IP wars. My feeling is that at this point Microsoft will try and grab anything that isn't nailed to the ground, so I'd rather see those being absorbed by a 1st party with an great record in delivering quality titles.

I'm not bothered about not being able to play any specific game, since I will always own a top gaming PC. I just don't want to see quality IP and studios drowning in the MS studios mud.

Alright Im back from footy. You do care about the deal. Otherwise you wouldn't be crying about IP's turning to shit. And it's going to happen.
its going into a service. You cant expect AAA quality in a service thats about pump & dump quick consumption. Eh man blame MS.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

I am sorry guys I just fed the troll. I could not help it. He looked so hungry for attention.

Keep on dreaming about how "YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE AN EASY PASS TO ELDER SCROLLS, STARFIELD, etc just like fable"
like YOU originally quoted me to tell me,
and during that sleep time you might even understand who the troll under shock really is.

off to ignore now

 

[Zoro7]

That image is finding part of the "shaded" parts of the controller and then part of the "shaded" parts of Sonic's head to find a matching code...

Unless you are blind you should be able to see that the controller isn't really Sega blue lol I do have particularly good color perception though so maybe you guys just are kinda color blinded. It's obviously not the same color though.

I’m blind and I resent this post!

 

[zaitsu]

That image is finding part of the "shaded" parts of the controller and then part of the "shaded" parts of Sonic's head to find a matching code...

Unless you are blind you should be able to see that the controller isn't really Sega blue lol I do have particularly good color perception though so maybe you guys just are kinda color blinded. It's obviously not the same color though.

Everyone is kinda colorblinded some more than others, color perception is most individual case in whole world. Basically colours are made in our brain. I've seen an image of those # and believed it.

 

[Sinthor]

I'm sorry to hear that man, it has been a nightmare... Just wanted to get us pumped up for some TLOU 2 news but will be mindful of content related to this madness we all facing

Non-no-no. Sorry dude... Wasn't slamming you for posting at all! I was bitching about ND changing "Outbreak Day" to whatever it's called now.. That's all! Not a big deal. Was just saying I think it's over-sensitive, even though I've BEEN effected by the damn virus. Nothing on you at all! Just me....whining. lol

 

[Joey.]

lol

That is sad.
Hopefully the people that were confused, complain.
Microsoft stupid console naming...

 

[IntentionalPun]

Everyone is kinda colorblinded some more than others, color perception is most individual case in whole world. Basically colours are made in our brain. I've seen an image of those # and believed it.

Yeah I score perfectly on any color accuracy test and noticed pretty young that I see color differences when other's don't.

Drives me nuts how much "black" clothing is actually really dark blue ink lol

 

[Dodkrake]

Everyone is kinda colorblinded some more than others, color perception is most individual case in whole world. Basically colours are made in our brain. I've seen an image of those # and believed it.

No, colorblind is a genetic condition, not everybody has it. Less than 10% males have it, in fact. And even me, as a fucking colorblind, can see that those blues are different shades.

Good thing I'm red green colorblind.

 

[Classicrockfan]

Cant believe I now have a ps5 and xbox series x locked up can’t wait to see what future holds for these systems

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

?

First of all microsoft have a much larger amount of their studios actively using UE4 AND UE5 (see epic's UE5 presentation about real time human faces) than sony ever did, so they have a ...pretty good idea of where things are going.
Second, trying to de-value such a big acquisition by saying that UE5 will be the benchmark for games like Elder Scrolls, Starlight or even Doom and microsoft is buying to ...hide xbox s inefficiencies and provide ...cannon fodder games for gamepass
are trains of thought of an upset person.
Now, do you understand or you need a more detailed answer?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Just saw a friend share this on Facebook

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Keep on dreaming about how "YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE AN EASY PASS TO ELDER SCROLLS, STARFIELD, etc just like fable"
like YOU originally quoted me to tell me,
and during that sleep time you might even understand who the troll under shock really is.

off to ignore now

I don't think bragging about how fragile your mental state is is something worth sharing to everyone here...

 

[zaitsu]

No, colorblind is a genetic condition, not everybody has it. Less than 10% males have it, in fact. And even me, as a fucking colorblind, can see that those blues are different shades.

Good thing I'm red green colorblind.

I perfectly know what condition are you reffering to. It was common folk talking. What i ment was color perception is different for everybody.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Keep on dreaming about how "YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE AN EASY PASS TO ELDER SCROLLS, STARFIELD, etc just like fable"
like YOU originally quoted me to tell me,
and during that sleep time you might even understand who the troll under shock really is.

off to ignore now

 

[oldergamer]

So they're still going to be buggy as fuck

There is no need to be upset

 

[zaitsu]

I know ive said it many times but gosh, shark is dumb.

 

[Great Hair]

The future of Microsoft, Gamepass is a Nestle-esque total domination, where they write the rules. Fuck Nestle.

 

[oldergamer]

I for one do hope MS has some sort of proper japanese presence via purchase. For years sony has got exclusives by default from japan. Something like this rumor would put that to a rest and put MS on a more even footing with Sony. Sony pushed MS to be better after MS pushed sony to be better.

Everyone wins

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

You know, I think you are undercounting my list with that picture of yours. there is only so much time I can spend responding to trolls and unpolite console warriors

 

[Bo_Hazem]

You know, I think you are undercounting my list with that picture of yours. there is only so much time I can spend responding to trolls and unpolite console warriors

See Sharky, I think you make many strange posts, and you make strange takes. But I like you.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

See Sharky, I think you make many strange posts, and you make strange takes. Overall, but I like you.

I try not to write complicated things, even when commenting on complicated subjects. I think worst case scenario is that time will show you if the things you took as "strange" are indeed strange, or not


Anyway, in the interview I posted above, both Nadella and Spencer say that they are willing to continue to invest big money to add content to their platform, so I guess all people here saying with certainty that bethesda games will come to ps5, they should take a quick read...

 

[PaintTinJr]

First of all microsoft have a much larger amount of their studios using UE4 AND UE5 (see epic's UE5 about real time human faces) than sony ever did, so they have a ...pretty good idea of where things are going.
Second, trying to de-value such a big acquisition by saying that UE5 will be the benchmark for games like Elder Scrolls, Starlight or even Doom, and microsoft is buying to ...hide xbox s inefficiencies and provide ...cannon fodder games for gamepass
are trains of thought of an upset person.
You understand or you need a more detailed answer?

Why would I be upset? I have nothing against Xbox as a platform - despite hoping GP fails and Xss is a flop because I think both are bad for the industry - I'm okay with them buying that company, as I don't buy a lot of 3rd party games. Konami back in the day - before the MG5 sending developers to clean toilets in their gyms - and the occasional Ubisoft game, and Sega on Nintendo systems since the cube, but I largely buy platform exclusives, so they could buy Activision, EA, whoever, as well, and if the games were great and next-gen fidelity at Demon's Souls level, then I'd buy the XsX for them.

The acquisition is only worth what its worth to Microsoft, with $7billion on first party development I would expect Sony to produce more games and new IPs going by the line-up that they delivered to turn the tide in the PS3/360 generation.

People worrying about Sega being bought is odd IMO - and I'm certainly not worried as you seem to imply. The only company that could truly derive the most value out of that acquisition would be Nintendo - for all the unique IPs from the 8bit and 16bit days that with Sega's trademark tunes would play to Nintendo's audience if Nintendo re-imagined those games - but they would never buy them. Sega as an acquisition for Xbox is for PS3/360 gen onwards IPs(and a bit of dreamcast), and that's okay but still like a Rare situation for perfect dark/killer instinct of difficulty to keep going - which Microsoft probably don't want that risk, hence buying a complete umbrella company(Zenimax) that simplifies their creative risk relationship that caused them to waste billions on xbox original games.

I think anyone being honest about the situation would say that Sony have done well to formulate creating successful games, and Microsoft haven't. So buying companies that have done well with a proven technique to create successful games is Microsoft's cheapest option to provide content for XsX and gamepass IMHO.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I try not to write complicated things, even when commenting on complicated subjects. I think worst case scenario is that time will show you if the things you took as "strange" are indeed strange, or not

Well, at least I feel you're genuinely strange, but enjoy your company here. We all have our strange takes, aren't we? I have a soft spot for you since you've pre-ordered a PS5 from my beloved company.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I need to go back to this specific screenshot I've made previously. This is probably the most raytraced screenshot! Just look at the details of the textures on the wall casting dynamic, raytraced shadows! Overall graphics is wonderful! I think Sony should first acquire Bluepoint, and let them produce their own game for the first time!

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The future of Microsoft, Gamepass is a Nestle-esque total domination, where they write the rules. Fuck Nestle.

To be fair consumer goods companies like that have a different brand for just about every product. The reason why it's like that is to differentiate products and they must be pretty good at when you can have like 20 different chocolate bar brands when the core product could probably be the same so it could be consolidated to a few brands with variations.

ALso, global companies like that have different brands around the world for the same product due to history. Gaming has the same game name in every country.

For example in Canada, just skimming the brands I've never seen Dreyer's ice cream, Chef-Mate (don't even know what that is), Callier, Goobers, Poland Spring, and Movenpick (which was a self serve restaurant in Toronto) I think all disappeared 10 years ago.

 

[MistBreeze]

If there is a war maybe sony can manage

they managed them selves well out of ps3 era

 

[Saberus]

That is sad.
Hopefully the people that were confused, complain.
Microsoft stupid console naming...

Bet it was the A-holes with the Bots.. couldn't tell the difference.. hahaha

 

[Knitted Knight]

Only way if those studios shut down is if Gamepass fails. But guess what, MS just took over the PC market.

Way off mark. For every stakeholder in gaming (from MS's very competition like Sony, Nintendo, Google etc, to gamers) you have to thank god that MS is still the dumb kid on the block taking the long, most arduous route to success. Not only are they still children on the Gaming PC market (compared to Steam + Epic and their respective walled wardens) after this acquisition; but this purchase does also little to move the needle on the console space. Merely a salvo to boost pre-orders and provide something to their diehard fans to talk about.... cause we know they ain't gaming those acquisitions until late 2021 or 2022 the least (the droughts continue).

MS is following the Netflix model by the book (which shows their lack of ideas) but on the gaming space... bleeding money as they do. At least Netflix has the 150m+ userbase to excuse the bleeding and is global, MS doesn't. A smarter way of going about dominating the PC market would be to simply get it over with, and instead of bleeding billions for over a decade+, simply buy out Valve for 10-25 billion. Instant access to 10s of millions of users hooked to Steam like a drug - ready to be milked by Gamepass or anything else (they'll take it and "like" it).

Instead MS bleeds smaller amounts overtime, continuously, without achieving their end goal. The definition of dumb. Outside of their monopoly on Windows and Office (and the server farms they bought thanks to those monopolies aka Azure), they've failed at practically everything for this very reason - incompetence. They're still launching a console this November with no big AAA exclusive, a year long drought at that. The man at the helm still said he doesn't care if you buy the console, still overpromised and underdelivered for 6 years, and still had to spend 7 billion to boost his pre-orders. Running joke.

With that said, by law of averages alone; content, and quality content at that will arrive from MS in 2022/2023/2024. So they'll have some AAA bangers to dangle like a carrot but most of the content will be tailored to their goal of becoming the Netflix of gaming with Gamepass, aka AA's with AAA shine, GAAS etc... aka fodder for the hardcore barring some gem. Inevitably this will put pressure on Sony's projected sales of 150 million consoles. Which is why Sony should be looking into acquiring studios and spending money wisely. A lot can be done with 2-3B over 3 years.... a lot of independent studios are up for grabs, hungry, fresh with new ideas, that; purchased individually, provide way more bang for the buck. Remedy, Bluepoint, Supermassive ... list is endless. Insomniac is the golden model to follow wherever possible. Instead of that MS bought a publisher with a lot of established IP's but with a slate of poor recent outings that failed to grab the market. In that sense it's a positive that they were bought - cause maybe massive layoffs and studio closures were on the table for Zenimax. It's not positive that, if that were the case, failed direction, ideas, vision and management is getting rewarded with a clean slate. That will eventually snowball into all sorts of bad things... it's merely postponement.

I do agree with the general idea that Sony should not stay still. Those who stay still and can't see the moves for what they're are dumb. MS is consolidating content. Sony should do the same, or be left out. Consolidation will continue - and you better be an active player rather than a loser left in the dust. But you also don't have to be dumb and throw fuck you money at your problems.

 

[Dry_Kill_Logic_87]

First of all microsoft have a much larger amount of their studios actively using UE4 AND UE5 (see epic's UE5 presentation about real time human faces) than sony ever did, so they have a ...pretty good idea of where things are going.
Second, trying to de-value such a big acquisition by saying that UE5 will be the benchmark for games like Elder Scrolls, Starlight or even Doom and microsoft is buying to ...hide xbox s inefficiencies and provide ...cannon fodder games for gamepass
are trains of thought of an upset person.
Now, do you understand or you need a more detailed answer?

3 emojis in one post ?
dude, how old are you ?

 

[iamvin22]

Alright Im back from footy. You do care about the deal. Otherwise you wouldn't be crying about IP's turning to shit. And it's going to happen.
its going into a service. You cant expect AAA quality in a service thats about pump & dump quick consumption. Eh man blame MS.

Boom. Someone gets it. Don't expect AAA games from these studios. This is about just putting out constant aa games. This is the same game plan that netflixs is doing.

Bethesda already wanted to sell and they came up big so of course they dropped the ips. Most definitely isn't worth what they spent and I doubt they will get a r.o.i.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

Why would I be upset? I have nothing against Xbox as a platform - despite hoping GP fails and Xss is a flop because I think both are bad for the industry - I'm okay with them buying that company, as I don't buy a lot of 3rd party games. Konami back in the day - before the MG5 sending developers to clean toilets in their gyms - and the occasional Ubisoft game, and Sega on Nintendo systems since the cube, but I largely buy platform exclusives, so they could buy Activision, EA, whoever, as well, and if the games were great and next-gen fidelity at Demon's Souls level, then I'd buy the XsX for them.

The acquisition is only worth what its worth to Microsoft, with $7billion on first party development I would expect Sony to produce more games and new IPs going by the line-up that they delivered to turn the tide in the PS3/360 generation.

People worrying about Sega being bought is odd IMO - and I'm certainly not worried as you seem to imply. The only company that could truly derive the most value out of that acquisition would be Nintendo - for all the unique IPs from the 8bit and 16bit days that with Sega's trademark tunes would play to Nintendo's audience if Nintendo re-imagined those games - but they would never buy them. Sega as an acquisition for Xbox is for PS3/360 gen onwards IPs(and a bit of dreamcast), and that's okay but still like a Rare situation for perfect dark/killer instinct of difficulty to keep going - which Microsoft probably don't want that risk, hence buying a complete umbrella company(Zenimax) that simplifies their creative risk relationship that caused them to waste billions on xbox original games.

I think anyone being honest about the situation would say that Sony have done well to formulate creating successful games, and Microsoft haven't. So buying companies that have done well with a proven technique to create successful games is Microsoft's cheapest option to provide content for XsX and gamepass IMHO.

First of all your underlined start phrase speaks volumes on itself about being upset or not
Then, when exactly is sony dropping 7billion on its first party studios? I guess I missed that announcement. fact is that sony spends -and is able to spend- peanuts in comparison to that money to build their own set of content.
Lastly, you still miss the larger point here, microsoft is not competing with sony anymore. Visible proof of that for you is that they have gone multi-device. Sony is still selling to users the old-school model of console video games. Thats ok, but within the generation starting they will have a serious disadvantage. Even its own customers will prove an obstacle, because of what they preach to their customers.
Microsoft is already competing with the tech giants that aim in the not so distant future for a big slice of gaming entertainment, and you should judge their moves under that prism in order to understand better what they are doing.

3 emojis in one post ?
dude, how old are you ?

old enough to drop you in my ignore list I guess

Well, at least I feel you're genuinely strange, but enjoy your company here. We all have our strange takes, aren't we? I have a soft spot for you since you've pre-ordered a PS5 from my beloved company.

Two Bo, I preordered TWO not one

 

[MastaKiiLA]

I for one do hope MS has some sort of proper japanese presence via purchase. For years sony has got exclusives by default from japan. Something like this rumor would put that to a rest and put MS on a more even footing with Sony. Sony pushed MS to be better after MS pushed sony to be better.

Everyone wins

Sorry, but there is no miracle known to man that can give MS any presence in this part of the world, short of buying Sony or Nintendo. Sega is not winning anyone anything here. An American console simply can't win here.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

hmmm Nintendo is second in UK. So does being 3rd place mean your popular?? This what we are doing now championing last place?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Two Bo, I preordered TWO not one

 

[MasterCornholio]

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

 

[PaintTinJr]

First of all your underlined start phrase speaks volumes on itself about being upset or not
Then, when exactly is sony dropping 7billion on its first party studios? I guess I missed that announcement. fact is that sony spends -and is able to spend- peanuts in comparison to that money to build their own set of content.
Lastly, you still miss the larger point here, microsoft is not competing with sony anymore. Visible proof of that for you is that they have gone multi-device. Sony is still selling to users the old-school model of console video games. Thats ok, but within the generation starting they will have a serious disadvantage. Even its own customers will prove an obstacle, because of what they preach to their customers.
Microsoft is already competing with the tech giants that aim in the not so distant future for a big slice of gaming entertainment, and you should judge their moves under that prism in order to understand better what they are doing.

Some of us have been gaming so long that a zen state is reached about the ins and outs of gaming business. I couldn't get upset about it if I wanted to because of time constraints. I've got two young kids and even anger towards scalpers like you buying up two or more PS5's - that you won't play - so I couldn't pre-order it already, has to be scheduled in 5sec lots.

Gamepass on every device sounds great, but if you've every tried to play a game like Death Stranding on 4K smartphone - I have - on remoteplay with virtually no-lag and realised that the experience is destroying your enjoyment of a great game, you'll quickly conclude that only games designed for that lowest common denominator setup will be fun, and that's not cutting edge next-gen gaming.

So in that respect you are very correct, Sony with their next-gen sales pitch aren't a competitor to Microsoft with last-gen upres and frame doubling. But then 3D games in-general don't really age well when a new benchmark is set, so maybe it will be Microsoft at a disadvantage - even if next-gen consumers... like most of us in this thread become a smaller niche of gaming.

 

[VargasPaPuM]

As everybody predicted. Xbox produced an extremely limited amount of xbox's to express "extreme demand" while Sony tweeted mainly to apologies for not meetings demands and catastrophic preorders, websites crashing everywhere.

 

[Wraith Phantom]

I need to go back to this specific screenshot I've made previously. This is probably the most raytraced screenshot! Just look at the details of the textures on the wall casting dynamic, raytraced shadows! Overall graphics is wonderful! I think Sony should first acquire Bluepoint, and let them produce their own game for the first time!

Great shot. But they said RDNA1.LOL

We all know who's been acquired house marque, Bluepoint ,Kojipro & there's also a new internal studio in san diego. Thats 4 studios.Coming into next gen.And they will release games for us to play.PS seem to only declare acquisitions when that studio's dropped a good selling game. Let the studio show their work. Claim it.Action not talk. People don't even know kojiprod got massive credits on HZD. PS really like the organic building of studios.

But the latter part all studios have to pitch games and I heard shuhei is on the decision table. You cant come up with any willy nilly shit ,aint no passion project dross there. You see how many times shuhei told Santa Monica to come back with a better God of War game. That was after spending over 100 mill. Not only your prototype build has to be fire, You have to come up with a game not on the market or inhouse stable. It ain't easy at PS studio. And then you have to be at a technical high level to be at the table. No joke at PS studios.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

Some of us have been gaming so long that a zen state is reached about the ins and outs of gaming business. I couldn't get upset about it if I wanted to because of time constraints. I've got two young kids and even anger towards scalpers like you buying up two or more PS5's - that you won't play - so I couldn't pre-order it already, has to be scheduled in 5sec lots.

Gamepass on every device sounds great, but if you've every tried to play a game like Death Stranding on 4K smartphone - I have - on remoteplay with virtually no-lag and realised that the experience is destroying your enjoyment of a great game, you'll quickly conclude that only games designed for that lowest common denominator setup will be fun, and that's not cutting edge next-gen gaming.

So in that respect you are very correct, Sony with their next-gen sales pitch aren't a competitor to Microsoft with last-gen upres and frame doubling. But then 3D games in-general don't really age well when a new benchmark is set, so maybe it will be Microsoft at a disadvantage - even if next-gen consumers... like most of us in this thread become a smaller niche of gaming.

Congratulations for your kids, but you are dead wrong and offending by calling me a SCALPER!
Neither PS5 is for reselling. One is for me, one is for another family member.

Then, your definition of which games are to be enjoyed and how, ... cool and all, but its just your definition.
Also, you seem to miss the fact that gamepass is not just about availability. more than that its about providing value to a platform.
You can enjoy all games that will be on gamepass in your 75'' dolby vision panel & home theatre, not just your mobile or your laptop.

Lastly, its like you said, a "next-gen sales pitch" for sony. And if you are calling yourself someone who "has been gaming for so long that has reached a zen", I suggest you re-think how for example a ps3-gen remake, with exactly the same gameplay, has you considering it "cutting edge next gen gameplay", or even what is "next-gen gameplay" on miles morales extension, because maybe, just maybe that sony sales pitch is good enough to trick you and your zen, like I generally said in the post you quoted.

my two cents

 

[Zero707]

Wow this Thread is one for the ages

 

[Captain Hero]

Metal Gear Solid remake..

Please be true

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Great shot. But they said RDNA1.LOL

We all know who's been acquired house marque, Bluepoint ,Kojipro & there's also an new internal studio in san diego. Thats 4 studios.Comig into next gen.And they will release games for us to play.PS seem to only declare acquisitions when that studio's dropped a good selling game. Let the studio show their work. Claim it.Action not talk. People don't even know kojiprod got massive credits on HZD. PS really like the organic building of studios.

But the latter part all studios have to pitch games and I heard shuhei is on the decision table. You cant come up with any willy nilly shit aint no passion project dross here. You see how many times shuhei told Santa Monica to come back with a better God of War game. That was after spending over 100 mill. Not only your prototype build has to be fire, You have to come up with a game not on the market or inhouse stable. It ain't easy at PS studio. And then you have to be technical high level to be at the table. No joke at up there.

I mean, fallout engine feels like early PS3 games, even PS2 is still far superior. Would they spend another $1-2B for all those titles in this gen? Can't see that.

 

[FranXico]

Why is Ed trolling Xbox stuff so much lately?

 

[INC]

Why is Ed trolling Xbox stuff so much lately?

Because he has a sense of humour, unlike 99% of the gaming community

 

[VargasPaPuM]

Why is Ed trolling Xbox stuff so much lately?

Maybe they are going to be his new boss