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[IbelieveInGenerations]

Where is the PC community outrage when a new video card releases that makes existing games play a lot better?
Is everyone mad as fucking hell because the new technology didn't come with its own custom new game built only for this technology?
Isn't it good enough that your new system plays all stuff (existing and upcoming) way better than your old one did?

If You want to play already released Xbox games, theres a console for you and thats the Xbox One X

 

[Isa]

That DF bit mentioning DoA6's 4k mode has me quite happy. When I tried it across my X and Pro it made me quite sick, that's how bad the frame rate was. I really hope the PS5 also manages to impress with these features, both system-side boost mode and quick resume because that actually looks really cool. I really hope that quick resume also includes streaming apps such as Amazon and Youtube, because it sucks slowly bouncing back and forth between them and a game.

Loving all the news. I hear someone mention that these outlets are having to play hot potato with the Series X due to low supply, so they have a limited time with each unit before passing on to the next group. Any truth to this?

 

[Tripolygon]

The data throughput is weak as fuck. How can the external SSD be close to 100% faster than the internal?

Interesting but i would guess probably because the OS is doing other things on the internal SSD while external SSD does not have any activity on it.

Nope, the external SSD is the bottleneck. Writing is generally slower than reading.

internal to external = writing
External to internal = reading

 

[Kokoloko85]

Not sure what you were expecting from games that were not made with SSD in mind, these games were clearly coded for HDD. You aren't gonna see crazy fast loading unless the game was made for SSD.

I get what you mean, but Spider man wasn’t made for SSD either and it loaded way faster than the PS4 version.
But maybe thats the rare case as nothing else has been shown from original PS4 games/boost mode on PS5

 

[iconmaster]

"We have not played next-gen games."

43 days to come up with something, MS.

 

[M.W.]

Dang, 12 BC titles in quick resume

 

[deriks]

Impressive new numbers... for old games. But at least is better than past gen "I have a new Netflix box"

Also, the developers of Scorn said that will have stuff next month, so I'm excited to see this. We need some sugar

 

[NullZ3r0]

That's pretty fucking impressive.

Even more impressive knowing its pure brute force, no optimizations. We should see native games with single digit load times.

 

[diffusionx]

Why is this important?

 

[RoadHazard]

The load times reported are very unimpressive to me. Many games at 25-30 seconds. Yes, these are current gen games, running in BC, but that's no better than your average PC. Which I guess is what the XSX is in this regard. The PS5 seems MASSIVELY more ambitious in this regard. Not only with its much faster SSD, but also the hardware customizations Sony has made to remove all I/O bottlenecks. Seems like MS hasn't really done the same, so the PS5 is gonna have a huge advantage in data loading (larger than the spec sheets show).

 

[JLB]

"We have not played next-gen games."

43 days to come up with something, MS.

Theres a presidential candidate to be voted in less time that didnt present anything yet /s
In reality, yes, its a bit dissapointing. But I guess is part of the social media hype build up, show a bit day by day, and so.

 

[Tripolygon]

920GB available from freshly formatted external expansion storage.

 

[LostDonkey]

Why is this important?

Playground bragging rights.

 

[Eliciel]

This would be intersting to see side by side with PS5 to be honest.
We know these values are going to be better vs. last Gen. The real question is how to they compare Intra-Gen..
Sony, where art thou?

 

[scalman]

So emulation uses save states basically. Next gen games work the same?

would be nice

 

[TriSuit666]

Salt and not being impressed are different things. I wouldn’t expect a fanboy to be able to tell the difference though.

Definitely a ready salted taste going on.

 

[dottme]

You know feature are in development. The fact that the timing is changing slightly isn’t surprising.
They might slow down when they are adding fixes for discovered bugs and accelerate as the optimize them.

There’s nothing to see here.

 

[RasAlGhoul]

Definitely a ready salted taste going on.

Wat? I’m sure PS5 fanboys are real salty over the Series S/X SSD lol.

 

[Orky]

Wtf is wrong with you? Lol the fucking concern. Ridiculous. The festes all have been on not final hardware nor Software. So let’s wait until the official retail units arrive.

 

[semicool]

Textbook FUD thread right here OP

 

[ResilientBanana]

Boy, you got'em. Preorder canceled.

 

[M.W.]

It's still a work in progress.

 

[hemo memo]

This quick resume feature is useless to me. Why would I play more than one game at a time or jump between 3?

 

[RoboFu]

920GB available from freshly formatted external expansion storage.

oh shit o didn’t even realize the external card Was extra and that there was an internal storage! Lol that’s awesome

 

[MiguelItUp]

You know feature are in development. The fact that the timing is changing slightly isn’t surprising.

Exactly. This video was shown previously at a point where things may not be 1:1 but the video was enough to get the point across. If someone were to be so ridiculous over a few seconds, then it's pretty ridiculous.

The feature is there, and it's functional. That's the key element here.

 

[ManaByte]

920GB available from freshly formatted external expansion storage.

Learn about what formatting a HDD means.

 

[NullZ3r0]

So console "backward compatibility" keeps 30 FPS games @ 30 FPS even with your new "rig." That's not very good.

So the Series X is supposed to have the power to re-write game code?

 

[cormack12]

The load times reported are very unimpressive to me. Many games at 25-30 seconds. Yes, these are current gen games, running in BC, but that's no better than your average PC. Which I guess is what the XSX is in this regard. The PS5 seems MASSIVELY more ambitious in this regard. Not only with its much faster SSD, but also the hardware customizations Sony has made to remove all I/O bottlenecks. Seems like MS hasn't really done the same, so the PS5 is gonna have a huge advantage in data loading (larger than the spec sheets show).

They are pretty much equivalent of PC. It's just like swapping an old HDD for an SSD at the moment. If you're expecting Sonys SSD to suddenly have all its features available to make BC multi plats load faster then you're going to be disappointed. It's an inherent benefit by upgrading to SSD but not an engineered one until compared with 1st Party PS5 only or multi plats that don't support HDD. Are you expecting the PS5 to load the above games noticeably faster than XSX?

The difference for RDR2 makes me happy, very happy. I read through all this thread and damn at some of the comments. We should all be excited that whatever we've chosen we get this massive fucking leap in loading times!!!

 

[scalman]

but games can run just from internal as they said. external just to keep games not run them ?

 

[SliChillax]

Has anyone tested yet the automatic HDR for SDR games?

 

[M1chl]

Learn about what formatting a HDD means.

GB (TB) to GiB (TiB), which is with Windows, on linux this change would not occur. Well some maybe, but it would be in MB, not GB...

 

[MiguelItUp]

Are people actually salty that Series X previews went out before PS5? Jesus Christ people, lmao. My understanding is that we're getting an assortment of hands on previews this week from both systems. Chill, haha.

 

[DJT123]

So the Series X is supposed to have the power to re-write game code?

I was implying it's not great backward compatibility compared to say, PC. It isn't.

 

[DForce]

So console "backward compatibility" keeps 30 FPS games @ 30 FPS even with your new "rig." That's not very good.

Because there are games that are locked to 30fps.

 

[DJT123]

Because there are games that are locked to 30fps.

Yes, I know the technical reason. They're fixed/ not unlockable or scaleable.

 

[AgentP]

Has anyone tested yet the automatic HDR for SDR games?

Yes, because magic will make at the assets and lighting HDR suddenly.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

I was implying it's not great backward compatibility compared to say, PC. It isn't.

Honestly, it just comes across as salty to everyone else.

 

[Reindeer]

I get what you mean, but Spider man wasn’t made for SSD either and it loaded way faster than the PS4 version.
But maybe thats the rare case as nothing else has been shown from original PS4 games/boost mode on PS5

They only showed Spiderman for PS5 so far, that version could very well have optimisations specific to PS5.

 

[gamechanger87]

They are pretty much equivalent of PC. It's just like swapping an old HDD for an SSD at the moment. If you're expecting Sonys SSD to suddenly have all its features available to make BC multi plats load faster then you're going to be disappointed. It's an inherent benefit by upgrading to SSD but not an engineered one until compared with 1st Party PS5 only or multi plats that don't support HDD. Are you expecting the PS5 to load the above games noticeably faster than XSX?

The difference for RDR2 makes me happy, very happy. I read through all this thread and damn at some of the comments. We should all be excited that whatever we've chosen we get this massive fucking leap in loading times!!!

For the most part, yes some people are irrationally expecting massive improvements with BC games even though its not the case.

I sometimes wonder if Sony's plan is to let MS take the heat for things that will apply to both and let the air out later (cross generation games / new SSDs not magically making old games load in two seconds, etc.).

 

[DJT123]

Honestly, it just comes across as salty to everyone else.

It wasn't meant to, lol. BC is very exciting for consoles besides that issue.

 

[gamechanger87]

I get what you mean, but Spider man wasn’t made for SSD either and it loaded way faster than the PS4 version.
But maybe thats the rare case as nothing else has been shown from original PS4 games/boost mode on PS5

They showed the re-mastered game which was re-built for PS5. You should expect similar improvements with Gears 5 and other games getting a full re-build.

 

[Lone Wolf]

This quick resume feature is useless to me. Why would I play more than one game at a time or jump between 3?

I guess you wouldn’t. For me, when I’m done playing Cyberpunk, my wife will probably quick resume Assassins Creed Valhalla. Then maybe I’ll go back to Cyberpunk. See how that would benefit?

 

[TriSuit666]

Wat? I’m sure PS5 fanboys are real salty over the Series S/X SSD lol.

"To manipulate the fears of others, you must first master your own. Are you ready to begin?"

 

[CatLady]

For all this "i have a pc so Xbox exclusives don't matter" or "why bother with Xbox when I can just upgrade my pc??", you just know a healthy chunk of these people will not be able to run next gen games on their current rig or be able to afford the upgrades that bring it in line with Series X performance anyways. It's a pacifier.

No doubt. If they did there wouldn't be so much port-begging for Bethesda games on PS5

 

[Investor9872]

Seems like MS, besides the pre-orders, is doing everything else right with this gen's launch, while Sony is shooting themselves in the foot by keeping everything closer to the chest, and not divulging much information with less than 2 months to go before launch, which can be quite frustrating for the average consumers.

 

[Tripolygon]

Learn about what formatting a HDD means.

Let me show you how the conversion works so you won't have to rely on a website in the future. You're not telling information i don't already know.

There is a lot of misunderstanding going on here. This is not necessarily directed at you but just general misunderstanding of what all these conversions mean and are. This is the reason why the unit of conversion was set by the IEC.

A Gibi is binary prefix used in computer science and communications it represents 2 to the power of 30 but Giga in decimal system which we use in real life is 10 to the power of 9. That is why all your HDD, SSD, Flash, RAM Bandwidth is represented in the Decimal system because that is what we use.

Storage makers represent Gigabyte as 1 billion bytes and storage is increased in the power of 2 meaning 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128GB.

To convert Gibibyte to Gigabyte, first find how many Gigabytes in a Gibibyte

(2^30/10^9) = 1.073741824GB so there are ~1.074 Gigabytes in 1 Gibibyte

Now lets translate that to PS5 and XSX

To convert Gibibyte to Gigabyte

PS5 = 768Gibibytes multiplied by 1.074 = 825Gigabyte

To convert Gigabyte to Gibibyte

XSX = 1TB = 1024GB = 1/1.074 x 1024 = 953Gibibyte to go back to Gigabyte multiply by 1.074 = 1023.5 = 1TB

This is why when you plug in a 128GB SSD in a computer you see you only have 119GB of storage and not 128GB but beside it you see the number of bytes as 127 billion. This is not accounting for other quirks that has to do with block sizes and how files are stored in each cell and block group.

When i say format, i mean preparing the storage and setting up the file system. Xbox One uses NTFS, my guess is Series X will use the same, but external will be exFAT.

 

[cormack12]

Yes, because magic will make at the assets and lighting HDR suddenly.

They have an ML auto HDR emulation. They use it on Halo 5, it's meant to be decent and better than say RDR's fake HDR but it would be interesting to hear from some owners for sure.

 

[NeonGhost]

When are we gonna see the games the backwards compatibility team has worked on ?

 

[hemo memo]

I guess you wouldn’t. For me, when I’m done playing Cyberpunk, my wife will probably quick resume Assassins Creed Valhalla. Then maybe I’ll go back to Cyberpunk. See how that would benefit?

You are right. Didn’t think of that. Good taste in games both of you

 

[SafeOrAlone]

Any word on how Halo MCC is playing on Series X? I've never played it, but I'm starting to assume it's the type of game that will require the developers touch for improvements?