Yep. It's the new bloom. Forgettable.
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Grubb/EvilBoris: Xbox Auto HDR is one of nextgen's coolest features
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Yep. It's the new bloom. Forgettable.
Old games do not get worse. At least in most cases gameplay still hold up and additional features that make those games look better are always welcome. Just like you add AA and AF on PC in older games to make them look better.
There are still plenty of good old games that I still haven't played. And there are still games which still need to get compatible (but I guess we won't see additional original xbox and 360 titles).
I also hope microsoft will still provide some x-patches (for the next x) also for older current gen titles, just like they did with some xb360 titles. Also I would gladly see, that every xb360 game would run in higher res etc.
Roberts
Member
This is super shallow thinking. Let's never listen to Sabbath or The Stones. Forget Lawrence of Arabia and Seven Samurai can go fuck itself. Also, there will be new games.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
You have to know where to put the data. The AI needs to measure where it goes and how to blend the image but more importantly when to not use it.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Yeah, however this was mentioned in that video that sometimes is applied where it should not be. Banjo Kazooie is that example. But yeah you are right. did not think about that one.
What is it to you what people buy their games consoles for? Good games are good games.
How do I play Metal Gear Solid 3 officially with hdr and in 4k on PC?
You came into an Xbox focused thread, where people were talking about a feature that's very specific to BC, and threw a hissy fit that people were happy it existed. Maybe just read the topic, ignore it and move on if you don't have anything to add to the discussion?
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
It wont be pefrect thats for sure but its should be vastly improved over other "fake" HDR methods.
SpartanN92
Banned
Be sure to pick up Halo: The Master Chief. Collection. It will shine in HDR.
That logic is not relevant at all, and you know it. Just because they're "media" doesn't mean there's any logical connection here.
Gamers are stupid. They'll spend $500 on an emulator, which is all the XSX will be until mid to late 2021 when the first round of true next gen games come out. It's hilarious.
How do you play World of Warcraft on Xbox, or TLOU? Newsflash: different games come on different systems, and if you're trying to validate your platform because of a handful of old HDR/4K-enabled exclusives that aren't on PC or other platforms, then you have no real weight to your argument.
I'm adding things to the discussion, you just don't like what I have to say. It doesn't make me any less right; you can think whatever you want of me. Makes no difference either way.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It's more than just cool for 5 minutes. When done right, it makes the game look 25-40% better. This is a great feature in the next-gen Xbox consoles.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Are you buying it?
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Just a reminder that all the next-gen 3rd party games will run and look better on the XSX.
DrumNBassDanTTV
Member
You could argue that, but it would be stupid
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Deleted member 775630
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That's with every improvement of systems... You'll play Demon Souls and be like, oh my god this is amazing. And after a couple of months that's just the standard and you forget that it blew you away. But the experience itself is still better.
I have a bunch of games that I haven't finished or even started on Xbox One. In a month I'm going to be able to play all of those games with improvements. The next-gen games will come, but for now, I know I have a ton of stuff I can play with tangible benefits for playing them on the Series X that I pre-ordered. I was planning on pre-ordering a PS5, but there aren't any launch titles I'm interested in. If I knew for certain I could finish Ghost of Tsushima (about to start act 3) with enhancements I'd do it but there's no information out there on whether it will be upgraded or if saves would transfer if it was. PS5 will be something I wait a year or more on unless I get a good trade-in deal since I just have a bigger Xbox library to choose from.
What are you talking about?
"You can just use PC to play old games."
"What about this old game in 4k and HDR?"
"NO, YOU CAN'T PLAY THAT. HAVEN'T YOU HEARD OF EXCLUSIVES? YOUR ARGUMENT HAS NO WEIGHT!"
For those of us that love old games, this has value. This and other Xbox BC enhancements make it the best place to play many, many games.
Look at how many people are responding to you troll bullshit to tell you why they care about this feature. And instead of listening, you're just doubling down and getting triggered.
Worse, you're disrailing what was a proper discussion thread with your "hurdy hur, how bout next-gen" nonsense.
If the feature doesn't interest you why did you even come into the thread?!
Riky
$MSFT
Why be so upset about something that's free and makes your back catalogue look better?
MarkMe2525
Member
I could argue that seems like a waste of time.
I'm excited to play geometry wars in hdr on my qled set!!!! Sunset overdrive really impressed as well with this feature.
Leyasu
Banned
This should be bannable.
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
Ah yes, because Xbox will be unable to run next gen titles because they haven’t shown it. Just as Sony won’t have backwards compatibility, a UI, and PSVR as they’ve yet to show that.
Great logic.
Riky
$MSFT
It was.
MarkMe2525
Member
*Everyone previewing Series X and auto HDR "This is great, it really makes a difference"
*Haters on NeoGaf that have not touched the console "This is lame, it doesn't make a difference." or "it's fake"
*Haters on NeoGaf that have not touched the console "This is lame, it doesn't make a difference." or "it's fake"
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LeftThumbstick
Member
You could, but you would come out the end of it looking like an idiot.
It’s a feature of the next gen consoles, not the old ones.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
I always get confused at the brow-beating when features are added. It's even more bizarre when those same people are the ones that most likely aren't even buying the product, yet somehow feel as if their opinion is relevant in any way.
I do however, appreciate the concern from these folks, because quite frankly, I don't have the time nor inclination to be concerned myself in these unprecedented times.
I do however, appreciate the concern from these folks, because quite frankly, I don't have the time nor inclination to be concerned myself in these unprecedented times.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I bet he yelled at his mom and knocked the tray of tendies right out of her hands as he found out he was banned.
martino
Member
it's why i didn't
Neo Blaster
Member
Where did I say Xbox wouldn't run them? I'm complaining they have shown nothing next gen so far.
Lots of triggered people here.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
LeftThumbstick
Member
Wise move, keep that shit in the speculation thread. I've seen you shit talk in there too.it's why i didn't
Nope, people are just getting sick of the usual suspects coming into Xbox threads just to agitate and annoy people, shit posting and all the rest. You're a PS fan, everyone knows that. One good look at the speculation thread will show everyone that, so it's easy to tell you're in here just to cause arguments and downplay something good for Xbox.
Did this thread mention anything about next gen games, or about auto HDR? Seems like it's too hard for you to tell.
. Playing BC games on new xbox will be a joy.
martino
Member
can you point them to me ?
I'm sure it's mostly different opinions you don't like.
edit: thinking about it this first comment was not great. i regret it
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JLB
Banned
This is HDR. No fake, middle-ground, escalated or whatever.
It's not "true" HDR but it's certainly better than most TVs "fake" HDR.
With games everything is usually compressed down into rec.709 colour space and SDR ranges before being sent to output. What this method does is take that raw signal, which will already have a wider colour gamut and then use the games lighting engine combined with AI learning to calculate how it should look in rec.2020 and HDR (set manually at 1,000 nits vs. SDR's 200 nits). Meaning you're getting a much more "accurate" representation of what the HDR and colour space should be compared to how a TV would handle it, it'd also mean less input latency as the console is handling it natively instead of the TV having to scan through it.
NoMoChokeSJ
Banned
Don't limit access to your post history and I bet it wouldn't be hard to find.
Exactly this! Just because it's not "true" HDR doesn't mean it will be bad, Gears 5 demonstrated some of the best HDR moments that was up there with the best examples at times and it certainly shits over bad HDR implemented by developers who didn't use it right, such as Rockstar Games.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Wasn't the HDR in RDR2 already fixed though?
Strider Highwind
Banned
Welcome aboard and enjoy
I lurked for a few years before I got active. Forums really dope and tons of people here know their stuff
No, they fixed a little bit by allowing people to change the set ranges for paper white and true black (though it doesn't scale down to ACTUAL true black for some stupid reason) but the colour space stuff is still SDR and still has banding in places. So it's better than what it was at launch, but SDR is still a better way to play the game sadly.
ZywyPL
Banned
The real question is if the tech will work with next-gen titles? It's cool for current-gen BC games that didn't have it implemented, so the whole majority, but what about the upcoming games? I think it's naive to think that from this generation onward all of a sudden every title will have implemented (proper) HDR...
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Well that sucks. Ridiculous that one of the biggest and best looking games this gen has subpar HDR
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makaveli60
Member
Pretty cool.