Stuff like HDR is cool for 5 minutes
Yep. It's the new bloom. Forgettable.
Stuff like HDR is cool for 5 minutes
Some people are on Xbox's jock strap so much that they're literally creaming over features that aren't even focused on, you know, next gen games.
Wow! Fake HDR! Wow! Improved performance! My 10-year-old games will look better than ever!
Weird idea, but how about we get a next gen system that is focused on next gen games. Wild, right? Because if I wanted to play old games, I'd just ... play them now.
Some people are on Xbox's jock strap so much that they're literally creaming over features that aren't even focused on, you know, next gen games.
Wow! Fake HDR! Wow! Improved performance! My 10-year-old games will look better than ever!
Weird idea, but how about we get a next gen system that is focused on next gen games. Wild, right? Because if I wanted to play old games, I'd just ... play them now.
Well I was talking about how it brings HDR to SDR games in the first place, I thing DF said that it's done by creating heatmap in frame buffer and then run some predetermined brigthness value for certain amount of luminosity from that heatmap.
Well I am wrong it's using some Gears 5 HDR implementation interpreter, not sure why would you need machine learning, it seems like some value table would be far less buggy, however I am obviously not an expert.
Yeah, however this was mentioned in that video that sometimes is applied where it should not be. Banjo Kazooie is that example. But yeah you are right. did not think about that one.You have to know where to put the data. The AI needs to measure where it goes and how to blend the image but more importantly when to not use it.
What is it to you what people buy their games consoles for? Good games are good games.That's not it at all. It's that you're buying a next gen system for current and old games. It's well within your right to be stupid with your money, but XSX (as of right now) is basically an emulator, which can be done more affordably on PC.
Yeah, however this was mentioned in that video that sometimes is applied where it should not be. Banjo Kazooie is that example. But yeah you are right. did not think about that one.
Be sure to pick up Halo: The Master Chief. Collection. It will shine in HDR.This is my first post here, I used to be a pc gamer back when I had time to invest...
But now with work, wife and etc... I've sold my pc to my uncle last year and im planning on getting a xbox now.. ms got me hyped to the level of the ps2 launch
Bc and hdr improvements are the biggest selling point after gamepass FOR ME, since I skipped entire generations of xbox exclusives
This is super shallow thinking. Let's never listen to Sabbath or The Stones. Forget Lawrence of Arabia and Seven Samurai can go fuck itself. Also, there will be new games.
What is it to you what people buy their games consoles for? Good games are good games.
How do I play Metal Gear Solid 3 officially with hdr and in 4k on PC?
You came into an Xbox focused thread, where people were talking about a feature that's very specific to BC, and threw a hissy FIT that people were happy it existed. Maybe just read the topic, ignore it and move on if you don't have anything to add to the discussion?
Stuff like HDR is cool for 5 minutes. I'll look at a few games and then forget it exists.
That's not it at all. It's that you're buying a next gen system for current and old games. It's well within your right to be stupid with your money, but XSX (as of right now) is basically an emulator, which can be done more affordably on PC.
Gamers are stupid. They'll spend $500 on an emulator, which is all the XSX will be until mid to late 2021 when the first round of true next gen games come out. It's hilarious.
You could argue that, but it would be stupidi could argue it's not really a next gen feature since it's for bc !
That's with every improvement of systems... You'll play Demon Souls and be like, oh my god this is amazing. And after a couple of months that's just the standard and you forget that it blew you away. But the experience itself is still better.Stuff like HDR is cool for 5 minutes. I'll look at a few games and then forget it exists.
Some people are on Xbox's jock strap so much that they're literally creaming over features that aren't even focused on, you know, next gen games.
Wow! Fake HDR! Wow! Improved performance! My 10-year-old games will look better than ever!
Weird idea, but how about we get a next gen system that is focused on next gen games. Wild, right? Because if I wanted to play old games, I'd just ... play them now.
What are you talking about?How do you play World of Warcraft on Xbox? Newsflash: different games come on different systems, and if you're trying to validate your platform because of a handful of old HDR/4K-enabled exclusives that aren't on PC or other platforms, then you have no real weight to your argument.
I'm adding things to the discussion, you just don't like what I have to say. It doesn't make me any less right; you can think whatever you want of me. Makes no difference either way.
Some people are on Xbox's jock strap so much that they're literally creaming over features that aren't even focused on, you know, next gen games.
Wow! Fake HDR! Wow! Improved performance! My 10-year-old games will look better than ever!
Weird idea, but how about we get a next gen system that is focused on next gen games. Wild, right? Because if I wanted to play old games, I'd just ... play them now.
I could argue that seems like a waste of time.i could argue it's not really a next gen feature since it's for bc !
This should be bannable.Some people are on Xbox's jock strap so much that they're literally creaming over features that aren't even focused on, you know, next gen games.
Wow! Fake HDR! Wow! Improved performance! My 10-year-old games will look better than ever!
Weird idea, but how about we get a next gen system that is focused on next gen games. Wild, right? Because if I wanted to play old games, I'd just ... play them now.
Ah yes, because Xbox will be unable to run next gen titles because they haven’t shown it. Just as Sony won’t have backwards compatibility, a UI, and PSVR as they’ve yet to show that.XSX definitely stands out as a great machine to play current/previous gen games, but MS will have to up their game and include some next gen gameplay in these previews, cause so far they are lacking.
This should be bannable.
You could, but you would come out the end of it looking like an idiot.i could argue it's not really a next gen feature since it's for bc !
I bet he yelled at his mom and knocked the tray of tendies right out of her hands as he found out he was banned.It was.
it's why i didn'tYou could, but you would come out the end of it looking like an idiot.
It’s a feature of the next gen consoles, not the old ones.
Where did I say Xbox wouldn't run them? I'm complaining they have shown nothing next gen so far.Ah yes, because Xbox will be unable to run next gen titles because they haven’t shown it. Just as Sony won’t have backwards compatibility, a UI, and PSVR as they’ve yet to show that.
Great logic.
What is "fake" in this HDR?
Wise move, keep that shit in the speculation thread. I've seen you shit talk in there too.it's why i didn't
Where did I say Xbox wouldn't run them? I'm complaining they have shown nothing next gen so far.
Lots of triggered people here.
Wise move, keep that shit in the speculation thread. I've seen you shit talk in there too.
Maybe I don't really understand what it's doing. Someone mentioned DLSS previously, so isn't this a bit like a '4k DLSS image isn't true 4k' sort of thing?
It's not "true" HDR but it's certainly better than most TVs "fake" HDR.Maybe I don't really understand what it's doing. Someone mentioned DLSS previously, so isn't this a bit like a '4k DLSS image isn't true 4k' sort of thing?
Don't limit access to your post history and I bet it wouldn't be hard to find.can you point them to me ?
I'm sure it's mostly different opinions you don't like.
Exactly this! Just because it's not "true" HDR doesn't mean it will be bad, Gears 5 demonstrated some of the best HDR moments that was up there with the best examples at times and it certainly shits over bad HDR implemented by developers who didn't use it right, such as Rockstar Games.Too bad it won't fix HDR for the game that needs it the most as in RDR2.
Wasn't the HDR in RDR2 already fixed though?Exactly this! Just because it's not "true" HDR doesn't mean it will be bad, Gears 5 demonstrated some of the best HDR moments that was up there with the best examples at times and it certainly shits over bad HDR implemented by developers who didn't use it right, such as Rockstar Games.
This is my first post here, I used to be a pc gamer back when I had time to invest...
But now with work, wife and etc... I've sold my pc to my uncle last year and im planning on getting a xbox now.. ms got me hyped to the level of the ps2 launch
Bc and hdr improvements are the biggest selling point after gamepass FOR ME, since I skipped entire generations of xbox exclusives
No, they fixed a little bit by allowing people to change the set ranges for paper white and true black (though it doesn't scale down to ACTUAL true black for some stupid reason) but the colour space stuff is still SDR and still has banding in places. So it's better than what it was at launch, but SDR is still a better way to play the game sadly.Wasn't the HDR in RDR2 already fixed though?
Well that sucks. Ridiculous that one of the biggest and best looking games this gen has subpar HDRNo, they fixed a little bit by allowing people to change the set ranges for paper white and true black (though it doesn't scale down to ACTUAL true black for some stupid reason) but the colour space stuff is still SDR and still has banding in places. So it's better than what it was at launch, but SDR is still a better way to play the game sadly.