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[IntentionalPun]

Modern "media" person playbook:

1) Make confident statement of fact, as though you have inside info
2) Get corrected
3) Go "oh well, yeah" quietly and ignore

repeat!

 

[The Fartist]

Kind of understandable given the lack of true next gen games on XSX on launch day. Games with RT will come, it's just going to take a bit of time. We're at the beginning of the race. No need to worry or be overly concerned just yet.

Oooooooooookay.

 

[Vasto]

Miles morales

Demon souls

black ops cold war

Watch dogs legion

Destruction all stars

Godfall

I am talking about Serie X of course. So Watch Dogs Legion and Call Of Duty PS5 version has Ray Tracing and the Series X version does not?

 

[zcaa0g]

But look on the bright side, you can still play all your old games on your new 12 flops machine.

And whatever comes in the future. Good point.

 

[ReBurn]

So much for shimmering puddles. I can't play games without them.

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

Most people won't care. But still, lol.

 

[Papacheeks]

I am talking about Serie X of course. So Watch Dogs Legion PS5 version has Ray Tracing and the Series X version does not?

Looks like it will come post patch. The game will have it, but the series x from what it sounds like wont be able to have it enabled since the api is behind. Which kind of confirms all the rumors with halo having RT post launch originally.

Also makes sense that most games in xbox's show cases this year have been on mainly PC hardware.

 

[AgentP]

So much for shimmering puddles. I can't play games without them.

So true, least important graphics feature in recent years, RT.

 

[FunkMiller]

Oh dear.... this felt like it was coming because they’ve shown so very, very little. Hugely ironic that Ps5 got bashed with predictions of this stuff, and it looks like it happening on XBox instead.

 

[RoboFu]

I am talking about Serie X of course. So Watch Dogs Legion and Call Of Duty PS5 version has Ray Tracing and the Series X version does not?

bo one knows for sure if those third party games do or do not on consoles.
but we will know in a month lol.

But yeah it is a big misstep for ms not to have a first party game with raytracing at launch.

 

[Vasto]

Looks like it will come post patch. The game will have it, but the series x from what it sounds like wont be able to have it enabled since the api is behind. Which kind of confirms all the rumors with halo having RT post launch originally.

Also makes sense that most games in xbox's show cases this year have been on mainly PC hardware.

If true then that is a bummer.

 

[Whitecrow]

Here youe have one reason why 'a lot of' devs praised ps5 and not xbox.
While XSEX have more brute force in TFLOPS, Sony basically have everything else:
Games at launch and good dev kits.

 

[danielJackson]

It's salty PS fanboys who know this gen is gonna be a bad one for them.

Why would we be salty?

PS5 launch lineup is already 10x better than PS4s full 1st year were

And PS5 1st year looks great.

DS4 were great controller and dualsense looks Even better

Hardware is innovative, greatly engineered as whole.

No more long loading times

3D audio could be really nice

EPIC story driven games coming years after years.


So why would we be salty?

Because of retarded "muh 12tf is more"?

Because of sexy Craig?

Because of what, games we dont care about (forza, halo, gears)?

Because of what?

You dont make any sense..

PS4 to PS5 gamers have already won, you know?

So why would we care about so much that we would need to "be salty".

That sounds like when some straight derps envy some gay pornstar whom got 30cm dick, yeah his is bigger than theirs, but it have completely different audience and different holes to poke. So both can excist without losing anything.

 

[RyanEvans21]

I am talking about Serie X of course. So Watch Dogs Legion and Call Of Duty PS5 version has Ray Tracing and the Series X version does not?

We dont know yet until it release.

Watch Dogs PC Footage

Call of Duty Cold War PS5 Gameplay

 

[Birdo]

But Blinx in 4K, dude.

 

[ReBurn]

So true, least important graphics feature in recent years, RT.

Is it?

 

[StateofMajora]

Doesn't matter to me ; i'll be enjoying that sweet, sweet BC catalog. When the games actually come out that demonstrate the best of what the hardware can do it'll be incredible. Forza horizon 5 with ray tracing? Yes please.

 

[Papacheeks]

The clip that was posted is from the XSS reveal vid. They said on the vid 'the following games are running on actual XSS hardware'.

Both taken from xbox's youtube channel, both dont say what they are running on even the gameplay video,

Find me that so called video that was posted where it says running on series x.

 

[Physiognomonics]

The clip that was posted is from the XSS reveal vid. They said on the vid 'the following games are running on actual XSS hardware'.

They actually didn't say that it was captured on XSS hardware. Their statement, while true, doesn't mean it was captured on XSS, quite the contrary. This is Ubisoft we are talking about.

 

[Jigsaah]

Karma got them hard . Remembering all those bullshit is a bit jarring now and all the fud for ps5

I don't get it. There are multiple posts here showing RT is supported for multiple titles, yet you are still clinging to this narrative it seems based on tweets where John has already reversed his position.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

They already did in the wired article published October 5th

Phil Spencer :

"When I think about games where ray tracing has had a dramatic impact on my experience as a player, it’s kind of spotty"
“Ray tracing has failed to deliver on its promise.” Few if any games have significantly benefited from the tech

Talking to Wired, Spencer said “I think 8K is aspirational technology. The display capabilities of devices are not really there yet. I think we’re years away from 8K being—if it ever is—standard in video games.”

Series X chip:

Have not seen PlayStation push this 8K narrative like Xbox.

Why would you hype 8K that is years off from being console standard technology.

Xbox is all over the place.

 

[Stuart360]

Both taken from xbox's youtube channel, both dont say what they are running on even the gameplay video,

Find me that so called video that was posted where it says running on series x.

Series S, not X. Its the Series S reveal vid, search for it yourself. I'm not the one that posted the clip.

 

[01011001]

Modern "media" person playbook:

1) Make confident statement of fact, as though you have inside info
2) Get corrected
3) Go "oh well, yeah" quietly and ignore

repeat!

similar to them modern NeoGaf Thread Opening Playbook

1) See single statement on Twitter
2) Don't think about how likely it is that it is correct
3) Don't even touch Google once to verify
4) Open Thread
5) Hope for fanboy wars because of course people will be stupid enough to fanboy over a false statement instantly without verification

 

[Alebrije]

Yep , that is why did not get Xbone Series X , they do not have next gen games , and for BC I am fine with my XboneX.

Meanwhile by november 12 I will get Demons Souls with Ray tracing.

This happens when you do not have exclusives and hope Microsoft put to work all its lazy studios to show something next gen.

 

[dEvAnGeL]

12 TF of PR for sure.

 

[Papacheeks]

I don't get it. There are multiple posts here showing RT is supported for multiple titles, yet you are still clinging to this narrative it seems based on tweets where John has already reversed his position.

nothing has been shown from their first party or third party where it says running on series x. ANd the games in question are the big third party titles that we know are confirmed to have Ray tracing. You do the math that RT was coming as a post launch update to halo. ANd that for some reason PS5 version of COD was the only one being shown running with RT.

Same goes for watch dogs.

Series S, not X. Its the Series S reveal vid, search for it yourself. I'm not the one that posted the clip.

That makes no fucking sense.

Series s and X share the same arc, same api if one has it the other will.

Here's the launch trailer for series s:



notice something?

Doesnt say running on series s, nor does it show games we know have ray tracing that we are talking about.

 

[lastmessiah]

Why would we be salty?

PS5 launch lineup is already 10x better than PS4s full 1st year were

And PS5 1st year looks great.

DS4 were great controller and dualsense looks Even better

Hardware is innovative, greatly engineered as whole.

No more long loading times

3D audio could be really nice

EPIC story driven games coming years after years.


So why would we be salty?

Because of retarded "muh 12tf is more"?

Because of sexy Craig?

Because of what, games we dont care about (forza, halo, gears)?

Because of what?

You dont make any sense..

PS4 to PS5 gamers have already won, you know?

So why would we care about so much that we would need to "be salty".

That sounds like when some straight derps envy some gay pornstar whom got 30cm dick, yeah his is bigger than theirs, but it have completely different audience and different holes to poke. So both can excist without losing anything.

You tell me, buddy. You’re the one writing novel-length responses and trolling Xbox threads. Smells like salt to me.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Bottom line is John from DF has no real clue if XSX is going to support RT at launch.

But he hasn't really seen any evidence to the contrary, so it's not really shocking he'd make such a guess... even the 3rd party games with confirmed RT features we don't KNOW will have RT at launch on XSX.

 

[Jigsaah]

nothing has been shown from their first party or third party where it says running on series x. ANd the games in question are the big third party titles that we know are confirmed to have Ray tracing. You do the math that RT was coming as a post launch update to halo. ANd that for some reason PS5 version of COD was the only one being shown running with RT.

Same goes for watch dogs.

I still think it's assuming too much and we should wait for release of games on an individual basis.

 

[Md Ray]

So Series X is really full RDNA2 and Ps5 just RDNA1 with RT hence they're ahead with implementation

You're joking right?

 

[Knitted Knight]

 

[Dr.brain64]

So all this gen while xbox was doing nothing, they were really doing nothing...........

 

[iamvin22]

Spiderman as well . Also call of duty cold war

DMC: SE

 

[Hawking Radiation]

So some here claiming Watch Dogs Legion was shown running on Series X or S yet those gameplay videos do not state if the game is actually running on that hardware.

 

[ZehDon]

I haven't seen a company show so little care for their hardcore fans (who defend them till death if need be and promote the brand). At this point it's an abusive relationship.

There are really no words to describe this. I've described MS with all civil words possible in the English vocabulary.

What the fuck is this bullshit?

"Ray Tracing won't be available in all games at launch, but it will be available in several."
"OMG! I can't even - I can't even! Omg, I'm literally shaking right now. This must be what victims of domestic abuse feel like; this simple language lacks the words to justly describe this inhumane VIOLENCE that has been done upon us at the hands of this EVIL and PETULANT corporation! I can't even! SHAKING!"

 

[digoutyoursoul]

So all this gen while xbox was doing nothing, they were really doing nothing...........

Yeah but all hail Phil etc etc


Sick of the fella

 

[Papacheeks]

I still think it's assuming too much and we should wait for release of games on an individual basis.

Assuming what? People have had Series x for almost a week, no one is showing off new games running on it with ray tracing?

John is confirming this? If shit was ready they would have had some game demos or at least call of duty running on it since the beta has been going on this past month.

It's pretty obvious to see the bread crumbs from insiders, halo's no rt at launch, and all gameplay in promotional material being on a PC.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Thanks for that.

Is that gameplay clip you posted running on Series X or PC?

Series S, actually

 

[01011001]

Assuming what? People have had Series x for almost a week, no one is showing off new games running on it with ray tracing?

John is confirming this? If shit was ready they would have had some game demos or at least call of duty running on it since the beta has been going on this past month.

It's pretty obvious to see the bread crumbs from insiders, halo's no rt at launch, and all gameplay in promotional material being on a PC.

I think you are the fastest newcomer I've ever put on ignore...

 

[Nikana]

So some here claiming Watch Dogs Legion was shown running on Series X or S yet those gameplay videos do not state if the game is actually running on that hardware.

7:30

 

[MasterCornholio]

Miles morales

Demon souls

black ops cold war

Watch dogs legion

Destruction all stars

Godfall

Ratchet and Clank

Devil May Cry 5

I can't think of anything else.

Edit:

Just thought of Minecraft and Gran Turismo 7.

 

[VFXVeteran]

Yea, I'm thinking that both consoles weren't ready for RT and it was rushed after everyone complained that they may not have it in this generaion. I remember AMD saying that they wasn't going to make RT hardware until it was ready for all platforms. Then like 2 months later, they announced that the new consoles would have it. I wonder if they went ahead with the console development of it before the actual GPUs going into the PCs.

 

[Hendrick's]

DF shill spreading FUD again.

 

[El Sueño]

MS is doomed. Preorder cancelled. Lol. They will be just fine.

 

[Nubulax]

So all this gen while xbox was doing nothing, they were really doing nothing...........

They made the "MOST POWERFUL" console though..so..theres that? Right?

 

[Papacheeks]

I think you are the fastest newcomer I've ever put on ignore...

Been on here since 2013 there bud.

And it must be hard to ignore that people have had these for a while.

 

[SlimySnake]

How the fuck can you say that? It’s not all us fans who have done shit like that for fuck sake.

Sick of this shit

Where did i say all Xbox fans did this?

What a bizarre thing to get triggered by. I didn't even call them Xbox fanboys. Jyst fans. And you still got upset.

 

[JTCx]

If this is true, Microsoft will now downplay RT, you watch.

Phil has already done that.

 

[Topfuel]

They already did in the wired article published October 5th

Phil Spencer :

"When I think about games where ray tracing has had a dramatic impact on my experience as a player, it’s kind of spotty"
“Ray tracing has failed to deliver on its promise.” Few if any games have significantly benefited from the tech

Do you have a screenshot?

 

[Knitted Knight]

What the fuck is this bullshit?

"Ray Tracing won't be available in all games at launch, but it will be available in several."
"OMG! I can't even - I can't even! Omg, I'm literally shaking right now. This must be what victims of domestic abuse feel like; this simple language lacks the words to justly describe this inhumane VIOLENCE that has been done upon us at the hands of this EVIL and PETULANT corporation! I can't even! SHAKING!"

Relax...