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[Bryank75]

The cope is strong.

Anyway, 800-ish GB on the Series X is still mostly tolerable, with games hovering around 100gb. 8 games or, so. It's still messier than I'd have liked, though, once you start factoring in one or two larger games. COD:MW eating up something like 200gb of your drive, leaves you just 6 games. That's not a lot. 600-ish GB on the PS5 is getting very close to crossing into "actually not good" territory. 6 games, or so. However, one big game really hurts. COD:MW eating up 200gb leaves you just four games. That's not going to be enough for some folk - especially if you're interested in trying out a bunch of new games at launch.

The saving grace here is that we were told that a huge amount of space is actually due to asset duplication to deal with platter spinning on older HDDs. With SSDs as standard, this type of duplication shouldn't be necessary, if I've understood this correctly. Hopefully this means 100gb games aren't the standard this generation.

An external SSD/HD should make changing games trivial and take very little time at all..... expecially with those 10GB/s USB's. I really don't see an issue.

 

[MrFunSocks]

To the surprise of no one. Who cares. Plug in an external or buy an extra drive. Doesn't matter if they had 2TB by default, you're still gonna need more at some stage.

Not sure why some people though there was 800+gb of usable space when the entire drive is only 825gb.

 

[Bryank75]

To the surprise of no one.

Here is mr angrysocks!

 

[Concern]

Gonna have to be swapping games on and off till you buy another ssd. But I mean this was expected with 825gb.

 

[RoboFu]

That’s what 13 60 gig games? That’s enough for me.

 

[Kokoloko85]

What can you do. Hopefully kraken makes the Game sizes smaller.
Lol at people saying cancel preorder. Your either sad or dont have a preorder

 

[Yoboman]

Gonna have to be swapping games on and off till you buy another ssd. But I mean this was expected with 825gb.

And at what size SSD is this not true?

 

[Slayer-33]

SUDDENLY, no big deal! Right on queue.

Gotta wonder, if this was Series X confirmed at 664GB what kind of planet busting meltdowns you'd be having around here.

Bonus: Let's all PRETEND that this nonsense isn't much worse than 1080P UI-gate.

 

[diffusionx]

Up to Sony to enforce the file size limits. But oof if they don’t.

What file size limits?

 

[The_Mike]

Discs / physical software will prove their worth again IMO.

Discs that has to be installed anyway and down the line is like 20 percent of the base installation because of DLC so you have to download 80 percent of the game.

But at least the download will go super fast because of the ssd.

 

[Bryank75]

Discs that has to be installed anyway and down the line is like 20 percent of the base installation because of DLC so you have to download 80 percent of the game.

But at least the download will go super fast because of the ssd.

Most of the games I play are playable off the disc...just because other companies are shitty about it, doesn't mean you can't choose the good ones.

Ghost of Tsushima for instance, single player fully playable off the disc... only the multiplayer portion and NG+ came as downloads later for free.

 

[Arun1910]

Yeah it isn't great... then again I personally don't keep games I don't currently play installed.

 

[The_Mike]

Most of the games I play are playable off the disc...just because other companies are shitty about it, doesn't mean you can't choose the good ones.

Ghost of Tsushima for instance, single player fully playable off the disc... only the multiplayer portion and NG+ came as downloads later for free.

Well, good on you for being really really picky with your games next gen.

Sony should get flamed for this shit instead of players having to cut corners to fit their shitty choices.

 

[njean777]

This is going to be the generation of External drives, apple were ahead of their time . I am used to it thanks to apple so I will get a big External and just transfer back and forth if needed.

Well, good on you for being really really picky with your games next gen.

Sony should get flamed for this shit instead of players having to cut corners to fit their shitty choices.

Flamed for what? SSD's are going to come at a cost for now. Mid gen though I see SSD's coming down big time. I mean sure they could have put a 2 tb SSD in there but with everything else that would make Sony lose even more money. I mean hell they have SSD's now, but people are not happy cuz it isn't enough. I mean if they put a 4tb SSD in there you would find something else to bitch about. Nothing will make everybody happy.

 

[Bryank75]

Well, good on you for being really really picky with your games next gen.

Sony should get flamed for this shit instead of players having to cut corners to fit their shitty choices.

They are getting flamed daily by people who never intended to buy any of their products.

 

[TaylorSwiftFan]

How does this compare to the PS4?

PS4 launched with a 500GB HDD.

 

[dano1]

I wonder how much room astrobot takes up. That's a pre installed game right? Wonder how much we can gain by deleting it.

I guess it’s 2.4 GB so not very big.

 

[The_Mike]

They are getting flamed daily by people who never intended to buy any of their products.

And that's the problem. They should also get flames from the ones who buy their stuff. But sadly the mentality, on both team Green and blue, is to throw mud at each other.

And for the record. I'd seen many more xbox players calling Microsoft out than the other way around.

 

[mcjmetroid]

A lot of " who cares" responses directly after an Xbox thread where people were making fun of the 1080p UI.

Ya I'll take the 1080p UI for more storage space.

 

[Bryank75]

And that's the problem. They should also get flames from the ones who buy their stuff. But sadly the mentality, on both team Green and blue, is to throw mud at each other.

And for the record. I'd seen many more xbox players calling Microsoft out than the other way around.

Well, I am glad I am not the one in the green thread accusing or berating then....

 

[Sander Cohen]

An utter shitshow. Russians are not f-ing around, when they decide to leak something, it’s gonna be a big one.

Sorry, 660 doesn’t sound like next gen but at the same time you can’t expect too much for 500 .

Pick 4-5 games you wanna have at the same time, delete, install and repeat.

 

[The_Mike]

Well, I am glad I am not the one in the green thread accusing or berating then....

Well, if you think there's something bad about them, I really think you should let your voice be heard. Unless you of course now you'll never be interested in buying one.

Also, never say never. I rarely use them, yet I have each of the PlayStations except pro and a vita. Anythings possible.

And if I can do it, literally anyone can.

 

[Bryank75]

Well I mean, it is a trade-off isn't it?

One console has 150GB extra to start with but needs a custom SSD expansion.

The other has 150GB less but can accept any manufacturers SSD providing it meets spec and also has faster USB's to allow faster transfer from external SSDs / HDD's.

Up to you what you prefer.

 

[ReBurn]

I wonder why Sony went with the amount of storage that they did. 825 GB seems like such a weird number.

 

[Clear]

Not sure why some people though there was 800+gb of usable space when the entire drive is only 825gb.

Exactly.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Jesus. 1 TB (actual like 890 GB?) on PS4 Pro was brutal, but this is going to be like 3 or 4 full games max.

I think I'm going to invest in Western Digital stock.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Discs that has to be installed anyway and down the line is like 20 percent of the base installation because of DLC so you have to download 80 percent of the game.

But at least the download will go super fast because of the ssd.

Don't forget Wifi 6 making game downloads blazingly fast!

edit: copped a warning for this, jesus christ lol.

 

[Bojanglez]

What can you do. Hopefully kraken makes the Game sizes smaller.
Lol at people saying cancel preorder. Your either sad or dont have a preorder

Or most likely just being sarcastic.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Lol at people saying cancel preorder. Your either sad or dont have a preorder

When there is a thread on here where supposedly 80+ people are cancelling their Series S/X pre-orders because the dashboard is native 1080p, I think you'll find the large majority of those in here saying pre-order cancelled are taking the piss.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Sony knows what everyone is thinking SSD is good for consoles any PC Gamer will tell you that.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Still a non-issue

 

[taizuke]

Wish it was more but I can manage.

 

[Concern]

So we went from "its not real".... "I'll wait for something official" in the leak thread on this to "it doesn't matter" or "who expected more?" In this thread.

 

[FrankWza]

Well I mean, it is a trade-off isn't it?

One console has 150GB extra to start with but needs a custom SSD expansion.

The other has 150GB less but can accept any manufacturers SSD providing it meets spec and also has faster USB's to allow faster transfer from external SSDs / HDD's.

Up to you what you prefer.

You forgot over 100% more raw or compressed throughput and the fact that IF you could even buy this drive anywhere else it would cost 3 times as much as the standard SSD in x. I’ll take the future proofed drive over the extra 150gb drive. Honestly, the 2 drives are not even in the same league, forget the same ballpark. Getting this drive in a $500 console is insane plus you can get it in a $400 console. Don’t even bother...

 

[Cert.in.Death]

What file size limits?

Rather, requiring developers to minimize their install sizes, as suggested by Cerny.

 

[bitbydeath]

A random youtubers video isn’t confirmation of anything. While it may be correct we should wait for an official confirmation.

 

[01011001]

A random youtubers video isn’t confirmation of anything. While it may be correct we should wait for an official confirmation.

the SSD is 825GB, so it always was pretty much gonna be in the ballpark of the leaked numbers.

the system needs space for the OS, a buffer for OS patches and a buffer so that the OS can grow over time if new features need to be added etc.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Who cares? Just use a USB 3.0 Extended Harddrive to swap games to and from the console as you use them, problem solved.

People that MUST play 20 different games at once CARE. Think of them!

 

[bitbydeath]

the SSD is 825GB, so it always was pretty much gonna be in the ballpark of the leaked numbers.

the system needs space for the OS, a buffer for OS patches and a buffer so that the OS can grow over time if new features need to be added etc.

I know, just the thread title and tag is misleading.

 

[-Arcadia-]

All I know, is if this means we get the kind of loading we saw in Souls, or with other near-instant examples, I’m for it. I recall Cerny saying that the weird amount of storage was a byproduct of this.

That said, this is going to be a pain.

 

[FrankWza]

People that MUST play 20 different games at once CARE. Think of them!

Haha right. Same people that went 7 years with the stock HDD and now think every SSD is built the same and is just storage. What is this, 2013? Might as well go back to 1080p UIs while we’re at it.

 

[01011001]

I know, just the thread title and tag is misleading.

I mean, the leak is real it's just not 100% confirmed that the available space will be 100% the same in retail units.
the difference will be a few GB if even that.

so this is at least a decent enough first estimate

before the official OS presentation we didn't know if the first video was fake or not, but we now know the icons and layout match.
the title says the leak was real, not that the available storage numbers are final

 

[Eternal21]

This would only be an issue if Sony went with proprietary storage expansion solution, which they didn't.

 

[RoadHazard]

The drive space itself is not the issue....it’s the lack of communication on actual ways to upgrade your storage and how external drives work that’s the problem

Are we able to upgrade the internal slot on day 1 with a m2 drive?

what drives are compatible?

can we copy ps5 games to internal and out when not in use?

Why do you need more than 664GB of storage on day 1?

 

[BlackM1st]

So... CoD MW and couple of psn games. WTF. Why would os need freaking 400gb? What kind of monstrosity PS5's os is?

 

[01011001]

This would only be an issue if Sony went with proprietary storage expansion solution, which they didn't.

for the first year or so you will pretty much pay the same for both

so if you want to upgrade immediately or very soon, the proprietary nature of the Xbox's solution doesn't make a difference

So... CoD MW and couple of psn games. WTF. Why would os need freaking 400gb? What kind of monstrosity PS5's os is?

it doesn't? the SSD is 825GB... I don't know how you get to 400gb lol

 

[BlackM1st]

Why do you need more than 664GB of storage on day 1?

You can't be serious. Why would you play ps4 games on ps4 instead of PS5? Look at GTA/CoD/Battlefield/Final Fantasy sizes.

Why not ask wtf ps5 need 400gb of ssd for?

 

[BlackM1st]

for the first year or so you will pretty much pay the same for both


it doesn't? the SSD is 825GB... I don't know how you get to 400gb lol

Just 200gb of ssd for the barebones os? It changes everything! Man... some ppl will defend anything

 

[HeresJohnny]

Lol, no thanks. Will wait for a price drop and a larger SSD

 

[TaylorSwiftFan]

You can't be serious. Why would you play ps4 games on ps4 instead of PS5? Look at GTA/CoD/Battlefield/Final Fantasy sizes.

Why not ask wtf ps5 need 400gb of ssd for?

It doesn’t need 400GB.