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Or are we only allowed to shoot after we've been stabbed to death?
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Are you legally and morally in the wrong for shooting someone advancing at you with a knife?
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FreedomOfSpeech
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Politically correctness is a direct denial of nature and biology.
Therefore it will ultimately fail.
Some motherfucker coming after you? You get to fight for your life.
Therefore it will ultimately fail.
Some motherfucker coming after you? You get to fight for your life.
belmarduk
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If someone comes at me with a knife, I will shoot them and not feel the least bit guilty about it.
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Super Mario
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Sad that this is even a thing. Every single person who is against it would do the exact same thing if in that situation. Just a bunch of morons conditioned that police should have magical skills to de-escalate the situation and/or remind them they "chose" this.
belmarduk
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Nah, I would shoot the attacker without hesitation, regardless of race.
GymWolf
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A knife is a gigantic equalizer, even a 40kg woman can kill an heavyweight ufc fighter with a knife with relative ease, nobody would risk that.
You can try to shoot a leg instead of the mid section but the police is trained to do that and they almost never do that because it's still too risky.
Whoever tells you that he's not gonna shot is a moron or a guy with zero self-preservation.
If i have a stun gun or rubber bullets and the guy is distant enough i would try that before, but not if the guy is very close to me.
You can try to shoot a leg instead of the mid section but the police is trained to do that and they almost never do that because it's still too risky.
Whoever tells you that he's not gonna shot is a moron or a guy with zero self-preservation.
If i have a stun gun or rubber bullets and the guy is distant enough i would try that before, but not if the guy is very close to me.
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synchronicity
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Life has an instinctual drive to protect itself. Never seek to do harm, but you have every right to protect the beat of your heart.
Having said that, I don't own, and never have owned, a gun. And I won't ever do so. For me, it is a symbol of distrust - warranted or not. (not talking about hunting weapons) To have the best possible world, faith in one another is a prerequisite imho. Something will kill me - maybe another person, but I won't participate in any type of corrosion against hope in my fellow beings.
Having said that, I don't own, and never have owned, a gun. And I won't ever do so. For me, it is a symbol of distrust - warranted or not. (not talking about hunting weapons) To have the best possible world, faith in one another is a prerequisite imho. Something will kill me - maybe another person, but I won't participate in any type of corrosion against hope in my fellow beings.
Elektro Demon
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I don't care. You come at me with a knife with an intent to kill me I'd fucking shoot ya and feel zero remorse for it.
PleaseDontBanMe
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GymWolf
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epicnemesis
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DispatchNinja
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Training to de-escalate is great, but when someone decides to ignore the de-escalation attempts and proceeds to advance towards officers with a deadly weapon, the training is to neutralize the threat with deadly force. The victim is the officer being threatened with a knife and he has a right to defend himself.
#Phonepunk#
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self defense is morally a-ok
plus it has been proven that a man with a knife is even more deadly than a man with a gun at distances of 20 feet or less.
plus it has been proven that a man with a knife is even more deadly than a man with a gun at distances of 20 feet or less.
Kiwicha
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One shot to the leg each would do, 10 shots to the torso is what you expect when the other person is also pointing a firearm at you.
PleaseDontBanMe
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DispatchNinja
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Police are trained to aim center mass, not to injure moving limbs. If the police have a gun out it is a deadly force situation. Aiming for limbs is risky due to the high probability of missing and hitting an innocent bystander, and the fact that if you miss (highly likely during a stressful incident) the attacker will already be close enough to you to seriously injure or kill you.
John is a former Christian pastor. He’s not mentally ill.
PleaseDontBanMe
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Jill Valentine
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Personally, I would say a volley of shots is unnecessary but they would still be a threat even when shot, and you may have missed and are unable confirm in the short window you do have to put the threat down. Leniency will at some point get the WRONG person killed, which are the weights in the problem.
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CrankyJay™
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It was argued to me elsewhere that police should be proficient in HTH combat and should be able to disarm people with knives.
Even with a gun it's not always as simple as just plugging away at someone charging you with a knife.
I hate to see loss of life but I think our expectations on whether or not cops should have Army Ranger or SEAL level HTH skills is bodrerline ludicrous.
I'd shoot too, completely justified.
But I'm not gonna pretend I'm some bad ass who wouldn't go into shock and possibly throw up afterwards.
Prison Mike
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If someone's coming at you with a knife theyre not offering to butter your bread definitely shoot, as someone whos been stabbed that shit stings like fuck so yeah shoot like arnie in a jungle.
spandexmonkey
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Shooting the leg is worse:
FAQs • Why not just shoot the gun or knife out of the aggres
www.orangecountygov.com
Donut Operator did a good video on how tasers don't always work and how quickly a knife wielding man can get on you:
#Phonepunk#
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DeepBreath87
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If you wield any kind of deadly weapon against police, you get what you get. No one should be forced to risk their life when presented with clear deadly force. Deescalation in this case is a luxury, but it is not requirement. Don’t brandish weapons at police. You will likely be killed. Period. End of discussion.
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DispatchNinja
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It’s really not as black and white as you’re making it. I guarantee there are a ton of stories of police not shooting people wielding knives. It’s when the person with the knife goes from just holding it to actually advancing towards people with it. Sorry, any police officer isn’t going to wait and see what the guy coming at them with a knife will do after he’s already ignored their commands.
Prison Mike
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Prison Mike
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InterMusketeer
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This is another aspect people don't seem to talk about. The cops probably got called because a dangerous situation had started. How long should they allow this threat to go on? It is better to neutralize it swiftly, if de-escalation proves ineffective, for everyone's sake.
AetherMage
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Legally justified and morally obligated.
Edit: unless you gave them a justifiable reason to come at you with a knife.
Edit: unless you gave them a justifiable reason to come at you with a knife.
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poodaddy
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Poor guy. I hate seeing shit like that, but it's important to be aware of it. Such is why I've got a 38, and I've already had to pull it on two different individuals in the past ten years, one of whom broke through my front door while fighting someone else outside my apartment's yard back when I lived in an apartment. People need to be ready, it can happen to any of us. I have a little girl, and I'll never let anyone get close enough to hurt her.
My perspective? The army taught me to drop an assailant with rounds aimed center mass. I don't give a fuck whether they're holding a gun, a knife, or even a fucking rock, they come at my family with violence, they're getting fired upon until they're no longer a threat.
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MetalAlien
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Nobody_Important
would want him to draft an intent to stab document and have it notarized before you are allowed to defend yourself with a gun. Even then i'm sure he would insist them have the defense supervised by police and have the entire altercation moved to a shooting range to ensure no secondary injury.
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John Mullins
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Is this based on a recent event or something?
If you can shoot to disable that is the preferable, non pussy option.
Emptying your gun into someone who's not even in range yet? Nervous bitch move... unless you are dealing with El Mariachi.
If you can shoot to disable that is the preferable, non pussy option.
Emptying your gun into someone who's not even in range yet? Nervous bitch move... unless you are dealing with El Mariachi.
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poodaddy
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I'm an atheist and I think you're being a dick. Religion is not mental illness. Be more respectful of people's differences.
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