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Anyone with a DualSense, have you got it to work on anything yet?

Give it a couple of weeks and they'll add it as a new profile on DS4Windows.
DS4Windows needs the device to be in a working state to convert it from Dinput to Xinput where it can emulate an Xbox 360 controller. That's really all it does. Otherwise if you connect a DS4 to a PC and don't use any 3rd party software, it is still a perfectly functional controller and in many modern games, they'll even recognize it natively as a DS4 and give you the correct button prompts. Some games even use the lightbar for things like health, wanted level etc.

However from what OP wrote it seems like it isn't doing ANYTHING on PC right now which means DS4Windows won't be able to use it at all. It needs a HID profile and be detected as a proper input device first.
 

Komatsu

Member
DS4Windows needs the device to be in a working state to convert it from Dinput to Xinput where it can emulate an Xbox 360 controller. That's really all it does. Otherwise if you connect a DS4 to a PC and don't use any 3rd party software, it is still a perfectly functional controller and in many modern games, they'll even recognize it natively as a DS4 and give you the correct button prompts. Some games even use the lightbar for things like health, wanted level etc.

I understand and I use it both natively and with DS4W all the time. But if you recall, prior to 2015/16 (fuzzy on the dates here) and a FW/driver upgrade, the DS4 would pop with a HID ticker on your device panel but would not work with either dinput or xinput. Which is why both DS4W and Sony's little proprietary Bluetooth dongle were a thing, if my memory does not fail me. I suspect it's the same here - people got it to work, according to some reports.
 
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DryvBy

Member
i saw Austin Evans testing it on a android phone (worked) and a ps4 (just connects and not detects the buttons) IRC.

Hmm, I always try and plug this stuff in so I'm a bit shocked its not even popping up to try and install on PC.
 

01011001

Banned
try connecting it to a PS4 and start a multiplayer game with your normal controller, then test if the DualSense is able to be used by the second player. like in Street Figher 5 or something with splitscreen!


it could be some weird behaviour thing that it might not be able to control the Dashboard. the DualShock 4 also had many weitd limitations when used on PS3, like the Home Button didn't work and stuff like that.

Austin Evans got it to be recognised as a controller and connect it, but the dashboard didn't react to inputs.
 
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TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Can't you connect it via bluetooth to your PC just like the DS4

By the way, mine has vibration on PC. How are you guys using your gamepad?
 
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Ar¢tos

Member
I was hoping for native support on PC. Sony's dumb, they could make good money out of it. Bummer.
Wasn't ds4 support added to pc after the ps4 release?
Considering the ps5 is not even out, support for it on pc will probably come later.
 
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Kssio_Aug

Member
Do the analog sticks feels more resistant and steady? I always thought the analog sticks in DS4 were shit and it seems to easily fuck up the dead zone.
 

Rolla

Banned
I've heard the buttons on the DualSense are way quiet in comparison to the DS4 but need confirmation. That would be a huge improvement for me.
 

DryvBy

Member
I've heard the buttons on the DualSense are way quiet in comparison to the DS4 but need confirmation. That would be a huge improvement for me.

They are. This controller is amazing as far as feel and how things push in. It's like going from a typical membrane keyboard to a mechanical keyboard.
 

Kssio_Aug

Member


Rev reviews the sticks feel.

I think I'm just as confused tbh! :messenger_tears_of_joy:
I don't know... it seems he felt the sticks were about the same quality (maybe even a bit worse) than DS4 sticks? But I'm not sure, it seems he doesn't like Xbox analog sticks, and I much prefer them.
 

Piku_Ringo

Banned
I think I'm just as confused tbh! :messenger_tears_of_joy:
I don't know... it seems he felt the sticks were about the same quality (maybe even a bit worse) than DS4 sticks? But I'm not sure, it seems he doesn't like Xbox analog sticks, and I much prefer them.
He had an issue with the elite controller's dead zone problem. The current sticks he's using on his elite 2, is a must for the best tension, as the standard ones feel too loose for him as he's mention in the video. The biggest problem he has with the dualsense seems to be the distance between the L1, R1 TO THE L2 R2 TRIGGERS, preferring the DS4s instead .
 
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01011001

Banned
less tension on a stick is better for precise aiming. you want as little resistance as possible so that you can easily perform fine movements without any hindrance.

the stick has to feel solid as well tho, it has to snap back firmly.

that is the perfect stick. I don't get people that want more resistance in the sticks like you can set the elite 2 controller to... I guess that's better for people that aren't that good at actually knowing where their thumb is positioned at any given time? I dunno.

so he says the sticks feel a bit looser! which is great! that means they are closer to the Xbox One sticks, the DS4 sticks were already only slightly stiffer. they might have listened to some CoD pro player feedback as they play all their official games on PS4 due to the pr deal. and I would bet they would mostly want looser sticks
 
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Pejo

Member
The controller shows up as HID compliant hardware in device manager on PC. I was able to detect it and configure the button mappings in steam via controller settings. About to fire up a few games to see if it actually works.
 

recursive

Member
less tension on a stick is better for precise aiming. you want as little resistance as possible so that you can easily perform fine movements without any hindrance.

the stick has to feel solid as well tho, it has to snap back firmly.

that is the perfect stick. I don't get people that want more resistance in the sticks like you can set the elite 2 controller to... I guess that's better for people that aren't that good at actually knowing where their thumb is positioned at any given time? I dunno.

so he says the sticks feel a bit looser! which is great! that means they are closer to the Xbox One sticks, the DS4 sticks were already only slightly stiffer. they might have listened to some CoD pro player feedback as they play all their official games on PS4 due to the pr deal. and I would bet they would mostly want looser sticks
I would say that is a matter of preference. I have much better control with the higher tension on DS4 compared to the looser xbox one.

I have my DS5 now and too me the tension feels very similar to DS4.
 

01011001

Banned
I would say that is a matter of preference. I have much better control with the higher tension on DS4 compared to the looser xbox one.

I have my DS5 now and too me the tension feels very similar to DS4.

it is partly preference tho. but less resistance logically leads to better fine movement capabilities.
I get tho that some would want to have more tactile feedback.
I want my sticks to be as tension free as mechanically possible.

if the DualSense is slightly looser I am all for it.


funfact: back in the Xbox 360 esports era, many pro players gave their new 360 controllers to friends to play with so that they would use them and loosen the sticks overtime. and then only use those loosened up controllers.
not everyone did that of course but many did.
 

Pejo

Member
it is partly preference tho. but less resistance logically leads to better fine movement capabilities.
I get tho that some would want to have more tactile feedback.
I want my sticks to be as tension free as mechanically possible.

if the DualSense is slightly looser I am all for it.


funfact: back in the Xbox 360 esports era, many pro players gave their new 360 controllers to friends to play with so that they would use them and loosen the sticks overtime. and then only use those loosened up controllers.
not everyone did that of course but many did.
Controller cuckoldry, well I never...
 

kether

Neo Member
it is partly preference tho. but less resistance logically leads to better fine movement capabilities.
I get tho that some would want to have more tactile feedback.
I want my sticks to be as tension free as mechanically possible.

if the DualSense is slightly looser I am all for it.


funfact: back in the Xbox 360 esports era, many pro players gave their new 360 controllers to friends to play with so that they would use them and loosen the sticks overtime. and then only use those loosened up controllers.
not everyone did that of course but many did.

So ideally you'd want the sticks to just be flopping around. Like a flaccid penis as opposed to an erect penis.
 

01011001

Banned
So ideally you'd want the sticks to just be flopping around. Like a flaccid penis as opposed to an erect penis.

no..? like I said, if you move it you should feel as less resistance as possible but as soon as you let it go it should snap back as perfectly as possible.

the Xbox One and PS4 controllers are very close to perfect, the One controller a bit more so
 

jaysius

Banned
Make the Dual Sense work with basic force feedback on the PS4 and it work wirelessly, if it has better battery life, I'll buy one even though I don't have any intention of owing a PS5. Sony can do it.
 

jaysius

Banned
Works on PC, PS3 (yes 3) and PS4 via remote play.


He plugs it into his PC at 8 minute mark.

DOES NOT work on PC out of the box, you need to install a driver, the L2 R2 inputs are fucked up, probably will need a homebrewed solution. Not a huge deal breaker, force feedback doesn't work though.

EDIT: Many people aren't getting it working on PC, some are but aren't sure why. Apparently if you can get it working it's working wired and wirelessly.





Maybe wait for homebrew driver solution on PC.




Working on a Chromebook too.
 
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Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
Can anyone comment on what feels more "premium", compared to the DS4?

The video above has the guy saying DualSense feels cheaper, but BenjiiSales is saying the opposite on Twitter...

 

Duchess

Member
DualSense? Nah!

I'm going to wait for the DoubleSense, myself. Will be much better than the official controller :)

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(spotted these today in my home town!)
 

FrankWza

Member
Can anyone comment on what feels more "premium", compared to the DS4?

The video above has the guy saying DualSense feels cheaper, but BenjiiSales is saying the opposite on Twitter...



every aspect. The plastic overall is denser. The buttons have no play to them before pressed(no rattling when passed over with thumb).The analog sticks are tight and grippy and A little taller than DS4 and just a touch under xb1. There’s no creaking either. The back has a grip to it too. For my hands it’s a perfect fit. This is JUST feel to me. I haven’t used on my PS3 yet or PS5 of course. I’ll try soon.

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Sorry. Dpad. Feels like an actual cross. Not broken up into quadrants if that makes sense. Even though there is a space on the shell. It feels like an entire piece underneath. Like you can pull of quarter circles easier than DS4
 
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01011001

Banned
Holy shit if the home button works on ps3 and the rumble......shit il buy 3!

yeah, update on that. it is recognised as a standard USB controller. so no home button and no other features work aside from the standard button inputs

I also suspect that it will have similar compatibility issues as the DS4, so games like Yakuza 5 will not work with it. (that's the only one I remember from the top of my head)

Sorry. Dpad. Feels like an actual cross. Not broken up into quadrants if that makes sense. Even though there is a space on the shell. It feels like an entire piece underneath. Like you can pull of quarter circles easier than DS4

but... that's the case on every PS controller. they are all connected crosses, the design was originally only the way it is because of Nintendo's patent on the cross shape dpad.
 
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FrankWza

Member
every aspect. The plastic overall is denser. The buttons have no play to them before pressed(no rattling when passed over with thumb).The analog sticks are tight and grippy and A little taller than DS4 and just a touch under xb1. There’s no creaking either. The back has a grip to it too. For my hands it’s a perfect fit. This is JUST feel to me. I haven’t used on my PS3 yet or PS5 of course. I’ll try soon.

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Sorry. Dpad. Feels like an actual cross. Not broken up into quadrants if that makes sense. Even though there is a space on the shell. It feels like an entire piece underneath. Like you can pull of quarter circles easier than DS4

also, it’s not white. It’s the same color as the iPhone X “silver” color
 

GAMETA

Banned
Wasn't ds4 support added to pc after the ps4 release?
Considering the ps5 is not even out, support for it on pc will probably come later.
DS4 isn't 100% compatible. It requires DS4Windows or Steam Overlay to work and has trouble with most DRMs and emulators, even with DS4Windows enabled.

I was hoping it would run natively, with proper supported drivers or at least an X-input mode.
 

FrankWza

Member
yeah, update on that. it is recognised as a standard USB controller. so no home button and no other features work aside from the standard button inputs

I also suspect that it will have similar compatibility issues as the DS4, so games like Yakuza 5 will not work with it. (that's the only one I remember from the top of my head)



but... that's the case on every PS controller. they are all connected crosses, the design was originally only the way it is because of Nintendo's patent on the cross shape dpad.

I know. That’s why I said it feels like iteven though it’s quadrants. Each of the 4 are further raised and you can quarter circle without touching the base of the controller. You can’t do that on DS4.
Edit:feels more like Vita dpad
 
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iHaunter

Member
I got the Pulse 3D and Media controller today. Still waiting for DualSense, Amazon seems to be by far the slowest shipper - ironically.
 

01011001

Banned
I know. That’s why I said it feels like iteven though it’s quadrants. Each of the 4 are further raised and you can quarter circle without touching the base of the controller. You can’t do that on DS4



ok that's good news.
the DS4 dpad was an improvement in terms of shape, the older DS1-3 dpads had super harsh edges and a huge gap in the middle which would really fucking hurt during longer fighting game sessions.
the DS4 was a bit low tho.

so good that they further enhanced the design... I still think the Vita Dpad is the best Sony Dpad to this date... the only issue about that was that the left stick was in the way and in heated situations you could easily clash with it, resulting in unwanted inputs... the dpad on its own tho was fucking glorious.

it was similar to the Logitech PS2 wireless controller, which is my favourite Dpad ever.
 
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