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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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SSfox

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this meme reply in the comments ha!!

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TJC

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Obviously there will be the ppl who make a way bigger deal out of this post *sees other threads* but honestly it feels like this is gonna end up as a patched software limitation atleast imo. Glad John and some others are taking notice. Would love to see it revisited in a few months and see if it actually makes a difference or not. (I don't expect much, but I would love to know)
Sony will patch this for sure, there is no reason it shouldn't support VRR and the features HDMI 2.1 brings with it. Patience people.
 

kyliethicc

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Now I am going to hear it from my brother "HAHAHAAH WEAK PS5 CAN'T EVEN HANDLE 4:4:4 at 4K@120"

Am I intrigued by it? Sure. But, What good is more color information if I have to turn down the eye candy to even sustain those frame rates at the resolution? Sure, that object/texture looks like GARBAGE but OMG those colors, so accurate, so DEEP!
PS5 just uses 4:2:2 for now when at 4K 120 HDR10. Its not a big deal.

They'll update the PS5 HDMI 2.1 port soon enough and add VRR as well. Then it'll be full 48 Gb/s and allow for 4K 120 HDR10 RGB 4:4:4 w/ VRR.
 

kyliethicc

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Has PS blog always stated VRR was coming in future update? I know we all expected it but didn't know if Sony had actually had that in the blog all this time lol
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They're waiting for the official HDMI Forum to final their official HDMI 2.1 VRR implementation.

Same reason why Sony's X900H TV (the "ready for PS5" TV) can do 4K @ 120 Hz via HDMI 2.1 but has not had VRR added via update yet.
 

FrankWza

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They're waiting for the official HDMI Forum to final their official HDMI 2.1 VRR implementation.

Same reason why Sony's X900H TV (the "ready for PS5" TV) can do 4K @ 120 Hz via HDMI 2.1 but has not had VRR added via update yet.

also, trying to find true 48gbps 2.1 hdmi cables is an absolute shit show right now. Good luck getting one more than 6 feet that’s really true to spec. Even under 6 is a gamble
 
also, trying to find true 48gbps 2.1 hdmi cables is an absolute shit show right now. Good luck getting one more than 6 feet that’s really true to spec. Even under 6 is a gamble

I just got these today and so far seems fine but have only been using it with my PS5 on the X900H .

Edit it price of about $13 bucks and its 6' long


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assurdum

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I checked different Dirt 5 video gameplay, I could be wrong but I could swear after the vsync patch, ps5 is full of annoying stuttering in more taxing scene, where with the previous soft vsync, tearing was barely a problem but performance was smoother. To the other side, seems series X doesn't seems show such issue after the patch. God I hope they haven't screwed the ps5 version just add the forced vsync on both. Would be really irritating. Hope it's just a wrong impression.
 
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VCL

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Let's go with another NextGen comparison! This time the results are somewhat more interesting, but not much. Both versions run at a dynamic resolution between 1440p and 2160p. PS5 has a higher average resolution (at least in the parts that I have compared it is noticeably better in some areas), on the other hand, the drawing distance and the anisotropic filtering are higher in XSX. Regarding the framerate, both consoles run at a rate of 30fps. I have not experienced falls or tearing in any, however, I have not subjected them to very marked stress (many explosions, large load of enemies on the screen ... etc). Ray Tracing is exactly the same on both platforms, the equivalent of the low PC setting.
 

kyliethicc

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also, trying to find true 48gbps 2.1 hdmi cables is an absolute shit show right now. Good luck getting one more than 6 feet that’s really true to spec. Even under 6 is a gamble
Yup, because the HDMI forum has just finished their official Ultra High Speed HDMI cable certification like weeks ago.

At least the consoles include this type of UHS HDMI cable.
 

FrankWza

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Yup, because the HDMI forum has just finished their official Ultra High Speed HDMI cable certification like weeks ago.

At least the consoles include this type of UHS HDMI cable.

yeah. Only problem for me is, needed a bit more room. She’s a big one that PS5. Kinda like da ass on dat kylie. Boof. I have to find space where I can and keep it well ventilated.
 

ethomaz

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The 2160p 120 Hz HDR10 RGB 4:4:4 checklist

XSX/S - yes

PS5 - not yet, update coming (4K @120 HDR10 is 4:2:2 for now)

Nvidia RTX 30 cards - yes

AMD RX 6000 cards - yes? idk

Nothing else can, I think.
Weirdly enough is that both Series X and RTX 3000 cards doesn't work with the newer 8K Receivers because it output 4k120fps HDR in 4:4:4 chroma... you get a black screen.
PS5 is fine because it output in 4:4:2 chroma.

This guy is saying it is a bug in the HDMI chipset made by Panasonic.

 
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cebri.one

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Holy shit, I decided to wast 10 minutes of my life to listen to this guys, and there is a "developer" mumbling things that clearly he knows nothing about. Holy shit the desperation.

Real quote "go compare the sound of the early SNES games to the later ones, and there you'll see how much improvement can be made because of tools and optimization".
 
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sircaw

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Remember guys if this thread closes down, we have another one open.

Feel free to join that one to continue socializing :messenger_grinning:



DO NOT FUCKING JOIN THAT THREAD UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES IF YOU ARE A SONY FAN
 

sircaw

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Holy shit, I decided to wast 10 minutes of my life to listen to this guys, and there is a "developer" mumbling things that clearly he knows nothing about. Holy shit the desperation.

Real quote "go compare the sound of the early SNES games to the later ones, and there you'll see how much improvement can be made because of tools and optimization".

They are in a bubble, i tried to listen to them today, they really are full of bullshit and the amount of mistruths on that podcast is out of control, the amount of damage control and actively trying to throw shade on sony with anything possible is insane.

I really feel sorry for the fans that watch that shit, they are being lied to on a daily basis.

Everything is twisted.
 
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When will developers start using the new generation of consoles to their fullest, developing games specifically for the next cycle, that maybe cannot be run on the PS4?

History will tell you that it’s in the second or third year that the developers really hit their stride. Developers typically need a little bit of time to familiarize themselves [with the hardware]. But it’s probably 2022 that you’re going to see some wonderful things in the same way that it was 20152016 for the previous generation, when the generation defining-games started to be published.

Jim Ryan has done a lot of interviews in the past few days with a lot of interesting nuggets, I recommend giving them a read. We just need to wait for the deep technical articles now from Mark Cerny.
 

kyliethicc

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Jim Ryan has done a lot of interviews in the past few days with a lot of interesting nuggets, I recommend giving them a read. We just need to wait for the deep technical articles now from Mark Cerny.
Good to hear they want the same 7+ year life cycle for the PS5 as PS4.

Imagine the SIE PS5 games in 2025-27, from Naughty Dog and Santa Monica, Insom, GG, Sucker Punch etc.
 
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