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[SatansReverence]

What 40% difference?

Scenes of 40fps vs 60 fps on the xsx.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Scenes of 40fps vs 60 fps on the xsx.

Are you talking about the bugs?

 

[Cherrypepsi]

Scenes of 40fps vs 60 fps on the xsx.

uhmm, looks like you have not really seen the comments right above you



looks like it was indeed just a glitch after all

 

[Exanthus]

And no one cares about you SatansReverence and the trash that your spread for months on end with your fud mates, How do those chickens feel, now that they have come home to roost.

A troll and fud spreader that finally got put in his place.

I am glad i caught this post before it was deleted.

Its amazing that Sony shills like you are magically protected around here and can post your bullshit for months on end with zero repercussions.

Hows that upto 40% performance gains in cold war chickens taste?

But but but that one scene in the helicopter that gets the same drops on both consoles but I can screen grab that one moment where there is nothing happening on PS5 vs combat on the XSX that shows better performance!!!

 

[Stuart360]

Them tweets from DF, and John especially. Imagine having to do this for a living and put it with pathetic fanboying about a light etc.
I hope they get paid well lol.

 

[DeepEnigma]

uhmm, looks like you have not really seen the comments right above you



looks like it was indeed just a glitch after all

 

[MasterCornholio]

uhmm, looks like you have not really seen the comments right above you



looks like it was indeed just a glitch after all

So a drop to 55FPs when everything is working properly. So a 9% difference with the XSX version for less than a second. That's almost nothing in my opinion.

Clearly it's nowhere near a 40%-50% sustained advantage.

Edit: This is what I mean by consistent.

 

[DForce]

A lot of people disappeared after the update video. lol

 

[sircaw]

Its amazing that Sony shills like you are magically protected around here and can post your bullshit for months on end with zero repercussions.

Hows that up to 40% performance gains in cold war chickens taste?

But but but that one scene in the helicopter that gets the same drops on both consoles but I can screen grab that one moment where there is nothing happening on PS5 vs combat on the XSX that shows better performance!!!

The only shills around here are you and your fellow comrades, for months we fought your propagada bullshit, you should be ashamed of yourself, you, dealer, Eastwood, KK, dee, the whole lot of you, so many of your types caused mayhem and strife on this forums, spreading fud and crap every single day.

Where is the apology to the forum for your none stop constant crap you spread, nowhere to be seen, as soon as the results came out, where were you?

Let me tell you where you were, Nowhere to be found, hiding, cowering away like a coward troll that you are.

You deserve to be called out, why should you be allowed to get away with it, your degraded Sony and their hardware all the time, chipping in with your nasty remarks, pissing of people on the community all the time.

If you want this to end, just apologize to the forum,

But no, you won't do that, you will continue to spread your rubbish, just like this bolded bit, Hows that up to 40% performance gains in cold war chickens taste?,

Why can't you fucking stop spreading Fud?

You continue to get caught out and somehow it's everyone else fault?

Here is a Pro-tip for your Genuis, stop spreading fud and i will stop calling you out, which in turn will stop making you feel bad about yourself.

Stop doing this to yourself, learn your lesson and move on.

i am not changing for you, or your mates, end of story.

 

[Ritsumei2020]

> Report me for console warring.

Seems the mods were spot on.

I know, Im sorry

Its not that I am bad, its just that I was released early and my tools are not ready yet

 

[Celcius]

How does this thread talking about Cold War console performance have 22 pages but the OT for the game only has 7 pages? lol

 

[Shmunter]

How does this thread talking about Cold War console performance have 22 pages but the OT for the game only has 7 pages? lol

Next gen peaks such interest.

Either way, my PS5 copy will remain shrink wrapped until the performance bug is confirmed fixed.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Ive never play a single COD campaign before. But because im playing games that use the DualSense, Im playing one for the first time. Heavy Dualsense is gonna get me to play certain games. They feel empty without them. My go-to RS Siege feels hallow at the moment.

 

[Dave_at_Home]

A lot of people disappeared after the update video. lol

True.

Seemed like a bug (memory leak?) from the get-go. One of those scenes with drops didn't even seem to have much in the way of ray tracing to begin with.

Oh well. Both sides will exit their trenches again next big multi-platform game. The final straw will be a multi-platform game built from the ground up for SeriesX/PS5. Everyone please go home after that. In the meantime, maybe everyone waits for multiple tests with these cross-platform games.

Or not. It's GAF.

 

[M_A_C]

Next gen peaks such interest.

Either way, my PS5 copy will remain shrink wrapped until the performance bug is confirmed fixed.

Yeah that 2 seconds of cutsceen will completely ruin the experience.

 

[Shakka43]

you obviously didn’t see the post about the PS5 having things in different places where the PC which has the highest setting has objects in the same place as Xbox.

That just means that while the PC and Series X can run the game at ultra settings, the PS5 can run it at ultra duper settings.

 

[AgentP]

Yeah that 2 seconds of cutsceen will completely ruin the experience.

Serious, do people play games anymore? How many people would even notice this if not told? 99% it is 60fps.

 

[SatansReverence]

Are you talking about the bugs?

I wonder if the bug narrative holds in the other threads?

 

[ethomaz]

@Riky thoughts?

That is one of the multiples reason I prefer exclusive development.

BTW they released another video and now PS5 shows even more horse power.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I wonder if the bug narrative holds in the other threads?

Dirt 5?

I mean Digital Foundry did contact the developers about it. Remains to be seen what the fix will do to the game.

It's still a pretty funny bug especially the headlights.

Also Digital Foundry themselves said it was a bug in the PS5 version of COD. Just watch the update.

 

[ethomaz]

I wonder if the bug narrative holds in the other threads?

I get the impression everybody is waiting the fix to see how the framerate will play with high quality assets.

 

[Thirty7ven]

I wonder if the bug narrative holds in the other threads?

Once Dirt 5 is patched and XSX looks same as PS5 version and doesn’t perform worse than before, then we will know it is a bug.

In Cold War all you need is to reload checkpoint to prove it.

 

[Cherrypepsi]

But I really believe XSX dropping frames with the torch scene in Valhalla is a glitch too, there is no way this hardware couldnt handle it.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Once Dirt 5 is patched and XSX looks same as PS5 version and doesn’t perform worse than before, then we will know it is a bug.

In Cold War all you need is to reload checkpoint to prove it.

Found this comment from John quite interesting.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

uhmm, looks like you have not really seen the comments right above you



looks like it was indeed just a glitch after all

So RT mode is even but PS5 still has the edge in 120Hz mode.

 

[ethomaz]

But I really believe XSX dropping frames with the torch scene in Valhalla is a glitch too, there is no way this hardware couldnt handle it.

Even PC and PS5 drops framerate in the torch lol
It is because the torch is a new source of light in the scene that dynamic chances everything being processed... it is heavy workload.

 

[Mod of War]

Its amazing that Sony shills like you are magically protected around here and can post your bullshit for months on end with zero repercussions.

Hows that upto 40% performance gains in cold war chickens taste?

But but but that one scene in the helicopter that gets the same drops on both consoles but I can screen grab that one moment where there is nothing happening on PS5 vs combat on the XSX that shows better performance!!!

The only shills around here are you and your fellow comrades, for months we fought your propagada bullshit, you should be ashamed of yourself, you, dealer, Eastwood, KK, dee, the whole lot of you, so many of your types caused mayhem and strife on this forums, spreading fud and crap every single day.

Where is the apology to the forum for your none stop constant crap you spread, nowhere to be seen, as soon as the results came out, where were you?

Let me tell you where you were, Nowhere to be found, hiding, cowering away like a coward troll that you are.

You deserve to be called out, why should you be allowed to get away with it, your degraded Sony and their hardware all the time, chipping in with your nasty remarks, pissing of people on the community all the time.

If you want this to end, just apologize to the forum,

But no, you won't do that, you will continue to spread your rubbish, just like this bolded bit, Hows that up to 40% performance gains in cold war chickens taste?,

Why can't you fucking stop spreading Fud?

You continue to get caught out and somehow it's everyone else fault?

Here is a Pro-tip for your Genuis, stop spreading fud and i will stop calling you out, which in turn will stop making you feel bad about yourself.

Stop doing this to yourself, learn your lesson and move on.

i am not changing for you, or your mates, end of story.

Both of you take your argument to DMs or move along entirely.

Thank you.

 

[Exanthus]

I'm an Xbox fan, but all this FUD nonsense is embarrassing.

Can't we all just get along? We have two new consoles with amazing capabilities which we could be talking about, rather than pointing fingers at who was right or wrong.

 

[Shelookdlvl18]

True.

Seemed like a bug (memory leak?) from the get-go. One of those scenes with drops didn't even seem to have much in the way of ray tracing to begin with.

Oh well. Both sides will exit their trenches again next big multi-platform game. The final straw will be a multi-platform game built from the ground up for SeriesX/PS5. Everyone please go home after that. In the meantime, maybe everyone waits for multiple tests with these cross-platform games.

Or not. It's GAF.

Your prediction is an accurate one. It'll happen, and the vast amount of people will "go home after that". Even though you didn't say it, why that will happen is perfectly clear.

Digital Foundry comparison videos will be extremely prominent on GAF for the time being, and will continue to be. Each comparison released will spawn threads with double digit pages like clockwork.

That is until those comparisons begin show a clear disparity between the two consoles, with results favoring the Xbox. It is at this precise point that DF's comparisons will fall from grace, and into obscurity. Resulting in nothing more than another piece of the wallpaper as it makes it steady scroll through the pages of threads.

No crows will roost, and no chicken will be had. At that point, the usual lot will work as if their life depended on it to change the narrative. At that point, graphics won't matter as long as they're good enough. Whatever the PS5 is consistently capable of achieving, will be the exact point that is deemed appropriate to hit. Anything above that is a waste of resources chasing unneeded aspects, and anything below is trash. Not that any of it will matter anyway, as it's the games that are important. THE GAMES! Unless all those Microsoft acquisitions pay off, and they start pumping out some quality titles.

Then the narrative will change to whatever random point or feature that the PS5 does better or can at least be argued as such than the Xbox. Then it'll be something like it's the haptics that are important. THE HAPTICS! or THE SSD!

Same story, different gen. Someone should write a script for Groundhog Gen. I bet Bill Murray would sign on.

 

[captainraincoat]

Christ
You guys are still arguing over Launch games on Launch Hardware......we have not even had the usual major post launch patch yet or the system firmware updates yet

 

[Shmunter]

Yeah that 2 seconds of cutsceen will completely ruin the experience.

What can I say, only the best for a connoisseur like myself

 

[Dave_at_Home]

What can I say, only the best for a connoisseur like myself

Never cross the connoisseur...

 

[JonkyDonk]

Your prediction is an accurate one. It'll happen, and the vast amount of people will "go home after that". Even though you didn't say it, why that will happen is perfectly clear.

Digital Foundry comparison videos will be extremely prominent on GAF for the time being, and will continue to be. Each comparison released will spawn threads with double digit pages like clockwork.

That is until those comparisons begin show a clear disparity between the two consoles, with results favoring the Xbox. It is at this precise point that DF's comparisons will fall from grace, and into obscurity. Resulting in nothing more than another piece of the wallpaper as it makes it steady scroll through the pages of threads.

No crows will roost, and no chicken will be had. At that point, the usual lot will work as if their life depended on it to change the narrative. At that point, graphics won't matter as long as they're good enough. Whatever the PS5 is consistently capable of achieving, will be the exact point that is deemed appropriate to hit. Anything above that is a waste of resources chasing unneeded aspects, and anything below is trash. Not that any of it will matter anyway, as it's the games that are important. THE GAMES! Unless all those Microsoft acquisitions pay off, and they start pumping out some quality titles.

Then the narrative will change to whatever random point or feature that the PS5 does better or can at least be argued as such than the Xbox. Then it'll be something like it's the haptics that are important. THE HAPTICS! or THE SSD!

Same story, different gen. Someone should write a script for Groundhog Gen. I bet Bill Murray would sign on.

Same story? When has that fantasy you just wrote ever happened before?

 

[Shmunter]

H

Christ
You guys are still arguing over Launch games on Launch Hardware......we have not even had the usual major post launch patch yet or the system firmware updates yet

Truly, how long is a piece of string?

The debate has no beginning nor an end. It’s ever lasting. So it shall be written, so it shall be done.

 

[PropellerEar]

Your prediction is an accurate one. It'll happen, and the vast amount of people will "go home after that". Even though you didn't say it, why that will happen is perfectly clear.

Digital Foundry comparison videos will be extremely prominent on GAF for the time being, and will continue to be. Each comparison released will spawn threads with double digit pages like clockwork.

That is until those comparisons begin show a clear disparity between the two consoles, with results favoring the Xbox. It is at this precise point that DF's comparisons will fall from grace, and into obscurity. Resulting in nothing more than another piece of the wallpaper as it makes it steady scroll through the pages of threads.

No crows will roost, and no chicken will be had. At that point, the usual lot will work as if their life depended on it to change the narrative. At that point, graphics won't matter as long as they're good enough. Whatever the PS5 is consistently capable of achieving, will be the exact point that is deemed appropriate to hit. Anything above that is a waste of resources chasing unneeded aspects, and anything below is trash. Not that any of it will matter anyway, as it's the games that are important. THE GAMES! Unless all those Microsoft acquisitions pay off, and they start pumping out some quality titles.

Then the narrative will change to whatever random point or feature that the PS5 does better or can at least be argued as such than the Xbox. Then it'll be something like it's the haptics that are important. THE HAPTICS! or THE SSD!

Same story, different gen. Someone should write a script for Groundhog Gen. I bet Bill Murray would sign on.

Ass toot predictions or XSX powering your dreams?

 

[Dave_at_Home]

Your prediction is an accurate one. It'll happen, and the vast amount of people will "go home after that". Even though you didn't say it, why that will happen is perfectly clear.

Digital Foundry comparison videos will be extremely prominent on GAF for the time being, and will continue to be. Each comparison released will spawn threads with double digit pages like clockwork.

That is until those comparisons begin show a clear disparity between the two consoles, with results favoring the Xbox. It is at this precise point that DF's comparisons will fall from grace, and into obscurity. Resulting in nothing more than another piece of the wallpaper as it makes it steady scroll through the pages of threads.

No crows will roost, and no chicken will be had. At that point, the usual lot will work as if their life depended on it to change the narrative. At that point, graphics won't matter as long as they're good enough. Whatever the PS5 is consistently capable of achieving, will be the exact point that is deemed appropriate to hit. Anything above that is a waste of resources chasing unneeded aspects, and anything below is trash. Not that any of it will matter anyway, as it's the games that are important. THE GAMES! Unless all those Microsoft acquisitions pay off, and they start pumping out some quality titles.

Then the narrative will change to whatever random point or feature that the PS5 does better or can at least be argued as such than the Xbox. Then it'll be something like it's the haptics that are important. THE HAPTICS! or THE SSD!

Same story, different gen. Someone should write a script for Groundhog Gen. I bet Bill Murray would sign on.

Pretty much a wash and repeat of PS4 and Xbox One. Except this time it seems like any multi-platform difference will be even smaller. I think I spoiled the ending to this film but always watch for the after credits scene.

 

[JonkyDonk]

Pretty much a wash and repeat of PS4 and Xbox One. Except this time it seems like any multi-platform difference will be even smaller. I think I spoiled the ending to this film, but always watch for the after credits scene.

What? In what world was that nonsense he wrote a repeat of the PS4 and Xbox One generation?

 

[thelastword]

Can you imagine the number of false conclusions we would be subjected to if VGTECH and Nxgamer were not around or how many wrong face off conclusions we would have been subject to or how many we have been subjected to over the years, uncontested..

VGTECH is the ultimate stats machine, just objective data, most accurate rez counts and all drawn from like for like gameplay....Both this gen and last would be a farce without them..

I just have one thing to say to DF, be more humble, you are really in no position to be cocky, if we did not point out your shortcomings, you would have delivered yet another video with wrong conclusions and biased commentary whilst missing a world of details. There would be no redress.

VG Tech has been right 100% of the time going by history and DF has course corrected many times to agree with VG Tech's information, in many instances, VG Tech has published their video with 100% accurate information way ahead of DF too. It may be wise now for DF to check Vgtech's stats and findings and do more thorough work before they post their videos in the future...

Try to improve your videos instead of battling people who disagree with your findings on twitter. Had they not agitated, you would simply be wrong thinking that you were right, that is certainly not a place of strength, but humility and accepting correction is certainly a much better place to build from.

Cursing people on Twitter is unbecoming, does not make you look good and just defensive because you were wrong, that time should be spent doing more thorough analysis, so you don't miss such obvious things. It just seems John is more fueled by fanboyism and warring, than he cares to admit, perhaps that's why they select words and phrases to bait, hence all the giggling he and Leadbetter makes when they say something controversial or with an obvious slant.

They know exactly what they are doing, they try to bait so they can get hits and get their comment section livewired, but always pretend they hate warring, it's the fuel that feeds their channel, but the disingenuous, biased and manipulative dialogue and interactions has been seen for what it is ages ago, we just want fair comparisons that are thorough without all the slants and drama, set one standard that you abide by for all faceoffs.

 

[Dave_at_Home]

What? In what world was that nonsense he wrote a repeat of the PS4 and Xbox One generation?

Okay...

What I'm referring to is the hysteria surrounding performance differences between PS4 and Xbox One back in the day. For all the nonsense surrounding those differences, look where we're at today. Nobody cares. They exist and it's not that big of a deal.

What we also know is that the differences between PS5 and Series X are smaller than that of PS4 and Xbox One. With that in mind, once people get their hands on games built from the ground up on these new systems, the hardcore will eventually come to terms with whatever small differences there are. Again, they will be smaller than what is now last gen. The hysteria will pass and nobody will care. Rise and repeat. See you at PS5 Pro and Series X2.

 

[Redlancet]

It's a bigger difference than what they showed with Valhalla. I called this shit a while ago for all the die hard Sony Ponies. SX gonna get some wins, PS5 will get some wins, we'll start seeing the SX pull away as we get further in the Gen. But again, when the differences are like this, it's like a tallest midget contest, only people that care are the ones emotionally invested in it. Neither consoles "wins" are so drastic that it's give either camp buyers remorse so it'll just entrench all the mouth breathers to fight even harder for their preferred plastic and the cycle continues. PC gamers just have to sit and laugh.

pc gamers are just dealing with cheaters on every single online game,as a pc gamer myself no thanks,also "sony ponies" ? wtf u used that term outside of primary school?

 

[JonkyDonk]

Okay...

What I'm referring to is the hysteria surrounding performance differences between PS4 and Xbox One back in the day. For all the nonsense surrounding those differences, look where we're at today. Nobody cares. They exist and it's not that big of a deal.

What we also know is that the differences between PS5 and Series X are smaller than that of PS4 and Xbox One. With that in mind, once people get their hands on games built from the ground up on these new systems, the hardcore will eventually come to terms with whatever small differences there are. Again, they will be smaller than what is now last gen. The hysteria will pass and nobody will care. Rise and repeat. See you at PS5 Pro and Series X2.

I don't disagree with your sentiment, but read what that other guy wrote, it was Xbox fanboy wet dream stuff completely detached from reality.

 

[thismeinteil]

Another W for PS5. Damn. Granted this one is much closer. Of course, Xbox guys were telling us to prepare for a 30%+ advantage for XSX, not parity.

Found this comment from John quite interesting.

Odd response. I thought they said Dirt 5 ran fine in 120fps mode. Just a few spots, one of which was just a track intro, where it dropped. Seems like damage control to me. Are we just going to get an update that lowers the PS5 quality in that mode? If so, I call BS on that.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Another W for PS5. Damn. Granted this one is much closer. Of course, Xbox guys were telling us to prepare for a 30%+ advantage for XSX, not parity.




Odd response. I thought they said Dirt 5 ran fine in 120fps mode. Just a few spots, one of which was just a track intro, where it dropped. Seems like damage control to me. Are we just going to get an update that lowers the PS5 quality in that mode? If so, I call BS on that.

Lowering detail would improve performance but increasing it would hurt it. So by fixing the bug on the XSX wouldn't that hurt performance of nothing else is done? Apparently the bug decreases the visual settings on the XSX increasing those settings would make the game more difficult to run.

I'm interested to see how the developers handle this. Hopefully the visuals increase without a hit to performance.

 

[sircaw]

Can you imagine the number of false conclusions we would be subjected to if VGTECH and Nxgamer were not around or how many wrong face off conclusions we would have been subject to or how many we have been subjected to over the years, uncontested..

VGTECH is the ultimate stats machine, just objective data, most accurate rez counts and all drawn from like for like gameplay....Both this gen and last would be a farce without them..

I just have one thing to say to DF, be more humble, you are really in no position to be cocky, if we did not point out your shortcomings, you would have delivered yet another video with wrong conclusions and biased commentary whilst missing a world of details. There would be no redress.

VG Tech has been right 100% of the time going by history and DF has course corrected many times to agree with VG Tech's information, in many instances, VG Tech has published their video with 100% accurate information way ahead of DF too. It may be wise now for DF to check Vgtech's stats and findings and do more thorough work before they post their videos in the future...

Try to improve your videos instead of battling people who disagree with your findings on twitter. Had they not agitated, you would simply be wrong thinking that you were right, that is certainly not a place of strength, but humility and accepting correction is certainly a much better place to build from.

Cursing people on Twitter is unbecoming, does not make you look good and just defensive because you were wrong, that time should be spent doing more thorough analysis, so you don't miss such obvious things. It just seems John is more fueled by fanboyism and warring, than he cares to admit, perhaps that's why they select words and phrases to bait, hence all the giggling he and Leadbetter makes when they say something controversial or with an obvious slant.

They know exactly what they are doing, they try to bait so they can get hits and get their comment section livewired, but always pretend they hate warring, it's the fuel that feeds their channel, but the disingenuous, biased and manipulative dialogue and interactions has been seen for what it is ages ago, we just want fair comparisons that are thorough without all the slants and drama, set one standard that you abide by for all faceoffs.

honestly speaking here, i think digital foundry have been very wishy washy ol late with some of their reviews, perhaps they are trying to pump to much content out, perhaps they need to employ some other people to help them in creating there work.

I like their work on a whole, its clear, easy to follow but it almost feels they are stuck and need to evolve.

They also miss rightly or wrongly miss to many things and this needs to change.

NXGamer is by all accounts is just far superior now and they need to catch up to match him.

I hope they improve but for me they are failing in what made them so special a long time ago

 

[anothertech]

Oh man! What a thread lolol.

Love love LOVE console launches and these glorious comparisons!!! Thank you DF.

THIS is the shit we've been waiting for.

Good on Sony, making an actual piece of gaming hardware artistry.

I mean, it makes no actual sense the results are ending up this way. But I think it's going to continue.

Inexplicably, the balanced to hell and back piece is matching or outperforming the giant revving engine. It reminds me of Initial D lol

 

[MasterCornholio]

I mean, it makes no actual sense the results are ending up this way. But I think it's going to continue.

I think Sony is doing something different with the PS5 and most pele are not capable of understanding it.

I remember Digital Foundry was really confused with the variable clocks and how they would work in the system.

It really is a weird system that seems to be really we designed. Definitely wasn't expecting this level of performance from it.

 

[thismeinteil]

Lowering detail would improve performance but increasing it would hurt it. So by fixing the bug on the XSX wouldn't that hurt performance of nothing else is done? Apparently the bug decreases the visual settings on the XSX increasing those settings would make the game more difficult to run.

I'm interested to see how the developers handle this. Hopefully the visuals increase without a hit to performance.

Yea. If it truly is just a bug, they should be able to push the quality higher with little hit to performance. But, if it really has been lowered to help it perform better, increasing visuals will hit performance pretty hard. I just find it strange he is even suggesting that the PS5 version be lowered to the XSX's level.

 

[Shelookdlvl18]

I don't disagree with your sentiment, but read what that other guy wrote, it was Xbox fanboy wet dream stuff completely detached from reality.

Detached from reality? Xbox fanboy wetdream you say?

What I wrote is an accurate description of the statistical history of this forum. You think the term Sonygaf just fell out of the sky or something? You think other forums don't exist that can be easily compared to?

Have someone go back over the archives of GAF, compile all the RELEVANT data, show that premise is not based in reality, and I'll buy you a PS5. Shipped to anywhere of your liking.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Yea. If it truly is just a bug, they should be able to push the quality higher with little hit to performance. But, if it really has been lowered to help it perform better, increasing visuals will hit performance pretty hard. I just find it strange he is even suggesting that the PS5 version be lowered to the XSX's level.

A little odd since it isn't a disaster on the PS5. If it ran like crap then they should reduce the settings.

I guess what they really don't want to see is the XSX losing peformance due to an increase in visuals. That would be difficult for them to explain after saying that it was just a bug.

Although I personally do believe it's a bug especially those headlights.

 

[JonkyDonk]

Detached from reality? Xbox fanboy wetdream you say?

What I wrote is an accurate description of the statistical history of this forum. You think the term Sonygaf just fell out of the sky or something? You think other forums don't exist that can be easily compared to?

Have someone go back over the archives of GAF, compile all the RELEVANT data, show that premise is not based in reality, and I'll buy you a PS5. Shipped to anywhere of your liking.

I'm not talking about gaf, I'm talking about you claiming that grand victories are to come for Xbox this gen and that it will be a repeat of last gen.........those two things don't match up.