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[Spukc]

Agreed when they dropped this news i was like...

Fucking really???
perfect DORK??

but hey maybe they do nail it!
a tech based female lead shooter like syphon filter etc.. why not

but overall lame IP

banjo kazooie 3
Killer instinct 4
Golden eye
Maybe a new classic doom (sonic mania style)

 

[Neo Blaster]

Did you see the reaction videos. Hardcore gamers are pumped as its an IP people love. PS Fanboys are angry for the same reason. Casuals who are older know this game and will play it. It's a great move

Perfect Dark for Nintendo 64 was already inferior to Goldeneye 64 from the same dev, and Perfect Dark Zero for Xbox 360 was even worse. Not exactly the most thrilling franchise to bring back from oblivion. The Initiative should definitely prove their talent by making a new IP, not refurbishing an old one.

 

[Jada]

The only reason Perfect Dark was popular is because people saw it as a spiritual successor to Goldeneye. Nobody gives a fuck about it now.

 

[FlyyGOD]

So as many of you I've been busy playing Keanupunk 2017 and completely missed the Game Awards (random thought make the Game Awards should replace E3?)
anyways today i learned MS is forcing The Initiative to reboot Perfect Dark an overrated ok game from the 2000s its sequel was trash. My question is why go around poaching all this hot talent from around the world only for them to make a game from an existing franchise why not allow them to make something that they want?
It just boggles the mind, this is why their first party studio is shait they have clueless people making decisions. Been Xbox 2 gens now Playstation here i come.

How do you know that this isnt the game that The Initiative wanted to make in the 1st place? This post comes off as totally clueless and salty.

 

[BigTnaples]

The original Perfect Dark was one of the best games ever made. Still is. (XBLA version holds up to this day)


What are you on about?

 

[THEAP99]

Yeah & honestly perfect dark isn't even a household IP either. No idea wtf they were thinking.

Missed opportunity big time. New single player only AAA IP is something people have been begging xbox for for a while now.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

They really should have brought back something like Crimson Skies or worked out a way to get Mech Assault back, they already have enough sci fi/futuristic shooters with Halo and Gears. That being said they need to focus on new IP not continually trying to bring back tired old franchises that their own userbase rejected.

 

[Daxter32jak]

Dude wait for the game to come out before judging it

 

[DisguiseArrsick]

Perfect Dark had all the hype 20 years ago because it was the spiritual sequel to Goldeneye when Rare lost the bond licence. The expectation of some more of that FPS excellence, which for the console space was rare, no pun intended, till Microsoft came along with Halo.
It had some cool new gadgets, extra multiplayer options and loads of levels. The plot and characters were nothing special. Just typical sci-fi shlock, nothing to write home about. Joanna Dark was a non-entity. A fancy re-skin, nothing more.
It was a great game for its time.
Now this new game has nothing but the nostalgia for the name to go on. It is not made by Rare. it is not made by the original game's devs and even that had most of the original Goldeneye team jump ship early to set up Free Radical.
I wish the new devs the best of luck but if they don't bring anything new in the gameplay department what is the point?

 

[CaptainConlock]

Perfect Dark is an "overrated ok" game? Son, sit down.

 

[Royal-Slime]

At this point I don't believe Microsoft can make anything new and good. Their presentations were bad, all they showed was boring to me. They keep promising and promising and in the end it doesn't mean anything. Is it that difficult to get Sakaguchi and make a new FF rival? Instead of that god-awful zombie survival game they've shown? Is it that difficult to re-release Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon if you "love J. games and value J. market" so much?

Or look at that Obsidian RPG game, Outer Worlds. Absolutely dull in every way possible, like a Chinese Fallout copy.

I just don't get it how Xbox keeps getting away with all these empty promises and no games. Is the power of their brand that strong?

 

[Xenon]

My question is why go around poaching all this hot talent from around the world only for them to make a game from an existing franchise why not allow them to make something that they want?

Because its a new team and they don't have years for them to mesh and come up with an idea and build a world around it. I think PD is open enough where a team cam make it their own. It starts them in a direction. So far it looks like they have taken many liberties with the futuristic setting by going more eco than Blade Runner yet still held on to corporation rule.

 

[NullZ3r0]

Perfect Dark is just an IP that they can do anything with.

 

[AmuroChan]

Did you see the reaction videos. Hardcore gamers are pumped as its an IP people love. PS Fanboys are angry for the same reason. Casuals who are older know this game and will play it. It's a great move

I'm excited for PD, but Reaction videos are not a good barometer for eventual success. People make them to earn a quick buck on YT, nothing more. Remember the reaction videos of Shenmue III and how the internet blew up? When the game finally came out nobody gave a rat's ass about that game. It came and went like it never even existed.

 

[01011001]

So as many of you I've been busy playing Keanupunk 2017 and completely missed the Game Awards (random thought make the Game Awards should replace E3?)
anyways today i learned MS is forcing The Initiative to reboot Perfect Dark an overrated ok game from the 2000s its sequel was trash. My question is why go around poaching all this hot talent from around the world only for them to make a game from an existing franchise why not allow them to make something that they want?
It just boggles the mind, this is why their first party studio is shait they have clueless people making decisions. Been Xbox 2 gens now Playstation here i come.

first of all, Perfect Dark is better than 90% of today's shooters.

and second of all, Microsoft doesn't force anyone to do anything, which honestly can be a big issue for them.

look at Rare... they didn't want to do another Banjo jump n run so Microsoft just let them do whatever they want.
as a result we got the very controversial Banjo Nuts & Bolts (which is really good if you give it a chance) and the cortical and somewhat commercial success Viva Piñata.
2 extremely weird and experimental games with pretty big budgets.

but Rare fans weren't happy, not at all! they wanted Banjo 3, they wanted Perfect Dark 2 or Conker 2 (3)

Rare didn't want to make those tho, and concepts for some of these IPs either turned to dust or became stuff people hated like Nuts & Bolts.

Rare doesn't want to make Perfect Dark so Microsoft looked for people that want to.

and who better to make a sequel to Perfect Dark than the director of Resistance and Ratchet & Clank?

shooter experience, experience with cool weapon ideas and experience with adventure elements.

if anyone can do it it is them.

do you also think that Microsoft just one day went: "you know who would be the best studio to reboot Fable? THE GUYS THAT MAKE ALL THOSE RACING GAMES!"??? hell no, what most likely happened in both cases was Microsoft threw the idea out there of making a new Fable and a new Perfect Dark, two IPs that they neglected for a long time, and these 2 studios/people who work there then basically came forward and decided that that's a great idea for their teams respective projects.

 

[AJUMP23]

You know nothing about what this company wants to do. They took MS money. They probably discussed before money changed hands what they would build. MS and Initiative agreed they could all work together to make something.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Imagine being this triggered after a generic CGI trailer.

 

[Mr.Vodoo]

So as many of you I've been busy playing Keanupunk 2017 and completely missed the Game Awards (random thought make the Game Awards should replace E3?)
anyways today i learned MS is forcing The Initiative to reboot Perfect Dark an overrated ok game from the 2000s its sequel was trash. My question is why go around poaching all this hot talent from around the world only for them to make a game from an existing franchise why not allow them to make something that they want?
It just boggles the mind, this is why their first party studio is shait they have clueless people making decisions. Been Xbox 2 gens now Playstation here i come.

So much BS being spouted.

No one is forced to do anything. You are hired by a company to do what they want. The Initiative has been working on this game for multiple years, and during that time, several developers were hired. Surely they knew what was going on before they put pen to paper.

I agree that this team should have worked on a new IP, and that is the only sensible thing you said. Everything else is just u all up in your feelings about something you have no knowledge of.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Yeah & honestly perfect dark isn't even a household IP either. No idea wtf they were thinking.

Missed opportunity big time. New single player only AAA IP is something people have been begging xbox for for a while now.

"People have been begging"?

Publishers don't listen to people begging. They study the market, look at internal metrics and make projections.

The 2,000 people begging for certain games on Twitter, message boards, reddit aren't particularly relavent when you're spending 100-150 million on a new game.

 

[killatopak]

It would have been nice if it was just not another shooter.

Xbox is just full of shooter games. Maybe make something else?

 

[Pallas]

because its a lousy premise for a game. and im not interested in the subject matter.

Get over yourself, the world doesn’t resolve around you. The presentation was a big positive for many who has been waiting ages for a hopeful successor to the underrated gem on the N64 and why on earth do you assume they were forced?I imagine like all other newly acquired studios they had their choice on what to do.

 

[Pallas]

It would have been nice if it was just not another shooter.

Xbox is just full of shooter games. Maybe make something else?

Perfect Dark wasn’t just a shooter though.

 

[bxrz]

Perfect Dark is basically a new IP for most gamers, it hasnt gotten a game in 15 years.

 

[Cato]

new original IP. they could have passed it on to The Coalition if they really needed to make this game. But a AAAA perfect dark doesn't exist.

You say you don't want a AAAA perfect dark.
What if I told you Phil has ordered The Initiative to make a AAAAAA perfect dark?

/s (I am not really super excited either about a reboot of a mediocre doom clone from 20 years ago)

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Everyday since Microsoft purchased Rare and all their IP: "Microsoft has run Rare into the ground, destroyed their legacy, and sits in a bunch of beloved IP with no plans to use them!"

Everyday since Microsoft announced Perfect Dark Reboot: "Why would they bring back Perfect Dark instead of creating a new IP? No one asked for this!

 

[oagboghi2]

All this big talk from MS. " AAAA" blah blah blah bullshit...just so they can make another first person shooter

 

[Aguero9320]

Immediately jumped to the top of my most anticipated list. Ridiculous OP.

 

[oagboghi2]

first of all, Perfect Dark is better than 90% of today's shooters.

What drugs are you taking?

 

[SentientStone]

Maybe I am getting old but I feel these nostalgic properties help seduce me into the Xbox ecosystem.
Killer Instinct was mighty tempting and this one if done well might just get me to get an Xbox when it's cheap at the end of the generation.

To be honest I kind of fell off the gaming franchise bandwagon around the PS3 generation.
It seems most of the games that I want to play now are remakes or sequels to the stuff I played in high school or elementary.

 

[bxrz]

All this big talk from MS. " AAAA" blah blah blah bullshit...just so they can make another first person shooter

Sony fanboys really ran with the AAAA stuff lol

 

[Jboemios]

I dont know what it is worst. Your take in the initiative rebooting Perfect Dark, or wanting to replace E3 with that shit Game Awards.

 

[oagboghi2]

Sony fanboys really ran with the AAAA stuff lol

MS fanboys still Perfect Dark is a reevant franchise lol

 

[bxrz]

MS fanboys still Perfect Dark is a reevant franchise lol

They can make it relevant. Thats the point

 

[Papacheeks]

What's the reasoning behind that suggestion?

The coalition was originally working on a spy/third person game before Microsoft gave them the Gears license.

 

[jigglet]

Do you have proof they were 'forced' to make Perfect Dark? Do you know that the game won't be good? Why not wait for it to come out to attack it?

This. If I were asked to make a game and had the option to revisit PD you better believe it would be high on my list.

 

[Grumpy Toe Nail]

because its a lousy premise for a game. and im not interested in the subject matter.

You have no idea what the gameplay even really looks like. Game has such little history and been missing for so long they can do whatever the fuck they want with it. Microsoft probably just wants a strong SJW female lead to compete with TLOUS lol.

 

[EDMIX]

MS is forcing The Initiative to reboot Perfect Dark

Well....I'm not sure. I'm just as pissed off as I want them to focus on a new IP to bring in new consumers, I don't know if I'd go as far as to say they forced them to do this as for all we know this team really likes Perfect Dark and always wanted to do this IP or something .

 

[onnextflix5]

Lets see gameplay before we judge. Probably should have gone with a new ip. As its gives u more control. This is a less risky option i guess. I thinking mix of bond and lara Croft maybe.

 

[Great Hair]

Do you have proof they were 'forced' to make Perfect Dark?

2018
We’ve been given the freedom to explore, try new things and operate like an independent studio, .....

Spoiler: source

E3 2018: Microsoft Opens Brand New Game Studio The Initiative in Santa Monica - Xbox Wire

This morning during the Xbox E3 2018 Briefing we announced the formation of The Initiative, a new first-party game studio based in Santa Monica, California. I’m thrilled to join the Microsoft Studios family as it is clear to me that the gaming team at Microsoft shares my passion for...

news.xbox.com

2020
Here is Perfect Dark Freeza ... ; is this freedom of choice? Explore new things? Not really.

 

[Iced Arcade]

Someone get this man a hug and find his mother

 

[Knitted Knight]

Obsidian's Avowed is the new IP. I'm sure Bethesda has other things cooking too.

 

[Shmunter]

The sunny, super bright trailer felt like a disconnect with the title. Either way, hope they build a good game and not just gamepass filler.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I love the Perfect Dark IP, hate what they did with PD Zero....glad they're bringing it back so long as it's good.

The new direction is definitely a little odd, being so bright and all. Was expecting something darker, at night, and in a much more futuristic city.

But I'm down if it's good.

 

[CatLady]

because its a lousy premise for a game. and im not interested in the subject matter.

WTF were Xbox and The Initiative thinking? It sounds like they didn't even consult you to see if you were interested in this game?!?!?!?

It seems like a lot of people are really excited for a new Perfect Dark, but hopefully they will cancel it now that you've made it known YOU are not interested in it.

 

[93xfan]

So as many of you I've been busy playing Keanupunk 2017 and completely missed the Game Awards (random thought make the Game Awards should replace E3?)
anyways today i learned MS is forcing The Initiative to reboot Perfect Dark an overrated ok game from the 2000s its sequel was trash. My question is why go around poaching all this hot talent from around the world only for them to make a game from an existing franchise why not allow them to make something that they want?
It just boggles the mind, this is why their first party studio is shait they have clueless people making decisions. Been Xbox 2 gens now Playstation here i come.

If you’re that dramatic over an announcement, then good riddance.
And the 1st perfect Dark was great, btw

 

[Shrennin]

At this point, Perfect Dark returning will basically be a reinvention of the IP (already said as much in the interview, it's clearly a reboot).

Also, the fact that Rare has created two new IP (Sea of Thieves and the upcoming Everwild) demonstrates that Microsoft isn't forcing its developers to make any game under any IP. Otherwise, they would have Rare develop at least some of their IPs in house, but Rare has said that they are only interested in developing new IP. The Initiative certainly wouldn't be forced to work on a Rare legacy IP if they didn't want to, especially since Rare is clearly not forced to themselves. It's been said that Microsoft studios can choose to work on any of the IP that Microsoft has should they want to (and in this case, it appears that Initiative wanted to work on bringing back Perfect Dark).

 

[MadPanda]

How do you k ow they're forcing them to make a game? They're free people not slaves. Darell Gallagher and other studio heads must have had discussions with Phil and Matt prior to joining the team so they must've known what they're getting into.

Besides, how exactly would it make a better game if it were a new IP? A new IP is not a magic bullet for an amazing game. For many players, myself included, it will be as a new IP as we have no connection to the other two games.

 

[93xfan]

because its a lousy premise for a game. and im not interested in the subject matter.

I’m thinking you didn’t even watch the trailer or interviews

 

[dlbeast]

What i would like to know is the OP facts versus the opinion on said subject matter. If the OP can demonstrate the context objection as fact, then i would consider it an appropriate voice of concern. If it is not, then what does this mean for the OP?

 

[THEAP99]

"People have been begging"?

Publishers don't listen to people begging. They study the market, look at internal metrics and make projections.

The 2,000 people begging for certain games on Twitter, message boards, reddit aren't particularly relavent when you're spending 100-150 million on a new game.

Perfect Dark is a niche title and not a household name. Good luck with that.