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Opinion: Cyberpunk 2077 is one of the most DISAPPOINTING games ever!

rofif

Banned
The Witcher 3 was nowhere near as broken as this game is.
There are many videos which list removed features, not working features, ai, quests, chocies, rpg issues.
All of those videos posted here are met with comments "oh not this guy, this video sucks, not that video, that video is bullshit"
 

Odradek

Banned
Ten hours? A whole ten hours summed up by boiling the game down to the absolute basics and definitely making some stuff up. Your opinion is your opinion and all but I'll be sure to do just that in the next Sony exclusive wankfest thread. Lol, absolutely adorable.

I'll take my leave of this thread and let some of you keep paying attention to and even playing this "undercooked piece of shit."

10 hours was plenty. All I needed to see just how much of a fluke The Witcher 3 was for CDPR. So why would I waste anymore of my time playing this uninspired jankfest Bethesda clone when I could be playing any number of games that are far more worthwhile?

I hear AC Valhalla and Demon’s Souls calling my name, “Samurai”.
 
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Ten hours? A whole ten hours summed up by boiling the game down to the absolute basics and definitely making some stuff up. Your opinion is your opinion and all but I'll be sure to do just that in the next Sony exclusive wankfest thread. Lol, absolutely adorable.

I'll take my leave of this thread and let some of you keep paying attention to and even playing this "undercooked piece of shit."

It's undercooked but it doesn't mean everything about the game is bad or unenjoyable

When all is said and done even the devs will thank the ones who spoke up to light a fire under CDPR's ass so managment and leadership would get their shit together
 
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Woggleman

Member
There are many things wrong with it but after gamers constantly complaining that games are too long I don't want to hear anybody complain when a game is too short.
 

waquzy

Member
After 50 hours of CP77, I am of the opinion the TW3 was a mere capturing lightning in a bottle and CDPR are one trick ponies.

CP77 isn't a terrible game, it's got good bits in it, but hardly any of them are coherent with each other, it amazes me that they spent 8 YEARS on it, it's mediocre at best.
It was never going to match TW3 in quality, as many of the lead developers left CDPR during developing CP 2077
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
After 50 hours of CP77, I am of the opinion the TW3 was a mere capturing lightning in a bottle and CDPR are one trick ponies.

CP77 isn't a terrible game, it's got good bits in it, but hardly any of them are coherent with each other, it amazes me that they spent 8 YEARS on it, it's mediocre at best.
As a fun of the Witcher series I can tell you they are not a one-trick pony. Witcher 1 is incredible achievement in storytelling and great use of the IP. Witcher 2 is also very strong and a nice self-contained game not going for bloat, similar to Mass Effect 2. Witcher 3 is an extension of these ideas - what they did right (story telling) paired with great open world.

I have to say CP 2077 feels like a step back in everything apart from world building, I expected characters to be more meaningful and the stakes a bit higher, but maybe my love of the Witcher saga is making me say it.

They should have gone for what many open-world games should have done: half the map size, much more time spend on choices, consequences, and role-playing.
 

JCK75

Member
I have no experienced very many bugs but the more I play the more it's clear how much more work this game needs.
I really hope they are allowed to keep working as long as needed to make the game they intended to make because what is there is a solid base if they clean it up and massively improve the AI, driving, etc.
 

Alebrije

Member
Oh, I like this game! GTA 5 is better than Cyberpunk because YouTube video. Ok, let me try:



GTAIV is better than GTA 5 because YouTube video.



GTA San Andreas is better than GTA IV because YouTube video.



GTA Vice CIty is better than GTA San Andreas because YouTube video.

So, GTA Vice City is better than Cyberpunk 2077. And, if we continue along this route, using the power of logical transference, the original GTA on PS1 is also better than Cyberpunk 2077. And that doesn't consider logical gates that create branches, such as Saints Row 2 being better than GTA San Andreas, which means Saints Row 2 is better than GTAV and thus better than Cyberpunk 2077, but Saints Row 3 is better than Saints Row 2, which means Saints Row 3 is also better than Cyberpunk 2077. Hmmm, this is going to get complicated. Can you do a flow chart showing how transference moves down through all the various games where we have YouTube videos showing which one is objectively superior? In theory, we should be able to arrive at the objective best game ever - which is obviously not Cyberpunk 2077, and probably Pong or PacMan. Thanks!

Agree that Pac Man is better than Cyberbug...solid gameplay no bugs or data lost, endless tension and has the same performance on most consoles...so everyone enjoys similar experience.
 

waquzy

Member
I have no experienced very many bugs but the more I play the more it's clear how much more work this game needs.
I really hope they are allowed to keep working as long as needed to make the game they intended to make because what is there is a solid base if they clean it up and massively improve the AI, driving, etc.
It’s not even the bugs that are game breaking, it’s the whole design/ coding of the game: the worst driving AI ever seen, worst spawning of cops ever seen, worst spawning/de-spawning of traffic ever seen in a game.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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So ignore everything ?
Many things are worse, dropped in footage alone. Whole features are gone.
And the narrator just spews bullshit all the time. none of what he says is true

No. Look at the gameplay and the world. It's basically the same. If I were to roam around doing ultra slow pans with an analog stick controller I could create something very similar.

It’s not even the bugs that are game breaking, it’s the whole design/ coding of the game: the worst driving AI ever seen, worst spawning of cops ever seen, worst spawning/de-spawning of traffic ever seen in a game.

While you're definitely right about the driving AI and cop spawning system. I think even if they magically replaced what they have with the system in GTAV (not possible, I know, but hypothetically), it would not dramatically change the overall experience with the game either way. It would certainly make it feel that much more polished, which would be a plus for sure, but I don't think those poor elements of the game really affected my time with the game all that much. They just aren't that important to me.
 
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It was never going to match TW3 in quality, as many of the lead developers left CDPR during developing CP 2077

It makes a whole Lotta sense now.

By any chance you know where they landed their talents? any major AAA studios? prolly MS gangstaz scooped them up by now.

It’s not even the bugs that are game breaking, it’s the whole design/ coding of the game: the worst driving AI ever seen, worst spawning of cops ever seen, worst spawning/de-spawning of traffic ever seen in a game.
That's ridiculous, who are the hiring-Interns straight outta Jr High? What you mentioned tho, nothin but faxs. How can you sit there and let this pass cert/QA is mind-boggling.

(Don't get it twisted tho, everything else in the game GOAT status for me)
 

waquzy

Member
It makes a whole Lotta sense now.

By any chance you know where they landed their talents? any major AAA studios? prolly MS gangstaz scooped them up by now.


That's ridiculous, who are the hiring-Interns straight outta Jr High? What you mentioned tho, nothin but faxs. How can you sit there and let this pass cert/QA is mind-boggling.

(Don't get it twisted tho, everything else in the game GOAT status for me)
I have no Idea where the devs who left CDPR are working now, but there were many of them...
 

JCK75

Member
It’s not even the bugs that are game breaking, it’s the whole design/ coding of the game: the worst driving AI ever seen, worst spawning of cops ever seen, worst spawning/de-spawning of traffic ever seen in a game.
That seems like the sort of stuff that is meant to be in the final tightening that never happened.. I feel like it can be saved, but they just need to commit that it will take 4-5 months to do it and not try to rush it all to save it now.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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It makes a whole Lotta sense now.

By any chance you know where they landed their talents? any major AAA studios? prolly MS gangstaz scooped them up by now.


That's ridiculous, who are the hiring-Interns straight outta Jr High? What you mentioned tho, nothin but faxs. How can you sit there and let this pass cert/QA is mind-boggling.

(Don't get it twisted tho, everything else in the game GOAT status for me)

I'm guessing they had a different system that was causing tons of problems they couldn't sort out in time for launch, so they scrapped it and replaced it with some cobbled together illusion of a simulation to get the thing out the door. That's usually how these things happen in game development rather than any kind of developer incompetence.
 

Larxia

Member
Already did. I did it by playing the game and forming my own opinion instead of parroting some grifter Youtuber trying to sell more shitty ironic merch. Does he also use grossly misquoted translastions posted on Reddit as his sources or does he steal clips from people and monetize the video? Having a hard time sifting through all the bullshit they all just run together.
Except the video they sent you is an official gameplay video from CD Projekt, you didn't even click on it. You asked what promised features were missing, someone send you a demo video from CD Projekt about said features, yet you refuse to watch it or acknowledge their existence.
Honestly it's getting embarassing, you just refuse every arguments and will protect everything in this game at all cost.
 
Except the video they sent you is an official gameplay video from CD Projekt, you didn't even click on it. You asked what promised features were missing, someone send you a demo video from CD Projekt about said features, yet you refuse to watch it or acknowledge their existence.
Honestly it's getting embarassing, you just refuse every arguments and will protect everything in this game at all cost.

On mobile so I didn't see any video info. My mistake and I'll take the heat for that.

Anyways, I saw that video already when it released. You know, that same video that has a giant WORK IN PROGRESS - DOES NOT REPRESENT THE FINAL LOOK OF THE GAME headline plastered at the top and the narrator said multiples times throughout the video that this is a WORK IN PROGRESS....

The only thing embarrasing here is some people apparently are unable to read at a functional level and understand a giant headline in a 48 min video. I asked for a list of these "promised" features, that weren't announced as cut or never existed in the first place except in the minds of consumers. Instead I got some weak personal jabs at me and "why dontchu geeeetttt it" replies. I haven't seen one credible argument beyond a subjective opinion but I would like to read one. Fire away!

"Protect it at all costs" lol. Just tired of half-truths and lies being puked out by bitter internet people and Youtube merch stores fronting as "reviews."
 
Wow @ some people in this thread. Seriously, shilling for this game is quite pathetic.

Cowardly posts from losers right here.
The gear mod system of the game is broken too. You know, the actual RPG side of it. The core game mechanics is fucked.
That ontop of the game breaking mission glitches, graphical bugs and braindead AI. How many times did I walk into a camp and headshot enemies from point blank range without them even reacting to me.
Game of the year material this game? You'd have to be high out of your mind to claim that.

What's wrong with the gear mod system? The core mechanics are fucked?
Game breaking mission glitches? Never had one. The AI of NPCs and cops is braindead... but that has nothing to do with enemy AI in missions or friendly AI. I dunno, how many times did you do that? Doesn't happen for me and unlike you I upload most my footage of me playing for anyone to see. I'd have to be high to think it's GOTY material? Why because your experience invalidates mine?
These are all normies though. Even few people at my work who never play video games and make fun of me for "being a gamer" bought and play 2077... and they love it. THey don't see anything wrong with police, ai, disappearing cards, people, no choices in quests or everything that was removed. NORMIES - CASUALS.

Like - they say "I will play this for 200 hours. You only played for 50 hours?! That's nothing... but when it comes to progress, i am further than them.". If You are someone who don't play video games and the last thing You played was fifa or witcher3 then You know.
Then, they play on like lowest setting and say "it runs great on my 5600xt !" Or I show them ps4 footage and they do not see it's running 15fps.
That's what majority of people are. That's how masses of normies see games. they don't know any better.
Edit: Adding to that - They will do every side quest and gig there is. No matter if it's simplest fetch quest in existence... They don't play other games. To me, it's not worth my time. it's filler

Look, guys, it's the ultimate pro gamer.
10 hours was plenty. All I needed to see just how much of a fluke The Witcher 3 was for CDPR. So why would I waste anymore of my time playing this uninspired jankfest Bethesda clone when I could be playing any number of games that are far more worthwhile?

I hear AC Valhalla and Demon’s Souls calling my name, “Samurai”.

It took me more than 10 hours to hit the title screen.
It's undercooked but it doesn't mean everything about the game is bad or unenjoyable

When all is said and done even the devs will thank the ones who spoke up to light a fire under CDPR's ass so managment and leadership would get their shit together

Yeah, some of the people making a fuss are going to result in a better experience down the line but not sure they ought to be thanking everyone. A lot of people just sound like entitled brats.
It’s not even the bugs that are game breaking, it’s the whole design/ coding of the game: the worst driving AI ever seen, worst spawning of cops ever seen, worst spawning/de-spawning of traffic ever seen in a game.

Ah, so all the elements that are ancillary to the core experience, nothing to do with well... any quest no matter how small? If your problems with the game don't extend beyond how the open world functions when you aren't engaging with the elements tailored for you to enjoy (anything with a map icon) then you aren't addressing the core experience.
 
After 50 hours of CP77, I am of the opinion the TW3 was a mere capturing lightning in a bottle and CDPR are one trick ponies.

CP77 isn't a terrible game, it's got good bits in it, but hardly any of them are coherent with each other, it amazes me that they spent 8 YEARS on it, it's mediocre at best.


Witcher 3 wasnt lightning in a bottle. Witcher 1 and 2 were excelent games. They were so good and succefull that they allowed them to reach to Witcher 3. Console gamers tend to dismiss them though since they're more or less pc only. Witcher 1 is also mouse and keyboard only which is kinda simillar to cancer for console gamers.
 

scalman

Member
what you people talking here about ? console version ? because pc version works fine from 1.03 patch no problems on pc what so ever. so maybe its about console then. yes devs shouldnt release console version which crash so often there...
 

Komatsu

Member
a fluke The Witcher 3 was for CDPR.

Ryan Gosling Lol GIF


Yes, a fluke indeed.

cdpr-scores.png
 

G-Bus

Banned
About 30 hours in and I'm still not sure how I feel about it. The glowing reviews are a bit baffling, even with overlooking the bugs.

And holy fuck Keanu Reeves shit voice acting.

It's all mediocre. Hopefully they shed some light on what happened during development because 8 years and this is what they got...
 

aries_71

Junior Member
It’s not even the bugs that are game breaking, it’s the whole design/ coding of the game: the worst driving AI ever seen, worst spawning of cops ever seen, worst spawning/de-spawning of traffic ever seen in a game.
Never seen an AI so incapable of driving in a game that insists so much on having you being driven by the AI on missions. Just played the Claire and River missions, where they insists on having the NPCs drive you. They both got stuck in the first 10 meters and were unable to unstuck themselves. CDPR must know the system is totally broken.
 
I have no experienced very many bugs but the more I play the more it's clear how much more work this game needs.
I really hope they are allowed to keep working as long as needed to make the game they intended to make because what is there is a solid base if they clean it up and massively improve the AI, driving, etc.
It's horrible.

Bikes have the turning circle of a semi at low speed. Sports cars handle like they're driving on ice.
 

V4skunk

Banned
This is what a broken port looks like
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This is what a broken port doesn't look like
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Rewritting history isn't going to make Cyberpunk look better
Google it you clown.
You'll see all the whiny console plebs like your self crying about constant crashes, low fps, glitched npcs etc...
 

aries_71

Junior Member
About 30 hours in and I'm still not sure how I feel about it. The glowing reviews are a bit baffling, even with overlooking the bugs.

And holy fuck Keanu Reeves shit voice acting.

It's all mediocre. Hopefully they shed some light on what happened during development because 8 years and this is what they got...

Keanu voice acting is shit. Seeing him deliver the stupid lines while sporting brown leather tight pants and aviator sunglasses is the cherry on the top. Sad and comical at the same time.

Still remember some clown defending his whole acting here at Neogaf.
 

waquzy

Member
Keanu voice acting is shit. Seeing him deliver the stupid lines while sporting brown leather tight pants and aviator sunglasses is the cherry on the top. Sad and comical at the same time.

Still remember some clown defending his whole acting here at Neogaf.
Truth to be told, that is how Keanu is and sounds
 
Google it you clown.
You'll see all the whiny console plebs like your self crying about constant crashes, low fps, glitched npcs etc...

Yeah, i'll find like one or two random posts crying about crashes

You see, when a game has widespread issues like the one's you've conjured up, you tend to see signs of that, like a 3.5 user score on metacritic.
 
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Pachi72

Member
With all the performance issues and so many bugs. I blame the Red Engine. They should of used the Unreal 4 engine.
 

Woggleman

Member
The thing is that most of the criticism is spot on but with that said I am still greatly enjoying this game. I enjoy it much more than some perfectly polished games.
 
That was great.

But jesus, so many 10/10 this game got. Are media afraid of telling the truth so they don't receive backlash? That 7/10 Gamespot girl got hammered

I've seen that bad video, it isn't about the core gameplay, it's about open world interactions, glitches and things promised not in the game.
 
I decide my GOTG based on how traffic AI behaves.
It looks bad when a 2013 game has more advanced NPC AI than Cyberpunk.
I mean you shoot your weapon out in the open world in Cyberpunk and the NPC's just cower down and cover their heads Lol.
Even GTA3 (from 2001) NPC's run from danger when you start firing your weapon in their vicinity. Its embarrassing CDPR couldn't even get this most basic thing right.

The game is fun. I'm still playing it (with broken mod system and all) but there are glaring issues with the most basic open world functions of this game.
 
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