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The Last of Us Part 2 is now the 3rd most GOTY awards winner of all time. Let's see the top 10.

SSfox

Member
Imagine taking Video games journalists and awards seriousely
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Awards and journalists can suck each others dicks all day i can't care less

This is the best game of all time:

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It was good but as a video game meaning gameplay and having addictive fun, it was demon souls. Demon Souls was the best game this year hand down IMO.
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
That's like saying the best song is the one that has the most views on youtube. These things are not a popularity ranking.

Sure it is.

It's a popularity ranking of 100 or so out of touch game critics.

Vs

A popularity ranking of what 200+ million real gamers choose to spend their hard earned time on.

I'll trust the gamers.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
Sure it is.

It's a popularity ranking of 100 or so out of touch game critics.

Vs

A popularity ranking of what 200+ million real gamers choose to spend their hard earned time on.

I'll trust the gamers.

What? lol

You're comparing single player games to multiplayer games. Multiplayer games (especially free-to-play multiplayer games) are going to be played more than single player games.

What you're saying is that gamers think Call of Duty, Apex Legends, Fortnite, DOTA 2, PUBG and Gran Theft Auto V some of the best games ever made just because they're among most played games in 2020.
 

Woman7

Banned
Summarized, the more cinematic the more game awards.
Might as well hand out the oscars to the films with the most amount of tits and cunts. I mean we all love tits and cunts - why even focus on script, or in the case of game awards; gameplay?

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sainraja

Member
Opinions are opinions, but I have a hard time picturing how TLOU2 has swept the awards the way it has on the merits of the game content. It's probably going to go down as under appreciated in its time by the vocal internet users. Message boards will probably be more receptive to it in the future. I still think a lot of people had their minds made up from the leaks.

As far as expectations from mainstream media regarding their GOTY choice I can see why they'd choose a big budget AAA as GOTY as anything that resembles movies seem to be their objective standard to quality, but I'd expect more "gamer" focused outlets with their fingers on the pulse to go for a game like Hades.

It is what it is. Congratulations to Naughty Dog.
I have my problems or issues with TLOU: P2 but its success isn't because it is a like a movie. Having characters in your game that have some depth and have good voice over does not make a game into a movie (most games have voice overs now). The gameplay for Part 2 was pretty solid, it's just the pacing and structure where I feel like it could have done better. Regardless, point is, it is a solid game, not a movie game or a game that resembles a movie.
 

sainraja

Member
Summarized, the more cinematic the more game awards.
Might as well hand out the oscars to the films with the most amount of tits and cunts. I mean we all love tits and cunts - why even focus on script, or in the case of game awards; gameplay?

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So then, the Wither is the most cinematic games of all the games listed in that list?
 

Bragr

Banned
This lacks context, The Last of Us: Part 2 got the easiest road to GOTY of almost any game on that list. 2017 and 2018 were a lot more competitive and it's more impressive for games to win in those years.

The biggest competitor it had was Hades, which never had a chance. It got a free pass for GOTY since Cyberpunk didn't deliver. This list means virtually nothing, it's like a 40-2 boxer who only fought chumps.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
How could a borefest like UC4 win so many GOTY awards lmao

Before someone calls me a hater, I think the awards for UC2 are mostly justified.
it was not a strong year for video games. i believe overwatch did beat out UC4 in the critics vote by just just one award.

But other than that, it is bizarre. the game is a snoozefest and by far the worst uncharted.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The market loves COD, Fifa, NBA2K, Fortnite, Minecraft, Roblox.

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slimysnake said:
it was not a strong year for video games. i believe overwatch did beat out UC4 in the critics vote by just just one award.

But other than that, it is bizarre. the game is a snoozefest and by far the worst uncharted.

Other than a couple young Drake moments, the game was some of the most fun gameplay to be had in an Uncharted game.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Opinions are opinions, but I have a hard time picturing how TLOU2 has swept the awards the way it has on the merits of the game content.
Really? i think it won based on the game's content despite the mixed reaction to the story and the controversial leaks. The game has very little flaws when it comes to gameplay. You can argue that the characters were boring and the story didnt work for you, and I will be with you, but I look at all the other big GOTY contenders and TLOU2 easily beats out all of them in almost every single category.

  • Graphics? THE best. Amazing animation system. Best cutscene facial animations ever. Phenomenal world detail and lighting beat out probably only by cyberpunk in that particular area.
  • Combat? This is subjective. I personally thought the A.I, combat mechanics, and controls were up there with the best combat systems of this year. FF7, Ghost, Warzone, Demon Souls, Cyberpunk and Miles all play great are probably on par but i wouldnt fault anyone for picking TLOU2 over those games. I dont think i have ever played a third person shooter that gave me so many different tools to take out enemies. The revamped melee system and dodging really put this above MGSV which to me is the gold standard for TPS.
  • Level design and setpieces: I would love to play a game that had setpieces as intense as this game. I loved the exploration and combat setpieces like when Abby has no guns and has to use just her fists and hammer to take out clickers. Not to mention the incredible chase scenes and boss fights.
  • Story and cutscenes: There are simply no games out there with better dialogue, better facial animations and cutscene direction. We can argue about Abby being boring, and the game being devoid of humor, but there is no doubt that the "content" as you say is top notch.
The game won because of the content.
 

brenobnfm

Member
What the, Witcher 3 is the top? Uncharted 4 above 2? Weird ranking

I see no problem, TW3 is the GOAT and U4 makes U2 look lik an amateur project.


Why Dragon Age Inquisition is on the list?

Because it's a great game and much more deserving than trash like God of War, BotW, TLoU 2 and Skyrim.

Really? i think it won based on the game's content despite the mixed reaction to the story and the controversial leaks. The game has very little flaws when it comes to gameplay. You can argue that the characters were boring and the story didnt work for you, and I will be with you, but I look at all the other big GOTY contenders and TLOU2 easily beats out all of them in almost every single category.

  • Graphics? THE best. Amazing animation system. Best cutscene facial animations ever. Phenomenal world detail and lighting beat out probably only by cyberpunk in that particular area.
  • Combat? This is subjective. I personally thought the A.I, combat mechanics, and controls were up there with the best combat systems of this year. FF7, Ghost, Warzone, Demon Souls, Cyberpunk and Miles all play great are probably on par but i wouldnt fault anyone for picking TLOU2 over those games. I dont think i have ever played a third person shooter that gave me so many different tools to take out enemies. The revamped melee system and dodging really put this above MGSV which to me is the gold standard for TPS.
  • Level design and setpieces: I would love to play a game that had setpieces as intense as this game. I loved the exploration and combat setpieces like when Abby has no guns and has to use just her fists and hammer to take out clickers. Not to mention the incredible chase scenes and boss fights.
  • Story and cutscenes: There are simply no games out there with better dialogue, better facial animations and cutscene direction. We can argue about Abby being boring, and the game being devoid of humor, but there is no doubt that the "content" as you say is top notch.
The game won because of the content.

The pacing of the game is abysmal with the structure they went with, the gameplay loop is good but it's made for a game with 15h tops, Ellie's story was already pushing it.
 
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nemiroff

Gold Member
Nobody should give a fuck what the establishment gaming urinalists think is the "GOTY". The meta here, in my opinion.., is discussing how faux pas "GOTY" (and not the least award shows in general) is in the first place.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Other than a couple young Drake moments, the game was some of the most fun gameplay to be had in an Uncharted game.
Combat was easily the best but there was so little of it. I remember replaying the combat encounters and i found that there were only around 3 hours of combat in the game. the rest of walking and climbing. Now thats not that bad for a 6-8 hour game but when your game is 15 hours and you end up waiting literally an hour before a 15 minute combat section, it starts to get really boring.

I remember doing several breakdowns of chapters and how literally entire 45 minute chapters had no combat sections or even puzzles.
 

brenobnfm

Member
Combat was easily the best but there was so little of it. I remember replaying the combat encounters and i found that there were only around 3 hours of combat in the game. the rest of walking and climbing. Now thats not that bad for a 6-8 hour game but when your game is 15 hours and you end up waiting literally an hour before a 15 minute combat section, it starts to get really boring.

I remember doing several breakdowns of chapters and how literally entire 45 minute chapters had no combat sections or even puzzles.

Thank fucking god because Uncharted Gears of War wannabe combat is trash and the worst part of these games, that's why Uncharted 4 is so much better than Uncharted 2.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
The pacing of the game is abysmal with the structure they went with, the gameplay loop is good but it's made for a game with 15h tops, Ellie's story was already pushing it.
Yeah, the pacing is bad especially when they make you start over as Abby and have you sit through her boring aquarium flashbacks, but they also gave Abby the best boss fights and setpieces. I hate played the game on my first playthrough so didnt notice them but when looking back and on my second playthrough I realized just how many great setpieces she had.

- Truck chase sequence. Amazing graphics and scale despite being a on rails sequence.
- Forest melee setpiece. Amazing atmosphere. Rain, lit by fire, and Our first taste of how powerful she is and just how much fun she can to play as.
- First brute boss fight.
- Hospital Boss fight.
- Horse run through the fields on the island.
- Second Brute boss fight.
- Ellie boss fight.
 
Yeah, the pacing is bad especially when they make you start over as Abby and have you sit through her boring aquarium flashbacks, but they also gave Abby the best boss fights and setpieces. I hate played the game on my first playthrough so didnt notice them but when looking back and on my second playthrough I realized just how many great setpieces she had.

- Truck chase sequence. Amazing graphics and scale despite being a on rails sequence.
- Forest melee setpiece. Amazing atmosphere. Rain, lit by fire, and Our first taste of how powerful she is and just how much fun she can to play as.
- First brute boss fight.
- Hospital Boss fight.
- Horse run through the fields on the island.
- Second Brute boss fight.
- Ellie boss fight.
yeah Abbies section is honestly FAR far better than Ellie’s imo. Except for that last mission at the compound where you play as Ellie which was maybe the best level in the game. Ellie’s first half really began to drag.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Except for that last mission at the compound where you play as Ellie which was maybe the best level in the game.
you are the second person to tell me this which is funny because i pretty much ran through this section. it was almost 3 in the morning and i had been playing for 5-7 hours straight thinking the game would finish any moment. started at day 3 with abby and didnt realize there was still a lot of game left after day 3 ends. i kept saying to myself that the game shouldve ended on the farm and just mentally checked out and rushed my way through the rest of the game.
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
What? lol

You're comparing single player games to multiplayer games. Multiplayer games (especially free-to-play multiplayer games) are going to be played more than single player games.

What you're saying is that gamers think Call of Duty, Apex Legends, Fortnite, DOTA 2, PUBG and Gran Theft Auto V some of the best games ever made just because they're among most played games in 2020.

Multiplayer games aren't inherently "more played" than single player games. We all played Evolve. We all played Anthem. We all played The Avengers.

Good games are inherently more played than bad games.

The best games in the industry over the last 10 years just happen to be from the multiplayer side. Single player has been floundering for quite a while. It's stagnation is in desperate need of innovation.
 

sainraja

Member
There weren't as many goty awards given out back then right?
You got my point, mr. Literal. Don't deny.

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Well, yes and no. I don't think a game having good voice acting and good characters with some depth makes it into a movie. Uncharted, Last of Us and RDR2 are also good games in their genre.
 

sainraja

Member
Multiplayer games aren't inherently "more played" than single player games. We all played Evolve. We all played Anthem. We all played The Avengers.

Good games are inherently more played than bad games.

The best games in the industry over the last 10 years just happen to be from the multiplayer side. Single player has been floundering for quite a while. It's stagnation is in desperate need of innovation.
People keep saying single player games are floundering but there is no evidence to suggest that.
 

evanft

Member
Both manlet TLOU games looking up at a true titan of critical praise, gaming excellence, and ploughing must enrage so many Sony apologists and the "SEEDEEPEEAARGH r trAnzphobes and wacists!" crowd.

This is like celebrating some disposable pop singer because she has a million Spotify plays. Same reason Marvel movies make a billion dollars. Pedestrian content made for people with terrible tastes. "Official" GOTY awards are fucking garbage anyways and just one more way for people to feel a product validates their lives. What a sad world we live in. Very cool for the devs to get recognition for their work and hope they get some bonuses after all those years though.

Jesus Christ what happened to you in your life that lead you to be the person who makes these kind of posts on the internet?
 

Woman7

Banned
Well, yes and no. I don't think a game having good voice acting and good characters with some depth makes it into a movie. Uncharted, Last of Us and RDR2 are also good games in their genre.

I'm not saying they are movies...the game awards seem to gravitate towards cinematic games instead of game games.

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Ballthyrm

Member
Really? i think it won based on the game's content despite the mixed reaction to the story and the controversial leaks. The game has very little flaws when it comes to gameplay. You can argue that the characters were boring and the story didnt work for you, and I will be with you, but I look at all the other big GOTY contenders and TLOU2 easily beats out all of them in almost every single category.

  • Graphics? THE best. Amazing animation system. Best cutscene facial animations ever. Phenomenal world detail and lighting beat out probably only by cyberpunk in that particular area.
  • Combat? This is subjective. I personally thought the A.I, combat mechanics, and controls were up there with the best combat systems of this year. FF7, Ghost, Warzone, Demon Souls, Cyberpunk and Miles all play great are probably on par but i wouldnt fault anyone for picking TLOU2 over those games. I dont think i have ever played a third person shooter that gave me so many different tools to take out enemies. The revamped melee system and dodging really put this above MGSV which to me is the gold standard for TPS.
  • Level design and setpieces: I would love to play a game that had setpieces as intense as this game. I loved the exploration and combat setpieces like when Abby has no guns and has to use just her fists and hammer to take out clickers. Not to mention the incredible chase scenes and boss fights.
  • Story and cutscenes: There are simply no games out there with better dialogue, better facial animations and cutscene direction. We can argue about Abby being boring, and the game being devoid of humor, but there is no doubt that the "content" as you say is top notch.
The game won because of the content.

Most of these attributes aren't necessary to make a great game.
You could make a great game without a story, without great graphics, without combat , without level set pieces.

This isn't how you should judge a game IMHO.

Look at Katamari Damacy , Overcooked, Stardew Valley, Rocket League, none of these games have these attributes but they are all great.
The push toward Cinematic experience is narrowing what is being considered to be "great games" and it's bullshit.
 
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