Silver Wattle
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Sony had a chance during the psp era and they blew it, they didn't even fight back during the 3ds era when Nintendo was throwing cash around, Japan is Nintendo all the way now.
The problem is simply that you can't be splitting your development resources between two different HD consoles. Sony made the calculation that they needed to double down on developing for the PS4 and that if they tried to develop for the Vita or Vita 2 at the same time they'd wind up not succeeding at either. That was almost certainly the right choice.Vita is a great handheld. I fire it up a few times a month. Sony just abandoned it, though. Focused more on cinematic living room experiences. It is sad.
Considering the size of the video game market in Japan and how popular Switch is there I'm really surprised they dropped their portable platform. They did make a few mistakes with it, namely the proprietary memory cards and selective PS1 BC offerings (even though it could run pretty much all of the PS1 games Sony had available for download). But those were problems that could be fixed in the next model. Maybe they just couldn't compete.
this gen? this gen?Sony is losing the Japanese market to Nintendo and this generation it’s really a big difference.
What do you think - apart from business perspective is there a kind of “honor” (I understand it sounds silly for corporation, but it’s Japan we are talking about) to take back that market with new portable console ?
Maybe they could produce standalone VR helmet a-la Oculus Quest ( who said Virtual Boy - go away) that could also act as PSVR2 ?
I currently play Alyx on my OQ2 wirelessly and it’s already working quite good.
Even crazier idea - high resolution handheld that could be used also to stream normal games from PS5 and act as a display for VR helmet (like smartphones did).
But to get back to my original premise - I bet VR is not very popular in Japan with their tiny flats and personally I’d prefer normal handheld.
What do you think - can Sony win back Japan with new portable and will it ?
Or they will just turn to US-focused corporation for good ?
I don't know, all I played on the PSP were the God of War games, and I've played big AAA games on Switch fine. Obviously playing on a TV is better, but handheld is easier to play at work, commute, etc. I agree that small, simple games might fit better on a handheld, but some people don't want to bother with those when they can play Uncharted, God of War, Breath of the Wild. Switch battery life is good enough for a few hours of AAA games, so I don't think that is too much of an issue with something slightly more powerful.People think it's great but handheld/mobile gaming appetite is different than console.
- No one wants to sit there playing big AAA games on a tiny ass screen when they could play it on the TV.
- you are not getting PS4 graphics on a handheld.
- IF you could get those graphics and convince people that they wanted to play big games on a small screen... They would still be tethered to the nearest plug because the battery life would last 20 minutes. (So why not just play on the TV)
Sony came out with the PSP and Vita that were vastly more powerful and large games and the DS with its small, short burst games spanked the senseless shit out of them.
All a Playstation portable would have to do is play all PS4 games, and come with the PS Plus collection that PS5 gets. It could be all digital with a 1080p screen. At under $300, it would sell like hotcakes.
Sheesh, come on. The PSP has an awesome library, same with DS. Both were fantastic handhelds.I mean, Sony has failed twice due to lack of good games, but I don’t mind another one so Nintendo can spank their ass 3rd time for a hat trick.
At $300 price tag that is pretty much impossible, maybe in 2023/2024 but not now.All a Playstation portable would have to do is play all PS4 games, and come with the PS Plus collection that PS5 gets. It could be all digital with a 1080p screen. At under $300, it would sell like hotcakes.
Sony had a chance during the psp era and they blew it, they didn't even fight back during the 3ds era when Nintendo was throwing cash around, Japan is Nintendo all the way now.
All a Playstation portable would have to do is play all PS4 games, and come with the PS Plus collection that PS5 gets. It could be all digital with a 1080p screen. At under $300, it would sell like hotcakes.
The tech for a PS4 portable will be ready in a few short years if it isn't already, and how can you still harp on about big games not working on handheld while the switch is disproving you every single day.People think it's great but handheld/mobile gaming appetite is different than console.
- No one wants to sit there playing big AAA games on a tiny ass screen when they could play it on the TV.
- you are not getting PS4 graphics on a handheld.
- IF you could get those graphics and convince people that they wanted to play big games on a small screen... They would still be tethered to the nearest plug because the battery life would last 20 minutes. (So why not just play on the TV)
Sony came out with the PSP and Vita that were vastly more powerful and large games and the DS with its small, short burst games spanked the senseless shit out of them.
What does any of this even mean?Comiefornia doesn’t care any more. It’s all about cinematic experiences
And there is no technology that makes all this possible today. Especially under $300. No way unfortunately.All a Playstation portable would have to do is play all PS4 games, and come with the PS Plus collection that PS5 gets. It could be all digital with a 1080p screen. At under $300, it would sell like hotcakes.
Sony wouldn't let the battery be interchangeable after that was the method people used to hack the PSP to hell and back. and its doesn't even need an SSD just standard memory cards and there you go.PS4GO
PS4 library, 200GB SSD, 1080p OLED screen, Digital Library transfers, discs dont, supports vita games(but not advertised), no HDMI(USB-C display out), interchangeable 5 hour battery.
SSD, or no go for me.Sony wouldn't let the battery be interchangeable after that was the method people used to hack the PSP to hell and back. and its doesn't even need an SSD just standard memory cards and there you go.
so,you are concerned about sony losing the japanese market and you response is buying a series x because some day microsoft may buy sega? LOLYup.
It feels like Sony really has "turned it's back" on the Japanese market...
I mean, they even lost a Disgaea port for PS5, lol. Is there a single Japanese PS5 game in developement right now past FFXVI, Agatha and that Capcom game?
Can't name many huh? Good job Sony.....
Thankfully, I bought a SerX because once MS buys (merges, I know) SEGA they wi control Atlus as well..
NIS/Idea Factory/Falcom? Anyone? PS5? 4k, next gen?
The main problem with the Vita is that they tried to make it a portable PS3/4 rather than playing to the handheld’s strengths. That and the “big budget” titles like Uncharted turned out to be a poor imitation. 3DS gives you a different experience than the console, which I believe is what gamer’s want for the most part.
That said, direct ports of console games have done well on 3DS...like Xenoblade.
this is one of the most stupid post i have read here this 2021Comiefornia doesn’t care any more. It’s all about cinematic experiences
The problem with the PSP is that hardware sales weren't backed upp with software sales.PSP sold over 80 million consoles. That was a success regardless of how many the DS sold.
It also needs to be profitable. The PSP clearly was, while the Vita apparently was not.I agree, tell that to Sony!
No it's not and there is no battery life that would make it a reality.The tech for a PS4 portable will be ready in a few short years if it isn't already, and how can you still harp on about big games not working on handheld while the switch is disproving you every single day.
All a Playstation portable would have to do is play all PS4 games, and come with the PS Plus collection that PS5 gets. It could be all digital with a 1080p screen. At under $300, it would sell like hotcakes.
Because Sony killed the Vita.
I had a PSP an an NDS and I played more on the PSP than the DS, because the system was that good. Sure, the DS had dual screens, but PSP had analog stick (which I think is better for 3D games).
Damn... I miss that handheld. =/
Its a tablet with an hdmi out.No it's not and there is no battery life that would make it a reality.
Ready for your mind to be blown? The switch is also a console!
Yeah hotcakes don't sell like they used to, low carb craze and all that.Only if hotcakes sell like shit.
Another PS portable will fail like all the other PS portables before it.
Leave portables to Nintendo.
Let sleeping dogs lie and all that jazz.
Sony wouldn't let the battery be interchangeable after that was the method people used to hack the PSP to hell and back. and its doesn't even need an SSD just standard memory cards and there you go.
Yeah the portable Market is owned by Nintendo and the traditional home console market owned by Sony. Neither can or will be beaten.What is ironic is that Sony had the good portable console aka PSP and then not-so-good Vita. It had potential. It seems in a lot of areas Sony starts first - it is able to read the trends - but then pulls the plug.
I believe handheld market cannot be conquered by anybody anymore - Nintendo is too far ahead. To fight that you need sizeable investments as Nintendo entered that market basically without competition. You will need tons of content, exclusive games etc. Mobiles will win in the end though.
So it'll have thumbsticks that will make the phone more cumbersome and will be limited by the phone size that could be an issue for the handheld.Sony could retake the handheld market and the Cellphone in one product, like the Xperia Play years ago. (But obviously with new technology, proper thumbsticks etc)
Atelyer Rysa 2 is coming out this month for PS5 as well. Seems like you enjoy japanese games, and you bought the only console that strugles to have any japanese games. Good job.
so,you are concerned about sony losing the japanese market and you response is buying a series x because some day microsoft may buy sega? LOL
you know i have read that same argument from nintendo fanboys since the psp days,yes...from the same ones who are asking every port possible on the switch,thats bullshit,they used that argument because nintend portables were way weaker than home consoles,but at the moment the portables got some power they were asking port of big bugdet games even on 3ds
OP i have a crazy idea,its very crazy,gaming its a bussiness and they do numbers,if the numbers wont help thats it