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NeoGAF Ban Review/Justice Project

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Piku_Ringo

Banned
I can't believe @BluRayHiDef actually tried to make an alt, like he hasn't embarrassed himself enough already. Even without his IP we would've been able to spot him a mile away. I don't get why so many banned people try to make alts, are they that desperate? Have some dignity and just move on ffs.
They are addicted to that GAF Gold Membership.
 

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Multiple alt attempts along with demands and lectures emailed to support. Really, though, could we expect anything else?
I mean, being honest, i have only come back because of such mails.

What helped, i suppose, is that i never considered an alt. BluRay obviously could not withstand that option.

Thanks by the way for letting me return .
They are addicted to that GAF Gold Membership.
GAF Gold is dat subtle enhancement, like backlight to your wristwatch. Without it, life becomes dull, and you will start to think your opinion matters.

Not with GAF Gold. Not only does your opinion not matter, no - its an opinion made of gold. It teabags other opinions and tells them to go simp for it, the golden opinion.
 

Piku_Ringo

Banned
I mean, being honest, i have only come back because of such mails.

What helped, i suppose, is that i never considered an alt. BluRay obviously could not withstand that option.

Thanks by the way for letting me return .

GAF Gold is dat subtle enhancement, like backlight to your wristwatch. Without it, life becomes dull, and you will start to think your opinion matters.

Not with GAF Gold. Not only does your opinion not matter, no - its an opinion made of gold. It teabags other opinions and tells them to go simp for it, the golden opinion.
I honestly don't even know who the hell you are, but I likes yah already for making me laugh so hard!!!

Welcome back, bro.:messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_ok:
 

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Redneckerz Redneckerz you're giving yourself far too little credit by comparing your emails to BluRay's.
I know it is worthy of an Oscar, but i treated everyone far too kindly in them. What i should have done is ask Bluray how he made them and not do that instead.

(Im joking. Thank you.)
I honestly don't even know who the hell you are, but I likes yah already for making me laugh so hard!!!

Welcome back, bro.:messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_ok:
Thank you citizen.

Sincerely,
The Hell
 

Komatsu

Member

Jethalal

Banned
Multiple alt attempts along with demands and lectures emailed to support. Really, though, could we expect anything else?
Even on twitter I believe, during the server outage I checked your account and the Neogaf term on twitter and I found his tweet where he was basically shouting in the void.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Mods... what’s the reason for my ban from replying in the coronavirus OT thread please?

(stop laughing you lot at the back)

Been through my posts and can’t see anything I’ve written that deserves it?

Fine if there’s a reason for it, but just wanted to check in case it’s an error 👍 Can you let me know?

Edit: is it the mention of politics? Only I was only replying to another poster’s comment about it, and then I shut up about it and went on to talk about vaccine figures 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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nush

Gold Member
but just wanted to check in case it’s an error
Brady Bunch K GIF
 

Bill O'Rights

Seldom posts. Always delivers.
Staff Member
Mods... what’s the reason for my ban from replying in the coronavirus OT thread please?

(stop laughing you lot at the back)

Been through my posts and can’t see anything I’ve written that deserves it?

Fine if there’s a reason for it, but just wanted to check in case it’s an error 👍 Can you let me know?

Edit: is it the mention of politics? Only I was only replying to another poster’s comment about it, and then I shut up about it and went on to talk about vaccine figures 🤷🏻‍♂️


A number of posters have been removed in recent days for basically the reason you alluded to. There are numeruos threads that are consistently derailed around the administration that really don't need to be. So take a few days and we can revisit lifting reply bans after that. And yes, this has applied to posters you were engaging with also, and some you weren't.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
A number of posters have been removed in recent days for basically the reason you alluded to. There are numeruos threads that are consistently derailed around the administration that really don't need to be. So take a few days and we can revisit lifting reply bans after that. And yes, this has applied to posters you were engaging with also, and some you weren't.

Cool. Thanks very much.

Thumb Up Ok GIF by PlayStation
 

Jethalal

Banned
Even on twitter I believe, during the server outage I checked your account and the Neogaf term on twitter and I found his tweet where he was basically shouting in the void.
Found 'em

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Dude really was talking about eugenics and shit, thinks he has some moral high ground.

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:messenger_tears_of_joy:

(Didn't post the tweets as he has doxxed himself in those)
 

Ornlu

Banned
Who is still saying this though? I’ve heard no one make a claim like this. Can you link?

Here's a poster making a claim that would have resulted in a perm if the argument was revolving around the "stolen election":

“Indictments[edit]​

A total of thirty-four individuals and three companies were indicted by Mueller's investigators. Eight have pleaded guilty to or been convicted of felonies, including five Trump associates and campaign officials. None of those five convictions "involved a conspiracy between the campaign and Russians"[452] and "Mueller did not charge or suggest charges for [...] whether the Trump campaign worked with the Russians to influence the election".[453]The investigation was, however, more complex. On May 29, 2019, In a press conference, Mueller stated that "If we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that. We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime... A president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view – that too is prohibited."[454]

There’s more on the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017–2019)

You’re making out like there was nothing to it, like the 2020 election fraud conspiracy.

This clearly is not the case.

this was in response to this post (sorry Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert , to rope you into this dumb argument):

Stop being so disingenuous. Literally nobody got convicted because of cooperating with Russia. Müller even went as far to say that no American citizen conspired or coordinated with Russia regarding the election. He got some people on process crimes or on same tax shit they did 20 years ago. Russiagate was a total hoax.


So, yes, FunkMiller FunkMiller , there are examples of "Russia conspiracy" posts still being tolerated, while "stolen election conspiracy" posts get the ban.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Could I get some context on that? I've been away from the forum for a little while (work, life, creating OTs for upcoming games..) but I enjoyed Geki's posts.
He was basically saying prior to the recent bans the last few weeks that this place was some sort of alt-right haven. This place doesn't support political extremists of any side.
 
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TheContact

Member
Here's a poster making a claim that would have resulted in a perm if the argument was revolving around the "stolen election":


this was in response to this post (sorry Bernd Lauert Bernd Lauert , to rope you into this dumb argument):




So, yes, FunkMiller FunkMiller , there are examples of "Russia conspiracy" posts still being tolerated, while "stolen election conspiracy" posts get the ban.

no, because of this:

  • The Mueller Report states that if the Special Counsel’s Office felt they could clear the president of wrongdoing, they would have said so. Instead, the Report explicitly states that it “does not exonerate” the President[10] and explains that the Office of Special Counsel “accepted” the Department of Justice policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted.[11]
  • The Mueller report details multiple episodes in which there is evidence that the President obstructed justice. The pattern of conduct and the manner in which the President sought to impede investigations—including through one-on-one meetings with senior officials—is damning to the President.
  • Five episodes of obstructive conduct stand out as being particularly serious:
    • In June 2017 President Trump directed White House Counsel Don McGahn to order the firing of the Special Counsel after press reports that Mueller was investigating the President for obstruction of justice;[12] months later Trump asked McGahn to falsely refute press accounts reporting this directive and create a false paper record on this issue – all of which McGahn refused to do.[13]
    • After National Security Advisor Michael Flynn was fired in February 2017 for lying to FBI investigators about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, Trump cleared his office for a one-on-one meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and asked Comey to “let [Flynn] go;” he also asked then-Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland to draft an internal memo saying Trump did not direct Flynn to call Kislyak, which McFarland did not do because she did not know whether that was true.[14]
    • In July 2017, the President directed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to instruct the Attorney General to limit Mueller’s investigation, a step the Report asserted “was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”[15]
    • In 2017 and 2018, the President asked the Attorney General to “un-recuse” himself from the Mueller inquiry, actions from which a “reasonable inference” could be made that “the President believed that an unrecused Attorney General would play a protective role and could shield the President from the ongoing Russia Investigation.”[16]
    • The Report raises questions about whether the President, by and through his private attorneys, floated the possibility of pardons for the purpose of influencing the cooperation of Flynn, Manafort, and an unnamed person with law enforcement.[17]
  • https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the...resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/
russiagate was not a conspiracy theory. comparing that to the bullshit election fraud claims is disingenuous.
 

Tesseract

Banned
no, because of this:

  • The Mueller Report states that if the Special Counsel’s Office felt they could clear the president of wrongdoing, they would have said so. Instead, the Report explicitly states that it “does not exonerate” the President[10] and explains that the Office of Special Counsel “accepted” the Department of Justice policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted.[11]
  • The Mueller report details multiple episodes in which there is evidence that the President obstructed justice. The pattern of conduct and the manner in which the President sought to impede investigations—including through one-on-one meetings with senior officials—is damning to the President.
  • Five episodes of obstructive conduct stand out as being particularly serious:
    • In June 2017 President Trump directed White House Counsel Don McGahn to order the firing of the Special Counsel after press reports that Mueller was investigating the President for obstruction of justice;[12] months later Trump asked McGahn to falsely refute press accounts reporting this directive and create a false paper record on this issue – all of which McGahn refused to do.[13]
    • After National Security Advisor Michael Flynn was fired in February 2017 for lying to FBI investigators about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, Trump cleared his office for a one-on-one meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and asked Comey to “let [Flynn] go;” he also asked then-Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland to draft an internal memo saying Trump did not direct Flynn to call Kislyak, which McFarland did not do because she did not know whether that was true.[14]
    • In July 2017, the President directed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to instruct the Attorney General to limit Mueller’s investigation, a step the Report asserted “was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”[15]
    • In 2017 and 2018, the President asked the Attorney General to “un-recuse” himself from the Mueller inquiry, actions from which a “reasonable inference” could be made that “the President believed that an unrecused Attorney General would play a protective role and could shield the President from the ongoing Russia Investigation.”[16]
    • The Report raises questions about whether the President, by and through his private attorneys, floated the possibility of pardons for the purpose of influencing the cooperation of Flynn, Manafort, and an unnamed person with law enforcement.[17]
  • https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the...resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/
russiagate was not a conspiracy theory. comparing that to the bullshit election fraud claims is disingenuous.
eh, that's a whole lot of nothing

alphabet and number integrity on life support, made worse by tech and media gobbling up the narrative without hesitation
 

Ornlu

Banned
no, because of this:

  • The Mueller Report states that if the Special Counsel’s Office felt they could clear the president of wrongdoing, they would have said so. Instead, the Report explicitly states that it “does not exonerate” the President[10] and explains that the Office of Special Counsel “accepted” the Department of Justice policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted.[11]
  • The Mueller report details multiple episodes in which there is evidence that the President obstructed justice. The pattern of conduct and the manner in which the President sought to impede investigations—including through one-on-one meetings with senior officials—is damning to the President.
  • Five episodes of obstructive conduct stand out as being particularly serious:
    • In June 2017 President Trump directed White House Counsel Don McGahn to order the firing of the Special Counsel after press reports that Mueller was investigating the President for obstruction of justice;[12] months later Trump asked McGahn to falsely refute press accounts reporting this directive and create a false paper record on this issue – all of which McGahn refused to do.[13]
    • After National Security Advisor Michael Flynn was fired in February 2017 for lying to FBI investigators about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, Trump cleared his office for a one-on-one meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and asked Comey to “let [Flynn] go;” he also asked then-Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland to draft an internal memo saying Trump did not direct Flynn to call Kislyak, which McFarland did not do because she did not know whether that was true.[14]
    • In July 2017, the President directed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to instruct the Attorney General to limit Mueller’s investigation, a step the Report asserted “was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”[15]
    • In 2017 and 2018, the President asked the Attorney General to “un-recuse” himself from the Mueller inquiry, actions from which a “reasonable inference” could be made that “the President believed that an unrecused Attorney General would play a protective role and could shield the President from the ongoing Russia Investigation.”[16]
    • The Report raises questions about whether the President, by and through his private attorneys, floated the possibility of pardons for the purpose of influencing the cooperation of Flynn, Manafort, and an unnamed person with law enforcement.[17]
  • https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the...resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/
russiagate was not a conspiracy theory. comparing that to the bullshit election fraud claims is disingenuous.

A person arguing about the "stolen election" could post a long list of reasons why the election was shady as hell, as well. Yet the topic is deemed taboo, and results in a perm. "Russiagate" is not deemed taboo, and does not result in a perm. That's what is being discussed.

Either we can agree that all conspiracies warrant a perm, or none of them do. Picking and choosing based on the flavor of our politics is just choosing the ideology of the forum.
 

TheContact

Member
A person arguing about the "stolen election" could post a long list of reasons why the election was shady as hell, as well. Yet the topic is deemed taboo, and results in a perm. "Russiagate" is not deemed taboo, and does not result in a perm. That's what is being discussed.

Either we can agree that all conspiracies warrant a perm, or none of them do. Picking and choosing based on the flavor of our politics is just choosing the ideology of the forum.

russiagate isn't a conspiracy because there was a special council that came to a conclusion. the election fraud claims were thoroughly debunked across multiple states and courts and no one was arrested for coordinating some kind of attempt to change the election. the fact that you're comparing the two shows just how little you know about the mueller report--whether it's cognitive dissonance or what.
 

Tesseract

Banned
the same mueller who said he wasn't familiar with fusion gps, or the mueller who lied to befall unwarranted taps and nsa surveillance

how about the mueller who said it's difficult to identify and isolate people who've not (yet) committed crimes

don't forget the mueller who pushed tenet and powell's iraq war

mueller's testominy was dazzling and confusing but ultimately hollow just like what's left of his soul
 
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Ornlu

Banned
Election Fraud isn't a conspiracy because there was a series of court cases that never came to a conclusion. The Russiagate claims were thoroughly debunked in a multi-year unprecedented investigation and no one was arrested for coordinating some kind of attempt to change the election. the fact that you're comparing the two shows just how little you know about the mueller report--whether it's cognitive dissonance or what.

There, I did some real mild Madlibs and had you make my case for me. Thank you, TheContact TheContact . Please see your way to your local re-education center, brought to you by Amazon Cares™.

Anyway, I answered the poster who was asking for proof of Russiagate posts, which was the point. :messenger_beermugs:
 

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Move on from the political debate in this thread.
I demand a filibuster and i thus veto your point.

(Spare me. I know practically nothing about American debate practices. Something like a filibuster is unheard of here and i believe even punishable.)
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
I tend to expect better of myself too, but when someone claims something, I ask for clear evidence, and then no evidence appears, and I just get told I’m not being honest, not speaking in good faith, and am accused of dancing around a topic..... it brings out the worst in me.

ugly GIF
 
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