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Sony Predicts Over 22.6 Million PS5s Sold Per Year

How many records can Sony break before people stop acting like Microsoft has some god plan. They are still, and id bet money will always be, behind when it comes to actual consumer taste and games. Look at all the focus on backwards compatibility. All those features and effort they put in. Surprise, didn’t make the Xbox one spike in sales, won’t make the series x sell better either.

hardcore gaming forums are an echochamber. realistically, i dont expect XBOX to genuinely compete with PlayStation for marketshare for atleast another 5 years.
Not with more chip shortages on the horizon and with China and the United States squaring off over Taiwan.

My guess is somewhere between 15 and 18 for the next 2-3 years, which is still quite good.

If sony are forecasting over 22m, than they will either hit it or get very close. They dont make these projections based off nothing. They hit their ps4 projections every time.
 

Hezekiah

Banned
Yeah but Sony is still producing more than Xbox and that's due to their ability to produce more chips.

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That's a chip wafer BTW. The APUs are cut from them. The more you buy the more APUs you can produce. The smaller the APU the more you can cut from one wafer.

Naturally if Sony bought more and their APU is smaller they will be able to produce more chips than the competition. Which leads to a larger production in consoles.
There have been suggestions that Microsoft could produce more chips, but have limited capacity as they know demand for Series X and S is lower than it is for PS5.
 

On Demand

Banned
It’s honestly pretty hilarious and sad at the same time that people continue to underestimate the PlayStation brand. Same doubting comments was also said during PS4 generation. Selling 22Min a year will easily happen for PS5. So called “competition” from Xbox won’t affect PS5 sales, PS is the bigger brand. Always has been. Even the PS3, Sony’s apparent worst generation, started to outsell the 360 by 2007 once it released in Europe. Going on to sell 90M consoles by the end of the generation. All this without the first party stable brand recognition they have now. They have the fruits of that labor they built up during the PS3 generation of building first party studios and making the brand the juggernaut it is now. They executed all this with the PS4 generation and now are refining it with PS5. And people think somehow PS5 won’t sell record sales this generation? When it’s actually already doing that now? Ok. Whatever your fanboy goggles tell you I guess.

The industry isn’t a zero sum game. Xbox having so called success with gamepass doesn’t mean it’s going to affect PS5 in any way. It’s not even affecting software sales according to Mat Piscatella from NPD. Leading into the exaggerated complaints, on forums of course, about $70 games will be bad for Sony and other developers. Sony first party games for PS5 have actually been selling.

You can continue to doubt the PS brand if you want to. Just know it’s baseless and a nonsensical thing to do seeing how Sony made 3 successful consoles with 2 of them selling well over 100M. PS3, even though having the expensive $600 price and 360 dominating in the U.S. with all those 3rd party exclusive western games and Japanese games, the PS3 STILL managed to sell 90M consoles and even outsell the 360 in some markets in Europe. Let that sink in. Oh please let that sink in before you make your doom claims about PS5 generation. PlayStation has an established well renowned first party stable and the brand is even bigger than it was during the PS3 and PS4 generation. The PS5 is breaking record sales and is probably already passed 10M. I’m pretty sure Sony knows what they’re doing and the brand will be more than fine even with the “increased competition” and simple $10 extra game price. There’s a whole lot more going on than that.
 

sendit

Member
Bold claim, considering major problems with Playstation right now is their gaming price. Unless people consider it like Apple products, I doubt they can sell that number.

This isn't the same gen as last time, where your competition where tv tv tv tv. They are offering a solid software subscription, during a pandemic age, where everyone is having issues with money. While Sony does the 70$ price tag for their games.

I am not bashing Sony here. The reality is gaming is expensive right now. And not everyone is working like last gen. We are in economic crisis. People can't afford to spend 70$ easily. Especially, when their sale in 6 month is 61$ (that was demons souls sale). Unless they offer sales, or some kinda offer, they won't reach their goal. They need something like gamepass to achieve it.
I wipe my butt with 70 dollars.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
I doubt they're gonna surpass PS2. To sell PS2 numbers, the price has to be really, really low after a while. People forget how cheap the PS2 was. I know people who bought it as a DVD player.

By then it'll be already PCIe 5.0 and welcoming PCIe 6.0. It'll be old tech. Prices go by demand, PS4 is still sold at $400 in many places!
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
more PS5's sold = more games on PS5 made(more exclussives).
more exclussives = pushing gaming forward.
so why not celebrate? weird attitude you have.
I guess I just don't connect those dots.

Exclusives aren't important to me. I'm not a fanboy.

Also exclusives don't push gaming forward, competition does.
 
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Renozokii

Member
hardcore gaming forums are an echochamber. realistically, i dont expect XBOX to genuinely compete with PlayStation for marketshare for atleast another 5 years.


If sony are forecasting over 22m, than they will either hit it or get very close. They dont make these projections based off nothing. They hit their ps4 projections every time.
5 years no way. Microsoft goes third party in all but name being an app on TVs and fire sticks before they even come close to Sony’s market share.
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
hardcore gaming forums are an echochamber. realistically, i dont expect XBOX to genuinely compete with PlayStation for marketshare for atleast another 5 years.


If sony are forecasting over 22m, than they will either hit it or get very close. They dont make these projections based off nothing. They hit their ps4 projections every time.

I don't think they're boneheads or anything, I just think there are dynamics at play in the world that are, in many ways, unprecedented.

This is a case of over-optimism, which is what publicly-traded companies tend to opt for.
 

sendit

Member
I don't think they're boneheads or anything, I just think there are dynamics at play in the world that are, in many ways, unprecedented.

This is a case of over-optimism, which is what publicly-traded companies tend to opt for.

It's selling faster than the PS4.
  • COVID is still around
  • crypto can make an individual a millionaire over night
  • WTF is AMC and GME
  • chip shortages are real
  • real estate is at an all time high
etc....My point is, there are always going to be factors that come in to play. A meteor can strike the earth. An all out nuclear war could break out. In reality, who the hell actually thinks this way when making a business decision?
 
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Darius87

Member
I guess I just don't connect those dots.

Exclusives aren't important to me. I'm not a fanboy.

Also exclusives don't push gaming forward, competition does.
if there weren't any exclussive on any platform you would be right because by your logic exclussives doesn't achieve anything so no point of making exclussive games on any platform.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
if there weren't any exclussive on any platform you would be right because by your logic exclussives doesn't achieve anything so no point of making exclussive games on any platform.
I didn't say exclusives don't achieve anything. I said they don't push gaming forward. I believe gaming would move forward regardless of whether a game was exclusive or not.

Competition and passion powers innovation, exclusives are simply a by-product of that competition and a construct of the platforms.
 
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Darius87

Member
I didn't say exclusives don't achieve anything. I said they don't push gaming forward. I believe gaming would move forward regardless of whether a game was exclusive or not.

Competition powers innovation, exclusives are simply a by-product of that competition.
you said you don't connect these dots meaning my points aren't true for you which would make exclussives irrelevant.
making game using platforms specific feature set is pushing gaming forward, haptics, 3d audio, ssd, vr, etc... it's not like sony said to some dev "now you have to make game for us because we are competing".
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
hardcore gaming forums are an echochamber. realistically, i dont expect XBOX to genuinely compete with PlayStation for marketshare for atleast another 5 years.


If sony are forecasting over 22m, than they will either hit it or get very close. They dont make these projections based off nothing. They hit their ps4 projections every time.
Man please, stop with you shit nonsense. I can see Playstation trying bigger numbers this year. But there is no way xbox will take 5 years to catch them. Xbox has effectively a monopoly on western rpg right now. Do you know how many people are fan of these IPs.

Last generation, Sony won, since Xbox didn't have any compelling products. Now they have gamepass, and western rpgs.

Playstation will still dominate on the Japanese rpgs without a doubt, since Xbox has no leg on that genre. Anything else, is neck to neck.
 
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Spitfire098

Member
Man please, stop with you shit nonsense. I can see Playstation trying bigger numbers this year. But there is no way xbox will take 5 years to catch them. Xbox has effectively a monopoly on western rpg right now. Do you know how many people are fan of these IPs.

Last generation, Sony won, since Xbox didn't have any compelling products. Now they have gamepass, and western rpgs.

Playstation will still dominate on the Japanese rpgs without a doubt, since Xbox has no leg on that genre. Anything else, is neck to neck.
Man please, stop with you shit nonsense.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
Just 6+ months ago they were “anti-consooomer” when talking about Sony.

Funny, that.
the own the ip, same as how sony owns spiderman ip. There is no anti-consumerism about that. You own the IP, you do whatever you want. I am not angry at sony for not playing spiderman on pc.
 
Man please, stop with you shit nonsense. I can see Playstation trying bigger numbers this year. But there is no way xbox will take 5 years to catch them. Xbox has effectively a monopoly on western rpg right now. Do you know how many people are fan of these IPs.

Last generation, Sony won, since Xbox didn't have any compelling products. Now they have gamepass, and western rpgs.

Playstation will still dominate on the Japanese rpgs without a doubt, since Xbox has no leg on that genre. Anything else, is neck to neck.

xbox wont catch playstation up. i cant see how anyone could honestly think that in 5 years, xbox series will be anywhere near the lifetime sales of PS5. you really believe that?
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
It's selling faster than the PS4.
  • COVID is still around
  • crypto can make an individual a millionaire over night
  • WTF is AMC and GME
  • chip shortages are real
  • real estate is at an all time high
etc....My point is, there are always going to be factors that come in to play. A meteor can strike the earth. An all out nuclear war could break out. In reality, who the hell actually thinks this way when making a business decision?

Well, all of the think tanks and consultants that advise large corporations, like Rand, McKinsey & Co, and Bain, which makes the 22.6 million figure that much more surprising. Hey, if Sony wants to be bullish, that's their call....

And I'm hardly surprised that PS5 is selling well; it's a better product than the PS4 in every way, and more appealing than Series X, but the tech landscape looks pretty bumpy, especially with hyperinflation ready to dropkick the United States harder than it ever has, which leads to the domino effect around the globe.

Also, I'm not sure how COVID is being used in your post. Are you saying that was an obstacle that Sony had to overcome sales-wise? If so, I'd disagree. That only helped, given how bored consumers were. Now, if you're referring to manufacturing logistics, then, yeah, I'm in total agreement with you. Not sure what crypto has to do with this, but it's hard to envision a future where the central banks don't kill it dead in the street in lieu of their own currency.

Anyway, PS5 is great, and I think it will do quite well, but the 22.6 figure is hard for me to buy at the moment, given what I've outlined. You've made some solid points, so we'll see where things land. More than happy to walk this back if they blow things out of the water, which I hope happens, because that would largely mean some measure of global stability (and more foundries).
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
xbox wont catch playstation up. i cant see how anyone could honestly think that in 5 years, xbox series will be anywhere near the lifetime sales of PS5. you really believe that?
that is because you are overrating playstation too much. Switch just took 4 years to hit 87m hardware sale, while PlayStation with call of duty and battlefield took 8 years to hit 115m. the difference between switch and ps4 is 27m hardware's. that is against a console which doesnt have call of duty or battlefield to sell their console., and they had 4 years a headstart.

Right now xbox is playing 3 cards. XSS, a cheap entry. Xcloud for those who hate xbox consoles. Gamepass for those who cant afford to buy alot of games. They also have the pandemic, which will increase gamepass subs, and attract people to xss or save money for xsx, so they can play gamepass games.

This generation PlayStation is going hard with their 70$ game price tag. I know people will scream that extra 10$ IS NOTHING. But in reality, the real problem is the 70$. that number makes people hesitant to buy your games, or even invest on your brand this gen. No matter how popular you are, people value their money first, and wont spend on something that is very expensive. Especially, when they know there is cheaper option, on the side of the competition.

They will still sell alot of consoles. because the number of gamers right now is double of that on ps4/x1 generation. the kids who were 10 in that time, are 18 now. This will boost both console sales.

My prediction will be in 2022-2023, both of these companies will go neck to neck, with each dominating certain parts of region. Microsoft main region now will be India. With India being tech country, and Microsoft being known there as a gaint tech company, it will help them boost their sales, especially with gamepass as a frontier for their console. While Sony will target China. Microsoft doesnt have good relation there, so i doubt they can have a big pie there.

Poorer region will be Microsoft with gamepass, while eastern side is Sony land.

There was a reason why i mentioned the 70$ price tag. in australia, that price is 92.39 in their currency. Now you add the tax money on top of that money. That is how much a single ps5 game cost in Australia. "At the time of writing, most PS5 launch games are selling at prices ranging from AU$109 through to AU$125. If you managed to get a PS5 pre-order, you're probably going to need to make some wise purchasing decisions.Feb 4, 2021" That is from the internet. Now tell me, how many people will be in their ecosystem with that price tag. This is just australia. Not other countries, where the $ conversion is high. Canada, US neighbor pays 89.99 cad for a single ps5 game. those prices in USD currency without conversion is 109-125 dollar. that is 29-55 more dollar than ps5 games sold in the USA before taxes. same thing for canada, which they have 20$ increase. These 2 countries have at least a good economy. Now use those maths on other countries. How much money do you think those country will cost.

Since i am done with the 70$ price tag. Look at Gamepass fees. Gamepass cost in canada 16.99 a month. or 203.88 a year. they get to play all xbox games day1, on xbox or pc for that price. They dont have to pay 89.99 for 1 game.

Hope this helps you, why i am critical of their price increase during this time, and why i dont think they will have the market lead, with just their brand name now at this age. Nintendo and Microsoft have upped their game. We arent in 2013 anymore. We are in a time, where 3 companies have their best line up releasing this year, and next year. An absolute blood path will happen from now on. And the one who will win, is the one who can incentive their customers.
 
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yurinka

Member
Also exclusives don't push gaming forward, competition does.
Even if obviously many things affect competition, exclusives always have been the main reason to choose a console brand vs another one, becoming more important for competition than pricing or horsepower.


Do we know if the guy of the gif made a video about PS5 similar to the viral one he did with PS3?
 
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Jigsaah

Gold Member
you said you don't connect these dots meaning my points aren't true for you which would make exclussives irrelevant.
making game using platforms specific feature set is pushing gaming forward, haptics, 3d audio, ssd, vr, etc... it's not like sony said to some dev "now you have to make game for us because we are competing".
I said "I" don't connect these dots. You do. And that's fine.

Sony doesn't have to say that. The competition is innate.
 

Hezekiah

Banned
that is because you are overrating playstation too much. Switch just took 4 years to hit 87m hardware sale, while PlayStation with call of duty and battlefield took 8 years to hit 115m. the difference between switch and ps4 is 27m hardware's. that is against a console which doesnt have call of duty or battlefield to sell their console., and they had 4 years a headstart.

Right now xbox is playing 3 cards. XSS, a cheap entry. Xcloud for those who hate xbox consoles. Gamepass for those who cant afford to buy alot of games. They also have the pandemic, which will increase gamepass subs, and attract people to xss or save money for xsx, so they can play gamepass games.

This generation PlayStation is going hard with their 70$ game price tag. I know people will scream that extra 10$ IS NOTHING. But in reality, the real problem is the 70$. that number makes people hesitant to buy your games, or even invest on your brand this gen. No matter how popular you are, people value their money first, and wont spend on something that is very expensive. Especially, when they know there is cheaper option, on the side of the competition.

They will still sell alot of consoles. because the number of gamers right now is double of that on ps4/x1 generation. the kids who were 10 in that time, are 18 now. This will boost both console sales.

My prediction will be in 2022-2023, both of these companies will go neck to neck, with each dominating certain parts of region. Microsoft main region now will be India. With India being tech country, and Microsoft being known there as a gaint tech company, it will help them boost their sales, especially with gamepass as a frontier for their console. While Sony will target China. Microsoft doesnt have good relation there, so i doubt they can have a big pie there.

Poorer region will be Microsoft with gamepass, while eastern side is Sony land.

There was a reason why i mentioned the 70$ price tag. in australia, that price is 92.39 in their currency. Now you add the tax money on top of that money. That is how much a single ps5 game cost in Australia. "At the time of writing, most PS5 launch games are selling at prices ranging from AU$109 through to AU$125. If you managed to get a PS5 pre-order, you're probably going to need to make some wise purchasing decisions.Feb 4, 2021" That is from the internet. Now tell me, how many people will be in their ecosystem with that price tag. This is just australia. Not other countries, where the $ conversion is high. Canada, US neighbor pays 89.99 cad for a single ps5 game. those prices in USD currency without conversion is 109-125 dollar. that is 29-55 more dollar than ps5 games sold in the USA before taxes. same thing for canada, which they have 20$ increase. These 2 countries have at least a good economy. Now use those maths on other countries. How much money do you think those country will cost.

Since i am done with the 70$ price tag. Look at Gamepass fees. Gamepass cost in canada 16.99 a month. or 203.88 a year. they get to play all xbox games day1, on xbox or pc for that price. They dont have to pay 89.99 for 1 game.

Hope this helps you, why i am critical of their price increase during this time, and why i dont think they will have the market lead, with just their brand name now at this age. Nintendo and Microsoft have upped their game. We arent in 2013 anymore. We are in a time, where 3 companies have their best line up releasing this year, and next year. An absolute blood path will happen from now on. And the one who will win, is the one who can incentive their customers.
Overrating the second-best selling console of all-time 🤭.



P.S. have you considered getting a second job? You sound broke lol.
 

Fafalada

Fafracer forever
I doubt they're gonna surpass PS2. To sell PS2 numbers, the price has to be really, really low after a while. People forget how cheap the PS2 was. I know people who bought it as a DVD player.
To be fair - the new consoles have a potential advantage here - thanks to SSD scale much better with price than their HDD precursors have in last 2 decades, and Discless SKU has the potential to scale lower still.

Of course - platform holder must actually be willing to lower the price too, which is no guarantee after last gen.
 
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GhostOfTsu

Banned
that is because you are overrating playstation too much. Switch just took 4 years to hit 87m hardware sale, while PlayStation with call of duty and battlefield took 8 years to hit 115m. the difference between switch and ps4 is 27m hardware's. that is against a console which doesnt have call of duty or battlefield to sell their console., and they had 4 years a headstart.

Right now xbox is playing 3 cards. XSS, a cheap entry. Xcloud for those who hate xbox consoles. Gamepass for those who cant afford to buy alot of games. They also have the pandemic, which will increase gamepass subs, and attract people to xss or save money for xsx, so they can play gamepass games.

This generation PlayStation is going hard with their 70$ game price tag. I know people will scream that extra 10$ IS NOTHING. But in reality, the real problem is the 70$. that number makes people hesitant to buy your games, or even invest on your brand this gen. No matter how popular you are, people value their money first, and wont spend on something that is very expensive. Especially, when they know there is cheaper option, on the side of the competition.

They will still sell alot of consoles. because the number of gamers right now is double of that on ps4/x1 generation. the kids who were 10 in that time, are 18 now. This will boost both console sales.

My prediction will be in 2022-2023, both of these companies will go neck to neck, with each dominating certain parts of region. Microsoft main region now will be India. With India being tech country, and Microsoft being known there as a gaint tech company, it will help them boost their sales, especially with gamepass as a frontier for their console. While Sony will target China. Microsoft doesnt have good relation there, so i doubt they can have a big pie there.

Poorer region will be Microsoft with gamepass, while eastern side is Sony land.

There was a reason why i mentioned the 70$ price tag. in australia, that price is 92.39 in their currency. Now you add the tax money on top of that money. That is how much a single ps5 game cost in Australia. "At the time of writing, most PS5 launch games are selling at prices ranging from AU$109 through to AU$125. If you managed to get a PS5 pre-order, you're probably going to need to make some wise purchasing decisions.Feb 4, 2021" That is from the internet. Now tell me, how many people will be in their ecosystem with that price tag. This is just australia. Not other countries, where the $ conversion is high. Canada, US neighbor pays 89.99 cad for a single ps5 game. those prices in USD currency without conversion is 109-125 dollar. that is 29-55 more dollar than ps5 games sold in the USA before taxes. same thing for canada, which they have 20$ increase. These 2 countries have at least a good economy. Now use those maths on other countries. How much money do you think those country will cost.

Since i am done with the 70$ price tag. Look at Gamepass fees. Gamepass cost in canada 16.99 a month. or 203.88 a year. they get to play all xbox games day1, on xbox or pc for that price. They dont have to pay 89.99 for 1 game.

Hope this helps you, why i am critical of their price increase during this time, and why i dont think they will have the market lead, with just their brand name now at this age. Nintendo and Microsoft have upped their game. We arent in 2013 anymore. We are in a time, where 3 companies have their best line up releasing this year, and next year. An absolute blood path will happen from now on. And the one who will win, is the one who can incentive their customers.
How did you change your username? I recognize those wall of texts stanning for GP and MS non stop while shitting on Sony.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
I didn't say exclusives don't achieve anything. I said they don't push gaming forward. I believe gaming would move forward regardless of whether a game was exclusive or not.

Competition and passion powers innovation, exclusives are simply a by-product of that competition and a construct of the platforms.

I think it's easier to acknowledge that you made an uneducated post instead of making even more of them. And wtf is competition, passion, and innovation? Do you mean Sony releasing all their exclusives on Xbox and Nintendo and vice versa? What are even trying to say with all the contradictions happening there?

Here is a simple example: Starfield and FH5 not releasing on PS5 makes xbox has something new to offer. You see? How about Nintendo releasing their games on PS5 and XSX with extremely better graphics and performance? You know competition, passion, innovation, human rights, think of the children, etc.

I have a job in IT department. thx for your consideration. Early birds will scream how they win always.

Mate, your brother has a PS5, you can share games with him. You see? Easy problem to overcome. $70 becomes $35. I have an older brother and we actually don't share games as I'm all digital and most of his discs are games I've already bought or willing to so I don't borrow them.
 
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Unknown?

Member
Even if obviously many things affect competition, exclusives always have been the main reason to choose a console brand vs another one, becoming more important for competition than pricing or horsepower.



Do we know if the guy of the gif made a video about PS5 similar to the viral one he did with PS3?
Nah he retired. Hasn't done anything since.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
How did you change your username? I recognize those wall of texts stanning for GP and MS non stop while shitting on Sony.
Thnx to gamepass, I bought all ps4 exclusive, since it saved me money from buying xbox games. I ain't no fanboy who shit on 1 thing. I own both systems. Without gamepass, I wouldn't have bothered with either console, and just stick to pc and switch.
 
Thnx to gamepass, I bought all ps4 exclusive, since it saved me money from buying xbox games. I ain't no fanboy who shit on 1 thing. I own both systems. Without gamepass, I wouldn't have bothered with either console, and just stick to pc and switch.
That's all you've been doing. Owning both systems doesn't mean you can't be a fanboy.

Your old name suited you better, btw.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
I think it's easier to acknowledge that you made an uneducated post instead of making even more of them. And wtf is competition, passion, and innovation? Do you mean Sony releasing all their exclusives on Xbox and Nintendo and vice versa? What are even trying to say with all the contradictions happening there?

Here is a simple example: Starfield and FH5 not releasing on PS5 makes xbox has something new to offer. You see? How about Nintendo releasing their games on PS5 and XSX with extremely better graphics and performance? You know competition, passion, innovation, human rights, think of the children, etc.



Mate, your brother has a PS5, you can share games with him. You see? Easy problem to overcome. $70 becomes $35. I have an older brother and we actually don't share games as I'm all digital and most of his discs are games I've already bought or willing to so I don't borrow them.
I cant use his ps5. I respect his boundaries. I dont want to invade his boundaries.

Plus I have 0 desires on both new gen now. Gamepass is enough for me from Xbox. And ps4 is enough for me now. I have 9 more ps4 exclusives I need to play, before I care about ps5 games. I have no interest in current Xbox games, or their past. Main reason for gamepass, is 3rd party games, or new western rpgs that is coming in 2022, and current bethesda games, which are on gamepass.

Now way in hell I am gonna pay 70$ for any game. 3rd party or 1st party. 70$ at once is just too much. I only coughed spending that much on cyberpunk2077 for stadia (they had free controller with it, and I paid 50$). Ghost of Tsushima 40$ on sale. Anything else was 30$ or lower.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
Main reason for gamepass, is 3rd party games, or new western rpgs that is coming in 2022, and current bethesda games, which are on gamepass.

You mean you'll pay $360-240 ($180-120 per year) worth of subscription for very few 3rd third party games hitting GP and to play Starfield in 2 years? You know that this makes your whole post a joke? You know that 99% of the big third party games aren't on GP?

Anyway, you can enjoy this lunacy, and we really don't care much about you not buying any game at $70 nor spending on GP. I think what's happening here is that you and your brother console war at home and he keeps laughing at you and you come here to vent. Try to be brothers if you're really serious about games being expensive, because GP isn't fucking free. Maybe try some F2P games that MS has now finally left the paywall.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
That's all you've been doing. Owning both systems doesn't mean you can't be a fanboy.

Your old name suited you better, btw.
I am sorry, if my rant is like fanboys. I hate those people. Its why I can't enjoy watching videos about both of these consoles on YouTube. Everyone screams about their amazing features their console is cooking or how their console is great. I just hate those type of boot licking people. Those companies don't even crap about you guys. Same as how Microsoft doesn't care about caring about gamepass.

Gamepass just holds important spot in my heart. It allowed me to have ps4 games, and Xbox games. I didn't had to invest in to 1 console.

Funny story, I bought x1s, because I sold a gatcha game account I used to play on my phone. I wanted to get switch, but that thing was hard to get, even after going all gamestop in my area. After that I ordered x1s. I let my other 7 year old brother play on it for his minecraft and roblox. I saved money for gaming pc, and played gamepass on pc. I only started playing both x1s this March. On April, my brother got his ps5. So he gave me, the ps4 which I bought for him. And because I didn't need to buy xbox games, I used those money for PlayStation games. And now, I enjoy ps4 games more than xbox games. Main reason is because I am not fan of their shooter. And I love need for speed more than forza. And Sony games reminds me old games which I used to play on my OG xbox and old pc long time ago. And they have spiderman and God of war, my 2 absolutely best franchise which I love badly, after batman and splinter cell series.
 
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