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Just played Forza Horizon 4 maxed out at 4k on a 3080
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Hobbygaming
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It's something about the car shaders and lighting in Driveclub that hasn't been replicated
Turk1993
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fair enough, but a little tip. Most models from Driveclub and Forza comes from the same 3d studio, its just the devs add the little details like the lights and other interior details. So saying that Driveclubs models are way above is funny when both devs outsourced from the same 3d studio
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PleaseDontBanMe
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i only focus on games that exist
Hawking Radiation
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Driveclub is great for a 6 year old arcadish base PS4 title, but I'm more of an Assetto Corsa fan
Holy Shit...
I mean...HOLY SHIT
Bernd Lauert
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Its the same every time, little gif with rain. Than you play the game on a decent 4K screen and you see how it really looks. And there are people claiming it looks better than even Forza Horizon 5 lol. im gonna save some people time
this is how it looks when its not raining and 80% of the screen doesn't get cover with water
lol
Driveclub is basically post processing: the game. Reminds me of people calling Ratchet & Clank 2016 better than Pixar. Do people actually have eyes lmao
Arnas
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Driveclub is great for a 6 year old arcadish base PS4 title, but I'm more of an Assetto Corsa fan
If you look for "bad faith" on Wikipedia, you find this picture. No wonder this came from people who have never played the game.
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I'm on the phone so my post can't be very articulate.
Driveclub have undoubtedly two flaws: little to no SSAO and the worst TAA ever.
The lack of OA makes the environment really flat in some situation were the scene is in full light. With no AO and shadows because the sun fall down vertically, pictures are always really bad, this is mitigated by shadows and other effects in other moments.
TAA is the worst temporal AA ever since it only works when the scene is moving. No movement, no AA. You can notice this at the beginning of every race, no AA before the race start.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
It's got to be that, which explains why I didnt know as I've never used photo mode
My bad.
Driveclub graphics are too inconsistent to be considered the best. It looks great at rainy or low light conditions, but in a sunny day look flat, especially when the sun is behind the camera and shadows are behind the car and objects. The combination of no ambient occlusion to give some depth and rough AA in clear weather make it looks bad.
Even if it had a patch on PS4 pro it won't look good in a sunny day without adding some effects like AO at least.
Forza horizon 4 also has some average looking moments but it is open world, so it is much easier to find bad pics, it is nicer overall.
Even if it had a patch on PS4 pro it won't look good in a sunny day without adding some effects like AO at least.
Forza horizon 4 also has some average looking moments but it is open world, so it is much easier to find bad pics, it is nicer overall.
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Silent Viper
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Horizon 5 got best environments for any racing game now and cars also look crazy detailed and its cross gen game
Silent Viper
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Yeah ok 12 on single track at 30fps. Lol.Driveclub has had over 10 million players.
It was definitely more popular than people think. There was a PSPLUS version.
Driveclub is the Most-Played PS4 Driving Title with Estimated 10.5 Million Players
Some good news for fans of the PlayStation 4's first exclusive driving game. According to player trophy information, 2014's Driveclub has the largest number of players in the genre, at a staggering 10.5 million. The numbers come, once again, from the Gamstat trophy tracking page. We reported on twww.gtplanet.net
Driveclub had up to 12 players online and single player dude.
Oh its popular? That's why Sony killed it along with the studios?
And do you know majority of evolution people joined PG to work on Forza as they know PG is the racing studio out there
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Silent Viper
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Only under certain weather conditions it does look better than Forza 3 and 4 but its doing such bare minimum as racing game then its not surprising.
Forza 3 and 4 were made for Xbox one from ground up and its open world, so not every area looks stellar. Some compromises are made when making open world game.
Forza 5 however is different beast and destroys every racing game in graphics.
TrebleShot
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FH4 Is definitely better in terms of fun and engagement, graphically its nothing special.
I was surprised on the series X there wasn't more WOW factor. Quite alot of low poly, blurry textures and the lighting is pretty flat.
There are some nice moments in the showcase races though. As for DC I have a soft spot for it, the graphics were certainly impressive back in the day but I mostly liked the moment to moment challenges and leaderboards.
I was surprised on the series X there wasn't more WOW factor. Quite alot of low poly, blurry textures and the lighting is pretty flat.
There are some nice moments in the showcase races though. As for DC I have a soft spot for it, the graphics were certainly impressive back in the day but I mostly liked the moment to moment challenges and leaderboards.
mancstheps5fanboy
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hoping full release gt7 looks , least as good.
mansoor1980
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mancstheps5fanboy
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listen , if birds ain't taking shit on car screen , dirt being spun up , clouds of smoke , at 120hz , smooth as fuck with all the action of bird shit , i am gonna be an unhappy ps5 fanboy!
that look on his face has me worried...
that look on his face has me worried...
Whitecrow
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Driveclub is not to blame for your vision issues. Actually DC is one of the best 30fps racers ever.
DC had some sacriffices in asset quality but illumination and lighting makes up for it and makes it one of the more beautiful games out there still to this year.
MrFunSocks
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It’s not a Series X game, it’s an Xbox one game, and an open world game at that.
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Calverz
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You are smoking crack. I bought and played some driveclub for first time about two months ago based on reccomendations in this forum. The game doesn’t look that good anymore. Maybe in 2014 or whatever but say it’s better looking than fh4 is crazy.
Hitchyhero
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Not tried the PC version but I've never had stutter playing the game on XSX
John Wick
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Stop spouting hyperbole. A generation behind lmfao.
Forza Horizon has been iterated and improved every release. Driveclub would be far better if the case was the same.
Mr.ODST
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Driveclub is wank, outside of your usual "THIS LOOKS AMAZING" but its always rainy screens taken inside or just outside the car, the game is shit
Whitecrow
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Your taste is worse for sure
Mr.ODST
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Why because its the truth, the rain physics etc are great and it does look good under that condition but the rest of the game was wank
Whitecrow
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I dont deny that the game looks better on heavy weather than on normal daylight.
But saying that the game is trash is hyperbolic as hell. Ok, you dont like it, it's fine, but ther's a lot of people who loves it.
Shmunter
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Well all be dead and people will still reminisce about it. That’s no coincidence. Possibly the most lauded racer ever?!?
Mr.ODST
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Gameplay was trash, systems never worked, even after launch and the team got killed off by Sony quick.
Whitecrow
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I think so. And deserved. It did a lot of things that no racer did before and broke with the stagnation the genre was suffering.
It certainly was ahead of what "some minds" are capable to appreciate.
Shame that the network code was butchered and never worked. It could have been a massive hit.
Umbasaborne
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Lol, it looks great in extreme weather but thats about all it has going. I know, playstation exclusive goggles make it tough to see how it actually looks when its not raining, but come on...even gt sport was a better looking game. Its no where even close to the quality of sport, forza 7, or horizon 4.
its also important to remember the circumstances in which drive club released under. It had crazy good looking weather, something that at the time, forza and gt were lacking. Also before it came out, the ps4 hadn’t yet had its own big exclusive racing game. Xbox had forza 5 and horizon 2. So alot of the fervor around dc was based on this sense of pride within the playstation community. This was finally to be THEIR big ps4 only racing game, a game they could hold over the heads of other people/games in the same genre. And to be fair, it did look pretty good in 2014, and the weather still holds up well. But taken as a whole, its been since out gunned by both gran turismo
And forza. I think saying it looks better than an amazing looking racing game that released 3 years later is disingenuous at best. Cherry picking photo mode screenshots where the weather effects are going and the lighting is in a nice spot does not reflect the game over all.
but, that being said. I dont hate drive club. I played it for over a hundred hours. Its an awesome racing game. But lets be serious, it looks like a game from 7 years ago
its also important to remember the circumstances in which drive club released under. It had crazy good looking weather, something that at the time, forza and gt were lacking. Also before it came out, the ps4 hadn’t yet had its own big exclusive racing game. Xbox had forza 5 and horizon 2. So alot of the fervor around dc was based on this sense of pride within the playstation community. This was finally to be THEIR big ps4 only racing game, a game they could hold over the heads of other people/games in the same genre. And to be fair, it did look pretty good in 2014, and the weather still holds up well. But taken as a whole, its been since out gunned by both gran turismo
And forza. I think saying it looks better than an amazing looking racing game that released 3 years later is disingenuous at best. Cherry picking photo mode screenshots where the weather effects are going and the lighting is in a nice spot does not reflect the game over all.
but, that being said. I dont hate drive club. I played it for over a hundred hours. Its an awesome racing game. But lets be serious, it looks like a game from 7 years ago
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nemiroff
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Driveclub reminds me of the projector shadow puzzles in RE7; It's a soup of ugly pixels until you align it perfectly and then it kinda looks like something. To be fair though, for its time the game really did have a lot of nice environment styles and lighting. But the comparison is more on the funny side than serious when comparing it to a modern massive open world 4K 60Hz racer.
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Rikkori
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BigLee74
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Ah, the good old ‘If my Auntie had balls she’d be my Uncle’ argument.
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[Sigma]
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Lie, lie and more lies in red.
Mr.ODST
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Let me check that response for you .... oh yeah typical sony fanboy.
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Mr.ODST
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Kind of funny you say "Bias and Lies" but there is none in my post, just cant take of your PS tinted bellend glasses
I spoke the facts. You told lies and brought the bias.
[Sigma]
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Yes you did, told lies in your second and third points in red. Which told everything I needed to know about your first point. You told on yourself.
In my experience forza horizon always looks a lot better in tiny pictures than being played on a 4k set. I maxed out the game at 4k and it looks kinda fake to me, the lighting is a bit flat, models are low poly and weird looking, the image quality is dated and sky would look better with volumetrics. Thats why im kinda wary of horizon 5, it looks good on my phone but when i look at the 4k video on my oled the flaws become apparent.