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Microsoft paid 100 million USD for Tomb Raider timed exclusivity
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CuteFaceJay
Member
MS got silly money to just give away.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yeah, I mean Xbox = MS. But it's still only one department of many and so has a limited budget.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
They had a case for it. They wanted to counter Uncharted, and they didn't have any big game in 2015 so they got Tomb Raider. Though Sony delayed Uncharted 4 to 2016 (lol), and TR didn't work well for Xbox either.
The idea was right by Xbox. For one reason or another, it just didn't work out for them.
SkylineRKR
Member
Its a waste on so many levels. Its a direct sequel to a multiplatform game, and one that was shown to be in development for said consoles for quite some time. Its not a GaaS like game you can keep on selling content for. Gamers bought Rise, turned out there weren't that many, and that was that. Game came to PS4 and not many gave a fuck about this game anymore.
This was probably the most useless exclusivity deal ever.
This was probably the most useless exclusivity deal ever.
Caio
Member
A total waste of money, which could easy go to 1st party Studios to make better games, no further worlds.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Seems reasonable. That’s right around the amount to cover the loss of 2 million copies of the game.
LordPezix
Member
Did something happen in Shadow? I'm currently making my way through rise.
Got no issues with female protags but I hope Shadow didn't turn into some virtue signaling garbage.
LeftThumbstick
Member
This is pennies to them, anyone getting their panties in a twist over this is a moron.
ZywyPL
Banned
Who would make the game tho? They had like 5-6 studios during XB1 gen, all tied up to certain IPs, their only chance for wide portfolio was 3rd party games, like Sunset Overdrive, Titanfall, Quantum Break, Tomb Raider etc.
Gameplaylover
Member
That makes sense, i guess the TR deal was something similar.
BootsLoader
Banned
At least ff16 is a bigger franchise that will pay of. Like ffvii. Don’t compare those to tomb raider
Kerotan
Member
It's hard to know.
By the time rise launched on PlayStation it was the complete edition and for €40. Not even full price. While sales destroyed xbox they were far lower then they would have been had it launched full price on ps4 day 1. So hard to know. It also pissed off most fans who were on PlayStation.
Kamina
Golden Boy
Tomb Raider is a a feminist game? Would they not want to censor Lara’s fine ass in tight pants?
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
MS started the trend of Timed Exclusivity. Before MS entered console gaming that term was unheard-of. This isn't a practice of theirs alone of course, but they certainly tried to bully their way in, fast and strong with a mallett made of cash. Back when the PS3 had a rocky start of that generation, not the least of problems for Sony was the raging media format war between the Blu-ray camp and the HD-DVD camp.
HD-DVD was the inferior tech, not many major movie studios were on its side. MS had no business backing Toshiba and HD-DVD other than stall and prolong the war, amidst persisting Blu-ray diode shortages that caused serious loses to the likes of Sony, primarily. MS shamelessly monyhatted several movie studios to buy their allegiance to HD-DVD for "a limited time". I"m not making this up. MS paid hundreds of Million dollars, you can Google it, over 300 million total if I remember correctly, to some major Movie Studios so they would only release their movies on HD-DVD for a limited period of time (1 year?, need to check that up). This was back in 2007. MS plays dirty, Sony eventually took a page out their playbook and did the same to them with the PS4 (and PS5).
MS major time-limited moneyhats include an everlasting deal with Activision throughout the 360 generation for "COD DLC first on Xbox" plus exclusive marketing and advertising for all COD titles. Paying $50 million for GTA4 DLC to keep it from Playstation for one year. People here in disbelief of that 100 million paycheck for Tomb Raider, they paid $50 mil for timed-exclusivity for two DLCs back in 2008.
HD-DVD was the inferior tech, not many major movie studios were on its side. MS had no business backing Toshiba and HD-DVD other than stall and prolong the war, amidst persisting Blu-ray diode shortages that caused serious loses to the likes of Sony, primarily. MS shamelessly monyhatted several movie studios to buy their allegiance to HD-DVD for "a limited time". I"m not making this up. MS paid hundreds of Million dollars, you can Google it, over 300 million total if I remember correctly, to some major Movie Studios so they would only release their movies on HD-DVD for a limited period of time (1 year?, need to check that up). This was back in 2007. MS plays dirty, Sony eventually took a page out their playbook and did the same to them with the PS4 (and PS5).
MS major time-limited moneyhats include an everlasting deal with Activision throughout the 360 generation for "COD DLC first on Xbox" plus exclusive marketing and advertising for all COD titles. Paying $50 million for GTA4 DLC to keep it from Playstation for one year. People here in disbelief of that 100 million paycheck for Tomb Raider, they paid $50 mil for timed-exclusivity for two DLCs back in 2008.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why do people keep saying this? it's never good to just lose $100 million for any company. I don't care if it's MS, Apple, Google, or Amazon.
YeulEmeralda
Member
I don't have all the data but I just find it very unlikely that someone is going to choose a console over a single timed exclusive game. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I still think you guys are just inferring something the sentence doesn't mean (albeit poorly worded.)
He's saying he negotiated $100 million in deals, which includes the TR / Xbox deal.
IMO
He's saying he negotiated $100 million in deals, which includes the TR / Xbox deal.
IMO
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
It's not open for interpretation. It explicitly says the deal was for Tomb Raider. You just need to read it, you don't have to take it on faith, and it's not a matter of opinion. It is simply what it says.
MrHydra933BR
Member
An offer no one can refuse.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
$100M just to keep the game away from PS gamers. Not to create anything new, not to give Xbox players something unique. Only to take something away from everyone else.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Who saying they lost it? The game sold and it helps sell some consoles. Am sure they never lost it
phil_t98
#SonyToo
The other side do it to, remember the thread at the start of this gen where Sony had approached all third party’s with offers for exclusive games,. Its not just one side doing it
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
He says "deals".. it is absolutely not clear which subject of the sentence "worth $100 million" is referring to.. the initial subject is "deals" however... he's missing some commas either way, it is not a grammatically correct sentence so it definitely is up for interpretation.
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
Sony has done it too, sure, but nothing quite to this degree that I can remember. And then we haven't even brought up MS buying an entire publisher for the same reason (their inability to build up/not destroy worthwhile internal studios).
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
What are you reading?
DarkMage619
$MSFT
You must have missed Final Fantasy 7 remake blocked on Xbox or all the Destiny 2 exclusive guns and strikes. Street Fighter 5 says hi. The Bethesda purchase did not stop the games from hitting PC, being streamed, and MS makes 2 consoles for people of different economic means. It's not the same at all.
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
Sony funded and saved SF5. They invested millions in the tournaments and the Capcom Cup prizes. Anyway, it's only a spoonful of their own soup after all the moneyhatting MS did during the 360 era. They're (Xbox) the ones who started the trend.
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
Last sentence of the second to last paragraph. I don't know what you're reading since that sentence doesn't even mention the word "deals" in plural. It's clear and plain as a sunny day. You're either reading the wrong thing or can't read English.
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
Sony blocked FF7R from appearing anywhere else? Alright, didn't know that.
But you're right, that's not the same at all as buying an entire publisher to take away several of the most popular franchises in the world from the majority of all console gamers.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Then it's all good then. Sony blocks games on Xbox. MS blocks games on PlayStation. It's all business.
There are tons of Final Fantasy games on Xbox but for some reason FF7R is missing. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
Name one game announced for PlayStation canceled by the Bethesda purchase. Just name one. Deathloop? Ghostwire Tokyo? The Bethesda purchase didn't affect Sony at all. Plus all Sony gamers have monster PC rigs to play any games that hit PC. You don't need an Xbox to play Xbox games.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
RoadHazard
Gold Member
No future TES, Fallout, Doom, Starfield, etc, will come to PlayStation. If MS hadn't bought them they would have, 100%. PlayStation gamers now don't get to play those games unless they pay for another console or a good PC, and a lot of people can't afford that (I can, but I prefer to focus my gaming to one or two systems, and I already have a Switch as well because I can't miss certain Nintendo games). But sure, didn't affect anything at all.
And what do you mean all Sony gamers have monster PCs? Lol. I can assure you the vast majority don't.
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Magnific0giganticus
Banned
Yeah, it's all good. All is fair in war and love or so the saying goes. I don't care about all that Bethesda garbage anyway, last game I played from them was 10 years ago, Skyrim, didn't buy it, borrowed it, pretty average and mediocre, and that's their greatest game...I think I"ll be fine. MS probably did PS gamers a huge favor, though it is to be expected all Bethesda IP will take a huge hit in sales and popularity since they won't release on a major platform.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Street fighter 5? Buying insomniac who had made a game for Xbox, the wipeout studio from Liverpool? Sony have done exactly what you said they havent
also they money hatted Tomb raider not to be on the Saturn back in the day
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
They helped fund SFV. Insomniac was already basically a Sony studio, it was an incredibly natural acquisition. Their one Xbox exclusive failed hard compared to their Sony games. Studio Liverpool wasn't a huge AAA developer when Sony bought them. Insomniac is pretty much the only example of that, and again, that was the most natural thing ever.
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
He edited it. I guess someone told him that bit of info wasn't really doing his former employers any favors.
normalguy09x
Member
That's a lot of money for such a mediocre franchise.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
None of the games you mentioned were announced PlayStation titles. Previously released games are still getting supported. Deathloop for example WAS announced and guess what? It's still coming out! Again the Bethesda deal didn't affect Sony at all.
Xbox gamers knew 100% the next Street Fighter was going to hit Xbox. Several titles hit Xbox in the past. Too bad for them they didn't get it. Even funnier it wasn't because Capcom was purchased by Sony.
Sony gamers nor Xbox gamers can be guaranteed to get a game. You have no proof those titles you mentioned would ever hit PlayStation and now we can be pretty sure they aren't. They can either play on the PCs most Sony gamers brag about when mentioning Xbox titles or they can simply buy an Xbox. MS makes 2 of them.
Exactly Bethesda starting sucking as soon as MS purchased them! Makes perfect sense.
Magnific0giganticus
Banned
Why you people have to cry like a bitch and put words I didn't say? If that's what you take of me in my "humble opinion" thinking Bethesda is trash, then so be it, go on and cry about it. I could show you my PSN ID where you'll find exactly 1 Bethesda game I've played since 2012 (when I beat it): Skyrim. I also owned and beat Oblivion but I don't have trophies for that one since they didn't exist back then.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
I echoed your sentiments perfectly. Bethesda sucking just so happens to coincide with the MS purchase. Why would I cry about a Bethesda purchase? I've liked their games before MS bought them and I like their games today. No need for the bitterness or tough guy act.
PropellerEar
Member
You're replying to DirkMagusDCXIX @fanfiction.net.
His fantastical stories warp the reality.