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[MatrixReloaded101]

Everyone keeps saying Xbox now has no games coming this year…. Well we will find out next month at the showcase.

 

[adamsapple]

Not really confirmation, but yeah, one would think that is what they referring to.

NGL, even if they show some bomb ass game play, it'll feel a bit hollow so close to this unexpected delay announcement.

And yes, it was unexpected the way they kept hammering the 11/11 across social media just a few weeks ago.

 

[GHG]

If I'm being honest I'm not seeing a reason to resubscribe to PC gamepass for the remainder of this year. I have flight sim and FH5 on Steam so that's all I need for now. Might resub at the end of the year for a month to try anything I'm unsure about but apart from that, they aren't giving me a reason to.

It's a shame really, the service was looking promising last year but at the end of the day they need to deliver on that promise, if not there's no point.

 

[Thirty7ven]

 

[SEGA_2012]

No problem with the delay.
They need more time to polish their Masterpiece, to cook a great meal.
We can wait, Bethesda

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Not sure how games getting delayed would be embarrassing these days. Not exactly like everyone else is on time and MS are the only ones having issues.

The timed Sony exclusives make for a funny anecdote but were obviously known upfront. I can see it being frustrating more than embarrassing, especially since Starfield was looking like the centerpiece of their year (at least from what we know so far).

To me it just shows they were pretty unprepared for this generation until very, very recently. If they were hinging their H2 of 2021 on a game that would've been a multiplat had they not announced intent to purchased the developer two months before their new consoles released, that shows they were unprepared with a longer-term plan IMO.

Yes Sony, Nintendo etc. delay games as well. But not to the same propensity and rate as Microsoft, and not without other games to fill in the gaps. They also don't tend to parade a game as coming on a very specific day, in a very specific month, of the calendar year, only to then delay it by up to seven months (potentially) with a vague-ass release timeframe window.

On the bright side, this gives me a lot of opportunity to tackle my backlog. I feel much less guilty now about finally diving into Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order recently before my extra playthrough of Cyberpunk 2077.

A game practically advertised for six months (if not more) for a certain date suddenly pushed back by up to seven more months (if not more) shouldn't be needed to tackle a backlog, but hey...

 

[phil_t98]

Everyone keeps saying Xbox now has no games coming this year…. Well we will find out next month at the showcase.

I know its like they think xbox only has 1 game coming out this year and it got cancelled

 

[Topher]

NGL, even if they show some bomb ass game play, it'll feel a bit hollow so close to this unexpected delay announcement.

And yes, it was unexpected the way they kept hammering the 11/11 across social media just a few weeks ago.

I'll be glad to see what the game really is regardless. They gave themselves a pretty big window for releasing it in the first half of 2023, but I'm hoping they can get it out by February or March.

 

[adamsapple]

I'll be glad to see what the game really is regardless. They gave themselves a pretty big window for releasing it in the first half of 2023, but I'm hoping they can get it out by February or March.

I thought they had done that when they announced a release date one and a half years in advance in the first place. But here we are

 

[DeepEnigma]

Everyone keeps saying Xbox now has no games coming this year…. Well we will find out next month at the showcase.

I know its like they think xbox only has 1 game coming out this year and it got cancelled

Wait for E3 has returned.

 

[PropellerEar]

I'm sad for Todd, I bet he really wanted to make it to that magical 11.11.22 date.

You're all in on bets today.

 

[DaGwaphics]

To me it just shows they were pretty unprepared for this generation until very, very recently. If they were hinging their H2 of 2021 on a game that would've been a multiplat had they not announced intent to purchased the developer two months before their new consoles released, that shows they were unprepared with a longer-term plan IMO.

I think GP and studio acquisitions were their long-term plan. Games take a long time to make and we had/have a pandemic going on. Makes the fruits of those moves a little slow to appear. Even more so since most of the studios they acquired had just released projects and were near the beginning of their next cycles.

Certainly true that their pipeline was too thin for the entirety of the X1 run which didn't put them in the best position to start with this time around. Sony was a bit slow at the start of the PS4 gen as well, it happens.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I'll be glad to see what the game really is regardless. They gave themselves a pretty big window for releasing it in the first half of 2023, but I'm hoping they can get it out by February or March.

That's very optimistic and I'm still looking forward to the game, too, but has Bethesda ever released a massive game in February or March, historically speaking?

Plus what if Avowed and Hellblade II get pushed back, and don't make it out in 2023? They'd need something for the holiday season, might as well make that game Starfield.

I think GP and studio acquisitions were their long-term plan. Games take a long time to make and we had/have a pandemic going on. Makes the fruits of those moves a little slow to appear. Even more so since most of the studios they acquired had just released projects and were near the beginning of their next cycles.

Certainly true that their pipeline was too thin for the entirety of the X1 run which didn't put them in the best position to start with this time around. Sony was a bit slow at the start of the PS4 gen as well, it happens.

I mean long-term more in terms of not leaving any release gaps of major games, which those options don't cover. They haven't gotten a consistent flow of big 3P AAA games in GP Day 1 (let alone 1P games), and even most of the 2018 studio acquisitions are taking a long time to produce results.

MS should've been balancing out acquisitions with more 3P timed exclusives, and positioning other games better. Bleeding Edge could've been saved for Xbox Series X and S. Flight Sim should've had another big content update that didn't hinge on an upcoming movie (which got delayed, thus pushed back that content). They could've expanded Hivebusters even more and advertised/pushed it harder at launch. Those are just some examples of many.

 

[kyoji]

 

[oldergamer]

What a shitty year for Microsoft
That's not how you sell consoles

People are overreacting. We still don't know if they have something in place for this year. People will find out in june

 

[DaGwaphics]

People are overreacting. We still don't know if they have something in place for this year. People will find out in june

Hopefully they have some surprises.

 

[Max_Po]

man Twitter is on FIRE

 

[Topher]

That's very optimistic and I'm still looking forward to the game, too, but has Bethesda ever released a massive game in February or March, historically speaking?

Plus what if Avowed and Hellblade II get pushed back, and don't make it out in 2023? They'd need something for the holiday season, might as well make that game Starfield.

Extremely optimistic. Realistically June is probably what they are targeting. If it gets delayed again till the Fall......

 

[Max_Po]

 

[nominedomine]

If I'm being honest I'm not seeing a reason to resubscribe to PC gamepass for the remainder of this year. I have flight sim and FH5 on Steam so that's all I need for now. Might resub at the end of the year for a month to try anything I'm unsure about but apart from that, they aren't giving me a reason to.

It's a shame really, the service was looking promising last year but at the end of the day they need to deliver on that promise, if not there's no point.

If you don't sub for some time MS usually makes you eligible for the 1$ promo again after some months.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

If I'm being honest I'm not seeing a reason to resubscribe to PC gamepass for the remainder of this year. I have flight sim and FH5 on Steam so that's all I need for now. Might resub at the end of the year for a month to try anything I'm unsure about but apart from that, they aren't giving me a reason to.

It's a shame really, the service was looking promising last year but at the end of the day they need to deliver on that promise, if not there's no point.

Said this earlier in the year. The investment in gamepass has been poor. Thought they'd be more aggressive than this

Makes it easy to believe Phil when he said it's sustainable.

 

[Topher]

People are overreacting. We still don't know if they have something in place for this year. People will find out in june

People are not overreacting. Yeah, it would be good if MS can pull a rabbit out of their hat to have something this year, but nothing is going to fill this void. Folks are upset and they have a right to be after seeing that release date paraded around in every tweet and video the last few months.

 

[ANDS]

I know its like they think xbox only has 1 game coming out this year and it got cancelled

What are the other marquee games that have been announced as coming out? STARFIELD was THEE MS title of the holiday season. This is bad news no matter how you slice it.

 

[Laptop1991]

That's very optimistic and I'm still looking forward to the game, too, but has Bethesda ever released a massive game in February or March, historically speaking?

Oblivion, March 2006, but then again it was delayed from the previous Autumn, which is what seems to be happening again.

 

[mckmas8808]

Well I’m not sure if the date given was just nice in theory or something they really thought possible. What’s stranger to me is showing that elaborate Redfall reveal, a game no one seems to be excited for, and then giving us a Summer 22 release date. I don’t understand what’s going on over there.

Dang, I forgot what the release date was. So it was really Summer 22 for Redfall? If so, that's crazy!

 

[Danknugz]

first time i heard of that red fall game, looks pretty cringe

 

[ZehDon]

The delay is disappointing, but if it avoids another Halo Infinite disaster, it’s absolutely worth it. Microsoft can’t afford to have bad games when they’re releasing so few.

With that said, Microsoft is going to close out two years of their console with just one decent exclusive: Forza Horizon 5. Questions are rightfully being asked: what the hell are they doing? Unless they have a secret major title dropping instead of Starfield - highly unlikely - they’re releasing no major games on 2022 at all. With the number of studios they have, and the time they’ve been given, it’s starting to look like bad management across the board.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see a big third party title money hatted on to Game Pass to fill the gap Starfield is leaving.

 

[akimbo009]

damnit.

 

[mckmas8808]

If I'm being honest I'm not seeing a reason to resubscribe to PC gamepass for the remainder of this year. I have flight sim and FH5 on Steam so that's all I need for now. Might resub at the end of the year for a month to try anything I'm unsure about but apart from that, they aren't giving me a reason to.

It's a shame really, the service was looking promising last year but at the end of the day they need to deliver on that promise, if not there's no point.

Isn't it a problem if too many gamers think like the bolded? Isn't the whole point of their business model is for people to be signed up for years at a time to help financially support the games being made going forward?

 

[SenjutsuSage]

To me it just shows they were pretty unprepared for this generation until very, very recently. If they were hinging their H2 of 2021 on a game that would've been a multiplat had they not announced intent to purchased the developer two months before their new consoles released, that shows they were unprepared with a longer-term plan IMO.

Yes Sony, Nintendo etc. delay games as well. But not to the same propensity and rate as Microsoft, and not without other games to fill in the gaps. They also don't tend to parade a game as coming on a very specific day, in a very specific month, of the calendar year, only to then delay it by up to seven months (potentially) with a vague-ass release timeframe window.



A game practically advertised for six months (if not more) for a certain date suddenly pushed back by up to seven more months (if not more) shouldn't be needed to tackle a backlog, but hey...

Actually, shows how little you know. I was going to go back to Skyrim (already started it last year) and then after that I was going to play Fallout 4. Without this delay I would have went to replay and complete those games much sooner. Now the delay buys me more time to add another game or two to my list of things to play. One of the few big game releases I had never played till now was Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order. I have still yet to touch my copy of Elden Ring, so I have more time for that also.

Also, never touched Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Another game to get to.

 

[azertydu91]

The delay is disappointing, but if it avoids another Halo Infinite disaster, it’s absolutely worth it. Microsoft can’t afford to have bad games when they’re releasing so few.

With that said, Microsoft is going to close out two years of their console with just one decent exclusive: Forza Horizon 5. Questions are rightfully being asked: what the hell are they doing? Unless they have a secret major title dropping instead of Starfield - highly unlikely - they’re releasing no major games on 2022 at all. With the number of studios they have, and the time they’ve been given, it’s starting to look like bad management across the board.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see a big third party title money hatted on to Game Pass to fill the gap Starfield is leaving.

But Halo was delayed too ?And for more than a year and it's Bethesda....They are very hit or miss.

 

[ByWatterson]

Eh. Too much to play already.

Sony's year is pretty dry, too after the two heavy hitters in Q1 - and that's even if God of War hits this year, which would honestly surprise me at this point.

And, these two won't be popular, but here we go:

1. Everyone needs to get back in the goddamn office. Stop this histrionic work from home bullshit. Get vaccinated (or don't! I don't give a shit) and get back to the actual office.
2. Crunch is and must be a part of game development. Sorry, everyone.

 

[Perrott]

You're all in on bets today.

I mean, I say it because he always likes to play around with the dates for his games (Skyrim's 11.11.11 and Fallout 4's Vault 101 logo transitioning into a 11.10.15), so it's a shame that he missed on such a special date, 11.11.22, this time around.

 

[Lognor]

Ugh! I'm absolutely gutted. I don't care about redfall but starfield hurts. Microsoft really dropped the ball this year

 

[Topher]

Actually, shows how little you know. I was going to go back to Skyrim (already started it last year) and then after that I was going to play Fallout 4. Without this delay I would have went to replay and complete those games much sooner. Now the delay buys me more time to add another game or two to my list of things to play. One of the few big game releases I had never played till now was Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order. I have still yet to touch my copy of Elden Ring, so I have more time for that also.

Also, never touched Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Another game to get to.

So.....Thanks, Phil?

 

[Menzies]

Yeah…this one hurts after Halo. Microsoft need to get their shit together. They will have to pay overs to buy a game to come into game pass this year now.

 

[nominedomine]

Eh. Too much to play already.

Sony's year is pretty dry, too after the two heavy hitters in Q1 - and that's even if God of War hits this year, which would honestly surprise me at this point.

How could Sony year be dry with GT7, Horizon FW and God of War Ragnarok? Not to mention Sony has games like Forspoken and Ghostwire: Tokyo too that they paid for.

 

[Fake]

As a well known hardcore Xbox fan

For real?

C'mon.

 

[ByWatterson]

How could Sony year be dry with GT7, Horizon FW and God of War Ragnarok? Not to mention Sony has games like Forspoken and Ghostwire: Tokyo too that they paid for.

Because I literally mentioned those already? AFTER Q1 the year looks pretty empty at the moment. Maybe FFVXI hits, but Forspoken looks not good, and Ragnarok is a question mark on the calendar.

It's a rough year, period.

Unless and until we fill out the second half of the year.

 

[NeonGhost]

Lmao and so many people were willing to die on the sword saying it was coming out this year

 

[nominedomine]

Because I literally mentioned those already? AFTER Q1 the year looks pretty empty at the moment. Maybe FFVXI hits, but Forspoken looks not good, and Ragnarok is a question mark on the calendar.

It's a rough year, period.

Unless and until we fill out the second half of the year.

I don't get it, the games they released already don't count for 2022?

 

[rkofan87]

so the not e3 xbox pc is dead right?

 

[kingfey]

I'll be glad to see what the game really is regardless. They gave themselves a pretty big window for releasing it in the first half of 2023, but I'm hoping they can get it out by February or March.

They can eat shit at this point for all I care.
They sat down happily like the game is done and good to go, just for them to delay it.

That is what I get for supporting bethesda.

 

[Negotiator101]

 

[ByWatterson]

I don't get it, the games they released already don't count for 2022?

I don't know how much simpler I can say this.

After Q1, Sony's year appears pretty dry. Even if God of War hits, there's only one Sony first-party game coming out that we know about. If it does not hit, that's 75% of the year without a first-party title. That's a long time.

Versus the year of non-stop excellence from the summer of 2020 through summer 2021: Ghost, Last of Us, Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Sackboy, Astro, Returnal, Ratchet & Clank. This 12-18 month period is absolutely slower.

 

[ZehDon]

But Halo was delayed too ?And for more than a year and it's Bethesda....They are very hit or miss.

And Halo needed another two year delay? Launching a game half done doesn’t work - Halo Infinite is in flames right now.
Bethesda are hit and miss if you mean everything they release sells and reviews incredibly well? Fallout 4 wasn’t to my tastes, but everything else they’ve released is rock solid.

 

[kingfey]

Its funny that my 1st April joke post become real.

 

[azertydu91]

And Halo needed another two year delay? Launching a game half done doesn’t work - Halo Infinite is in flames right now.
Bethesda are hit and miss if you mean everything they release sells and reviews incredibly well? Fallout 4 wasn’t to my tastes, but everything else they’ve released is rock solid.

Quality wise they've been hit or miss, like fallout 76 or even fallout 4 that was a bugfest around launch...I don't care how much a game sells as long as it is good (of course said game selling well can garantee a sequel)

 

[kingfey]

I don't know how much simpler I can say this.

After Q1, Sony's year appears pretty dry. Even if God of War hits, there's only one Sony first-party game coming out that we know about. If it does not hit, that's 75% of the year without a first-party title. That's a long time.

Versus the year of non-stop excellence from the summer of 2020 through summer 2021: Ghost, Last of Us, Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Sackboy, Astro, Returnal, Ratchet & Clank. This 12-18 month period is absolutely slower.

Sony already did their job.

Released returnal and ratchet and Clank in 2021.
They also released hfw, gt7 in 2022, with God of war ragnorak being in the air.

MS on other hand throw all their basket in 2021, leaving nothing for 2022.

 

[nominedomine]

I don't know how much simpler I can say this.

After Q1, Sony's year appears pretty dry. Even if God of War hits, there's only one Sony first-party game coming out that we know about. If it does not hit, that's 75% of the year without a first-party title. That's a long time.

Versus the year of non-stop excellence from the summer of 2020 through summer 2021: Ghost, Last of Us, Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Sackboy, Astro, Returnal, Ratchet & Clank. This 12-18 month period is absolutely slower.

You hold it against them that they had great 2020 to call their 2022 with GT7, Horizon and God of War Ragnarok dry? I just don't agree at all with that view at all I guess but if that's how you see it so be it.

2020 was the year the PS5 was released and they made sure they had some extra games for launch like any platform holder should do.