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Street Fighter 6 is releasing in 2023

yurinka

Member
Did anyone spot air blocks or air parries?

strange, the state of play trailer only showed PS4/PS5
Trailers of multiplatform games shown at platform holder events don't show the logos of rival consoles, same happens in Nintendo or MS events.

Unfortunately it looks like it has similar mechanics...or at least that heavy slow feel of SF5.
The mechanics are different. It has universal parries, perfect parries, focus attack, dash cancel (out of a parry or cancelable move) and alpha counter. All of them -and EX specials- are done with a new bar instead of the Super gauge and doesn't have a stun bar.

It doesn't have the SFV mechanics of V-Skill, V-Trigger etc.

I'm excited for so many new characters. I would like to see Fei Long, C. Viper in the game at some point too. I was also hoping G would be around; kind of confused why he isn't.
I'd love to see all them back. But I'd redesign the visual design of G.
 
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That gif loop is on point.
It's what I do. lol
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dezzy8

Member
Eh, I don't think that happening considering how forgotten SFII V was.

And regards to a SF game going to have a total new roster with no returning is a huge risk that Capcom isn't going to make, they're playing safe and tbh it's smartest thing to do.
Yep they tried that with SF3 and we all know goes that turned out. I love the approach they took with this one.
 
You know people with different tastes and all that jazz.
But this looks stunning.
Im sold as shit.

And I dont get all the Chun Li hate.....she looks "old"? What the fuck is up with people, its an awesome costume and her face looks great.
I hope the vocal minority doesnt get to Capcom and they decide to change things.
The game looks amazing any mechanical problems we will only really know after launch, and they can fix those, but from what we have seen I dont know how Street Fighter fans can be so negative.....but then again it is NeoGAF so theres always a bunch of naysayers who seemingly dont actually enjoying playing games they just enjoy complaining about games.

Yeah some of the Chun stuff I've seen around is....very weird. Apparently some people are even complaining she looks "too Asian" or too Chinese like...huh? At very least it sounds kind of xenophobic. Imagine saying that about a character of another ethnicity, it sounds dumb. She's older in this one for sure and while I think her calves could be a bit thick and maybe a bit more muscle mass on her upper frame her actual physique seems based around her 3S one.

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Same ratio mostly between hips/thighs, lower calves, upper body between her 3S sprite and SFVI design. I think SFVI being in 3D and having a different art style are what are throwing people off (at least the more rational ones).

And if her feet look bigger here it's because she's wearing boots. If her upper body seems buffer it's because of the padding with the shoulders in the outfit. If her hands seem bigger, it's because of the bracelets. I actually they can tune her look up some between now and launch on these particular things while still keeping the look they have for her in the new game, and I expect a lot of character designs in-game will be tuned here and there between now and launch, just like with SFV.

The mechanics are different. It has universal parries, perfect parries, focus attack, dash cancel (out of a parry or cancelable move) and alpha counter. All of them -and EX specials- are done with a new bar instead of the Super gauge and doesn't have a stun bar.

Which is interesting, because there seem to be more defensive options here vs. SFV. No Stun bar is kind of like another defensive option. I'd question why there's no guard break but one of the Drive abilities seem to act as a sort of guard break in themselves (the one that can cause a wall splat).

I didn't see any air blocks or air parries, maybe some other people have though. Personally I'd take air blocks over air parries; the latter could disrupt neutral too much kind of like it did in 3S. If they do air parries they should do it more like 2I where you got one air parry and it would reset the jumping opponent doing the air parry back to the ground in neutral.

Otherwise I get worried you'll get too many jump-happy players using air parries to option select jump-ins and if they're perfect parries, not take any chip damage. At least air blocks can't really be option selected and you take chip. Unless there's more to the way parries work in this game where that wouldn't make air parries an issue.
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Yeah some of the Chun stuff I've seen around is....very weird. Apparently some people are even complaining she looks "too Asian" or too Chinese like...huh? At very least it sounds kind of xenophobic. Imagine saying that about a character of another ethnicity, it sounds dumb. She's older in this one for sure and while I think her calves could be a bit thick and maybe a bit more muscle mass on her upper frame her actual physique seems based around her 3S one.

SF3_Chun-Li.gif


Same ratio mostly between hips/thighs, lower calves, upper body between her 3S sprite and SFVI design. I think SFVI being in 3D and having a different art style are what are throwing people off (at least the more rational ones).

And if her feet look bigger here it's because she's wearing boots. If her upper body seems buffer it's because of the padding with the shoulders in the outfit. If her hands seem bigger, it's because of the bracelets. I actually they can tune her look up some between now and launch on these particular things while still keeping the look they have for her in the new game, and I expect a lot of character designs in-game will be tuned here and there between now and launch, just like with SFV.

Yeah i dont get Chunli getting called out.
She is Chinese and she is older in this game....its not like shes gone full Grandma hell id argue the slightly smoother geometry makes her look younger.
Saying someone looks too asian is the weirdest criticism ive ever heard of an asian character.
The internet never fails to amaze me, but some of the posts in this thread are twitter level garbage.

The Cammy call outs are clear as day though....shes wearing pants this game is woke.....but she has her classic costume in the game too?
The term woke needs to be expelled from the lexicon because people will throw it out willy nilly for every grievance.
 

MrMephistoX

Member
Love the designs, but bothered by the fact that the original 8 world warriors are still here. At least 4 slots wasted there. Guile was supposed to be a family man already since Nash is fkn dead for good.
If Tekken can get away with the original roster each game I’m okay with it: get them out of the way up front then the DLC and Expansion pass debates are way more interesting. Although I hope they are just the default roster and this isn’t like 6 months of DLC content leaked at once?
 
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SSfox

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The only request i have, is remove that holding buttong to unlock the variant code, my favorite Cammy costume was her Nostalgia X Code, (that give her the extra Cap), so you have to hold many button each time without starting match, which in the long run become annoying

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PS: I wonder if there will be some type of character customiztion in the game, i've seen some Jamie screens where his hair is untied.
 

Labolas

Member
Yeah i dont get Chunli getting called out.
She is Chinese and she is older in this game....its not like shes gone full Grandma hell id argue the slightly smoother geometry makes her look younger.
Saying someone looks too asian is the weirdest criticism ive ever heard of an asian character.
The internet never fails to amaze me, but some of the posts in this thread are twitter level garbage.

The Cammy call outs are clear as day though....shes wearing pants this game is woke.....but she has her classic costume in the game too?
The term woke needs to be expelled from the lexicon because people will throw it out willy nilly for every grievance.
Hmm, well, Chunners does look fucking weird in some shots of the game. Has that uncanny valley thing going. And let's be honest, asian women have been known to hit the wall harder than other races so Chunners looking rough is par for the course, lol.

But if you want to talk about something weird, I find it weird that weirdos are celebrating the fact that she has an Asian VA. What the fuck is difference if the VA is Asian or not? That sounds like some low key racism to me. And by the same token, people are celebrating Cammy is wearing pants.
 
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Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Hmm, well, Chunners does look fucking weird in some shots of the game. Has that uncanny valley thing going. And let's be honest, asian women have been known to hit the wall harder than other races so Chunners looking rough is par for the course, lol.

Arent all the character VAs Asian?
<--- Plays in Japanese.
 

yurinka

Member
ENHANCE!
I did check out the ads and seem they fall under some groups to hint characters like Dee Jay, playable old games, game modes or features like character customizations. I think I also found potential stages or new Metro City key locations:

1: Character customization? "All that glitter is yours", Hot blonde girl. Cammy?
2: Character: Dee Jay
3: Games: The World Warrior, Champion Eition, Hyper Fighting
4: Game mode: Game Hub logo
5: Character customization: "Drippin' style" and holographic shoe
6: Character: Mimi
7: ???
8: Character: Kimberly

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1: Stages: 3 Metro City stages
2: (Gill refenence) Stage? see another "Paradise" reference later
3: Character: Luke
4: Character: Marisa
5: Game: SFIII 2nd Impact (see later)

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1: Character? Behind "IRN" there's seem do be a dark blue haired girl face
2: Stage? "Here! Your paradise"
3: Consumable items? Final Fight reference
4: WTF is "Clanora"???
5: Consumable items? Hakan reference
6: Customization? G reference
7: Consumable items? Final Fight reference

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1: Starry snowball? Stage or Kolin reference?
2: Character customizatiion: "Cosmetics Kelly"
2: Character customizatiion

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Character (Luke) and game (SFIII 2nd Impact)
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Game ("Final Fight"), consumables ("Metrosip Cafe") and character customization ("Meet the new you", "Beauty Salon")
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A gym, maybe to level up your avatar
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Haggar Stadium with nearby old house, an old factory and shrine that look like stages, plus the dock containers and Haggar statue we see in other parts of the video
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Under construction building from Ultra SFIV stage and possibly the seaside park/promenade from Final Fight that has the Liberty statue in the other side
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The only request i have, is remove that holding buttong to unlock the variant code, my favorite Cammy costume was her Nostalgia X Code, (that give her the extra Cap), so you have to hold many button each time without starting match, which in the long run become annoying

PS: I wonder if there will be some type of character customiztion in the game, i've seen some Jamie screens where his hair is untied.
It would be great to have a menu to choose the variaton and color of the custom, or to go beyond that and selecting the costume to customize the characters.

In the leaked Capcom mails there were many 3D SF6 assets that were hats or glasses. Maybe they were only for NPCs, but maybe are also to customize your avatar or the normal characters. It would be great to have a very complete character editor for both the avatar and normal characters.
 
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Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
This hyped me up almost as much as SF4 originally did. It looks like an absolute blast, and I’m super digging the art style. I hope the single player mode is at least a few hours long. It looks dope.
 
Also Ken is a literal bum now. Feels bad man.
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If it's true, it's a drastic change of direction which would just make him Ryu 2. But it means he has the most interesting back story of all the characters, and it makes him a relevant character for the first time in a long time (even though I don't play SF for the story).
 
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Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Yeah exactly. But seriously if someone is celebrating this as a win. Go fuck off somewhere.
Odd thing to care about.
Thats directed at them and at you but okay.
Fuck off if you care that Chun Lis VA is Asian!
 

Fake

Member
Very hyped with the trailer. Seems they learned from the mistakes of V and make a game that looks different, more universal mechanics and seems that good single player modes.

2023 its looking awesome with this, RE4 and FFXVI!

We can't say anythink mechanic related yet. Just believe in the teaser.
Hope they get more cautions about the gameplay after SF5 reception.
 
Yeah i dont get Chunli getting called out.
She is Chinese and she is older in this game....its not like shes gone full Grandma hell id argue the slightly smoother geometry makes her look younger.
Saying someone looks too asian is the weirdest criticism ive ever heard of an asian character.
The internet never fails to amaze me, but some of the posts in this thread are twitter level garbage.

The Cammy call outs are clear as day though....shes wearing pants this game is woke.....but she has her classic costume in the game too?
The term woke needs to be expelled from the lexicon because people will throw it out willy nilly for every grievance.

Yeah I usually try staying out the culture war stuff these days, tho there are some things that happen you can easily trace back to a certain side or the other in that stuff. I kinda hate terms like 'woke' now though because it's just another buzzword at this point and some people use it for even the most conservative of progressive stuff. It can get a bit silly.

Chun basically looks what, maybe 5 or so years older in the face? But yeah she's still pretty youthful, I think people are just gonna have to get more used to the newer artstyle and more realistic visuals. If there are things the devs want to tune up though, they will.

I expect all the character models to look even more polished and fine-tuned by time of release.

Overall, I don't really have a problem with Chun's look in this game. I wouldn't mind if her thighs were a little thiccer, but I can live with it.

There's some real weird shit going on with her crotch and ass, though. There's tights, and then there's this.

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Oh yeah, they need to fix that. There should be some visible spandex material stretching out around there. Reminds me of the black leather suit mod for her in SFV:

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It's basically like black spray paint nude body painting 😂 (but, I do like this mod a lot).

Hmm, well, Chunners does look fucking weird in some shots of the game. Has that uncanny valley thing going. And let's be honest, asian women have been known to hit the wall harder than other races so Chunners looking rough is par for the course, lol.

But if you want to talk about something weird, I find it weird that weirdos are celebrating the fact that she has an Asian VA. What the fuck is difference if the VA is Asian or not? That sounds like some low key racism to me. And by the same token, people are celebrating Cammy is wearing pants.

Wait what xD? I've seen quite a few Asian women in their 40s and 50s who look way younger than some people in their mid '20s. I mean "Asian don't raisin" is a saying, kinda like "Black don't crack". Although you can find plenty of examples in both cases where it's not true for a good number of people 😂

TBF tho I never got the "controversy" over Laura Baily voicing Chun-Li, or Nadine in UC4 for that matter. Her intent with both was obviously very respectful and professional, and she did a great job with them. But a new wave of idiots in certain places for some reason want to constrain what type of characters people can even voice. If they applied that logic equally people like Phil LaMarr & Cree Summer (great voice actors/actresses) would have to come out and apologize for dozens of characters they've voiced but, equality isn't actually what it's about for the people who made Laura step down from doing certain character voices in the future simply because of her skin color 🤨.

I mean, should we get actual animals to voice anthropomorphic characters for now on? Or make NASA reveal the aliens so they can voice all non-Earth lifeforms and fantasy creatures going forward? 🤣

Very hyped with the trailer. Seems they learned from the mistakes of V and make a game that looks different, more universal mechanics and seems that good single player modes.

2023 its looking awesome with this, RE4 and FFXVI!

Still crazy how good FF XVI is looking. It's definitely in the running for GOTY 2023, I think it has a very good shot at this point.
 
less cartoony.
I still think capcom should have asked arksys to do a full makeover and make it look like modern day Guilty gear meets SFa2 / sf3.

But eh better looking then 4 and 5
They could but Arcsys is a primary competitor to Capcom and currently dabbing on anything Capcom puts out.
 

Labolas

Member
Wait what xD? I've seen quite a few Asian women in their 40s and 50s who look way younger than some people in their mid '20s. I mean "Asian don't raisin" is a saying, kinda like "Black don't crack". Although you can find plenty of examples in both cases where it's not true for a good number of people 😂

TBF tho I never got the "controversy" over Laura Baily voicing Chun-Li, or Nadine in UC4 for that matter. Her intent with both was obviously very respectful and professional, and she did a great job with them. But a new wave of idiots in certain places for some reason want to constrain what type of characters people can even voice. If they applied that logic equally people like Phil LaMarr & Cree Summer (great voice actors/actresses) would have to come out and apologize for dozens of characters they've voiced but, equality isn't actually what it's about for the people who made Laura step down from doing certain character voices in the future simply because of her skin color 🤨.

I mean, should we get actual animals to voice anthropomorphic characters for now on? Or make NASA reveal the aliens so they can voice all non-Earth lifeforms and fantasy creatures going forward? 🤣

Eh, fair enough. Just that asain women typically look more their age. Anyways, Chunners still does look rough. But assuming Capcom takes notice and polishes it should be fine.

And personally, I never really cared too much VAs to begin with, especially nowadays.
Cross gen but not multiplat...thanks Sony.
It is though. It's on Xbox and PC.
 

Manji Uzuki

Member
We can't say anythink mechanic related yet. Just believe in the teaser.
Hope they get more cautions about the gameplay after SF5 reception.

Well, the official website breaksdown quite a lot about the drive meter and what you can do with it like parries, alpha counters, ex moves, etc The only thing is not very clear yet is how you regain that bar. They just say that doing a succesfull parry does return you the meter you used.
 
Eh, fair enough. Just that asain women typically look more their age. Anyways, Chunners still does look rough. But assuming Capcom takes notice and polishes it should be fine.

And personally, I never really cared too much VAs to begin with, especially nowadays.

It is though. It's on Xbox and PC.

If I'm being honest there is something kinda off with some of the character models. I noticed it in particular with the leaked Cammy footage. It could've been the screengrab in particular, but there's a part where it seems like her forehead is engorged or deformed. Little things like that, I expect to get fixed over the next few months as the visuals are further tightened up.

It's not just the tightness of her pants. Some moves make it look like her legs are growing out of the side of her butt at a 90 degree angle.

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Yeah that's something they're gonna have to fix. That wasn't a thing in SFV but I'm basing that on the actual released version. The first footage of that game they showed in 2014 looked a bit rough compared to the final release.

In cases like this tho with what's going on with her butt and thigh, they just need more points in the skeletal model, that's probably one thing. Maybe a few other things too but I don't know that much about 3D character modeling.

Anyway tho, since they are going with a SFIII kind of vibe, are there any SF3 songs you all want remixed or just brought back as unlockables? I've got a few favorites...









This is probably my favorite song from the SFIII series tbh





 
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yurinka

Member
New stage reference found in the SF6 trailer, a SF3 3rd Strike stage reference (Remy's stage):
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Regarding the new cast I'm thinking about what types of characters are they going to be and seem to be replacements for non-returning (at least at launch) characters as overal concept and representation:
  • Mimi/Manon: female Abel (female replacement of French representative)
  • Lily: female T-Hawk + Latin American Sakura/Karin/Makoto (female replacement of their Mexican/Latin American representative + Latin American replacement of their female teenager representatives)
  • A.K.I: female F.A.N.G. + female Vega-Claw (female replacement of Chinese bad guy weirdo who uses poison representative + posh weirdo with claw bad guy representative)
  • Jamie: Fei Long/Jun/Yang/Fei Long replacement (Hong Kong representative replacement)
  • Kimberly: female Balrog + black Sakura/Karin/Makoto (female replacement of African American representative & black replacement of female teenager representative)
  • Marisa: female Sagat+Vega (female replacement of tall and jacked character representative + female replacement of ancient European fighting style representative)
  • JP: Russian Gen/G/Gill/M.Bison-Dictator (Russian replacement of elderly character/dandy/final boss bad guy). According to the leak has psycho power, has some affiliaton (I bet neo-Shadaloo, maybe he's the Illuminatti emperor too) and has golden accents that reminds Ed and Falke designs.
Ryu and Ken would be somewhat replaced as the main characters by two young blonde American and Asian brunette fighters who may be somewhat both rival and friends, this time the American would be the protagonist. The two likely bad guys are Chinese and Russian. Many characters replaced by black or native American and specially female versions of them. So only the LGTB quota is missing, I'd bet a few characters will be LGTB, probably Ed, Marisa and maybe the only one who doesn't seem to be filling any agenda: Jamie.

Is it true that guile and ken are brothers so Guile Masters?
They aren't brothers but have a family connection: Guile's wife (Julia, known as Jane in the English version of some games) is the sister of Ken's wife (Eliza).

The new characters do not look good, possibly more forgettable than SF5.
You are totally wrong. I suggest you to play SFV, it's a masterpiece.

Well, the official website breaksdown quite a lot about the drive meter and what you can do with it like parries, alpha counters, ex moves, etc The only thing is not very clear yet is how you regain that bar. They just say that doing a succesfull parry does return you the meter you used.
The Drive gauge bar gets refilled automatically over time, totally refills at the start of each round and also gets partially filled when successfully performing a pary. This Drive meter bar is used for:
  • Drive Impact (Focus attack)
  • Drive Parry (parry, with a perfectly timed variant)
  • Drive Rush (dash cancel, this time a dash canceling a successful parry or a normal attack instead of a focus attack)
  • Drive Reversal (alpha counter or V-refersal)
  • Overdrive Arts (EX special attacks)
It's important to notice that EX moves now use this bar so seems the Supers bar is only going to be used for Super Arts (seems that there will be at least 3 Super Arts per characters). Super Art gauge gets refilled with each attack performed and has 3 levels and carries over rounds.

is that a mexicana con machete? hay wey.
Being Mexican and having native features she may be related to T.Hawk, who in SFA3 unsuccessfully went to save his sister Julia who got brainwashed by Shadaloo (turned into Juli, one of the Shadaloo dolls). Later in his Super SF2 ending T.Hawk goes back to his home land reconstruct his tribe, which was killed by Shadaloo. In SSFIV his tribe is being reconstructed and have children around there and goes again to find Julia. As in the SFA3 ending he finds her but both endings aren't canon because she appears again as a Shadaloo in SFV.

In this SSFIV intro T.Hawks mentions he rejected to be the new leader of the tribe because he thinks he still doesn't deserve it. Who knows, maybe he accepted it now and this girl is from his tribe. Or who knows, she may even be his daughter.
 
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Fake

Member
IDK if was already answer, but Street Fighter 6 is using RE engine.


#StreetFighter6 is being developed by Capcom's own RE Engine where realism meets graffiti to form a brand new identity.
🎨

Hope they can explore the graffiti, like they used in Street Fighter 4.
 
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Fake

Member
Nice, we may have a SF game without that input lag, also no need to cut some benefits to Epic this time around.

People have being saying the SFV netcode is terrible, but was UE fault, no?

Anw, better they own engine that rellying into UE like almost every other company is doing. Every game using UE is become boring, almost lack of personality.
 

SSfox

Member
People have being saying the SFV netcode is terrible, but was UE fault, no?

Anw, better they own engine that rellying into UE like almost every other company is doing. Every game using UE is become boring, almost lack of personality.
Yes SF5 netcode is not good, but idk if it's related to UE4, Good point. But i don't think so since GG is UE4 and has goldlike netcode.

And yep, totally agree with you second point.
 
People have being saying the SFV netcode is terrible, but was UE fault, no?

Anw, better they own engine that rellying into UE like almost every other company is doing. Every game using UE is become boring, almost lack of personality.
No, MvCI was UE4 and same netcode, but was much better (of course the game flopped so no one cared). SFV's problem was Capcom made there own version of GGPO, they called "Kagemusha", after the positive feedback of GGPO in Third Strike Online Edition, Darkstalkers Resurrection, and Marvel Origins, but fucked something up in it's implementation resulting in 1 sided rollback. Tony Cannon, creator of GGPO, discussed it once in a GGPO panel.
 

Fake

Member
No, MvCI was UE4 and same netcode, but was much better (of course the game flopped so no one cared). SFV's problem was Capcom made there own version of GGPO, they called "Kagemusha", after the positive feedback of GGPO in Third Strike Online Edition, Darkstalkers Resurrection, and Marvel Origins, but fucked something up in it's implementation resulting in 1 sided rollback. Tony Cannon, creator of GGPO, discussed it once in a GGPO panel.


A lot of pro players saying the game got too easy to master and the consequence was the less rewarding matches, but the problem with Unreal Engine 4 are people got tons of layers to make modification. IDK if this have anything to do with the netcode, but UE4 is an ass to mod.

I still playing SF4 on PS4 since I jumped from SF4 on Xbox 360, can't say much about SF4 netcode, but I never seeing anyone whining about that much.
 
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