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Xbox and Bethesda Showcase June 12th

Papacheeks

Banned
High on Life
A Plague Tale: Requiem
Overwatch 2
Scorn
As Dusk Falls
Naraka Bladepoint
Pentiment
Grounded 1.0

All 2022, not even including updates, DLC's, and ports coming this year.
Dude overwatch 2 is F2P?

Scorn is meh,

Please what game in that list competes with Hogwarts, MW2, God of war, Last of us part 1 remake?

Grounded is a update?

HIGH ON LIFE is really the only big new title, Plague tale is a nice title but it pales to something like MW2, Hogwarts, God of war.

Please stop your just embarrassing yourself at this point.

Which one of those is first party? Grounded?

This show did nothing to pull in new Xbox gamers. If you are already happy with Xbox you will continue to be, if you aren’t, you have no new reason to dive in.

What this showcase did is reaffirm my love For Nintendo and PlayStation type games.

This was davidjaffe davidjaffe and my point on what that showcase did. There's nothing big this fall for xbox which sucks, also where the fuck was halo update? I mean if your happy gamepass subscriber there's a good amount to look forward too specifically next year. But if you dont have an xbox and have been on the fence which is still a lot of people, then this showcase did nothing to move that needle.
 
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starfield looks like a gritty no mans sky no thanks. i dunno if it was the stream or what but it looked good graphic wise but the performance looked ass then again i never have been a fan of fallout games and thats what it looks like gameplay wise. still diont understand the hyperbole around it.

very disappointed about no kojima teaser concept art nothing like what? you had him on the show to what flex? ok. i cant wait to play his new game in 3 years (and thats not a jab im a huge kojima mark)

the show over all was alot better then previous years e3 sizzles. redfall looked good but games like scorn did not and i feel like most of these are going to be on other platforms its the one thing xbox struggles with there no reason to own one sadly.
I did get a No Man's Sky vibe as soon as the laser cutter came out.
 
High on Life
A Plague Tale: Requiem
Overwatch 2
Scorn
As Dusk Falls
Naraka Bladepoint
Pentiment
Grounded 1.0

All 2022, not even including updates, DLC's, and ports coming this year.
That’s an incredibly weak 2022 imo. No exclusive AAA. Still the show beat the pants off of Sonys State of play.
 
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MarkMe2525

Member
Great showcase. I don't know what the hell was going on with all the negativity. I like playing video games, and a bunch of pretty cool video games were shown. Starfield was everything I wished and hoped NMS would be. Very very excited to get to play this in about a years time.
 

Beechos

Member
I thought it was great lot of gameplay shown unlike the cgi fest from prev years. Most of the games shown will be on gamepass. Dissappointed with no new hellblade 2 footage.
 
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Lognor

Banned
This show did nothing to pull in new Xbox gamers. If you are already happy with Xbox you will continue to be, if you aren’t, you have no new reason to dive in.

What this showcase did is reaffirm my love For Nintendo and PlayStation type games.
Kojima is making an Xbox game. That alone pulls in a whole new audience. Brilliant move by Ms.
 
Kojima is making an Xbox game. That alone pulls in a whole new audience. Brilliant move by Ms.
That was a non-announcement. No one is pulled in from that specific segment. If he had shown SOMETHING and it looked good, I would've been in, as I am a huge fan of his work on the Metal Gear Solid franchise.
 

AGRacing

Member
Forza looked EXCELLENT.

I grew up in Canada. Gran Turismo was Japanese tuner cars, a cool progression and an awesome licensed soundtrack. Now with more of a global approach it has become more of cappuccino and pianos vibe. It's nice... but I hope Forza brings me back the GT2 / GT3 feeling I used to have.
 
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Nydius

Member
Had a bunch of errands to do today so just finished watching the show late. Not much to add to the discourse that hasn't already been said. If I were invested solely in Xbox, I'd be extremely disappointed. Nothing of any significance in 2022, the vast majority of what they had to show were niche indies or DLC. I legitimately laughed out loud at their using a newly Free-to-Play, "early access" Overwatch 2 as an announcement. As if Blizzard isn't currently being utterly review bombed for their latest Free-to-Play shitstorm on mobile and PC.

As I wrote in a topic yesterday, I can't bring myself to be excited about a Hot Wheels DLC for FH5 when they're just copying the same concept from two games ago and there's a fully licensed Hot Wheels arcade racer on the market already. Starfield looked... pretty much exactly as I expected it to look, knowing that Bethesda is still using a (highly modified) Creation Engine. Between the limitations of the engine and having to make sure it runs on the Series S (and older PC hardware), the game would inevitably look janky. Bethesda's facial animations continue to be awful; one minor step above the laughably bad animations in Mass Effect Andromeda. I am glad to see I'm not the only one who watched the Starfield gameplay and immediately thought of No Man's Sky... I will not be shocked at all if Starfield ends up getting delayed a full year from its original release date and doesn't come out until November of next year because it looks like it's going to need months of polishing.

The one thing this show really highlighted is that, outside of Turn 10 and, to a lesser extent, Playground Games, there is a vast chasm between the quality of Microsoft's first party output and Sony's. Where is Microsoft's version of Housemarque? Insomniac? Sucker Punch? Naughty Dog? Santa Monica Studio? They simply don't exist. With exception to the aforementioned Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, Microsoft is years behind. They have shown nothing with the same level of polish and technical expertise as Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart, Returnal, Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon Zero Dawn/Forbidden West, or even MLB The Show.

I'm glad I own both systems but Microsoft has a lot of work to do to catch up.
They can't simply buy their way there.
 
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Lognor

Banned
That was a non-announcement. No one is pulled in from that specific segment. If he had shown SOMETHING and it looked good, I would've been in, as I am a huge fan of his work on the Metal Gear Solid franchise.
Don't think it needed more to win kojima fans over. Do you know any of these fans? They're hard core. They'll buy anything with his name attached. A bunch of series consoles were probably sold today after that announcement.
 

marjo

Member
The one thing this show really highlighted is that, outside of Turn 10 and, to a lesser extent, Playground Games, there is a vast chasm between the quality of Microsoft's first party output and Sony's. Where is Microsoft's version of Housemarque? Insomniac? Sucker Punch? Naughty Dog? Santa Monica Studio? They simply don't exist. With exception to the aforementioned Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, Microsoft is years behind. They have shown nothing with the same level of polish and technical expertise as Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart, Returnal, Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon Zero Dawn/Forbidden West, or even MLB The Show.
Shows how different tastes are. I couldn't disagree more with what you said. Psychonauts 2 was a much better game than Ratchet. Horizon Forbidden West was a mediocre open world barely better than the latest Ubisoft games. All recent output by Arkane or ID are far more interesting than most Sony first party. Obsidian makes the best western rpgs around. And on a technical level. nothing matches FS Flight Simulator. Than you add The Coalition, Turn 10 and Playground, and you've got an incredible number of great studios. I'm more excited for the upcoming Microsoft games, even though, historically, I've been more heavily invested in the Sony ecosystem. Still, I am very much looking forward to God Of War Ragnarok.
 

THE DUCK

voted poster of the decade by bots
So street fighter 6 gameplay, FF16 gameplay, RE4 gameplay, RE VILLAGE in VR Did not excite you?

Those were way more hype as seen by people like maximilliondoode abd others being hyped as fuck with millions of subscribers.

What did Microsoft show that makes you want an Xbox?

Specifically in 2022?

Everything was 2023. And none of those are big heavy hitting games outside of starfield that can compete against Spider-Man 2. Last of us stand alone multiplayer/story game.

Sorry but 2022 is a total L for Xbox .

Sony literally showed with mlb the show, forbidden west, GT7, sifu, stray, god of war, last of us part 1 remake and Forspoken that they know how to curate a yearly slate.

Microsoft still has a lot to learn about picking quality over a quantity of games that not all hit.

What?

Street fighter? Hardly anyone cares.
FF16? Out when exactly? Late 2023 if your lucky?
Regurgitated resedent evil games?

Agreed 2022 not amazing for xbox but the show itself had lots I want in the next 360 days. I also expect very likely ms will pick up some third part stuff on gamepass that will keep me busy, plus I have a backlog, us I have switch games, plus I have ps5 stuff, I'm all good.
 

Nydius

Member
Psychonauts 2 was a much better game than Ratchet.
This isn't different tastes, you live in a completely different universe where R&C Rift Apart didn't come out if you believe this.

Psychonauts 2 was very good, but it was nowhere near the level of quality, length, and polish of Rift Apart.
Not even in the same hemisphere.

And on a technical level. nothing matches FS Flight Simulator.

Flight Sim has always been good -- the only thing new is that they were capable of running it on consoles rather than being limited to PC. A niche simulator game; If that's the best comparison you have to Sony's first party output, you only prove my point further.

Than you add The Coalition, Turn 10 and Playground, and you've got an incredible number of great studios.
"An incredible number"? You listed 3. Three is "incredible"?

You also listed The Coalition who hasn't done anything truly innovative with Gears since they took over the IP except make a half-assed open world that was completely forgettable.

and only the most zealous Sony fanboys would be dumb enough to get excited about buying a game coming out for the 3rd generation in a row.
So you're just going to pretend Xbox fanboys weren't creaming their pants over the proposition of a Gears of War compilation that included yet another remake of Gears 1 -- a three generation old game? Crawl back into your litter box.
 
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Don't think it needed more to win kojima fans over. Do you know any of these fans? They're hard core. They'll buy anything with his name attached. A bunch of series consoles were probably sold today after that announcement.
No I don’t really know of those fans that would go buy an Xbox based on Kojimas announcement today. I would think they would at least want to see a screenshot or know alittle about the game before jumping in. I must be out of touch.
 

PhaseJump

Banned
Hogwarts and MW2 are on Xbox and only the most zealous Sony fanboys would be dumb enough to get excited about buying a game coming out for the 3rd generation in a row.

Like, Persona 5?

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What?

Street fighter? Hardly anyone cares.
FF16? Out when exactly? Late 2023 if your lucky?
Regurgitated resedent evil games?

Agreed 2022 not amazing for xbox but the show itself had lots I want in the next 360 days. I also expect very likely ms will pick up some third part stuff on gamepass that will keep me busy, plus I have a backlog, us I have switch games, plus I have ps5 stuff, I'm all good.
Bro, tone it down a notch. Don't get so defensive you start making shit up. None of what youve said about upcoming.... games, people caring, obviously have a problem with a 2023 release, present company included and spare all of us the idea getting baby birded RE4 one more next gen time is preposterous. Unless you dislike RE4, then your a dirty Martian that's probing humans that have taste.
 

T-Cake

Member
I thought MS might have revealed Ubisoft Classics coming to GPU at the showcase but it maybe looks like it’s exclusive to PlayStation after all. Or at least for a certain time period.
 

THE DUCK

voted poster of the decade by bots
Bro, tone it down a notch. Don't get so defensive you start making shit up. None of what youve said about upcoming.... games, people caring, obviously have a problem with a 2023 release, present company included and spare all of us the idea getting baby birded RE4 one more next gen time is preposterous. Unless you dislike RE4, then your a dirty Martian that's probing humans that have taste.

Er, what? Nothing bad about my tone.
Re4 is a 2005 game that has already been released on multiple platforms many times and already saw one remaster. Great game but hard to get terribly excited about yet another re-release. It's also coming to both consoles, so does it even matter in a console exclusive debate?
 
Er, what? Nothing bad about my tone.
Re4 is a 2005 game that has already been released on multiple platforms many times and already saw one remaster. Great game but hard to get terribly excited about yet another re-release. It's also coming to both consoles, so does it even matter in a console exclusive debate?
First off, I didn't even say your tone was bad, I suggested a tone shift, so 🤷. Second, I love that you could only think of something of substance about RE4. The better thing about it is the lack of substance. It has been released across couple console generations, this ain't that. If you've heard of the recent REmakes Capcom has released, I'd put those closer to that except even better looking than the PS3 version. Sure, it's multiplat, but that was about the announcement.
 

DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
Dude overwatch 2 is F2P?

Scorn is meh,

Please what game in that list competes with Hogwarts, MW2, God of war, Last of us part 1 remake?

Grounded is a update?

HIGH ON LIFE is really the only big new title, Plague tale is a nice title but it pales to something like MW2, Hogwarts, God of war.

Please stop your just embarrassing yourself at this point.

Which one of those is first party? Grounded?



This was davidjaffe davidjaffe and my point on what that showcase did. There's nothing big this fall for xbox which sucks, also where the fuck was halo update? I mean if your happy gamepass subscriber there's a good amount to look forward too specifically next year. But if you dont have an xbox and have been on the fence which is still a lot of people, then this showcase did nothing to move that needle.

There was nothing Sony first party for last fall was there?

How can you mention hogwarts and mw2 when they are multi platform.

So Sony has a remake of a 2013 game that doesn't need to exist and doesn't even include the multiplayer for 70 bones and a god of war sequel that I'm nuff hyped for that was supposed to come out in 2021.

Sony has one very strong game for Xmas in god of war and that's a cross gen game. 2022 hasn't been great for big AAA no matter what anyone says.
 
There was nothing Sony first party for last fall was there?

How can you mention hogwarts and mw2 when they are multi platform.

So Sony has a remake of a 2013 game that doesn't need to exist and doesn't even include the multiplayer for 70 bones and a god of war sequel that I'm nuff hyped for that was supposed to come out in 2021.

Sony has one very strong game for Xmas in god of war and that's a cross gen game. 2022 hasn't been great for big AAA no matter what anyone says.
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Is there a definitive list anywhere of the GamePass day one games, the games that are actually exclusive etc? I’ve heard there are embargos on some Multiplat games.
 

reksveks

Member
Is there a definitive list anywhere of the GamePass day one games, the games that are actually exclusive etc? I’ve heard there are embargos on some Multiplat games.
From my research but there might be some embargo's however the starting screens usual gave it away.

Redfall* - First party
Silksong* - Multiplat but no PS
High Life* - Timed Exclusive
RIOT Games* - PC and Mobile Only
Plague Tail Requim* - Multiplat
Forza Motorza Sport* - 2023 (Series only)
MSFS + Halo* - First party
Overwatch 2 - Multiplat
ARA* (Civ like game) - First party published
TSO High Isle* - First party but multiplat
Fallout 76 The Pitt* - First party but multiplat
FH5 Hot Wheels* - First party
Ark 2* - 2023 - Timed Exclusive
Scorn* - 21st October - Timed Console Exclusive
Flintlock* - 2023 - Multiplat
Minecraft Legends* - First party but multiplat
Lightyear Frontier* - Console Exclusive possibly Timed
The Last Case of Benedict Fox* - PC Gamepass
As Dusk Fall* - First party published
Naraka Bladepoint* - Timed Console Exclusive
Pentiment* - First party
Grounded 1.0* - Sept 2022 - First party
Ereban* - 2023 - Multiplat
Diablo 4 - Multiplat
SoT season 2* - First party
Ravenlok* - 2023 - Console exclusive
Cocoon* - 2023 - Multiplat but no PS
Wo Long Fallen Dynasty* - Multiplat including previous gen
Persona 3/4G/5R* - Mulitplat but no Switch it seems
Starfield* - 2023 - First party

* is GP day one
 
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From my research but there might be some embargo's however the starting screens usual gave it away.

Redfall* - First party
Silksong* - Multiplat but no PS
High Life* - Timed Exclusive
RIOT Games* - PC and Mobile Only
Plague Tail Requim* - Multiplat
Forza Motorza Sport* - 2023 (Series only)
MSFS + Halo* - First party
Overwatch 2 - Multiplat
ARA* (Civ like game) - First party published
TSO High Isle* - First party but multiplat
Fallout 76 The Pitt* - First party but multiplat
FH5 Hot Wheels* - First party
Ark 2* - 2023 - Timed Exclusive
Scorn* - 21st October - Console Exclusive possibly Timed
Flintlock* - 2023 - Multiplat
Minecraft Legends* - First party but multiplat
Lightyear Frontier* - Console Exclusive possibly Timed
The Last Case of Benedict Fox* - PC Gamepass
As Dusk Fall* - First party published
Naraka Bladepoint* - Console Exclusive possibly Timed
Pentiment* - First party
Grounded 1.0* - Sept 2022 - First party
Ereban* - 2023 - Multiplat
Diablo 4 - Multiplat
SoT season 2* - First party
Ravenlok* - 2023 - Console exclusive
Cocoon* - 2023 - Multiplat but no PS
Wo Long Fallen Dynasty* - Multiplat including previous gen
Persona 3/4G/5R* - Not sure yet
Starfield* - 2023 - First party

* is GP day one
I see. So it was a GamePass show. That would explain the variance in quality.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
From my research but there might be some embargo's however the starting screens usual gave it away.

Redfall* - First party
Silksong* - Multiplat but no PS
High Life* - Timed Exclusive
RIOT Games* - PC and Mobile Only
Plague Tail Requim* - Multiplat
Forza Motorza Sport* - 2023 (Series only)
MSFS + Halo* - First party
Overwatch 2 - Multiplat
ARA* (Civ like game) - First party published
TSO High Isle* - First party but multiplat
Fallout 76 The Pitt* - First party but multiplat
FH5 Hot Wheels* - First party
Ark 2* - 2023 - Timed Exclusive
Scorn* - 21st October - Console Exclusive possibly Timed
Flintlock* - 2023 - Multiplat
Minecraft Legends* - First party but multiplat
Lightyear Frontier* - Console Exclusive possibly Timed
The Last Case of Benedict Fox* - PC Gamepass
As Dusk Fall* - First party published
Naraka Bladepoint* - Console Exclusive possibly Timed
Pentiment* - First party
Grounded 1.0* - Sept 2022 - First party
Ereban* - 2023 - Multiplat
Diablo 4 - Multiplat
SoT season 2* - First party
Ravenlok* - 2023 - Console exclusive
Cocoon* - 2023 - Multiplat but no PS
Wo Long Fallen Dynasty* - Multiplat including previous gen
Persona 3/4G/5R* - Not sure yet
Starfield* - 2023 - First party

* is GP day one
Scorn is confirmed timed since it had console launch exclusive and where have you seen that Ravenlock was exclusive?There hasn't been any mentions of exclusivity during the show.Naraka bladepoint has already shown ps5 gameplay...In that list possibly timed === timed, I think that because they were all called console launch exclusive.
 

Rykan

Member
Hogwarts and MW2 are on Xbox and only the most zealous Sony fanboys would be dumb enough to get excited about buying a game coming out for the 3rd generation in a row.
This is a stretch though. TloU was released on PS3 and the PS4 version was just a HD remaster/port because the system wasn't BC. This remake isn't going to be the same game.

We can have a discussion whether the game needed to be remade or whether its too soon, sure, but pretending its the same game coming out for the 3rd generation in a row is misleading.
 

reksveks

Member
Scorn is confirmed timed since it had console launch exclusive and where have you seen that Ravenlock was exclusive?There hasn't been any mentions of exclusivity during the show.Naraka bladepoint has already shown ps5 gameplay...In that list possibly timed === timed, I think that because they were all called console launch exclusive.
Re: ravenlok, https://cococucumber.co/ (weirdly even Echo Generation isn't on PS yet)

Re: naraka, going off "Play day one exclusively" but have fixed that and scorn



Yeah, i would also say that the possible timed is timed but not 100% confident.
 
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